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Rob
12:00 AM
@JourneymanGeek I've had time to lookup his notification, it was a few times in a few days; thus the emphasis is proper, and eventually confirmed as correct.
 
 
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4:29 AM
@JourneymanGeek The nerve of you, raising sensible, well-thought-out objections to my ideas :< (but actually though, thanks for the thought-provoking answer)
 
lol
@RyanM I was actually trying to work out a proposal with similar lines
but it would be unpopular
CWing feature announcements
I think people would be unhappy at not penalising staff - but it gets around people posting comments cause they are worried their answers would be DVed
(the former is a terrible reason not to of course)
 
I'd be more unhappy at the loss of rep for responding to feature announcements.
 
Yup
and that's the real focus
I want people answering, not commenting
 
I don't really care about the poster getting penalized, especially on meta sites. People should be free to raise potentially unpopular ideas.
Hence possibly just...removing the penalty altogether.
Maybe also an unpopular idea, but I think it'd go over better than taking away rep for the frenzy of responses to announcements ;-)
 
Ah, that breaks question and answer bans
 
4:50 AM
Ah I meant just the rep penalty, not the quality bans.
 
As a high rep user - I guess I worry less
but i got here by not worrying
@RyanM overall rep is a compenent, and if you only had positive rep...
 
If it is, it doesn't matter much... see, e.g., this person who gained several hundred rep after a q-ban and is still q-banned.
Also I think I'm just...less concerned about the importance of quality bans on meta. We're great (perhaps too good, sometimes...) at removing undesired content already. IIRC MSE's quality ban threshold is set more forgivingly, and MSO doesn't even have a question ban.
 
@RyanM i've seen it kick in a few times
 
Was it useful or harmful in those cases?
(I only know of one...but it was sort of moot, because the user was also suspended shortly thereafter)
 
I'd say useful
 
4:59 AM
@JourneymanGeek What do you think about the chilling effect of downvotes on questions?
 
@RyanM hmm
 
In a certain sense, it might be more important that answers aren't chilled, so that no one is afraid to respond to why a proposed idea is a problem. But then maybe we're missing out on useful would-be proposals, too.
 
Personal opinion is if you spend the time to consider the full implications and how the community will react to it, it can be managed.
 
 
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8:36 AM
@Feeds How valuable is your onebox?
 
 
3 hours later…
11:54 AM
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 got the perfect one.
 
 
2 hours later…
1:57 PM
possible spam since user has a (now deleted) spammy question on SO, linking to some shady trading platform.
@SPArcheon interesting, the creator is gender fluid, like Grace Note, as can be seen here. They refer to the creator sometimes as "he" and sometimes as "she". I have a feeling you were aware of that? ;)
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Quick, check if they are hiding some horseshoe in that hoof.
Surely can't be Grace, there is no visible thorn.
 
@Feeds onebox (not) for the rescue.
 
A patent on oneboxes?
 
lol @Mithical aren't you busy preparing for שבת? ;)
!!/coffee Mith before Saturday begins
 
2:04 PM
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 brews a cup of jQuery for @Mith
 
Mmm.
 
@SPArcheon nah, surely there are more such people, just weird coincidence.
 
@Feeds a patent? feels familiar...
 
Sep 3 at 4:50, by Meta Andrew T.
@Feeds Why yes, I do have a patent on oneboxes
Could be why they're not in use...
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 ya mean this guy?
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Do you have a screenshot of the deleted SO question?
 
2:22 PM
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 who knows. After all, someone did feel the need to add a "Shadow Pony" in the later MLP seasons.
Maybe all this SharePoint stuff is just a cover. After all, it is something that is very easy to speak poorly of.
 
@JourneymanGeek rep gain/lost isn't really why i don't answer most times
 
@KevinB Its not why I answer most of the time either
 
it's more.. i often am not interested in putting forth the effort to create an answer that lives up to my standards
 
Well - I've posted over a thousand answers on the site so....
with a few exceptions, I guess I am
 
i used to be, given my 2300 answers elsewhere
 
2:39 PM
@Ollie huh, yes. Pretty much same concept, silly question linking to this site saying how awesome it is. So, 100% spammer. /cc @Journeyman chew time! ;)
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 OK, thanks. If it comes up again I'll stick it in the watchlist.
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 his 'answer' is hilarious
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah lol
 
anyway, he's gone
 
2:42 PM
@SPArcheon :D
 
starts asking on WordPress Development and Drupal Answers on how to build a Q&A site
 
@JourneymanGeek We <3 ♦ + 🐕!
 
