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1:08 AM
@Luuklag heh. Or a meta mod 🤣
Actually one of my biggest failures at the moment is that if I can't be a mod for any reason on good terms, I have no clue who would be a 'natural' replacement
No plans to quit right now 😁
 
 
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4:34 AM
heppi our
@Feeds Building a Onebox on chat
 
5:00 AM
@SonictheCuriouserHedgehog gone
 
 
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12:17 PM
Hi! been a while
so i noticed some weird answer to a recent post on unix.SE
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A: curl get all links of a web-page

RobertAngus GermanHi I'm 79 years old worked for IBM ScientificDataCenter in ~1960 and I have 5 Grandkids that I would like to learn quantum Computing.. And try to explain it to us old farts, at IBM worked on 704 &1401, and made the mistake of sitting at my desk and saying yes. The 1401 was great, but fortran took...

the answer link ^
kinda look like either spam or SEO attempt
what do y'all think?
 
just NAA flag it and let a mod decide :D
 
@JourneymanGeek how do i do that? I know how to flag an user but don't know how to do this for an answer
 
Its one of the standard flag reasons
 
unless i don't have enough rep, don't see the button for it on the page hmm
 
that's fine then
I've flagged it
 
12:20 PM
@JourneymanGeek nvm, found it
ah
guess you were faster
what's the longest time you waited before having some comment/answer on a question?
 
a few days :D
 
wow
usually i get like one or two comment on some of my "hard to answer" question, sometimes only comment too
 
oh
months
 
Sometimes never :D
 
12:24 PM
yeah, i got at least 4 questions that never had an answer, although 3 of them were closed hmm
 
superuser.com/questions/475799/… I don't use jabber for that any more
 
@JourneymanGeek O-O
 
;)
I misunderstood the question
 
@JourneymanGeek never used GNUFreeTalk but i did tried other jabber client, forgot most of their name though given it's been a while i used jabber
 
But I try not to ask questions without doing my homework and having a very clear idea of what I want
@NordTheLoftyWizard ah, but the idea is I can 'send' messages to my phone
in 2021 I'd use matrix
 
12:29 PM
@JourneymanGeek yeah, sometimes i find that giving too many details on what you tried/know work can backfire, and get you more "offtopic" answer or even no answer at all (at least that's what i noticed)
 
@NordTheLoftyWizard oh I have a very simple pattern
 
yeah, i see what you mean.
Good thing matrix support so many protocol now, officially or not
 
> this is the big picture
> This is what I tried
> this is the minimum thing I need
right now, I'm researching on whether I can snoop on our tracing tokens for presense detection
so 1) what is my usecase and what will it be talking to?
2) what's my platform?
3) since bluetrace is open source , what would someone need to build a solution that detects that?
but without 1 and 2 a question about 3 is useless
 
for knowing this (controller of ssds) it depend if it's an actual full controller (like HDD have) or a weird one that can be faked by just flashing a custom firmware, like USB stick have. Not knowledgeable in SSDs but given how some brand/model are similar to USB NAND drive, i wouldn't be surprised.

Just knowing if the controller can be flashed or not can lead you to know if it has a chance to be fake, thus leading you closer to know the "real" controller. just my two cents
 
@NordTheLoftyWizard ah so the usecase here was I had a chinese cacheless SD
(so MLC but no cache)
I was wondering what controller it used
 
12:36 PM
@JourneymanGeek yeah, i seen some weird stuff on USB NAND drive, so i wouldn't be surprised if they used similar tactic for SSDs given the similarity.
at least, it's easier to know the real size if that's also something you'd like
 
@NordTheLoftyWizard oh this was a 'reputable' brand as far as chinesium SSDs went
but these were so new there was hardly any info on them, and the big brands hadn't started using them yet
 
I remember a reputable USB drive brand, let's say the name is not like usual ones. They had very fragile quartz crystal inside their USB stick, so fragile it can break by just letting it plugged in too long...

I was using said USB stick (it was 100gb~ or so) as a main drive under some low end linux distro. It was fast, but also fast in breaking itself (only worked for 4 months).
I can still see the firmware/see the brand name using lsusb, but nothing else work.
Given that, i learned to distrust every drive or storage brand. completely :D
 
oh
I work on the assumption all storage fails
 
this was bought as an upgrade for some old PCs - my dad had a thinkpad for 13 years
 
12:44 PM
I never had SSDs except that one old 16GB SSD on an old notebook (asus). When i heard back then that they had a clear time when they can break/or stop working (forgot the name of that limit or the reason behind it) i never thought of buying one.

