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2:57 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Can't tell the two apart:

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7:32 AM

→ 40 messages moved to Chimney

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

8:06 AM

@Ollie it was always different, and by now it's dead. Died of old age, and it's in the same state as the mobile apps: development is never done (for long years), and never will be done. They might fix critical bugs, but at this point I'm not sure about this either.

@Rob sharp

@Mithical it is for me.... didn't think to Google it. :)

Guess I can also write in Hebrew in my profile so only some will understand, not a big deal. :D

@terdon yeah, should have said "written in language which is unknown to me". ;)

But guess even jogsgs dsfosidosdfj asdjaspo wawrmaroa3 sfsofj has some meaning in a new language I can invent.

So.... one can say there's no such thing as Gibberish at all.

Even then it's, at best, an in-joke. Or it could be the rudest message on Earth.

(that said, don't be surprised if you see someone sporting "wawrmaroa3" as their user handle.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@JohnDvorak in-jokes are fine, we do it here all the time. :)

but they should at least relate to ... more than one person

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

I consider adding something about monkeys to my profile, for @Ollie's sake. Thoughts? :D

two, even

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

8:16 AM

Three?

Actually, time for a name change soon, Shadow The Monkey Wizard might fit. ;)

Now that's an in-joke

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Yup

I spend my time here anyway, so why not.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask I mean... creating your own conlang is quite difficult, but go for it :P

That's also quite a bit different from a reference to a famous set of literary works.

And... if you want to put gibberish in your profile that's perfectly fine. It's your profile; put what you want in there.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

9:13 AM

@Mithical exactly. :D

Queenie Goldstein

9:44 AM

@Ollie alive command often gives a response as if it suddenly woke up

ALIVE_MSG = [
'Yup', 'You doubt me?', 'Of course', '... did I miss something?', 'plz send teh coffee',
'Watching this endless list of new questions *never* gets boring', 'Kinda sorta',
'You should totally drop that and use jQuery', r'¯\\_(ツ)\_/¯', '... good question',
]

sdc ALIVE_MSG[2]

@QueenieGoldstein No such command 'alive-msg[2'.

Queenie Goldstein

sdc test_alive()

@QueenieGoldstein No such command 'test-alive'.

Queenie Goldstein

sdc import test/test_chatcommands.py

@QueenieGoldstein No such command 'import'.

Queenie Goldstein

9:50 AM

-_-...

is SmokeDetector a priveleged user?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

10:17 AM

@QueenieGoldstein nope

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

10:32 AM

@Ollie finally saw the bug report. Well, Area51 itself is long dead, but since it's about the top bar, which is a copy&paste of the actual top bar in the real sites, there's a small chance they'll fix the copy, or just paste the whole code again. There's hope! :P

Queenie Goldstein

@ShadowWizardWearingMask How to calculate square root of a matrix

Queenie Goldstein

11:15 AM

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Solved :)

11:45 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Three seems good, it could be a blue tribal like monkey, for a name change you could have ShadowTheTriballMonkeyWizard - and the people who change the suffix of their name to match yours could follow suit.

Queenie Goldstein

@Rob Does this answer your question?

No

Queenie Goldstein

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Your question has answers here

It's spidermonkey^, Ben10 Alien Force

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Ultimate Spidermonkey, Ultimatrix

Journeyman Geek

12:18 PM

→ 4 messages moved to Chimney

1:11 PM

@QueenieGoldstein Too many ayes

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1:45 PM

@Sha @Oll

Princess Charlotte asks Sir David Attenborough if he likes spiders in new video

Journeyman Geek

Y'all have monkeys on the brain.

I like spiders. Unfortunately the only remotely plausible one is the second one. #1 has too few limbs, and #3 has an eye along the median plane.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask For my sake and all of Stack Exchange's, don't add something about monkeys to your profile. It wouldn't be good for morale...or anything really ;)

Even #2 is implausible - there should be a second segment with the majority of organs, and the first one only contains the brain, digestive tube and eyeballs. The size of the first segment can be attributed to mimicry (if it has a reason to mimic tiny gorillas), but the second segment definitely should be visible.

(also, spiders don't have fingers, and claws of this shape wouldn't serve their purpose)

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Area51 didn't die of old age, it died of death.

