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12:22 AM
 
 
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5:45 AM
@Feeds onebox best practice
hey, the slug is different than the title...
 
@MetaAndrewT. how to keep your URL clean and modern
 
5:59 AM
could we keep our oneboxen clean and modern?
 
It's very clean. Almost like it's not there.
 
I do like the minimalist onebox style, which I shall dub nobox
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6:24 AM
36 messages moved to Chimney
 
6:54 AM
o/
 
-o-
 
A tavern full of dutchies, this can only end badly!
 
Yep.
 
I'll call the cops.
 
7:00 AM
@Tinkeringbell you know all to well about that ;)
 
That was the joke...
 
 
1 hour later…
8:04 AM
So, three Dutchmen walk into a tavern...
 
And get fined because it's illegal with current covid restrictions.
That's the best-case scenario, the worst-case one involves rioting.
 
8:20 AM
What are the fines like?
 
I think we start at 95 euro's but they do offer premium rates as well ...
 
Around here we had a few fines a year ago that were more to scare off people. They were between 500 and 2500 euro. But AFAIK, only a few were handed out.
 
@VLAZ Like rene said, 95 euros. I don't think they go higher, not since the hubbub last year where people complained because any fines over 100 euros mean you have a criminal record.
Like, it's so very sad that someone that knowingly breaks the rules during a pandemic can not study to become a nurse?!
(that was one of the arguments used)
 
Eh, that seems a bit better. Means you can also be more liberal in handing them out.
 
@VLAZ Heh, if only that had been the consequence....
 
8:25 AM
Well, there was news around here when some student took a walk with his father and they were fined 1000 euro (combined, I think). But I don't think we've had many of those, really.
And people are going around or public transport without masks because nobody would really bother trying to fine them. Well, often they'd be told to put a mask on but that's it.
 
I've honestly heard people say that 95 euros was less than what they'd normally spend on dinner + a night out, so it's no big deal to break the rules to party anyways.
 
When going into a shop, there is usually a guard reminding people to put masks on. Well, you wouldn't be let in without one. But you can just take it off after setting foot inside.
 
@VLAZ Yeah, no one actually checks here. As far as the rules go, they're pretty useless. I was at the supermarket a few weeks back and there was this wappie without a mask just chatting at me like I was the nicest person in the world...
 
@Tinkeringbell Uh, yeah. That's the other side of it. Make the fines small enough and it's just a fee to pay to do something. Problem with rich people. You can go park anywhere and just pay the parking ticket. It discourages poor people.
 
Yeah, that's why I like the idea of it being higher and being tied to a criminal record better. That should discourage most rich people too.
Btw, the criminal record was scrapped around the same time a politician was berated for having held a wedding without respecting social distancing etc. So he'd have had a criminal record, but suddenly the criminal record was disproportional :P
 
8:32 AM
Crusader Kings 2 has a mechanic which is hilariously broken the other way around. Some costs are adjusted to the amount of income you get. So, if you only earn 1 gold a month, you'd pay less than somebody who earns 100 gold a month. Which is for balance but you end up in a situation where an event says "you lose a lot of gold" and for a low earner that's something like 1.6, while for high earner it might be a thousand.
Characters usually have around 100-500 gold on hand. So, if you earn a lot, you may end up bankrupt. If not, then it's barely a dent.
 
But if you earn a lot, it's just a minute of playing before you have new gold?
 
Depends - if you earn a lot, you usually also have larger expenses. The scaled wealth mechanic only takes in income. So you might earn 100 gold a month but also spend 70 giving you a net 30 income. But the prices you pay are based on the 100.
And being bankrupt might be an issue. If you've hired mercenaries and you run out of gold, they might just decide to defect to the other side or just attack you.
So, if you go bankrupt in a middle of a war, things might become interesting.
 
Ah, yeah, that's broken. :P
 
@Tinkeringbell Yeah or people claim to have a medical condition and are unable to wear one.
But then you can't ask them for a docters note, because that would be invading on their doctor-patient privilige
 
or you're just bad at budgeting. If you earn 100, of course you need to make sure there's enough freely available income and savings for unexpected expenses.
 
8:40 AM
Which reminds me, I need to see a doctor this afternoon, so I better go buy some lunch now.
@Tinkeringbell Go visit personal finance and learn ;)
ohhh that's one fancy one-box
 
I like the ampersand. Such flourish.
 
@Luuklag Oh, this was a true wappie, she talked enough to show a true lack of knowledge on basic virus transmission and a firm belief in various conspiracies. It was something to hear an actual human being (and not an anymous internet account) spew such nonsense.
@Luuklag It's VLAZ that needs to go there then. I can budget!
 
@Tinkeringbell probably was in Urk on sunday as well ;)
 
@Luuklag Probably not. Wasn't wearing a ankle-length skirt.
 