Plus the price vs size range being less beneficial, except for speed compared to HDD kinda made it look meh to me
 
120gb, was about 60 quid
 
well all storage dies
life fast, die... eventually?
 
@JourneymanGeek these days you can get a 1tb drive if you look well enough for that price, maybe 20 bucks
 
yup
this was maybe 5-6 years ago?
 
12:45 PM
@JourneymanGeek yeah
 
Hi @M.A.R.
 
Hi! @M.A.R.
might be tempted to get a NVME drive one of these days, the speed look tempting
 
current set up is a pair of them :D
 
\o/ I'm single, late 30s and living with my parents :D
what else would I spend money on? :D
 
12:49 PM
@JourneymanGeek ikr
@JourneymanGeek except maybe tape? I mean, in the right condition (lead case, etc)
 
tape dies
Even if you carved it on stone, it wears out
EVERYTHING DIES!
 
@JourneymanGeek I mean, yeah, but let's say "less" than HDD or SSD? don't know how much time it would take to deteriorate tbh, but it's def more than drives
@JourneymanGeek if there no wind or water that get on said stone, it will wear out less ;)
 
@NordTheLoftyWizard you need to store it properly sure...
but the point is 2 copies are less likely to die than 1, and 3 less than 2 and so on
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah
 
or you could have what happened to my old dedi and just have the hardware die
 
12:56 PM
the two thing that prevented from getting tapes, even though they can be lot cheaper than drives are:

- mold/dust
- their reader/writer, which have a compatibility hell (different model, etc) and their price (usually around 1k-10k) and harder to find cheap compared to tape
you can easily find 20-100TB tape for very very cheap, especially used...but their reader/writer? much harder, especially if you know which one you need, given there compatibility involved
 
pretty much
and you don't usually need 20 to 100 tb
 
or you could roll your own reader/write to normal VHS tape, with your own algorithm...probably cheaper ;)
@JourneymanGeek but muh redundancy!
 
@NordTheLoftyWizard ... wierdly enough
this was a thing
not that much space
@NordTheLoftyWizard massive array of SD cards?
 
I mean, the algorithm part already kinda exist, eg: what github used for their archiving project, they had a pdf which detailed the process/method they used to store git repo on tape

and for the hardware part well, there is some guide for making your own/salvaging your own reader/writer for VHS tape (some modding community too which could help)
 
@NordTheLoftyWizard I mean
there were multiple commercial products that did that
 
1:00 PM
@JourneymanGeek yeah, but their methods/hardware spec are kinda closed source, unless someone leaked it or reversed it :/
 
4gb at ... 9MB/s?
No idea what would be the benefit other than "I did something in the most bass awkward way"
 
@JourneymanGeek hmm, yeah the speed is a problem...and even if you had a fast enough reader/writer, it could damage the tape i guess, unless you write/read to multiple tape in parallel using multiple read/writer at the same time.
@JourneymanGeek yeah
the last problem would be SOUND, i can already hear it when it's one or two tape, but more and it would be unbearable unless you had a recording closet with sound proof filtering
 
so
Lots of SD cards
then build a little load/unload robot
which amusingly enough is how huge tape libraries work
 
 
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3:59 PM
judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/101072/… is R/A and needs flagging please
 
4:15 PM
german.stackexchange.com/a/63451/24509 is R/A and needs flagging please
 
@DavidPostill I think those can be reported to SmokeDetector with a reporting reason indicating that they're offensive
 
 
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6:24 PM
I always find some hidden gems in tag wikis written by user @random 6-8 years ago
 
 
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7:59 PM
@SonictheCuriouserHedgehog I like to think that if you dig old historic meta posts, you'd find a treasure map written by random
 
 
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9:20 PM
@NordTheLoftyWizard uh, hi
@JourneymanGeek uh, also hi
I have no idea what I was doing eight hours ago but I wasn't really here
I have goldfish memory about pings. I have no idea how I would be able to handle emails when I'm someone less unimportant in later stages of my life
In my defense, a bajillion people were sending me 'happy new year' DMs all over the place, so I couldn't keep track of things
 

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