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5:53 AM

@Feeds no hover text?

Alex

6:14 AM

in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 12 mins ago, by Alex

@Jenayah Is it just me, or does this one not have a hover-text explanation?

Mithical

7:05 AM

→ 10 messages moved to Chimney

Magisch

7:35 AM

@AndrasDeak melancholic, that was when george still had his diamond

8:11 AM

@AndrasDeak I think nobody would object too much if the post would be edited to include that text along with a link to support the claim that such a vulnerability exists

maybe there could be a better feature but I think just editing the post should be fine for this important purpose

No, commenting on votes is not "good etiquette". It's a bad idea and explicitly discouraged. It's perfectly fine to comment on the post qualities if one wants, but no need to reference voting at all. Commenting is always optional and secondary. — yivi 2 mins ago

I thought when you downvote a post a message appears saying "maybe leave a comment explaining the downvote" but maybe I misremembered or it's mandela effect?

I tried downvoting formatting sandbox just now, no messages appear

maybe this used to be a thing but no longer is

can't find where it's "explicitly discouraged"

8:28 AM

look harder

I don't think it is explicitly discouraged in the site help, you will mostly find that strong advice in meta questions. Many, many meta questions.

A: Encouraging people to explain downvotes

533

The comments are there for people who want to explain their downvotes. The only thing I can think of is an AJAX <div> reminder for users when they cast downvotes: Please consider adding a comment if you think this post can be improved. After the first downvote, we can't say we didn't rem...

I'm not sure what to think

getting mixed signals :s

That's a post which again makes the mistake of asking to explain downvotes, and the implemented solution (which I have never seen) is to add a suggestion box to explain what to improve. Big difference.

2

Stop Being Evil

Question about declined flags

Enough of them can get you a flag warning, but one of the reasons your flags can be declined is because the issue went away. That seems unnecessarily punitive and arbitrary

@Alex it's absent from the comic itself for whatever reason, usually they always have one

9:28 AM

@user1306322 That's nitpicking

Maybe a necessary nitpick though

What they mean is simply to start your criticism of an answer with "this answer is wrong", not "I downvoted ur face because . . ."

"This answer is only applicable to bovine excrement."

(bovine excrement can be a pretty valuable resource of course...)

10:27 AM

@Gimby great fuel, fertilizer...

insect lure

oh oh, first Corona-related death in the Netherlands. Of an 86 year old man of course. Something tells me the craziness is about to go into ludicrous speed.

correlation?

None, just Friday-chitter-chatter.

Andras Deak

10:59 AM

@user1306322 conflicts with author's intent. Plus often it's not vulnerable, merely a terrible anti-pattern.

"you should not use this answer because despite fifty upvotes it's crap" is not something you can add in a preamble

mw509

11:32 AM

@Feeds Licking eyeballs?

11:42 AM

@mw509 worse. No alt text

ew

Magisch

12:04 PM

@Gimby 500 some new cases here I think?

Shree

NOVEL CORONAVIRUS MAP

@Magisch Since yesterday?

I'm starting to think there's a very real possibility the virus will leave Vatican without any population.

Magisch

@Gimby I think

but it could just be massively ramped up testing

in areas where it's been confirmed they're testing literally everyone with a cold now

that doesn't sound possible

djsmiley2k TMW

12:18 PM

Anyone used XLOOKUP in excel yet? I'm having issues and they're rather weird....

or it's time to ask a question on superuser...

=XLOOKUP(FIND_THIS,IN_THIS,RETURN_THESE)

ah ignore me

I don't have XLOOKUP yet

12:32 PM

@SmokeDetector but love , it was edited in the grace period

12:48 PM

@JohnDvorak indeed, but I think Magisch means that everyone is tested who reports themselves to have flu symptoms. The same thing is done in the NL now and the number of known cases doubled yesterday because of it.

