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12:56 AM

@AlwaysConfused Doesn't this help?:

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Q: What is the precise definition of Ramachandran angles?

The Wikipedia article Ramachandran plot is very schematic and doesn't even say when these angles are considered to be zero. It seems to assume that the peptide chain has no end, and always shows the next carbon atom. What happens when the amino acid is in the terminal position? It also asserts th...

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Journeyman Geek

1:24 AM

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forest distrusts StackExchange

(reading scroll log) You know, I see a lot more people in this particular chat get kicked out than elsewhere. I wonder if this place just attracts more drama, or if the mods are more predisposed to drama. Every other time I come in here, someone is arguing with mods lol

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange because people sometimes have trouble with understanding polite requests....

forest distrusts StackExchange

1:40 AM

From only two mods in one specific room?

Why this room and never any others? The only thing that differs is moderation style, not users.

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange we have a total of 3 mods

forest distrusts StackExchange

I only ever see people fight with 2 of them.

Journeyman Geek

So, how many mods do you want to remind them?

forest distrusts StackExchange

What I was getting at is that it seems like the issue is in communication from moderators, not the other way around. I.e. an issue with the wording you use, or something of the sort.

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange and what might you mean by that?

@forestdistrustsStackExchange clearly you should take this to meta, or complain to the community team.

forest distrusts StackExchange

1:42 AM

@JourneymanGeek Eh, it's just the chat. Not a big enough deal to put on MSE.

I find that meta mods as a whole tend not to get into fights with users a lot.

Journeyman Geek

@forestdistrustsStackExchange We mostly hang out here so if we're somewhere else, there's something that triggered it. I'm going to drop it there, and we'll communicate directly with the users involved

forest distrusts StackExchange

OK. I wasn't talking about any particular incident.

Just in general. :p

forest distrusts StackExchange

2:19 AM

Why is wearing a mask a status symbol nowadays? I really don't get that.

Like, is it just virtue signalling?

Or a statement? I mean when it's done in situations where it's unnecessary.

Not in stores and confined spaces where it's smart to wear one.

(Thought came to my mind seeing @MetaAndrewT.'s profile picture)

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Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

3:56 AM

Am I fast if I'm the first one to show up, even though I'm late?

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Baked a cheesecake for my birthday. Every food item in the above image was made by me from scratch. (The writing isn't mine.)

4:11 AM

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog looks nice and delicious! Happy (belated) birthday!

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5:37 AM

for when the years ketchup on you?

6:08 AM

oh, punny...

:D

Journeyman Geek

@JohnDvorak OUT SIR. AND TAKE YOUR COAT. AND YOUR HAT. AND DEFINATELY YOUR PANTS SIR, DEFINATELY YOUR PANTS.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog that's very nice, but also sad in a way that you had to make it yourself... does it mean you don't celebrate with family/friends today? Anyway, happy birthday!

@JourneymanGeek if he sat on the cake pants need washing first.

@MetaAndrewT. pony

(Not Tony though)

6:46 AM

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard cake pants

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob no, the other way around. Like this, just with cake instead of mud. (Or in addition to? They don't conflict.)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard No, I did. Everyone thoroughly enjoyed the cake.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tink when you have some time please hit me up on a private chat, need to talk about something. Thanks.

Yes, just thought that was funny. There's also a video where it's the other way around from what you mean, where cake is purchased and then dropped down pants.

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Reminds me of this

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

6:53 AM

@Tink I don't have access

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Yeah, I need more than 2 seconds to set something like this up :P

You should be good now?

Journeyman Geek

lol

Refresh the page or something XD

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard It's to prevent you from doing that.

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6:57 AM

You can do that with some cellphones, that have a built-in IR remote.

@Rob well, well, lets get to work then:xD

You can go to TV store after hours and put on specific' pay per view channel.

Journeyman Geek

I don't think IR remotes have that kinda range

though in theory you could get a universal/semi universal remote

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell two whole seconds?! :D

@BabaYaga ROFL

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I know, you don't have that kind of patience :P I should've waited a day before even making a room :P

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

7:03 AM

@Rob surely they block it? lol

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard the ping sound scared me

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell cries

:D

@BabaYaga pong!

You're not alone though

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard me an intellectual: MUTE lmao

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard can't be changed?

