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Q: Is it bad to use your "real name" as your user name?

5:19 AM

Twas their undoing ...

2 days ago, by Rob

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I use my real name. However, I started wondering if this is bad and am considering changing it. I ask A LOT of questions on Stack Overflow, way more than I answer. Mainly because for most questions that I can answer, someone else beats me to the punch. So I just up-vote them instead. Anyone can...

In reference to a recent question / rant.

7:15 AM

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o/

7:29 AM

\o

How was your couch this weekend Tink?

crap.

I thought they had toilets for that ;)

Thanks for reminding me I had so much fun cleaning those over and over the past days.

why's that?

You turned sick?

7:42 AM

No, the covidiot threw parties.

And those people are gross....

And well, still this, just one less brother.

@Tinkeringbell and a bit more mature now, atleast age-wise ;)

Yeah, no.

I would camp at your new apartment as soon as possible ...

Does it have a roof yet?

@rene The idea did cross my mind. Expected delivery date is July 30th now.

7:49 AM

Take a tarp ...

@Luuklag Sort-of, I'm at the ground level floor and have an upstairs neighbor :P

@rene I have a tent. I'm just not sure if that would violate curfew or not :P

you're inside, right?

I think the lines on whether tents count as inside is fuzzy.

And unfinished apartments too

My dad got busted for breaking curfew (mind you, he lived through the WWII) because he went to posting a card in the letterbox of the neighbors across the street, at 22:30 ... no idea why that had that much urgency.

@Tinkeringbell ask your local BOA?

@rene I should've done that when the cops were here...

7:55 AM

Yeah, you should cease the opportunity, always.

It just didn't cross my mind at ~3AM XD

You need to learn to be always sharp, just like me ...

@rene Sorry, I am a Java programmer, I don't C# - it's all just blurry

OK, I actually write more JavaScript and C# nowadays. But was employed as a Java programmer at my current place.

Funnily, I'm the only person wearing glasses at work, all the others were employed for their C# skills and none of them wear glasses or any eye correction. That's not a joke but still funny.

8:10 AM

Long as you F#

@VLAZ coming from a Java background, just switch to PascalCasing and you're done.

@Tinkeringbell Party of the covidiot really went wild then?

@Luuklag I would say 'derailed' was a better description than wild.

@rene Yeah, I'm aware. I don't find big enough differences other than trying to look up some standard library stuff from time to time. Not that I don't do this in Java, either...

@Tinkeringbell Tickets were issued?

8:24 AM

@Luuklag Yep.

And a lot of whining about "the consequences of my own actions" followed. Because it's of course totally unfair to get a ticket for breaking the rules, and none of this would have ever happened if ...

Hope you yourself were spared

Yeah. Bed-hair and pyjama's helped convince the cops I wasn't partying, and only got dragged out of bed a few minutes before they arrived.

Still, there's funnier things I've ever done than talk to a cop halfdressed.

@Tinkeringbell haha yeah sounds about right

Talking them when shitfaced drunk isn't nice either

I was sober, or does sleep-drunk count?

I was shitfaced sleep-drunk....

@Tinkeringbell I guess pictures or it didn't happen is inappropriate here. I'll leave it at that.

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8:36 AM

@rene .... I do hope no one took any, I actually forgot to check ... crap.

I once was shitfaced drunk, returning home from a party at something like 4am. I walk onto the parkinglot behind our apartment complex and there are about 6 cops there. One putting a flashlight into my face. I'm all like wtf your doing, let me go to bed I'm drunk.

Turned out they were there because my housemate was too drunk to remember the correct floor we were living on, and was trying to open the apartment above ours. It took about 8 policemen to comb through the building to look for a suspected burglar, when my housemate was already asleep in his bed by the time they got there.

:D

Tink, can you kick this to MSO? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/362650/…

9:01 AM

@Luuklag Let's give it a few minutes/hours, see if they delete/repost or not. Like you said, if the comments already answered it, this would probably fall under 'don't migrate crap'

@Tinkeringbell yeah, true

9:12 AM

I'd concur with DMC

takedown notice?

"don't migrate crap", I suspect

don't migrate crap .....

;)

The other one is DMCA - Digital Millenium Copyright Act. But it's also a US law.

also Run DMC.... which has nothing to do with either ;)

9:15 AM

Gets murky if it's applied internationally. It's valid but not in all circumstances.

@JourneymanGeek There is also Devil May Cry. Also unrelated.