2:28 PM

@JourneymanGeek I'm squinting but your avatar doesn't turn into a butterfly

Wait, I'm starting to see things

The Overflow #12: Plain text

If you look really hard... You will see a dog in a hat

Feeds

3:07 PM

Ryan Donovan on March 06, 2020

Welcome to ISSUE #12 of The Overflow, a newsletter by developers, for developers, written and curated by the Stack Overflow team and Cassidy Williams of React Training. You can read more about it here. In this week’s newsletter, we’re seeing what’s up with Blazor, wondering if it’s legal to crack MD5 hashes, and making the most of our JavaScript console.

terdon

@Feeds I see the CSS is still broken and there's no padding...

@JNat ^^ This was reported to Adam last week? Two weeks ago? But whoever he told doesn't seem to have managed to fix it in time for the next one. See how there's no padding at all and how each section is highlighted when you hover it. I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be that way :)

An old fashioned table layout, how retro :) At least it'll work on IE6.

user400654

4:15 PM

zzz

@terdon Adam passed it along; not sure if they didn't fix it yet, or if they tried and it didn't work :P will follow-up

terdon

@JNat Yeah, I'm sure he did. And it's easy to miss that sort of bug. It's just a bit, well, embarrassing to have two marketing documents released with bad formatting :)

yup, I'm pinging people right now

djsmiley2k TMW

4:52 PM

@terdon holy cow that looks broken.

terdon

@djsmiley2kTMW yeah...

Andras Deak

you almost got me to click...

5:08 PM

@ShadowWizardisEarForYou gone

@terdon it sounds like a table I'd draw in Word on 4 a.m.

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog no posts at all; cleared their "about me"

Clicks It looks like it too o.o

@ShadowWizardisEarForYou gone

Western gunshot music from Morricone

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

5:13 PM

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone

@ShadowWizardisEarForYou gone

@rene gone

yesterday, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@JNat Cross-site spammer: https://stackexchange.com/users/17904503/rusdy-dsilva

@JNat It seems you may have skipped this one

And also:

Feb 29 at 20:24, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Cross-site spammer (on sites you moderate): https://stackexchange.com/users/17875006/quickez-recipes

One of their accounts still exists

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog that was the last one... was actually looking at it as you pinged me

Sorry, since that one was skipped over in the order they were last reported, I thought you skipped it by mistake.

@terdon fixed! :D

πάντα ῥεῖ

5:29 PM

@JNat Respect for so much engagement and enthusiasm on friday ;-)

What you don't see is that I'm actually crying on this end...

xD

:D

🚽

@JNat yay!

6:22 PM

So... about https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/344714/is-a-user-deleted-in-one-stack-exchange-deleted-in-all-of-them...

The comments are no longer visible, but animuson stepped in and edited the post to focus on the original question. I was commenting and asking the OP to do that themself. Should I have just gone ahead and edited it that way? I'm over 2k and do have that ability.

user400654

eh, i wouldn't have

not as a non-mod/staff

Spevacus

Yeah, I figured that a content change that radical is something that should be left to mods/staff or the OP themselves. Plus, I wouldn't have been able to wipe out comments to refocus the question anyway.

user400654

but i'm not comfortable with removing the, uh, more heated/emotional bits from it not being a member with authority

@Spevacus I close voted as unclear. I might as well have dupe voted against the FAQ but it looked like they were asking about "deleting" that other user, aka ban / suspend him. So that needed clearing up from the OP. Your comments were fine. I wouldn't have touched it.

At least not by editing.

Spevacus

Mmm. Gotcha. Thanks <3

Looks like the posts that were originally mentioned on Area 51 were deleted as well.

PM 2Ring

6:34 PM

@user1306322 The hovertext is there now. At least, it is on the mobile site (I'm on my phone), which has an explicit clickable "(alt-text)" link. You get to the mobile site by prepending m. to the domain name, eg https://m.xkcd.com/2277/

FWIW, the mobile site doesn't one-box.

That is a plus ...

PM 2Ring

6:51 PM

I suppose so, although it's easy enough to just add some extra text to block one-boxing. Similarly, Wikipedia mobile URLs also don't one-box.

@rene Oneboxes are the best things in teh worldz.

Even when they're being abused to cause a chat bug by quoting a message three hundred times

Or when they get borked showing dictionary examples as different meanings

Or when they don't work, in case of Twitter