Or at Urk you should say, they still consider themselves an island.
 
8:43 AM
on Urk? :P
Go buy your lunch. Or you'll end up going to the doctor hungry.
 
@Tinkeringbell "Hi, I run a merchant republic. My family controls seven cities. How much money do I need to keep in stock in case I want to forge a sword while also investing into more armies?"
 
Skip the Hi, thats fluff
 
"Thanks in advanced"
 
Also, is it money or gold? :P
 
"praised be the Lord"
 
8:46 AM
Eh, the game doesn't actually give it a name. It's cash, money, gold, wealth. Whatever. The picture is of coins. Most people call it gold.
 
Argh stupid roomba is being retarded
 
Computer programs don't make mistakes. The humans programming them do ;)
 
It was stuck in the hallway, at about the position of its dock
 
@VLAZ Ah, one of those nicely ambiguous things...
 
But unable to gonout of the haleay, into the kitchen
 
8:49 AM
Sounds like some cats I've seen.
 
I liked our previous one better
Except for that it had to be returned twice
 
chat down?
 
no
 
oh up again
It was down for me for a minute
 
9:07 AM
@QueenieGoldstein if chat was down what sense does asking on chat make?
 
@JourneymanGeek Would you prefer someone typing test?
 
That's traditional
 
@QueenieGoldstein cool profile :D
 
test
oh, jobs is up...
 
What a coinceDance
 
9:30 AM
@Luuklag That is...uh, a very efficient video clip.
 
yeah, i was looking for that song, but there wasn't a real thing
I think its something off off tiktok
 
That might make sense.
 
10:17 AM
@Luuklag is this hammered incorrectly: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/362683 ?
 
@rene dunno, leave it closed for now.
its too vague anyways
 
10:47 AM
I tried joining math chat--fail
tried physics chat -- fail
tried security -- fail
tried meta stack because it's almost disconnected -- worked...
Makes sense now?
 
ah wierd
You coulda saif that server :D
 
ugh, different chat servers.
 
 
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12:42 PM
@rene according to the link you posted in the comments here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/362686/… I should flag your comment ;)
Any room owner willingly to remove the pinned message about the maintenance?
 
@Luuklag I would but I don't see one pinned
 
@JourneymanGeek beat you to it
 
Clearly... in a blurred manner
 
absolutly
 
1:07 PM
@Spevacus already flagged here
 
'preciated :D
 
@Spevacus kaboom
 
/o/
 
Put that one out of our misery
 
Thank ya.
 
1:53 PM
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Q: We need a "former staff" account flag

MachavityNot too long ago a flag in user accounts was added to help denote SO staff The catch here is that it doesn't indicate who was previously staff. This problem was originally limited to tertiary employees like Pops or Oded (where they didn't have a huge impact on front-facing sites), or famous pe...

The simplest option seems to be to (optionally) just say "<role> from 2010-2020" in one's profile if it matters
its just as confusing if folks assume stuff staff say pre-hiring is canonical, as opposed to "makes sense"
 
All stacks want to give me cookies.
I'm flattered but...why the sudden generosity?
 
@VLAZ They finally rolled the cookies out to other stacks?
I noticed one on MSE... after accepting that I didn't get one yet on IPS though.
 
@JourneymanGeek I propose a no-staff and no-longer-staff for all users
 
and a staff staff for staff staff.
 
@Tinkeringbell SO, MSE, WB are the ones I've checked so far.
I accepted on SO but the others still give me the popup.
 
2:00 PM
@VLAZ Perhaps you need to accept them still on at least one .stackexchange site? There was someting with domains and cookies, iirc.
 
OK, accepting on MSE did accept everywhere.
 
I think its cause its all on the foo.stackexchange.com domain
the original trilogy and AU might be seperate
 
Ah, yeah - it's domain based. MathOverflow also wants to give me cookies.
Wait, I just noticed this: why is it MathOverflow all one word? Stack Overflow is two words.
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah they are
they also throw me out of the full mobile at differnt times
 
2:21 PM
o/
 
yup, had a good run :)
and today it felt weird without bonfire
 
Haha. I wish you the best as you move onward and upward!
 
<3
 
Goodbye and thank you for all the cheese!
 
2:25 PM
o7
 
2:39 PM
You already have plans on where to go next @g3rv4?
 
@Luuklag yup! I'll be joining the good old Jay Hanlon at process.st
 
Looks cool
best of luck getting started there!
 
thanks! I gotta learn Scala, so that's going to be fun
 
@g3rv4 I can't help it but every time I see Scala I think of the opera house: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Scala which begs the question: Are you a good singer?
 