2

I mean, Area51 itself might be dead, but that piece should be the same for all sites.

sdc abomination ShadowWizardWearingMask

2:04 PM

@Ollie No such command 'abomination'.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Ollie lol

@SmokeDetector Oh??

Wooow

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Ollie only if the avatar will be the trashed picture... Quick way to get suspended... ;)

Post deleted in 19 seconds!

Queenie Goldstein

I have done in 3 seconds...on MSE, I posted a doubt which was instantly resolved by me LOL

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

2:07 PM

@QueenieGoldstein easy! It's Neo^Neo

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Wants to be suspended!

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Maybe!

Queenie Goldstein

Neo Neo?

@Ollie why?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Well some might know I love to be punished... :P

Queenie Goldstein

!!/blame

2:08 PM

@QueenieGoldstein It's Sonic the Masked Werehog's fault.

sdc blame

@Ollie It's John Dvorak's fault.

Queenie Goldstein

You're not guilty

@SmokeDetector It's your fault.

A faulty smoke detector. I should replace it with a nice Kidde.

Queenie Goldstein

The council of judges, Ollie, SDC and Me have decided you be awarded -500 rep

2:09 PM

Erm, no we haven't. Who is giving that reputation?

Queenie Goldstein

Taking*

sdc blame

@Ollie It's Queenie Goldstein's fault.

haa

Queenie Goldstein

sdc unblame

2:11 PM

@QueenieGoldstein No such command 'unblame'.

Queenie Goldstein

sdc command

@QueenieGoldstein No such command 'command'.

Queenie Goldstein

xD

@QueenieGoldstein Oh that's much better. Who are we taking it from, and can I have some of it? ;)

Queenie Goldstein

The convicted, no...you have been charged -1000 for contempt of court by blaming me

2:14 PM

me?

sdc unblame Queenie

@Ollie No such command 'unblame'.

@SmokeDetector I need that command right now

:D

Queenie Goldstein

-100 for hiding/tampering proof

Stop taking reputation from me, Queenie!

-20 for telling me what to do, says Queenie

Queenie Goldstein

You have a lot...I need some

It's easier to gain or sometimes loose reputation on meta SE.

2:19 PM

@QueenieGoldstein Nah, you'll be fine on your own ;)

Queenie Goldstein

?

I meant people usually upvote more/ downvote more on Meta SE

Bizarrely, votes on my questions are greater than votes on my answers.

I meant for you to gain reputation.

Queenie Goldstein

On math SE, it's the reverse...questions stay at +1 with answers reaching +5,+6 etc.

sdc monkeys Shadow

@Ollie No such command 'monkeys'.

Queenie Goldstein

2:23 PM

sdc help

ollie

@QueenieGoldstein I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.

Queenie Goldstein

ollie click on smoke detector

and see commands.py

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/…

!!/live

@Ollie ... did I miss something?

@SmokeDetector Yes, you did. There is a spam seed over at Math SE.

@SmokeDetector Tick...tick...tick...and what comes after tick?

Queenie Goldstein

2:31 PM

sdc scan math.stackexchange.com

@QueenieGoldstein Post 1: That does not look like a valid post URL.

Queenie Goldstein

That's what an imposter would say

And are you an imposter, @SmokeDetector?

Queenie Goldstein

Vote smokedetector

@Ollie I was doing tasks in electrical, it's not me.

7

2:34 PM

No!

;)

Queenie Goldstein

Ohh, then tell where were you!

Where was I?

Err

Here?

Queenie Goldstein

Nein, es ist falsch

@QueenieGoldstein nein.

Queenie Goldstein

oops

2:40 PM

@SmokeDetector How do we know that?

Queenie Goldstein

I was in the vent checking on SDC

:thonk:

:thunk:

Queenie Goldstein

:think:

2:53 PM

:thank:

How would you "add things to your existing SE user style"?

I came across the term here, and I'd like to try it, because I want my scroll buttons back.

Erwin Alberto has left SO

Nooo!

Damn computer...

(But still seems to have the staff flag.)

@Mithical erf. Not familiar with him

@Mithical just cause he announced it dosen't mean offboarding is done already

He said "today is my last day" October 2nd

3:02 PM

I'm not familiar with him either.

His account still says "Keeping a low profile".

