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user310756

12:13 AM

@SagarV yes true

user315433

12:31 AM

"German Speaking Sales Executive" job ad was replaced by Sales Executive, Vertriebsmitarbeiter/in. In German ... but it ends with "Lebensläufe bitte in englischer Sprache einreichen!"

user310756

1:34 AM

@Telkitty ~~don't forget to bring blueprints for plan to overthrow network~~ look forward to meeting you today :D

user310756

~~plot to take over network thickens~~ did I just think that out loud?

user202362

2:24 AM

battling keystore atm ... android keystore is as annoying as ios's

Inc.

Oh, election on SO

user310756

@Telkitty tell me about it O>O

user310756

@Telkitty do you need some more time before meeting or would a break be good?

Inc.

No more voting score tracker from Jason?

user310756

@Inc. there's some trackers pinned in the election room chat

Inc.

2:30 AM

@YvetteColomb thanks!

user310756

in 2017 Stack Overflow Moderator Election Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, 7 hours ago, by Undo

Election tools quick links: josliber's statistics visualizer, my primary vote tracker.

user310756

@Inc. yw :)

user202362

@YvetteColomb I am good, keystore issue can be solved later ... recurring issue ...

user310756

@Telkitty ok I'm leaving soon (won't text you) see you at 1 :D excited

user310756

@Alex it's in charcoal

user310756

2:34 AM

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Double Clicking JAR file does not open Command Prompt by user8360818 on stackoverflow.com

user310756

4:47 AM

@Telkitty awesome to meet you!!

user310756

@Telkitty this is what I was talking about

user202362

5:14 AM

@YvetteColomb Great to see you too, looking forward to meet you pet horses next week :)

TGMCians

5:31 AM

o/

Inc.

Just happened

:)

user310756

@Telkitty yes :)

user310756

@Inc. horsesome :)

rene

6:24 AM

→ 25 messages moved to Chimney

user315433

6:49 AM

1000 point gap between #2 and #3 in the primary, I think this election is over.

rene

@Alex but will the two candidates that are now on spot 11 and 12 make a chance to close the gap?

user315433

Surprised to see the last place, maybe Tiny's meta presence was considered too intense by some?

Inc.

Same thought... on both statements

Bhargav Rao

7:06 AM

So Andy will finally join the SO mod team

We can edit the election page to "1900 flags per day" ;)

Journeyman Geek

.... vera impressive candidate scores on some of these folks

Bhargav Rao

Except Yvette, the top 9 are all either 39 or 40

Journeyman Geek

yup

Sagar V

7:25 AM

@rene how the SO only- read only prevent kenny from participating in MSE chat rooms?

Sagar V

7:43 AM

Browsing on a library and found this.

rene

8:47 AM

@SagarV I have no idea but it made a great joke...

Sagar V

the first star for the joke is from me but I wonder how the SO readonly affect kenny.

anyway he is very hungry now. ate lot of things and still continue eating

rene

@SagarV the major problem was the websocket being borked and given that their was a connection pool exhaustion it could well be that before they had to go read-only the system forcibly killed websockets to get some of the pressure of those connections. But this is all speculation and I don't need to know how it works.

user310756

@BhargavRao that's because I'm awesome and my review stats are better than most of the candidates

Bhargav Rao

:)

user310756

ok I'll go and answer some bounty questions. I have 7 days to get 6360 rep point runs off with cape

Sagar V

8:59 AM

@YvetteColomb 6360 in 7 days? lol

rene

@Alex so obviously you need meta presence but you shouldn't go to hard against the establishment. I'm going over my meta profile to clean-up the controversial stuff ... just in case ...

Bhargav Rao

@YvetteColomb Hey, I never said anything about you not having rep. I'm sorry if my message came across as such.

user310756

@SagarV dons superwoman cape and flies across the night sky - hits aeroplane

user310756

@BhargavRao no, that's why my score is low - you didn't offend me, you never could :D

rene

preps popcorn in case @BhargavRao takes the opportunity to offend Yvette

Bhargav Rao

9:03 AM

Nopes, tis been a hard day at work today. So, not able to grasp the opportunity. :(

rene

puts popcorn back :(

Bhargav Rao

Get it out tomo. :p

Bart

grabs and eats rene's popcorn

user310756

@Bart sits next to Bart and shares popcorn

Bart

\o/

user310756

9:06 AM

anyone got any diet coke? all this popcorn and butter is fattening?

user310756

@Bart I love how you're Cody's sock, or is he yours?

user310756

I actually think you'd make a good SO mod @Bart

Bart

Maybe I've already nominated myself. Who knows.

rene

Smitting stick moderation might become a thing

user310756

Maybe you nominated your sock lol

user310756

9:11 AM

smiling stick?