@rene ouch! it seems like I didn't do my research before accepting the offer
 
2:50 PM
LOL
 
 
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4:34 PM
@g3rv4 :(
 
@Catija <3
 
@g3rv4 Have fun at your new place. :) You will be missed.
 
@Catija thanks :) I've already started the missing part :P it was a heck of a ride. Wish I had worked closer to the community side at some point
I guess... I can keep that on my bucket list to make my grand return
 
Rob
@g3rv4 Looks like the work will be Slack, and done remotely; in ReScala. 😀
 
@Rob ReScala? TIL that's a thing :)
I enjoy working on integrations a lot
 
Rob
4:47 PM
@g3rv4 As bad as the LAscala joke..., Slant has a page on learning Scala resources: slant.co/topics/1069/~resources-to-learn-scala
Good luck there, remote is an advantage in these times.
 
:) I've been doing remote since 2007... I don't know any other way tbh
also, the times I went to Stack Overflow's HQ (never more than a couple weeks at a time) the whole office vibe was super... tiring for me
also, I don't know how people are productive in an office (even if you have a nice door you can close)
it took me a while to understand where I was supposed to seat for lunch
 
@g3rv4 You learn to shut some things out, and there's not much else to do but work since everyone can see your screen :P
 
@Tinkeringbell heh, in my case... it was harder to do as much work as I do when I'm remote
 
Remote comes with its own distractions. I still hate calls that could've been e-mails, they've just replaced people knocking on your desk. As for noise, the neighbors make about as much background noise as the office did soo... I haven't really been more or less productive now that I've been working remote for a year.
I do like it, but for other reasons ;)
 
yeah, you can't just say "we're all remote" and have that just work
so... COVID-remote is not a remote-first working environment
unless there's been work done at every level in the company, async is the default communication mechanism and people are given the tools to make remote work, it's a band-aid
 
5:02 PM
asynchronous communication is slowly becoming the default here, it's just the old people that prefer calling. But those are also the people wanting to go back to an office, because that's where they can interrupt you in person ;) The other two are pretty much covered though, as far as I know the entire client is working from home, except the technicians that do gas/electric installations etc. And the tools are fine too.
 
Rob
@g3rv4 The stiff super-corporate structure used to appeal to me when I was very young, the glass entrances and massive boardroom table took little time to master where to stand and sit; but ultimately the pay didn't cover the dry cleaning, and advancement is too slow - the only thing they really understood well is that you're leaving, and they're screwed now; but they'd never admit it until you came back a year later for a visit.
 
@Tinkeringbell yeah, it makes sense that for some people remote is an adjustment. I know that in office would be a huge adjustment for me
 
Rob
'West Coast style' became the way forward for a lot of places, with casual Friday being extended to all week.
 
@Rob it was definitely a nice experience... also, I was lucky to join the company (and visit) in 2016. It was a cool place with cool people. Def didn't feel super-corporate then, it was super fun (which... yeah, made it harder to do actual work :P)
and... Stack is the closest I've been to corporate culture (which even today, is not suuuuper corporate). Honestly, that's not the environment for me to thrive
 
Rob
Some places do have the "happy wanderer"; whose seemingly only purpose it to wander from desk to desk with inane observations and unneeded interruptions. Takes a while to ween them, and get removed from their delivery route.
 
5:08 PM
I don't think the offices I've ever been to for work were anything close to corporate culture either, though the Dutch head office (which I've visited a few times) is. That's the one you go to wearing your Sunday clothes, because you know there's big clients visiting and you should look representative XD
 
:D
 
5:53 PM
it was tempting to return the insults in the answer but after the edit I leave it at this.
 
 
1 hour later…
7:12 PM
Nice answer about review suspensions Catija
Has the flair for <200 rep users always been like this:
 
I think so, yes
 
@JNat can you confirm that this is new, seeing you added it to several posts
 
it is not new, no
it's always been like that, as far as I can remember
 
7:29 PM
Hmmm I thought it just didn't show up before, you couldn't access it because you lacked the rep
 
oh, it's possible that the user themself wouldn't be able to access the flair, but if you know the URL structure you can add it like I did
and it'd always show like that
 
hmm okay, I could swear I'd never seen it before like this.
 
@Luuklag The same flair showed up for other CMs in the past, but we all gave them bounties to make sure they had enough rep
I gave one such bounty to Cesar M
 
okay, good to know.
I guess thats a call for Philippe to post some A's, otherwise there's nothign to give a bounty to.
He could start here and get his first 50 bonus points ;) meta.stackexchange.com/questions/361106/…
 
8:10 PM
Ben Popper on March 30, 2021
In this session, Cassie Tarakajian joins us to talk about all things p5.js, the Processing Foundation, and open source software.
 
🚽
 
@Luuklag Thanks :D
 
@Catija yw
 

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