Journeyman Geek

@BabaYaga here its more of a warble

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@BabaYaga only muted, not changed

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Q: Let us pick the sound of chat ping

Getting ping'd in some chatrooms (servers?) makes a nice little ding!, in some others you get a loud bonk! Inconsistency is evil, this needs to be fixed. Or rather, instead of forcing a uniform bink! on all chat users across the network, how about making the ping notification sound a configurabl...

feature-request chat notifications audio

7:07 AM

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard yeah, realised that

@JourneymanGeek There are hacks to increase the range, apparently 15m is possible: youtu.be/vD272_WdOeI economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/hardware/…

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob that's neat, opens up whole world of trolling possibilities. :D

Digging came up with 7 years old same concern about sound:

Apr 22 '14 at 15:36, by Second Rikudo

Wow, weird ping sound here

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I can simply choose channel 1, then order anything - stuff I couldn't tell you the title, and costs a fortune - and I presume it comes on and I get a bill at the end of the month.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

What happened to First Rikudo? Anyone remembers?

First, and last.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

7:16 AM

@Rob well the TV bundle I have at home is connected to personal account, to order adult stuff I'll have to contact support and ask to remove the block, one can't just pay on my behalf. So assume shops also block such stuff. :)

@Rob lol

Huh, nice title mask feature.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard username is offensive too

user912062

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard SmokeDetector’s post would be flagged as spam if it posted the title here

Journeyman Geek

@RocketNikita I think folks would be quite annoyed if frivlous flags happened

+ rivalry aside - team smokey is very responsive about fixing things

user912062

@JourneymanGeek yeah

Journeyman Geek

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Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

7:22 AM

@JourneymanGeek I missed it! lol

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard wierdly the body of it was in something that looked like gaelic

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek surely just copy and paste of something.

Journeyman Geek

I can't see it anymore either :D

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Here the remotes have a huge button which is all too easily pressed, then there's a lengthy loading process, next you have to figure out how to exit the menu; all the while ADs are flashing all the most popular movies. --- Since you have children you'd definitely want to lock out unrestricted TV usage. --- Is your phone locked, or can they call 900- numbers, for $50/minute.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek translated it just for fun, and oddly enough it's just a funny story, not offensive at all. So weird.

> I'm not going to fart on the third floor

lol

@Rob sure, it's locked for long years. Ordinary NSFC channels need password (those that don't require extra pay) and the VOD library just have it blocked.

@RocketNikita no, it used to be posted "raw" for many years, never flagged. It's moved to the Chimney at some point, so the bad stuff don't stick around anyway.

7:33 AM

Here we have several hundred channels, between channel 300-400 the names of the show are not anything I could repeat here; but the titles seem self explanatory. --- Even if I don't have them activated I can see in the TV Guide what the show is called, and know what they are doing.

user912062

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard ohk

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob ohhh.... you meant switching to those channels just to show the titles, not watch the actual content. Well yes, that would probably "work" and make the troll happy. lol

Wonder what police can charge such people with?

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Breaking in, stealing.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell no and nope, we talk about people changing channels of TV inside a shop with remote they install on their phone.

Oh I missed that context switch XD

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

7:38 AM

:D

Disturbance of peace, perhaps then :P

Well, there's channel 1 where you order PPV, and they tell you which channel to change to and see it start in a minute or two. Then there's the subscription channels (300-400) where you must order them and have them turned on, then you can switch to them as a regular channel. --- On or Off, you can still read the title and a short description of the contents; which probably describes the show in it's entirety.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell making kids ask their parents weird questions?

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Indecent exposure? :P

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob yes, we have something like this here as well.

@Tinkeringbell third party though, is it offense? ;)

7:40 AM

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I'm not a lawyer.... I'm sure they'll be able to get you on something though :P

Journeyman Geek

Malicious Lingering!

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell I'll put my best "innocent face" and get away with it. :D

@JourneymanGeek huh! Sounds like nasty offense. ;)

I did try to use remote TV app on my phone once when the actual remote of the TV at home broke, sadly it didn't work. :/

Coworker brought a cake again, going to make coffee so I'll have excuse to eat it. :D

user912062

@Sha you gave me an idea. I recently made a banana keyboard, and now I’ll make banana TV remote

user912062

Have to change bananas before they rot

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

8:03 AM

Cake is long gone, but I did take a picture when it was still alive and tempting.

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Journeyman Geek

The cake is a lie?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@M.A.R. you still hungry?

Jul 16 '20 at 14:29, by M.A.R.

Underwhelmed and hungry now.

@JourneymanGeek now it's just a faded memory.

Taste still in mouth though. :P

Journeyman Geek

"Like tears in the rain... time to pie...."