@Ollie You fart diamonds? That's a good source of income!
Farting dogs seems a bit painful though.
 
Oh for god's sake
@Tinkeringbell Diamond plus canine = effective!
 
@Ollie Heh, don't worry. God hates me already :P
 
2:46 PM
 
🚽
 
@Ollie like this ? :P
 
@Tinkeringbell well, ya know.
@Tinkeringbell no, no, no. The diamond has to be somewhere you can see it.
 
@SPArcheon That's not God, I hope :P
 
Frunt und CENTAH.
@Tinkeringbell Metagod.
 
2:48 PM
@Ollie You're going to need braces if your canines are front and center XD
 
@Tinkeringbell doesn't have to be on your teeth.
A diamond nose bolt, perhaps.
With MSE logos.
 
XD that sounds... like it belongs on the catwalk of a 'high couture' show :P
 
'Scuse, gotta go poke something with a sharp stick.
 
Have fun!
 
Rob
3:05 PM
Looking for diamonds elsewhere.
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 youtube.com/watch?v=3RYnrPeyX1c
 
it needs to be easier to "show posts" from ignored users in mobile chat
 
3:24 PM
Lol
 
3:42 PM
i don't think you even can, other than by going to full site
 
29 messages moved to Chimney
 
show the hidden post, see it is another pony, be sad you wasted time trying to view it.
 
that wasn't targeted at recent chat, just a random thought i had due to trying to use mobile chat last night
i'd like the ignore feature to function more like discords
where the messages effectively appear as collapsed oneboxes that you can expand 1 by 1 if you wish, or leave collapsed
 
Well this is fun I can't remove tags from a question title
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Q: Code not executing after scanf's [beginner C]

user3402545 #include <stdio.h> #include <math.h> main() { int hour; int min; printf("How long has it been since the power failure?"); printf("\nEnter the number of hours: "); scanf("%d", hour); printf("Enter the number of minutes: "); scanf("%d", min); double t = hour + (m...

it blocks it with a completely useless error message
 
though... i do have 25 people ignored here
"Title cannot contain "Code not executing after scanf"." that error message?
likely the "code" regexp
i'm not sure it's worth even editing that question
 
4:50 PM
@KevinB That's a nice round number.
 
Anyone here with some SEDE skills wanna help me out?
 
Depends on how much you need. I can refer you to some posts on MSE and read a tiny bit of SQL, but you'll probably want someone like @rene if he isn't having dinner now ;)
 
Stroopwafels and blur.
 
There's also this room you can try.
 
Trying to gather some stats for RPG, we're hashing out the unpinning accepted answers thing.
 
4:58 PM
@Tinkeringbell hmm, yeah dinner would be nice. :/
 
@rene hello friend :)
 
It's almost seven and you haven't had any yet? :|
 
Tough server
 
Maybe it wants food too
 
I might throw some beer at it
 
4:59 PM
Good luck ;) Now, I guess you should talk with Thomas, not me or the server :P
 
@rene Sorry bother you, have you a moment for some assistance?
 
5:17 PM
@ThomasMarkov sorry, not at the moment. Feel free to move to chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/1223/data-explorer-sede and drop your issue there. I'll circle back to that once I had dinner and this server I'm working on is up again.
 
24, forgot to remove the one person who earned being removed recently ca
 
@PM2Ring Not quite what Im looking for:
in Data Explorer (SEDE), 23 mins ago, by Thomas Markov
Need some quick help. This query lists the questions where the accepted answer is not the highest scoring answer, can we add a column counting the number of answers that outscore the accepted answer?
 
Ah, ok. That sounds reasonable.
 
6:05 PM
There's a current question about link shortening services on Physics meta. I posted a couple of relevant links from MSE: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/64450/… & meta.stackexchange.com/q/99136/334566 but they're both pretty old, and I couldn't find a more recent post on the policy, and on which services are blocked across the network. Also,
My impression was that some shorteners were already banned. (I ran into this problem because the MM.SE uploader used to produce goo.gl links.) But I just tried to post one of those old links and the system let it through, so I don't know what the current status is. — Emilio Pisanty 3 hours ago
So if someone can point me towards the current official info, I'll be grateful. :)
 
i mean... why shorten links?
it's not like we're typing them in
at best it allows a comment to contain more characters, but maybe it shouldn't have been a comment,
 
I hate shortened links. But I understand people using them, especially if they're the norm on some other site they frequent. They're really only useful here in comments (& maybe chat).
 
 
1 hour later…
7:17 PM
upload a qr code to i.stack and link to it, url shortener
 
 
2 hours later…
9:25 PM
hi @bad_coder sorry I don't understand revision #4 -- what's wrong with the user's ID in the shared link?
 