Bart

9:21 AM

Smiting stick

user310756

@Bart I think @rene is thinking of a stick that acts like cupid's arrows and caused people to become smitten :D

Bart

Rene is a romantic like that

user310756

well he is a flower ;)

user310756

flowers and chocolates - aren't they considered the staples of romance?

user202362

9:51 AM

A good romance should be between a bowl of delicious food and a hungry tummy

SmokeDetector

10:03 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: How to transfer contact from android mobile(with broken screen) to my laptop by Crystal Wang on android.SE

user310756

@Telkitty mm yes

Shadow Wizard

@ShadowWizard with my undying death-defying love for you... oh, sorry, I slipped and fell back into the 80s there.... sparkling light, flowers and pearls and pretty girls - dammit, there goes my day, lost to an ear-worm... — Marc Gravell ♦ 3 mins ago

lolz

@Telkitty why bowl? I prefer plate.

@Bart who is Rene?

Is Rene friend of bart?

Inc.

10:19 AM

Whoa, Tiny Giant has achieved.. 11th place

user310756

@Inc. are you surprised?

Inc.

Not so surprised compared to 12th place, but still surprised nonetheless

user310756

I should have asked, what place were you expecting?

Inc.

8th or above, but then, I'm not that active on MSO nowadays (no daily browsing)

user310756

ah k

Bart

10:24 AM

@ShadowWizard a nice big bowl of beef and basil noodles, nasi goreng, or ... yeah, gimme a bowl.

Shadow Wizard

@Inc. how come? Most people vote (at least in the Primary phase) based on candidate score, especially reputation. Those with less than 20k reputation don't have a chance, IMO.

It's not fair, it's wrong, but that's just how it is.

user310756

@ShadowWizard well thanks for that vote of confidence LOLOLOLOLOL

Bart

^ that's why I don't run. (not really, though)

Inc.

Yeah, that's the problem comparing meta and (a whole lot) non-meta regulars

user310756

@Bart it's actually work! and a commitment and means a high public profile

Bart

10:25 AM

ewwww, work and commitment

blegh

user310756

and no pay

Shadow Wizard

@YvetteColomb hehe, just expressing my view on reality... but who knows you might make an awesome exception! :D

Inc.

I only browse MSO for drama nowadays :/

Shadow Wizard

@Inc. how you find the drama?

Inc.

simple. negative score. the more, the better

Shadow Wizard

10:27 AM

lol

Oded

truth

Shadow Wizard

huh, most downvoted question is about the new app.

-220

Q: Stack Overflow now has its own app on iOS and Android

TL;DR: Today we launched a new mobile app specifically for Stack Overflow. It lets you view, post, vote, and comment on Stack Overflow questions and answers. Download links are included in this post. Huh? Don’t we already have a mobile app? Alert readers may notice that you can already do all ...

Lots of drama there, true.

Inc.

"newest" sort, of course... old drama is.. old

Shadow Wizard

hmm...

user310756

@ShadowWizard yeh, you know I know that - you know? :D

Shadow Wizard

10:33 AM

I know!

Journeyman Geek

holy cow, that was a long answer

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek with one single typo. Congrats!!!

Journeyman Geek

lol

Shadow Wizard

I was amazed your single quotes were all there. :D

Journeyman Geek

ah

what do I normally do?

Shadow Wizard

10:46 AM

@JourneymanGeek this

Journeyman Geek

oh

@ShadowWizard those are not quotes tho

Sagar V

no SO mods

Journeyman Geek

I cannot for the life of me remember what they are called

@SagarV nuuu nu pinging mods! Only zee flagging!

Sagar V

one of my spam flag disputed and post removed.

Journeyman Geek

Unless you know a mod is fine with it, or its an absolute emergency

Sagar V

10:48 AM

want to ask for clarification

@JourneymanGeek how this will ping someone? no SO mods

Journeyman Geek

@SagarV not all bad posts are spam, and there's an additional reputation and system penalty to acceptefd spam flags

Sagar V

@JourneymanGeek it is an answer looks like ask this post in this site and a link to a forum. No affiliation disclosure.

Journeyman Geek

it could just be cluelessness and the mod chose to be merciful

the occational flag dismissal is fine

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek so what are they?

@SagarV which? (maybe it was simply not spam.)

Sagar V

@ShadowWizard stackoverflow.com/questions/43676861/…

Journeyman Geek

10:53 AM

It is an apostrophe

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV well, @ChrisF decided it's not spam.

Sagar V

what you think

Inc.

@ShadowWizard what's the link about?

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV it is spam, but can't override the mod decision.

Inc.

if it's the product's official forum, though... (can't see deleted post)

Sagar V

10:54 AM

@ShadowWizard please add a screenshot

Shadow Wizard

@Inc. leading to some forum. (Hewlett Packard Enterprise Software Community)

@SagarV Your Wish is My Screenshot!

user310756

@JourneymanGeek holy cow?