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek ♫

@Ayo hello! You're just in time for the cake. ;)

Sorry for the weird shape, but it doesn't affect the taste.

The "single quotation mark" cake.

Journeyman Geek

8:11 AM

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard lol

Movie quote not song :D

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek song-ish enough for me. ;)

@MadScientist good point you raised there, reopened. Though I'm afraid it's not going to happen, but worth trying.

@Rob looks more like a chair to me, picture is rotated for some reason. Here.

An UZI pistol grip, with 40 clip.

Journeyman Geek

dosen't sound tasty

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Haha, let's have it, I love cakes!!

Journeyman Geek

sounds like a recipie for lead poisoning

8:24 AM

Hahaha

Now that I think about it, I think I will side with @JourneymanGeek on this one, hehehe

Journeyman Geek

@Ayo the actual cake was probably tasty, though might not be when it reaches you from where @ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard is :D

(though, what kinda monster cuts cake like that? My mom would disapprove :D )

Then, it is time for us to test out this portable refrigerator, haha: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/…

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob very creative!

Journeyman Geek

ooh

@Ayo does it come with the contents and does it refill itself?

Journeyman Geek

8:30 AM

My new NUC finally shipped :D

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Ayo good! Still half cake to go, waiting for me. :)

@JourneymanGeek I took half slice yesterday, that's the weird shape source. ;)

@rene If you don't mind me asking (research purposes)... how old are you?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell he's 16, sweet little flower. :D

Or was it 61?

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Then I'd have to revisit a hypothesis XD

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Maybe I was looking upside down when he hanged me. :P

Journeyman Geek

8:32 AM

OVER 9000

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

lol

@rene Yes it does, if you can imagine it, it can appear, if you imagine it right now, it can appear in your house :P

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard now I am wonder if laser guided cake knives are a thing

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Refridgator arriving soon...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Ayo there's an eye in there. ;)

@JourneymanGeek probably there is, but too boring to use. :D

Journeyman Geek

8:34 AM

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard lasers make everything better.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Ayo good, so we found where to store it while it's being shipped, regarding @Journeyman's concern. :D

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I've suddenly lost my appetite 😅

Journeyman Geek

Mouldy cake is probably worse than lie cake. Probably tastes of mould and disappointment

user912062

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard 91

Journeyman Geek

@Ayo also whoever put the stuff in the fridge... fish and veggies together? and its filled so you can't close it....

♫ Saaaaaaallllmoneeeelllaaaa salmonela salmon-el-aaaaaaaa♫

user912062

8:38 AM

haha

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

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@Ayo ^

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard the fish and prawns also have eyes, but I think you mean the ._. face? :D

@JourneymanGeek Let's do it!!!

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Ayo I mean, Its a death trap :D

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek moldy is the new tasty! :P

Journeyman Geek

8:40 AM

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard ._.

@JourneymanGeek If you fry everything thorougly, should be fine.

@JourneymanGeek I'm immune

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell sounds scottish

@Ayo famous last words :D

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Thanks, I'll have the 🍾

@JourneymanGeek Eh, I thought deep-frying everything was American?

8:41 AM

@Tinkeringbell I'm way beyond my expiration date ...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

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Done.

@rene You're not helping! I have important questions to answer, you know :P

in The Awkward Silence on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 22 hours ago, by Tinkeringbell

Sooo... at what age do males generally learn that toilet paper rolls don't just respawn?

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@BabaYaga hey, it's for Ayo!

At least your remark showed a minimal awareness of things not just respawning all the time XD

LOL

Journeyman Geek

8:42 AM

@Tinkeringbell when you're the one buying it

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard communism intensifies 😂

@JourneymanGeek Did I mention that time when I slept over at a co-workers place, and there wasn't any toilet paper? He was definitely the one that should've been buying it.

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell (Don't ask me, I'm indian... :D )

@Tinkeringbell that is your fault. Males need to be properly respawn trained. Not easy. Needs lots of patience. You may never succeed.

@JourneymanGeek :(

8:43 AM

@JourneymanGeek dayum boi

@rene It's not my male though... then the fault is my mom's.

Journeyman Geek

@BabaYaga YOU KNOW WHY

@JourneymanGeek I'm Indian too

user912062

*=*

Journeyman Geek

That's why you would know

unless its a southern thing

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

8:44 AM

@JourneymanGeek I find it awesome, if only tradition didn't cause me to be used to toilet paper, would happily switch method as well. :D

Nah bruh, all over the same

@RocketNikita sup

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Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Glorfindel Regarding your bug report: can you help me reproduce it as well, by performing a substantive edit to this sandbox answer of mine?