Rob
Why didn't you roll it ...
 
9:45 PM
@ymb1 ok. Main use of userID in links is for the announcer/booster/publicist set of badges. Thing is, having someone click an URL with you ID doesn't count when the referrer is internal to the SE network, it's only useful when the visit originate from outside SE.
@ymb1 bottom-line, I edit hundreds of post. If everyone were to include their userID in internal links it would clutter the edition of posts, besides making the question/answer ID itself harder to read. After you've seen the source behind enough thousands of posts you'll notice the consenus is not to include the user ID. For the reasons I just tried to explain.
(I guess there's a canonical somewhere about this if I dig deep enough in my bookmarks.)
 
10:02 PM
@ymb1 There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
@bad_coder that's outdated, since 2017 meta.stackexchange.com/a/188733/369802
So don't remove those IDs, you're just taking away people's chances of getting a badge which really is not nice
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Personally I strip the IDs out of links I add when I'm editing new links into other people's posts because I feel weird about it, but I use them in my own posts.
I dunno if there's any consensus about that, though.
 
@RyanM That's you're choice. I strip them when I'm sending mod messages, if I remember :P but there's no reason to claim they're not counting towards a badge.... And then edit out someone else's user id
 
@Tinkeringbell Oh, yeah, totally with you there.
I've also learned to strip them when sending mod flags, since plagiarism flags on SO often result in the link from the flag ending up in a comment on the post... :D
 
As for the clutter... Ffs, this is a link at the bottom of a post, it's not even inlined. If you can't stand that... You're better off staying away from the edit button in its entirety.
 
That reminds me, the new editor doesn't do non-inlined links and it's painful...
 
10:11 PM
@RyanM oh wow...i actually never considered that but then again I don't often copy links from flags... I hope :P
 
Probably less plagiarism on MSE ^^; less sure about IPS
 
@RyanM same here exactly
 
@RyanM Haven't seen much on either site, that's true. Plenty of 'duplicate answers' ( people writing a cheap rip-off of existing answers, often on HNQ s) on IPS, but no outright plagiarism.
 
@Tinkeringbell is the question considered or not? essentially I'm requesting if the community agrees, that SE designs alternatives, but the tag was removed by someone now
 
@ymb1 I've added the link back in, lemme know if anyone tries to mess with you like that again. A mod flag will do, I'll make sure to share this in the mod room so the other mods will know as well
 
10:18 PM
@Tinkeringbell I saw, thanks :))
 
@bad_coder That's incorrect. As a result of the HTTPS changeover, the system can no longer distinguish between internal and external links, so the badge criteria were redefined to include internal links (and badges were retroactively awarded).
 
@ymb1 I'd stick with 'discussion' for now: whether it needs updating and to what looks like more of a discussion than a feature request to me.
 
@bad_coder If you're concerned about clutter, might I suggest changing internal links to relative URLs instead? That'll reduce a lot more clutter than removing user IDs. (But be sure to pair it with a substantive edit.)
 
You can 'discuss' updating first, then 'request' a specific change. It seems you're post is more of the first kind
 
@Tinkeringbell copy that; tough crowd so far so I doubt it'll go any further :D
 
10:21 PM
A good format: just post your problem as a discussion question, then post your solution to the problem as an answer
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I do that on local metas, thought it bad netiquette here because points, but will do in the future thanks
I'd rather see the comments that disagree posted as answers though, too much noise
 
@ymb1 It's actually insurance for your reputation. If people agree that what you're saying is a problem but disagree with your solution, they'll upvote the question and downvote the answer, making a net gain, whereas if you post both in the question, they'll downvote that resulting in a net loss.
Then you can delete the answer and get your rep back, while you can't delete your question if it's been answered
 
I don't understand however downvoting discussion questions, if it's a bad idea, and there's something worth saying, then that's a good discussion, i dunno
 
Or they won't downvote the answer because glances at my most recent feature-request
 
@RyanM To be quite frank: while I do have quite a huge loss aversion instinct, an occasional loss of just one point is enough to bypass it
 
10:26 PM
@RyanM Meh :P if people can vote for another answer/question with counterarguments, they wouldn't have to rely on down votes as much
Stupid phone....
 
@Tinkeringbell Are mods immune to the chat rate limit?
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog You also have quite a lot of rep here already :-) I, too, would be more likely to downvote answers if I had over 70k.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Nope
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Nope.
 
@Tinkeringbell That assumes someone's written one already, and there can be a first-mover advantage...but you're not wrong, generally.
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I've considered it but I think the full URL in the toolptip is a plus for less experienced readers (meaning the vast majority of non logged-in folks.)
 
