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8:19 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog nope, as of 10 days ago.
niyazahamed, Bangalore, Karnataka, India
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Wonder if he gets some special prize for being the user with id 1000000? @Catija ;)
@MetaAndrewT. only two hands?
 
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Probably the special 'have your account destroyed for spamming' award ;)
 
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard "SEO Training in Bangalore" yup that sounds like a nuke to me
 
@Luuklag meh, don't think we should nuke profiles before they post anything. Might still post something useful.
And users do have the right to self promote in their profile. :)
 
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard How to get SO at the top of Google search?
 
8:31 AM
@rene are user profiles indexed on their own? Thought that only when the user has posts, i.e. the links to the profile in the posts are indexed.
 
It's possible they're not a spammer, and that they just happened to mention "SEO training" in one part of their profile (and "SEO course" on SO) and link to AngularJS training in another part, and also that the site that they're linking to just happens to be spammed on other sites across the internet, and that they just happen to have also created their Twitter profile that also has no posts in the same month...
 
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard No, they are going to tell Nick Craver how to get that pathetic Stack Overflow site in the top ranks on Google ...
 
Anyway I split the difference and watched the link in SD. If they're not a spammer, they get to keep their shiny user ID, and if they are, we'll catch them quickly :-)
 
\o/
I got in the last thing I needed to fix my 'spare' keyboard and it now works properly :D
replaced 2 faulty key switches
 
8:51 AM
Last thing needed being the soldering iron? :P
 
Wierdly the opposite
I needed a solder sucker
Or solder braid
If your removing solder you either use a small vacuum suction device or a braided copper material that soaks it up like a sponge
I got the suction device first
 
@JourneymanGeek can't you just use any plain syringe without a needle?
 
Of course you ordered both :P
 
@Luuklag it would melt
and you need the suction all at once
adafruit.com/product/148 something like this
@Tinkeringbell well - yes
I basically have a fairly complete set of things that I'd need to solder
 
9:07 AM
;) I have the same, but for crocheting :P
 
@Tinkeringbell thats called a bunch of sticks right ;)
 
@Luuklag hooks, needles, stitch markers, yarn cutters, hook gauge, needle threaders, yarn winder, fabric scissors, stuffing needle, pins... :P
Oh! A special wooden square for blocking (I also have a standard rubber kid play mat, but the special square works better), and a tiny iron :D
I think that's about everything, but there's probably more somewhere ;)
 
lol
I kinda want a 'nicer' third hand
but its too expensive for 'occational' soldering
 
9:32 AM
@Feeds Blocking the onebox as a service
 
9:49 AM
@JourneymanGeek Ah yeah. I know the feeling.
 
 
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12:32 PM
If somebody asks a really bad question, but it then gets edited into a good question should it be upvoted or downvoted?
 
If it is good now, it should be upvoted
perhaps it should have been deleted before, but we only judge posts as they are
 
@EkadhSingh Downvoted before editing, upvoted afters :D
and you can switch your vote after an edit
 
@EkadhSingh adding to the others, if someone do this on purpose (aka a troll) then by all means, any new question from such a person should be deleted, even if edited into shape. That was a good post about it today on MSE.
That's an edge case where "voting by content" isn't correct.
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Q: Does the SE network have an effective process in place to deal with aggressively toxic users?

Peter DunihoI welcome any details that can be shared, but I understand if there are specifics that cannot be. I am primarily interested in whether the process exists, rather than what that process is. What's been happening: In the last few months, and especially the last week or so it seems, there is a parti...

 
1:09 PM
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Usually, I would argue to just flag the post over voting:
 
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard It feels like the user in case is a bit of... a low grade troll
 
- You will need a moderator to check first if this really is the troll.
 
So no need to edit, only flag
 
> When the community got wise to that tactic, they got abusive. They posted abusive comments, and even edited the questions themselves to include abusive language, including death threats.
 
1:10 PM
Yeah, flag :D
Red-flag ;)
 
yeah, that kinda is a giveaway that we need a bit more serious interventions
 
Don't feed the troll though. For all we know they're watching this and enjoying the attention ;)
How was everyone's weekend?
Anyone watch the Eurovision song contest?
 
._.
The only mention I saw of it this year was that the UK had a bit of a hard brexit in it...
 
@JourneymanGeek I saw some people blame it on brexit, but... the singer wasn't singing that well from what I could hear either. I think all countries that received zero points from the public deserved it, I even think the 11 points The Netherlands got from the jury were overrated.
 
Is there a FAQ regarding the use of non-English in chatrooms attached to English language sites? (I'm asking on behalf of someone from Math.SE). I found this from 2012: meta.stackexchange.com/q/136259/334566 This is more recent: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/263092/… but it's on MSO rather than MSE. Those are both good enough, I guess, if nothing more definitive / more recent exists.
 
1:18 PM
@PM2Ring I think both of them mostly say the same thing
If there's no trouble, we're good
 
@PM2Ring The 2012 still holds I think. I remember using it to say 'hey, if you're going to have your room here (on chat.meta) you need to speak English, because otherwise we can't moderate it.'
 
but if stuff gets flagged, moderating non english content is challenging
 
It's a bit different on chat.se, because there's more moderators there, including those who speak other languages well.
 