Cupcakes too!

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Rob lol

8:45 AM

@Tinkeringbell it is best made a community effort ...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell surely he had some stashed away? lol

@rene Well, I did my part... chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/57766959#57766959

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@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I highly doubt it, or he wouldn't have been yelling at me XD

user912062

@BabaYaga heh

8:48 AM

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Longcat

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell coworker yelled at you when he didn't have any toilet paper? lol now I'm confused.

@Rob never ceases to amuse me

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Anyway I always make sure to have spare toilet paper, at least 30 rolls.

Otherwise, you'd be in ...

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Ah, no sorry. Now I'm mixing up two things. Coworker had nothing stashed either. Brother yelled at me ;)

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I mean, this is mostly our situation too: There's a stash in the pantry, all you have to do is get some rolls from there and stash them in the toilet instead XD

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

8:50 AM

@Tinkeringbell oh lol, I see. So how coworker.... cleaned himself in toilets?!

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard kitchen roll

@Tinkeringbell I thought sis gets used to brother's habits lmao

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell lol, thought you mean the one using the last roll should go and buy from the market. ;)

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard No, not even...

Though of course that's also something to consider ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

My spare paper is always in the toilets, stashed below the sink.

No need to go even one step. :D

@Tinkeringbell ouch, hurts just to imagine using it. Though during army I had worse. :/

8:52 AM

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog sure, just edited it.

FWIW, I didn't get a notification from your edit.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@rene I succeeded, both of my kids who use toilets replace the roll when they finish it. Though if they would have to go fetch it from other room like @Tink's case, it might be different...

Poor Glo, dives into the mess that is the backscroll above.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

lol

@Rob thanks for the warning. Didn't do it yet because I'm doing too many things at once (as usual).

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Glorfindel there's a cake.

8:55 AM

tomorrow there will be orange cakes

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell having a one roll stash and topping up when that's used is usually the workflow we use for things like that :D

Likely more important than our late night Tavern chat.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Glorfindel do share, please! ;)

@JourneymanGeek We have 'roll holders' that take 2-3 rolls. If you put the last one from that stash onto the 'dispenser', you're expected to refill the roll holder. At least, if you're female.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek thought you don't use any rolls at all?

8:57 AM

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard hema.nl/eten-drinken/gebak/tompoucen/…

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard or similar things

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek you mean for nose? Tissue paper is much more nose friendly. ;)

Though it does cost more.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard items that would be troublesome if we ran out :D

(we do have TP, but was for the late Mr Ash)

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Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@JourneymanGeek oh, lol. (And sorry for bringing up sad memories)

8:59 AM

Haven't had orange cake for a long time.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I think nearly all of Ash's memories are happy, and well - it was a good life

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Glorfindel thanks!

@JourneymanGeek :)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

My family members can't be bothered to actually put the roll into the dispenser. If it runs out, they do put a new roll, but don't actually mount it, just put the roll on top of the empty cardboard tube

Journeyman Geek

My mom's convinced dad wants another dog and is going to turn up with one some day. I'll probably need to look at doggo number 2 if everything works out ;)

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

I'm the one who takes the empty tube out and actually mounts it

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

9:01 AM

This is the tissue paper brand I'm using, costs a lot but worth it.

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Just sniff, it's good to recycle.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

I've switched from blowing my nose to taking medicine that stops the running. Much more worth your money

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog and that's why they don't bother.... try to not do it for a while and see what happens. ;)

@JourneymanGeek good, glad to hear!

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I prefer to not take medicine for non-vital things, i.e. if something doesn't stop me from functioning properly I won't take meds for it. So I do take for headaches when they become too intense, for example, but not for runny nose.

Plus, didn't know there is medicine for it. hmm....

@Rob sniff what?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Cetirizine

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9:08 AM

@Rob It's kind of sad when you're so ugly your nose starts running like that...

9:26 AM

@Glorfindel srsly? ...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@rene ?

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard it doesn't translate well. The button should probably say "I Want This" which in Dutch could tranlate as "Ik wil het/hem". Our King is named "Willem" so Ik willem sounds about right. It is the worst joke ever. Tomorrow is the Kings birthday, celebrated with orange tompouche.

@rene that's more or less the quality of my jokes on Friday afternoon

Yeah. The Hema has a whole department for these jokes ...

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@rene ohhh, think I got it. lol

Journeyman Geek

10:32 AM

hm, Gambling ads, in alcohol SE, with the name of a croatian foodball site in... malay or bahasa indonesia?