Deseret Management Corporation

@VLAZ There are also a gazillion other unrelated things: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMC

Of which this one is the best xD

The Deseret Management Corporation (DMC) ( (listen)) is a management and holding company of for-profit businesses owned by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church). It was established in 1966 by church president David O. McKay to hold already-existing church assets. == Subsidiaries == The following are DMC subsidiaries: Beneficial Financial Group: insurance, investment, and retirement services. Bonneville International Corporation: owns radio stations nationwide, Bonneville Communications, Bonneville Interactive, and Bonneville Satellite Company. Deseret Book: LDS publisher...

Isn't the LDS church the Mormons?

yup

They apparently publish the second largest newspaper in Utah

Right, so we all agree that the question should be forwarded there to be printed in that Utah paper, right? :P

yeah, sounds about the right quality standard

JNat

11:18 AM

@Spevacus gone; maybe next time ;)

1:08 PM

@JNat new try to start a backlog of cross-site spammers: stackexchange.com/users/21094871/jerru-queen?tab=accounts

And number 2 for the list @JNat: stackexchange.com/users/14998555/emma?tab=accounts

JNat

1:40 PM

@Luuklag gone

Mint: A new language designed for building single page applications

Don't crush my hopes like that ;)

JNat

heh ;P

Feeds

2:15 PM

Ryan Donovan on March 29, 2021

The JavaScript ecosystem has grown to become unwieldy. Mint promises is a simplified front-end development experience, but not a library or a framework—a new language designed for SPAs.

2:34 PM

🚽

2:48 PM

@Feeds Pffft, because that's what we need: more languages.

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

javascript is awful and bloated, you should use something that compiles to it

Yeah, everything does. That Mint should also do that.

Well, there is TS, JSX, TSX, Jade, CoffeeScript

All of these are "solutions"

> Because Mint offers a set of language-level features that is impossible to replicate in JavaScript without resorting to a “heckin chunk” of libraries for the basics.

lmao

To generate #1 albums, 'jay --help' recommends the -z flag.

for some reason that came to mind

> If you're havin' number problems, I feel bad for you, son,
> I got NaN problems, 'cuz it ain't NaN.

2:51 PM

rofl

so we have an application that pulls up data from a db, and creates a set of tables related to how many client machines are active and whether they have a specific issue...

and when there's no client machines available... it says NAN%

basically a pluralization error

(of course work is hairbrained and we copy those tables into excel, swap out the NAN% and do a load of other stuff manually cause why not...)

I'm hungry...

🍝

Too many nan

2:53 PM

@user400654 "If A=0 then B=NA else ..."

NaaanNaaanNaaanNaNaaan... BREADMAAAAN....

that image from the article - why are the same icons showing up more than once on the right?

M.A.R.

Can't you essentially naaannaaan almost every song?

> The double equals is very problematic, and its use is discouraged so we got rid of it and renamed === ==

Wizard's hat (honestly don't know what that is) - second row, third item, last row last item.

Ramda - second row fifth item, last row second item

M.A.R.

It's the old Windows wizard

Man, those were the times

2:57 PM

The bullseye (also dunno) - first row sixth item, fourth row third item, fifth row first item

M.A.R.

I got a kick out of everything. I didn't need Suez canal memes to get me going

They duplicated icons in that box to make it look like more than it is

also... they forgot jquery

one of the icons are in there 4 times

there was certainly more than just "js" in 2009

Yeah. Removed some duplicates. There are also two alternative versions of the JS logo.

Meta Andrew T.

Blame React ecosystem

like, i remember having a full list of libraries/frameworks to go through back in 09 to decide what we were going to use in the foreseeable future

3:02 PM

@user400654 Let's assume for a moment there was "only" JS. It...wasn't really a singular thing. Trying to run the same code on different browsers would have been a huge pain. Even different versions of IE would just run it differently and have different bugs in the same piece of code just to mess with you

yeah, i mean, i had to support IE7 till all the work pc's moved off of XP

Why does the React ecosystem include Angular?

And Ramda, of all things.

Meta Andrew T.

Good question. I don't know what's up with React also.

3:20 PM

Oh, I now actually read the article. The XKCD joke is already in it. Now I don't feel special.

3:46 PM

They couldn't do it, without our help.

3:59 PM

The angry reception:

huh.. when a user isn't "top" anything, their profile shows a blue line where the "top x%" box woulda been (i suppose the box is just empty, leaving just the border for some reason)

4:20 PM

Why are we closing maintenance announcements as no repro?

Please don't do that.

Spevacus

4:35 PM

Yeah I was about to ask if that's really what we should be doing.

Well, guess you were saved some effort then :P

Spevacus

Indeed.