I'm only familiar with him because of Twitter, admittedly

Do you have to download something for the "SE user style", or is it in the preferences?

huh?

@Mithical chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/8578757#8578757

oh, a userscript

they're talking about an existing userscript that locally changes the appearance for them

3:07 PM

Where is it?

Is it publicly available?

probably on their device

Tampermonkey, @ShadowWizardWearingMask

@Ollie lol. I tend to end up interacting with community and dev folks a fair bit cause of meta

Not actually modding stuff

4:02 PM

Nice click bait title :)

5

Q: Freeing stiff nipples?

I've got a nice used rear wheel that's slightly out of true. Simple fix is true it up. But the nipples are stuck to the spokes and won't turn freely. I managed to get one spoke to do two full twists and still it wouldn't release. The spokes are round profile, so there's no good way to hold them...

spokes wheel-truing rust nipples

Has hit HNQ ...

Queenie Goldstein

sdc scan bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/72503

@QueenieGoldstein Post 1: This does not look like spam

Queenie Goldstein

xD nice clickbait tho

This wouldn't have been allowed a year ago

@JohnDvorak Why not? It is not a rude expression when referring to bicycles.

A spoke nipple holds a bicycle wheel's rim to each spoke. The spoke nipple is a headed cylinder with threading on the inside through part of its length (there is an unthreaded lead-in nearest the "flats"). Traditionally, the nipples fit in holes in the rim, so that the head of the nipple is on the outermost part of the rim, while the other end of the nipple points inwards towards the hub. Many different types of nipples are now available, including internal nipples that sit entirely within the rim and can only be adjusted by removing the tire, as well as externally threaded nipples that thread...

4:15 PM

People have been de-hnq'd for less

(thanks for the link though; didn't trust Wiktionary not to include pictures

@DavidPostill Those are a regular on automotive too, with Q&A being T&A all the way.

Definition of nipple

1 : the protuberance of a mammary gland upon which in the female the lactiferous ducts open and from which milk is drawn
2a : an artificial teat through which a bottle-fed infant nurses
b : a device with an orifice through which the discharge of a liquid can be regulated
3a : a protuberance resembling or suggesting the nipple of a breast
b : a small projection through which oil or grease is injected into machinery
4 : a pipe coupling consisting of a short piece of threaded tubing

None of those are actually rude

Anybody who thinks it is needs to get a life

:D

Including all of MPAA?

There is also gland, commonly used in hydraulics.

4:21 PM

Sure

I didn't know that one either, thanks @Rob

I don't think we can mention the human counterpart.

haven't we already?

Also, there are plenty of glands, not just those related to nipples

I doubt it, not in anything that wasn't deleted or moved.

> United States. Patent Office - 1906

which openings agrees with the axial center of the nipple for regulation of which is made eccentric to the axial center of the Bunsen tube , capping the supply of gas by the eccentric relation of one opening to the ...

@Rob biology.stackexchange.com/search?q=nipple

4:25 PM

Wrong end.

Read that link.

@Rob ?

6 mins ago, by Rob

There is also gland, commonly used in hydraulics.

@Rob biology.stackexchange.com/search?q=gland

If any part of that is confusing there's nothing I can assist you with.

I'm not sure exactly what phrase you are referring to that would be "deleted or moved."

I'm not confused, but you seem to be ...

4:43 PM

\o/

Things get only as awkward as people make em

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

5:36 PM

@DavidPostill confusion is in the eyes of the confused. </smart>

:D

@DavidPostill thanks, long time since I read this (warning: NSFW words) - fun reading. Think I considered to post answer, but couldn't find official confirmation to my assumptions, so gave up on it. :D

y'all the gutter is thataway :D

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

looking that way

seeing @rene

looking the other way

seeing @Ollie

blurs

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Oh no! @rene disappeared!

gets the trebuchet...

right, just take a seat, and we'll send you on your way. We might totally miss the gutter, and you might land in a sewer. NO REFUNDS.

5:45 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Nobody knows why (yet). There are ongoing studies ...

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@DavidPostill I wonder how the recruit people to the study. ;)

Maybe it's just a bug, overlook while developing the human body.

posting in Heaven Meta

!!/alive or dead?

@ShadowWizardWearingMask ... did I miss something?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@SmokeDetector yes, @Queen is here!

