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@Rubiksmoose There's a word for that? Googling seems to suggest even English language has politeness registers. What would make them explicit vs implicit?
@Tinkeringbell Codified was actually a better choice of a word I think. I was under the impression that English doesn't codify them. For example in Japanese, (a language I'm learning) it seems much more explicit and identifiable as to how polite something is. But maybe I'm just too used to it in English?
@Tinkeringbell Definitely true for how I'm learning Japanese. At least the stuffy and polite. We are explicitly starting in the more polite than casual speech because it is safer to use in general and I guess easier to build off to learn the other stuff I guess. Good for talking to coworkers (At work) and those above you. Not so appropriate for talking to friends or younger relatives.
Yeah I'm not sure that it was explicitly spelled out that way, but that's what I understand from my teacher anyways. And it does seem to make a bit of sense. I'd rather get in trouble for being too polite than too informal lol
It can be! And it's one of the reasons Japanese doesn't really have swear words. Because there are plenty of tool in the language already to insult without explicitly saying something bad with special "bad" words.
English certainly has different registers but they aren't explicitly marked by grammatical forms like they are in languages like Japanese or Korean. OTOH, English words with Latin or French roots tend to be more formal than their Anglo-Saxon synonyms, but you need to have some awareness of the etymology to recognise that stuff, it's not completely obvious just from the forms of the words.
@Rubiksmoose Exactly that. I find that also makes them more effective, especially if you have another person that's aware you're putting this much effort into an insult!
@Tinkeringbell In English (& probably many other languages), the rules for casual speech tend to be more complex and harder to codify than those of more formal speech, so its hard to learn them correctly without immersion. Also, casual speech tends to change faster and be more geographically localised than formal speech. So it's a lot easier to create textbooks etc for formal speech.
@PM2Ring Sure. But I don't think things like 'can't' and 'should've' have changed much since I was in school! And we'd get points deducted if we used it in our exercises and the exercise wasn't specifically about using these types of contractions.
Some of the short stories we read in high school French had some slang words & phrases that our teacher explained to us. But he also said that slang changes quickly, and if we used some of those terms today we'd sound old-fashioned.
@Tinkeringbell Oh, ok. Sure, "cannot" sounds more formal than "can't", but use of "can't" doesn't automatically make a sentence informal. IMHO, only very formal English avoids those contractions, and English without some contractions feels rather artificial to me. OTOH, some non-native speakers do weird things, like contracting "have" when it's the main verb, not an auxiliary. That feels pretty weird.
@PM2Ring There's still a distinction between written and spoken English when it comes to contractions. I'd only use them in very informal writing, like here. Or at least most of them. I can't see me writing "I've always thought" in a scientific paper, for example.
Heh. Linguistically speaking, this place is fascinating. We're writing, but we're writing what we'd say. So it's a weird mix of written and spoken English.
@Rubiksmoose Not necessarily. For example: Gaijin 外人 simply means outsider. It's very blurry as to whether it's polite or not; some usages may well have polite intent, others not so much.
@terdon Fair enough. I don't totally avoid contractions in my formal writing, but if I'm polishing a piece and want to adjust the formality level of a section, adding or removing contractions is an easy trick. ;) I like to write in a moderately formal way, but I like to inject some less formal material from time to time. Eg, a few messages back I deliberately said "stuff", a good old Anglo-Saxon word, rather than a more Latinate word like "material".
Chat is its own thing, and I agree it's more like a transcription of spoken language than "traditional" written language. However, I don't like it when language gets too sloppy in a chat room, especially if the room has a sizeable number of non-native speakers using the chat whose English skills aren't great. Sloppy language makes misunderstandings more likely, and people who are constantly exposed to sloppy language are likely to pick up those bad habits.
I like urban dictionary, even terdon's innit is actually specifically mentioned there :) Don't know how big the grain of salt needs to be, but no matter how the "facts" are written it tends to sound very believable.
@Gimby There's still a whole bunch of things that are NSFW, even at home! My Switch and crochet projects are on my desk, but they are specifically NSFW during work hours at said desk :P
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When you are making any proposal specific for a site, how do you go about asking for the feedback of the community (of that site)? The context of this question is ongoing discussion in Mathematics about the creation of a possible list of words (or phrases) that will filter questions out of the HNQ list. Very recently, I tried to make a meta post which was intended to be a poll.
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But it looks like that the community in MSE doesn't really like that. Maybe that's because I am too experience regarding it. So I am wondering what is the optimal method for doing this?
@user170039 we have some very bad experiences with "filters" so anything you frame in that context might get a bad reception. Also: How bad is the HNQ list from a math.se perspective? As in: does it go wrong that often that no human can control what is happening and we need a system in place to control the negative outcome.
Essentially, preemptively preventing questions that are likely non-exemplary from hitting the HNQ list. The mods are... kinda tired of having to remove them manually.
@user170039 To answer the root of your question (apologies if this is too basic) but to try to get a site consensus, the local site meta is the place to do that.
This post is to accompany:
Which words (if any) in the title of a question should prevent inclusion in the HNQ list?
If you want to discuss the merits of a word please create an answer for it yet write up your thoughts as a comment there. The answer post should be neutral (see the template at t...
@Rubiksmoose I already tried to do that (I can include the meta post if you wish) by making a poll request. That's how we would get a count on the people who are agreeing/disagreeing with the proposal itself (and not on whether certain words could be included in the list or not). I believe that agreeing on whether the community needs such a list is more important.
In a recent post Autofilters for Hot Network Questions the possibility was raised to created a list of words which when contained in a title of a question would prevent the question from being included in the HNQ list. The question can still exist on the site, only inclusion in HNQ list is preven...
The SE software allows us to request certain regular expressions be automatically excluded from the Hot Network Questions.
I was asked by the CMs to make this post on the meta, and include the list. This way the community can express agreement or disagreement, as well as suggest improvements.
L...
Short Version
The purpose of this post is to have a vote count of the community support/opposition of the recent HNQ block list proposal. If you don't want to read the long version of the post then please go directly to Aim of this post and vote accordingly.
Long Version
In the last couple of ...
The acronym HNQ has been mentioned a lot recently. Regarding Hot Network Questions (HNQ), there was a question on Meta Stack Exchange:
What is the Goal of "Hot Network Questions"?
In the context of mathematics, I think the goal may be different. Hence my question:
What is the goal of “Hot ...
I should probably do something like score all words in titles overall and then have some statistical function to show which words are significant for HNQ. Have a higher probability or so.
@ymb1 I have to go through that post again, and still some more bug fixes to go, as well as second round of releases for question following. I'll get to it eventually. Something else to do first (Licensing). No need to post a separate question
@YaakovEllis Speaking of licensing, how is this going? It's tagged as planned, i.e. passed review and slated to get built, so what's the technical holdup?
The SE software allows us to request certain regular expressions be automatically excluded from the Hot Network Questions.
I was asked by the CMs to make this post on the meta, and include the list. This way the community can express agreement or disagreement, as well as suggest improvements.
L...
The acronym HNQ has been mentioned a lot recently. Regarding Hot Network Questions (HNQ), there was a question on Meta Stack Exchange:
What is the Goal of "Hot Network Questions"?
In the context of mathematics, I think the goal may be different. Hence my question:
What is the goal of “Hot ...
