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4:55 AM

@JourneymanGeek it's gonna come back again

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6:06 AM

@Ollie anti spam bots

@BabaYaga the wings?

@Rob no, it's not automatic anymore, one must change it manually otherwise it will stay with the original info forever. :)

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Look closer at the avatar. 💤

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6:32 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMask the spammer

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8:33 AM

@Rob he changed it manually already

@BabaYaga wasn't he nuked?

name is blackended so can't search, but usually @Journeyman chew those. ;)

Sep 2 at 12:24, by Journeyman Geek

chewing noises

Cause the paperwork for blowing up spammers got a bit too much

Big smile there, nice!

waves an environmental impact statement

@JourneymanGeek huh? What does that mean? lol

Kaboom :D

8:37 AM

Thought it's a single button?

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9:43 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMask if they want they can keep making new ones

Oh god

Life is hell

I was attending 2 classes at a time

10:19 AM

@BabaYaga :(

@BabaYaga there's internal tools

and if its persistant, we always have smokey

11:01 AM

@JourneymanGeek just for curiosity, can it be fooled?

11:19 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Read the message that you hook replied to before answering.

Open source governance: Benevolent dictator or decision by committee?

11:33 AM

I'm starting to veer off from the world...

Feeds

11:46 AM

Ryan Donovan on September 09, 2020

No matter how well-intentioned and free wheeling a project is, at some point, to succeed at scale, decisions need to be made and conflicts need to be resolved. But is a project managed best by a single person with the final say or through building consensus with a committee of several people.

Mithical

^ @ArtOfCode may be of interest for once

12:21 PM

@BabaYaga hmm, fooling spamram, smokey and the community?

You kinda earned it there. Its very XKCD 810

John Dvorak

@Feeds sustainable organic code = DNA?

@Feeds Bounding the speed of `spooky action at a distance'.

John Dvorak

12:43 PM

@Rob No measurement, no problem. I'm going with an universal wavefunction for now.

If they do find violations of QM, I'm all ears, however ... and I do expect them to pop up eventually

Now I'm wondering if quantum indeterminacy can be reproduced from an asynchronous cellular automaton without losing any of the conservation laws.

._.

John Dvorak

Or, even better, a regular CA

1:06 PM

@JohnDvorak My cryptic (?) reply to Feeds was in reference to: the article's subject (who - which company - is it about), the mention of BDFL, and the lack of mention of the latest flareup.

@MetaAndrewT. bring your soul down!

;)

looks like a good name for a new music genre: soul down

Maybe this explains why SO lacked some HTML features for so long: I guess I am an HTML neanderthal. (J. Atwood, Oct, 2009)

1:22 PM

That's what I did... writing own HTML, JS, and CSS without using "bootstrap" thingy...

WUT? What were you thinking? Performance is a feature?

Because I didn't know how to use bootstrap with notepad :/

It's a simple static informational page though, so I thought I didn't need ASP.NET for this

@rene 11 years later there's some movement: meta.stackexchange.com/q/346405/282094

yeah, that is how I found the Atwood quote

1:40 PM

Before that time, maybe 20 years earlier, I used to type HTML in by hand, then WYSIWYG editors came along; that was just so much faster for the few problems it caused and the excellent cross-browser compatibility it provided.

WYSIWYG... why did I remember Microsoft FrontPage?

(the '97 one)

user400654

2:06 PM

because it was the best one

That's BackPage now, discontinued 17 years ago, here's the current roundup: websitebuilderexpert.com/website-builders/best/free - that list seems to be mostly agreed with by a few other reviewers.

Almost every DIY website hosting company had their own editor, an hour or two later and you could click the [Publish] button and you'd be up and running. The only reason it took 'so long' was to ensure that your website didn't look like someone else's.

@user400654 I wonder whatever happened to dreamweaver...

It's #7 on this list - so, not so good.

user400654

2:21 PM

@JourneymanGeek it's still sitting on my shelf

in it's original box

scroll

@user400654 I guess you also liked Visual InterDev

user400654

2:42 PM

What's that

It was for .. things with what we now call Classic ASP. But you better used Notepad (no ++) if you wanted to be productive

3:39 PM

@doppelgreener Want to "laugh"? Just realized after looking at the video again (and for some reason thinking I had that conversation with Ash instead of you and Think) that some of those are actually present..... in the Pocket Camp mobile game. Dialogue fast forward, skip cutscenes, pocket item counter... they exist in the mobile version.

3:54 PM

(and to be fair, the mobile game event allows you to sell stuff to other people. But you know, it is simpler to do since the game is always online. And they still had that limited to fruits/fish and such since allowing players to exchange/sell furniture would go against their interest to sell those for real money)

@rene it was called Classic ASP in the beginning too. ;)

It was a classic from the start

@rene and ASP

Too bad they missed the "A" in the middle so it was so slow.

@MetaAndrewT. Did you mean SharePoint Designer?

Actively Slow Pages

3:57 PM

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе don't tell me there is also Visual Sharepoint InterDev?

SharePoint evolved from projects codenamed "Office Server" and "Tahoe" during the Office XP development cycle.

"Office Server" evolved out of the FrontPage and Office Server Extensions and "Team Pages". It targeted simple, bottom-up collaboration.

"Tahoe", built on shared technology with Exchange and the “Digital Dashboard”, targeted top-down portals, search and document management. The searching and indexing capabilities of SharePoint came from the "Tahoe" feature set. The search and indexing features were a combination of the index and crawling features from the Microsoft Site Server fa…

taken from wikipedia.

Basically, SharePoint Designer is the phoenix that was meant do rise from the ashes of FrontPage.

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе uhhhhh Tahoe, that codename rings a bell.

But something went wrong, and we ended up with a chicken instead.

lol

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе behold. A man

4:09 PM

There is a theory that O'Reilly covers actually follow a secret pattern. The animals chosen are not random.

If you ever had the opportunity to enter a chicken pen.... you will know that you have to look very carefully where you walk.