Even for 'official' non english sites, if we have chat flags, its a pain
 
But like Geek is saying, moderating those chats is still a pain, because I could translate something Spanish and it would be really offensive, only to be told by a Spanish speaking mod it's the equivalent of Australia's 'cunt' (in other words, not so offensive at all)
 
1:21 PM
@JourneymanGeek Yep. A few years back, there was a SO chatroom where Gujarati was used a lot, which generated a lot of chat flags. It was very annoying to all of the 10kers on that chat network.
@Tinkeringbell Yeah, for some Aussies, "cunt" is virtually a synonym for "bloke". Still, you wouldn't say it in front of your new girlfriend's Mum. :)
 
@Tinkeringbell for extra fun, dialects
@PM2Ring If it were up to me - I'd want someone to be the 'responsible adult'/designated point of contact in those situations
 
I guess my issue is that it's a bit ambiguous. And the 2012 one is saying "avoid non-English because we can't moderate it properly", but it seems that the policy is more like: "use what language you're comfortable with, but if things go off the rails, we'll come down hard".
 
If question 1 was posted on politics then migrated to history, and question 2 (posted on polotics) is a duplicate of question one is there any way to close question two as a duplicate?
 
@PM2Ring more or less, we're not going to walk into a chatroom and demand you speak english but...
almost any flag in non english languages could be validated.
 
1:37 PM
@EkadhSingh Cross-site duplicates aren't a thing. Fortunately. :) Otherwise, a lot of Astronomy questions would get dupe-hammered to Physics ones.
 
@PM2Ring So the correct recourse would be to just migrate it again and let history close it as a duplicate? Or should I do something else?
 
Or just leave it alone and let things take their course
 
1:57 PM
@JourneymanGeek what course would that be?
What’s the correct outcome for something like this happening?
 
@EkadhSingh See - the problem is you're asking for absolutes, in a vague question
The correct outcome is the community takes a look, and decides what to do.
So if got migrated .... do nothing.
and you have questions on two sites that may have different perspectives
If it gets rejected, eh
Question might be why question 2 isn't migrated
 
Question 2 isn’t migrated because it just got posted
 
hm. flagging it for attention might be an option
or adding a comment pointing the other question out
 
I added a comment and brought it up in Agora, so hopefully that’s enough
 
 
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3:09 PM
Ryan Donovan on May 25, 2021
The 2021 Developer Survey is ready for your input.
 
🚽
found this years survey to be... lacking
 
3:22 PM
I'm down to 1 thing in my to do pile \o/
 
3:58 PM
@JourneymanGeek The suspense is killing me. What is the last thing on the pile?!
"Do the second pile now"?
 
@Tinkeringbell fixing up and moving my old PC to my room
It dosen't have any particular use at the moment tho
The second pile is stuff that's waiting on other things to happen :D
 
So, this one item will remain on the pile for 6-8 :)
 
Or I might get it done tommorrow
 
1 thing in my pile: process my pile.
 
My current pile is at least 4 crochet projects, an exam to study for, and arranging all the crap that comes with buying an apartment. Preferably in that order, though I probably should switch the exam and crochet around XD
 
 
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6:33 PM
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6:54 PM
or @DavidPostill
 
@Luuklag Sorted
 
thanks :)
Ah sorry, didn't see that it was an unregistered user, then nuking the user is pretty pointless and it wouldn't have taken long for another R/A flag to nuke it by itself.
Sorry for the useless ping
 
 
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8:52 PM
Getting "Service is currently available" intermittently ...
Looks like it's only me then D:
 
@MetaAndrewT. in your siteanalytics on sites you moderate under traffic sources do you have a domain named like proxyauth-[....].com.au with significant traffic?
@MetaAndrewT. only once.
 
9:12 PM
@rene not seeing this entry at all
mostly DDG and Reddit's AMP
 
hmm. okay. There is one on SO with close to 200k, top 10. Maybe some hack to get access without revealing the originating IP.
 
There is this one though: 192.168.1.10 (????)
 
That is an internal IP. Strange. Who could possible visit an SE site from within the SE network ;)
 
🤔
that one hacker
 
I'm curious what Android issue that one hacker had. But then, it's Android after all...
 
9:30 PM
@rene them aussies can't be up to no good
 
You don't have permission to access "http://stackoverflow.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_7arimtzVFf8ipfM?" on this server.

Reference #18.c37a7b5c.1621978773.38eb4b75
So I'm getting a link to a survey that I'm not able to take. Ok.
 
lol
 
@forestdistrustsStackExchange I think this was an issue last year or the year before as well
depends on your location I believe
Your URL works fine for me though
 
Well, probably also the fact that I'm using Tor. But other surveys have worked for me.
 
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A: Take the 2019 Developer Survey

polfosol à° _à° I have completed the developer survey three times in the past years. To my surprise, I was just about to visit the survey page and faced this message: Access Denied You don't have permission to access "http://stackoverflow.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_1RGiufc1FCJcL6B?" on this server. ...

sounds like exactly what you experience
 
time for a vpn
 
also
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Q: Why can't I open the 2019 Developer Survey link?

Ali AliWhen I click on the 2019 Developer Survey link: I get this error:

 
I was able to complete the survey with the link sent to me ...
 
i was as well, but no badge
take it again later or somethin
 
It'd be amusing if those survey links were for me specifically and now they think I took the survey twice. :D
 
9:50 PM
yeah that would be something
 
On an unrelated note, chat seems to have a limit on the number of characters you can post, but when I use newlines, the limit appears to be virtually non-existent. I was able to upload like a dozen kilobytes to a single chat message.
 
well I'm off, its about midnight, and just finished my proposal
 
@forestdistrustsStackExchange the survey link on the announcement post is rather similar
 
@forestdistrustsStackExchange like that's the only bug in chat ;)
 
9:52 PM
https://stackoverflow.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_7arimtzVFf8ipfM
 
I wonder how many kilobytes I can actually upload before it stops me.
inb4 I'll be able to upload a gigabyte.
 

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