Felt a bit weird.

6:37 PM

@Catija blame me ;) It could no longer be reproduced and hey, there's a close reason just like that :)

That's for bugs pretty much exclusively.

Mithical

...and I dislike that it's a close reason at all...

Well you can't reproduce saturday march 27, 2021. Unless you glitch the matrix I guess.

Also what good would an answer do to it?

We don't close questions because we don't want answers.

That's... not how it works. If that's how we wanted the system to work we'd close every question with an accepted answer which - I think you'd agree - would be... wrong?

7:06 PM

i mean... the main goal of closure is to prevent further answers until the question can be improved. Meta is just different

A question having no possible answer (or possible additional answer) isn't a reason to prevent further answers or actions

@Catija I get where you're going at, but your example isn't the best. An accepted answer is by no means definitive in my eyes, it can in 99% of cases be improved (unless Jon Skeet wrote it ofc.).

:D

Sure - Accepting is a terrible signal :P

Or, it's an excellent signal for a question where you probably want to look at the second answer. :P

Whats is an acceptable alternative to rep wh*res?

abusive user

sentence is: "Is this in order to block minor edits from reputation wh*res?"

7:17 PM

err, that's just an incorrect description

suggesting edits is a notoriously poor way of obtaining rep, i wouldn't consider them users who are doing everything they can to earn rep at a detriment of the overall quality of the site.

Yeah it's an old question bumped by an approved edit. I want to take out the wh*Res part, but not change the post too much

There is a mod when you are in need of guidance! welcome Tink

@Luuklag Prostitute is the neat English word for it, I think :P

Q: What's a less offensive substitute for "rep-whores"?

Damn, I just entered it in google, and see what I found :)

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This is a frequently thrown-around term on Internet forums in general and Stack Exchange specifically. Although it conveys a lot of meaning, I'd much prefer a phrase with a less offensive origin. Urban Dictionary defines a "rep-whore" as: A person who is obsessed with their status on an inte...

word-choice phrase-requests epithet-requests

Mithical

@Luuklag "...from people making edits just for reputation?"

@Luuklag I came by to link you to meta.stackexchange.com/q/281787/369802

Last paragraph, about there being no need to change past usage

7:21 PM

@Tinkeringbell I agree that one should not set out to actively seek it out and change it. But when I'm already changing the post I should make all possible improvements

and retiring this term is definetly an improvement IMHO

will the world benefit from that post being edited?

been seeing a lot of old useless stuff getting substantial edits lately

@user400654 anonymous suggestions right?

haven't paid that close attention

@Luuklag I got the impression that was the only change you'd make, or your major reason for even considering further changes...

just kinda frustrating to see an interesting post pop up, only to realize it's old and irrelevant

7:23 PM

@Tinkeringbell It was an anon suggested edit on the front page, that left room for further improvement

meta.stackexchange.com/posts/82020/revisions

particularly on super slow sites like meta's

But if there's other stuff that needs changing, pick one from the ELU post, and stick a link to it on the edit description... And hope the one that originally posted it doesn't know that the official post says there's no need to purge past usage and starts a rollback war

I just opted to rewrite the sentence to be less "mean". Replacing a poor term for a different poor term didn't really resonate with me.

I linked your link in the edit description. So hopefully that's that.

ARGH stupid excel

why can't you just use a vba value consistently

sometimes it uses my fixed value as 0.025 just like it is, sometimes it uses it as 2,5

@Luuklag Yeah, until the person that originally wrote those words reads that post carefully and starts to rules lawyer... It's main meta after all :P

stupid decimal seperator stuff

7:27 PM

Good luck with your excel...can't help, sorry.

So I'm going to shower and sleep. Night!

@Tinkeringbell need to recover from the weekend ;)

good night!

9:31 PM

@Catija It was odd to be outvoted, it's as though the close voters thought they'd help the CM by ganging up to do what they could easily do for themself; then when it's reopened they question the decision.

Robs apparently were on one side and everyone else on the other. ;)

Well Taryn's not a CM anymore - she's got a much better title... "Staff Database Reliability Engineer" :D But she's definitely still capable of closing her own post. :)

That does happen in the Review Queues from time to time, then I get what appears to be a secret Review Audit (it doesn't say pass or fail, it just looks odd; and I'm the only reviewer in the History, for that one particular review). But, extra reviews for me. :)

10:32 PM

@Rob Was actually a coming together of all forces; including the Sun and the Moon. --- Once freed there was a joyful celebration. 🎉🎉🎉

@Catija does she have a staff? 🤣