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@Glorfindel Per Makyen's comment, can you please try making an edit to my answer again, this time adding in actual text instead of just a link?

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog done

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

10:49 AM

@Glorfindel Thanks! Can you please confirm whether or not you were notified of the second title edit I just made? If not, I'll edit in more details, and if so, I'll self-revert.

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Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

11:59 AM

@ColeValleyGirl hey! Long time no see..... how are you?

Tea, or coffee?

Still half cake too, scroll above to see. ;)

:(

12:30 PM

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Keeping on keeping on. I lurk at least once a day here... but am swamped with other 'stuff' to do.

Cake would be lovely... just don't tell my cardiologist. Am signed up for a drug trial which is intended to help me lose weigh. Or to help 50% of the participants to lose weight: double blind. I do hope I won't be injecting myself weekly for absolutely no gain :)

However, should I be sent to jail for murdering somebody on another forum, I will of course take delivery of cakes with a file inside

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As light relief, I'm stomping on profile spam on the site I moderate. Gambling, sex services, random 'SEO' for small businesses. Every day I destroy more peoples dreams of Internat fame.

And coffee always. No such thing as to much caffeine.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Keep going @Cole and thanks for sharing! Cake is on its way. :D

!!/coffee Cole

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard brews a cup of Affogato for @Cole

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

And coffee too!

12:41 PM

That's what I need. Slurp!!!

!!/coffee Shadow

@ColeValleyGirl brews a cup of Ristretto for @Shadow

Have some yourself

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Thanks!

As one vaccinated person to another, it seems only kind.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

hehe, true!

12:44 PM

I'm jealous.... just a little, I'm getting my first one next Saturday.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

BTW, if I'm vaccinated does it mean I can drink from somebody else cup, or let others drink from my cup, without fear of the COVID? Even my kids stopped sharing drinks during the COVID, lol.

(well, my wife was very strict from the very beginning)

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard They told me that even after I was vaccinated I still had to follow the guidelines on prevention (washing hands, distance...). I wouldn't :P

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell oh, bummer. :/

taking back the cup

:D

Here they don't really say anything, official guidelines were always very blurry.

@Tinkeringbell Better Late.... glad to hear it's finally coming. :)

Well ours aren't always very clear either, but it's what the lady on the phone told me XD

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell phone? Oh, you asked about getting the vaccine?

12:48 PM

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard "Late"... I'm massively cutting in line, I'm getting mine because of my morbid obesity. If I had waited to get an appointment until my age was allowed, I wouldn't have had one before the end of July, I think.

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

Here it was matter of clicking a button to order what is usually a doctor's appointment, just that instead of doctor appointment, it was getting a vaccine.

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Yeah, appointment was made by phone :)

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard That is so nice!

Didn't you read the whole monologue I wrote about how I made my appointment, in your Den? :P

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Tinkeringbell oh wow, that's not good.

@Tinkeringbell I sometimes.... skip.... long texts...

hides behind a bush

turns out the bush is actually @Mith

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Shame on you! :P chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/8835185#8835185 < Start there, if you're interested ;)

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

:D

12:50 PM

Goes on the next day as well: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/8835656#8835656

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard -_-

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

@Mithical I see you

Not my fault you were standing outside and looked like a bush.

:P

1:25 PM

@Tinkeringbell Oof!-- not good. I had already been classified as 'extremely clinically vulnerable' by: my GP; the local hospital; and the nearest heart transplant centre; so getting on the schedule for a vaccination was not an issue. Had the AZ vaccine - haven't died yet. :) and am unlikely too, now. The risks with Pfizer and similar vaccines are higher because I've had anaphylaxis before, so I was very pleased to get the AZ vaccine.

@ColeValleyGirl That's good to hear! We literally spent two weeks here worrying our heads off, as my mother had the AZ one and was feeling ill for that long.... :/

(including things like a sore/very heavy feeling in her legs, which can also be a sign of thrombosis..)

@Tinkeringbell I long for a disinterested assessment of the risks of various vaccines re the risks of not having them. Nobody is doing that as far as I can see because of politicz!!!

I think it's very hard to make such risk assessments too. Because having any vaccine is better than having no vaccine *once* you get infected with the virus.

But the chances of getting covid-19 are very hard to calculate on an individual level.

@ColeValleyGirl ema.europa.eu/en/documents/chmp-annex/…

I can work from home, when I'm home I wash my hands and keep my distance from my parents and brother.