Queenie Goldstein

6:07 PM

How does @Queen work....? @Shadow will work too?

@QueenieGoldstein a subset of the name would work, I seem to think 3-4 chars as long as there's no overlap?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@QueenieGoldstein yup. That's a ping. Minimum is three first letters of the name, so @Que will ping but @Qu won't ping you. The big difference is that "short form" works only 48 hours after the user was last in the room, e.g. @Queen won't ping you if you left the room over 48 hours ago, while the full @QueenieGoldstein form works for a week, as long as the name is in the auto complete list.

@Aibobot hmm.... let's check.

@The ping should ping the ping.

@TheLittleNaruto did the above ping you? ^

No that's not The Little.

That's a Rob.

🔬

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

6:22 PM

Zoom in didn't reveal what it is.... no choice but Google...

Microscope! Fits, needs a microscope to see what it is. :D

Go ogle

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Ome gle?

Queenie Goldstein

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Sometimes I have received chat notifications 12 hours later even though I was active

I did not get the ping of the above (big) message

but the small one worked

And what if people have common names

there can exist only 26\choose3 such combinations

because...why would someone keep there name @aaa

2600 letter combinations...there are more than 2.6k users on math Meta SE alone

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@QueenieGoldstein what do you mean? If you don't dismiss the chat ping, it will become inbox notification after 15 minutes. If not, it's a bug.

@QueenieGoldstein what big message?

Queenie Goldstein

Inbox notificati0on failed i suppose

@ShadowWizardWearingMask this one (big message)

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

6:31 PM

@QueenieGoldstein this one pinged for sure. You didn't get inbox notification because you dismissed the ping by posting.

You can opt in to "quick chat notifications", forgot where exactly though.

Then ping will reach the inbox within a minute or so.

Queenie Goldstein

I receive Aibobot's ping, but not the follow up pings in your message

probably multiple pings created such a problem

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@QueenieGoldstein his pings came before, probably over 15 minutes.

You have "prefs" tab in the chat profile, with "Quicker Notifications" section in there.

@QueenieGoldstein nah... I got 100 inbox items for 100 chat messages in a row, in the past, aka ping attack. ;)

Queenie Goldstein

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Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

No worry, my revenge was 200 pings/inbox items. :D

Queenie Goldstein

@ShadowWizardWearingMask LOL

I have received an all time high of 9 so far xD

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

6:36 PM

And it was served cold, quite a few days after the attack. ;)

@QueenieGoldstein if you want, can arrange you 20 tomorrow. Just say the word. ;)

Queenie Goldstein

You could have typed only 100 messages and sdc would have helped

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@QueenieGoldstein nah, I don't cheat. :D

Queenie Goldstein

sdc coffee @ShadowWizardWearingMask

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Some in Den used scripts.

@QueenieGoldstein @ borks the command.

Queenie Goldstein

haha nicee

sdc coffee \@ShadowWizardWearingMask

6:37 PM

@QueenieGoldstein No such command 'coffe'.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Zoe used scripts in the beginning. You know her?

@QueenieGoldstein brews a cup of Latte for @ShadowWizardWearingMask

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

yay!

Queenie Goldstein

Nope

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@QueenieGoldstein well yes, every time you post it auto clears all pending pings.

Supper time, cya!

Queenie Goldstein

6:38 PM

I am not talking about pings...

see the scroll bar

@ShadowWizardWearingMask it's 12;00am for me lol

Ta! (~Ollie)

7:05 PM

@QueenieGoldstein +10 for that ;)

Is that the message with the most stars?

@DavidPostill I've seen far better (worse, depends how you look at it) click bait.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask How could you have seen me? I was carrying my invisibility monkey.

7:23 PM

@Ollie Ever? Definitely not

Of the week @Mithical

Probably

At a quick glance, it looks like this is the message with the most stars in the Tavern in relatively recent history

Takes hat off to @Mithical.

And it's a bowler hat with a 1.9-ft brim, so watch out.

8:04 PM

Are close-vote reviewers supposed to be able to see if the post is deleted?

Here.

I can see the post is deleted.

If I go to the link, it's gone.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

8:35 PM

@Ollie True Seeing spell

2 hours later…

10:56 PM

Shadow's highly sophisticated computer program called Monkey Spell.

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