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A: Community♦ user edit: How does it know what to edit?

@canon wouldn't help on MSO

@Marshmallow funny thing is I don't have an issue with the core idea behind the question. That example though....

Meta Andrew T.

1:57 AM

sleepy times @_@

Stormblessed

5:12 AM

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Unfortunately, it is not AI, but indentured digital sharecroppers :) An upcoming new functionality that allows anyone to edit, then high-rep users to approve, was exposed briefly, and your answer was one of the lucky winners. https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/75377/diff-is-hard-lets-go-s...

What's the deleted link about?

5:42 AM

@Stormblessed I'm too lazy to crop it, and resizing would make it unreadable so... i.imgur.com/4QRHmeY.png there you go

Q: Why are the sidebar stats for a question now under the title?

6:21 AM

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Very recently, past few minutes or so?, a new build was pushed out that changed the location of a question's stats from the top of the sidebar content to underneath the title. I can't exactly put my finger on why this change feels odd. Perhaps it is because statistical information like that be...

And here I thought there were more ghosts in my computer.

Nog Shine

@forest Ghosts in the forest?

Now you're making me think of Forest of the Dead from Doctor Who. :P

"Hey! Who turned out the lights?"

Say I just noticed... if I upload an image via the chat "upload" button... Why isn't it HTTPS?

Tinkeringbell

6:37 AM

@forest Re: your comment there, there's a post by Monica about accessibility. If there's specific concerns with regards to dyslexia, perhaps it's better to drop those there

They aren't going to revert it just because it makes the site less usable for people with certain disabilities.

John Dvorak

I thought they prided themselves for their accessibility?

lol I wish

Accessibility has a very specific meaning in corporate-speak.

The obvious meaning (ease of use for people with disabilities, support for a wide variety of platforms, etc.) isn't always what is meant. Though at least screen readers (mostly) work.

@AaronHall hey, that is my humor ;)

chewing noises

uhm.

@forest I'm dyslexic. I don't have any issues with it.

6:51 AM

Lucky

If you actually think someone with some disability will have problems, being specific is good

My answer on the related feature request goes into more detail.

In particular about how it can be a problem even for non-dyslexic people.

Actually it might solve my "Wait, when did I answer this? Damn, ninjaed by past me"

@forest Which is totally fine ... for non dyslexic people

I occationally help folks set up their systems for dyslexia (Some fonts that are not 'specifically' for dyslexics work well, we prefer bigger fonts sometimes and so on...)

Comic Sans actually works very well.

As much fun as it may be to laugh at that font...

Actually that's a common default font

There's also a few (slightly ugly) dyslexic friendly fonts

6:53 AM

OpenBSD actually documents their projects in Comic Sans. :P

The Adobe Source family accidentally ends up working well -

the critical thing to remember is you don't want to design things so they can mirror or look like other things.

So b and d for example

Which is a problem since a lot of "pretty" fonts try to maximize symmetry.

Yup

And honestly ? Its not obvious even if you're dyslexic.

You're like "I just swap letters around"

and the underlying stuff's... wierd

There are a range of severities for dyslexia.

Hence why "It could be hard for dyslexics" is unhelpful

it needs to be specific

6:57 AM

Like I said, I was specific in my answer on the related FR.

The gist is that us humans (dyslexics in particular) are better at processing information delimited horizontally rather than vertically. Newline > a bit of horizontal whitespace.

uhm. I'm missing it - which FR?

27 votes and counting.

I shouldn't link my answers in here anymore if I don't want automatic downvotes. >_>

I'll make a mental note of that.

Ah. uhm. Its not the same block for me. I personally don't have any issues with the answer as written

fixed

The idea that people are better with horizontally presented information is not new.

It's an old and established psychological phenomenon.

That works for me

7:05 AM

It's actually a little more complicated than that, but that's the general idea. We tend to batch things in one horizontal plane together and process them as one, so splitting things horizontally allows us to conceptualize what we are seeing much more easily.

But that's also more general

Wow that didn't render correctly.

I thought four spaces triggered <pre>?

lol

Guess what?

.... markdown here its its own dialect

ouch

ONE MOMENT

7:08 AM

I know that backticks work, but not for multiple lines.

Cause
this
is
why
we

cannot have nice things

That... doesn't really tell me what markup I need to use. :P

it is a secret

sniggers in animated gifs

Just make a screenshot and upload that

7:10 AM

I think that gif gave me aids.

basically you hit shift enter to get a new line in.

Yeah that I know.

then once you more than one line, you get a fixed font button

foo
bar

oh huh

I could have sworn someone told me about this before.

\o/

7:12 AM

Now we just have to make the chat work in elinks...

@forest that would be nice

Interestingly, the main site used to work in elinks.

It still sorta works, but it's gotten far worse in the last few years.

@forest at time you deemed that knowledge as not important so your brain didn't register it. Do learn from it that everything we tell you is important. So, back to the flat Earth ...

@forest one of the SREs had a hobby project to make SE text readable...

@rene Actually I think it was the excessive ambien.

7:14 AM

valid excuse