10:28 PM
@RyanM I also freely downvote answers on sites where I have three-digit rep counts
@bad_coder The system automatically adds that in on relative URLs
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog only once you click it
 
@RyanM I mean.. a lot of people talk about the FGITW here... And I often don't recognize it: I've written plenty of answers that were submitted after others that ended up top-scoring, or at least in a top three
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I could say with all certainty I tried it on Firefox and didn't work for me.
 
@bad_coder it is possible, IIRC, to create a link with both the full URL in the link and the user ID, but you have to do it manually.
 
Unable to reproduce - in the status bar on Edge, relative URL links show as absolute URLs there.
@RyanM No, full-form links can't have user IDs in them.
 
10:30 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog oh, I thought you meant the full URL with the question title slug. Yeah relative vs. absolute should show as absolute in the status bar, I've never seen a modern browser not do that.
 
@RyanM I've also considered that but unless you're dealing with a huge screenshot that should be reduced in size using a clickable link with mobile rendering inline I still consider it adds more clutter than benefit. (I'd be interested in seeing an example ReCommonMark though, otherwise I'd have to figure it out myself.)
 
The only drawback is that if the post gets migrated, relative links will become relative to the destination site, breaking them
 
@Tinkeringbell thanks for the heads-up. The canonical I initially read on MSO must have been outdated in that regard.
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Oh, you're right. I was confusing the fact that it doesn't break, because that's actually the format for answers within the page. @bad_coder disregard that, I was wrong.
 
@bad_coder Yeah, you might want to consider reading the links you send others... You literally linked to the post stating it was outdated since 2017.
I really shouldn't have had to give you a heads up.
 
10:35 PM
@Tinkeringbell don't be like that, you enjoying being right :)
 
@bad_coder What MSO post?
If it's community wiki I'll correct it.
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog uuhhhh, somewhere.... (Please don't ask me to find things on MSO on a Friday night.)
 
@bad_coder there's a difference between the enjoyment of a good argument and being right, and having to clean up preventable messes. The latter had nothing to do with being right.
 
@Tinkeringbell but I very much appreciate the fraternal heads-up, don't scold me over what turned into the motive of a positive interaction. I am sorry if I caused you any inconvenience, and of course I try to minimize the later instances.
So, thank you Tink.
 
You're not welcome
 
10:39 PM
I'm not :| ?
@Tinkeringbell Well that's not welcoming.
 
10:52 PM
@bad_coder While we're on the subject of unhelpful edits, replacing one grammatical error with another, e.g., "so I can some valuable rep points" -> "so to get some valuable rep points" is also unhelpful. As is removing the non-breaking space from the already-correct Stack&nbsp;Overflow (it prevents the brand name from being split across lines).
 
@RyanM yeah, you know that neurological phenomenon that sometimes the brain will ignore 2 letter words? That was one such case, I also wasn't wearing my reading glasses. So my bad there. As for the &nbsp I understand what it does, but what percentage of posts uses it? It clutters the post - although that's debatable.
 
Fair on the former, though I personally favor less readable Markdown that results in a more readable post for the latter. I use a lot of &mdash;, for instance.
In part because I'm too lazy to look up the keycode or go copy-paste it.
My coworkers were amused when I wrote Markdown like that into a Google Doc table that was run through a script to file bugs into our Markdown-supporting bug tracker. :-)
 
@RyanM but your phrasing (as per editors choice) made the post more tedious and repetitive to read (I tried to avoid that). "answer so to get" avoided the repetition of "can" twice.
 
@bad_coder I uuuusually try to stick as close to the OP's wording as I can, but that's a preference, not a requirement. In this case, the repetitive nature of the sentence could have been intentional as a literary device to make a point that it is a tedious game... but maybe it was just repetitive writing :-)
In this case, they'd clearly meant to put the word "get" in, so I added it for them. But rephrasing it to "to get some" (minus the "so") would have been fine, too, in my book.
The desire to stick closely to the OP's wording is also laziness: it means I have to do less editing when cleaning things up :-)
 
@RyanM also true, I considered it. Perhaps I'm just fed up with meta posts and the literary device succeeded.
 
11:05 PM
There is a particular user on one site who's probably responsible for an outsized number of my edits...they're a great contributor, but an atrocious proofreader.
So they often end up with an upvote and an edit from me.
 
@RyanM o/ I have to be of. Scotch would be good choice tonight.
 
Waiting patiently for the irony of you accepted too soon! ><
 
@bad_coder Cheers o/
 

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