1:36 PM

For the Biontech and Moderna vaccines the risks are neglible as far known so far

@Tinkeringbell And it isn't so much the risk of getting it that matters than the risk of getting it and being seriously ill.

So if I were to get an infection, it would be from one of them. Which isn't unlikely, since my dad works outside, my mom works with covid patients from time to time and my brother is a plain covidiot, still regularly meeting his 20 friends or throwing parties....

@ColeValleyGirl Yeah, those two multiply... it's like throwing two dice, and the chance of both of them showing a six...

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard their camo skills are clearly up to scratch

But some people get one 20 sided dice and one 3 sided one, while others get two six-sided dices...

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell I'm also fairly certain quite a lot of it is also about what varient of the virus it is

1:40 PM

@JourneymanGeek That's another dice to add then :P

@MadScientist See, that's the kind of data that leaves people totally bemused. What's the risk of having the relevant rare blood clotting problem after having the AZ vaccine versus having it without going anywhere near a vaccine?

the observed cases are significantly above the background, so this wouldn't change much as far as I understand

Tech Expert Wizard

@Tin sorry, could I please ask a question about the temporarily frozen Café?

no

Tech Expert Wizard

@Tin (((

1:47 PM

@MadScientist Whereas in the UK, we're being told the observed cases are similar to the background... Numbers, statistics and damned statistics. Also that getting the AZ vaccine is better than getting no vaccine (and the alternatives are increasingly reserved for the young(ish).

@ColeValleyGirl The UK has a very similar graphic to the one I linked, there is not really a big disagreement on the numbers, only a bit on where to draw the line by age for recommending the vaccine.

@MadScientist I suspect the booster jabs this autumn will be driven ore by availability than by science.

Journeyman Geek

@ColeValleyGirl We kinda have the wierd issue where our economy is dependant on cheap labour - and the two major sources are...

India and China...

I think we'll have full coverage by Q3 or 4

@JourneymanGeek No need for boosters?

Journeyman Geek

@ColeValleyGirl no idea yet

pzifer and Moderna is supposed to be good enough

We got the former, they just started rolling out the latter

1:58 PM

@Tinkeringbell I kinda hope that in a few thousand years from now, someone will find some corrupted texts from this age, and wonder what this "covidiot" creature some mentions was.

Well, yeah... I'm working on the assumption I'll need a yearly (even twice yearly booste) to deal with variants. Like flu.

I could see future anthropologists think it was a sort of foolish imp mythological creature that would prank people with bad luck and illness.

2:12 PM

☕️

Journeyman Geek

That is a strange looking toilet

Shadow The Vaccinated Wizard

2:54 PM

@JourneymanGeek of course, basic army training. ;)

I found @Mith

user image

@JourneymanGeek well, technically it's possible to use cup of coffee as toilets, it just requires awesome precision and a mop. :D

or a larger mug

Accelerating Stack Overflow’s transformation

Prashanth Chandrasekar on April 26, 2021

This quarter’s post from our CEO focuses on two strategic priorities: Product-led Transformation and Predictable and Reliable Financial Performance, both of which add value to our community and our customers by allowing us to continue to support and resource them better.

that's a scary title

2

ominous is the word I was looking for

Journeyman Geek

3:13 PM

puts on his management major hat

> A lot of SaaS-focused technology companies talk about being product-led. What does that mean? It means putting your product and user at the center of all you do, and leveraging your product to attract, activate, and retain your customers.

tbh, I think someone gets most of us won't know what that means and explained it

> Delivering Predictable & Reliable Financial Performance

"We kinda don't want to worry about where we're going to get money next year"

> . We have also seen growth in our annual recurring revenue (ARR) and increases in our net renewal rates (NRR), two key metrics for measuring the health of a product-led SaaS company like Stack Overflow.

"They keep paying us, which is good."

The bit about careers is a bit too long for a hot take - but it looks a lot like them quitting the 'recruitment' business

🚽

Journeyman Geek

@user400654 that's a strange looking coffee mug

@Feeds I'm really not sure what the audience for this is, it reads like something for investors, not users

@Feeds lmao, even SO's CEO is Indian

Journeyman Geek

@BabaYaga Has been a while

he's good

@MadScientist Blog's always been marketing and "public" outreach post Jeff

3:22 PM

not surprised

Journeyman Geek

and tbh, its a much better use of it these days

Journeyman Geek

3:52 PM

hmm

@JourneymanGeek I saw "Baba". I saw "has been a while". For a second I was thinking the black magic spam was here again.

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