Inc.

Not spam, but NAA. That's the official site.

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek huh! apos something... bah, too long. :D

Single quote is what I know and use. ;)

Journeyman Geek

@YvetteColomb well, I am a indian Hindu

user310756

10:57 AM

@JourneymanGeek :D are you really?

Sagar V

@JourneymanGeek really?

Shadow Wizard

@YvetteColomb actually it's really really common term in Israel too.

user310756

I've never met a Hindu I don't like

Shadow Wizard

(said in English, not Hebrew)

@Inc. ohh... eh.... oh well. :)

user310756

@ShadowWizard it's common hear also, and we're a weird mob

user310756

11:00 AM

Ok I have decided. I will get my rep to 20K asap, so that in the next mod election on SO, I will be elected positive thinking Official Decree of the Day

user310756

11:15 AM

sounds of crickets

Shadow Wizard

Cricket sound (10 hours)

►

Enjoy!

user310756

@ShadowWizard you seriously have too much time on your hands LOLOLOLOL

Shadow Wizard

:P

Inc.

@ShadowWizard I can sleep with this :)

Journeyman Geek

@YvetteColomb yup

Shadow Wizard

11:23 AM

@Inc. and dream being outside? :D

user310756

@JourneymanGeek nice :)

user310756

@Inc. yeh, but not with @ShadowWizard yabbering on all the while :D

user310756

I think I'm so funny

Inc.

lol you're funny ;)

user310756

thank you :D

Bart

11:51 AM

@Inc. funny? Funny how? What do you mean, funny? Does she amuse you?

Inc.

déjà vu

Sagar V

12:07 PM

Hi @Ed, your mod message really freaks me but the follow up... good. thanks for the clarification

rene, kenny is not responding

Shadow poisoned it

/CC @ShadowWizard

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV @Ed does not ping @EdCottrell.

Sagar V

but he is here. Probably he may have seen it.

@ShadowWizard but why it didn't ping?

Inc.

@Sa

Sagar V

so minimum 3 letters

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV yes unless the whole name is less than that.

Sagar V

12:14 PM

hmm.

What is the difference between suspending a normal user vs suspending an unregistered user?

kamote is life

1

angular arrays filtering json typescript

unregisted user suspension

Ed Cottrell

@SagarV Thanks for understanding, and I apologize for any confusion. Also, @ShadowWizard is right; I didn't get pinged until shadow tagged me (and I probably would not have seen your message otherwise).

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV no diffference

Weird, not a single user with less than 3 characters in their display name.

Sagar V

@ShadowWizard ah you're addicted to f's too (3 f's) lol

Shadow Wizard

???

Sagar V

status-bydesign

@ShadowWizard di fff erence

Shadow Wizard

12:28 PM

@SagarV huh

20

Q: Why was a period added to my short display name?

I originally had "yx" as display name (when Stack Overflow still allowed 2 character display names). I did not change it, but I now see my display name contains a dot. Why was this change made? Even Jeff said I could retain it; yet, somehow it was changed without my knowledge.

support display-names

It was possible.

Sagar V

7

A: Why was a period added to my short display name?

It's been over a year since we had that grandfather period; users have had plenty of time to adjust. We're now normalizing all display names to be a minimum of 3 characters, so we don't have to keep special cases in our code.

@ShadowWizard but no more

user202362

I think my chicken looks like donald trump, especially in this picture ... anyone else think so too?

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV ...

@SagarV yuuup

@Telkitty he is more angry

Right now think he's angry with the whole world

user202362

my chicken is very old too :p

user202362

@ShadowWizard I know right ... that look, that thing on top of the head :p

Shadow Wizard

12:34 PM

Honestly, I don't think he'll be able to keep it up for long.... at some point he'll just explode.

Containing so much anger isn't good for the health.... :D

Bart

1:04 PM

@Telkitty it's a great chicken. The best chicken. People always say, they tell me, that's a great chicken.

Derpy

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy I prefer this:

user202362

@Bart My chicken wants me to ban all other birds from entering our backyard

user202362

you know ... travel ban ...

Bart

"Make our coop great again"?

user202362

1:11 PM

also must promote our domestic grown vegetables ...

user202362

no cheap foreign imports

Sagar V

1:45 PM

What will happen if it 2 way duped?

in 2017 Stack Overflow Moderator Election Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 mins ago, by Sagar V

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV when A is closed as dupe of B and someone vote to close B as dupe of A, they'll get error message.

Until then, nothing happens.

Sagar V

what if the 5th close votes cast at the same time for both Q?

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV same exact nano second? I doubt it.

Sagar V

the strange thing is both dupe is suggested by same person

@ShadowWizard yup

Shadow Wizard

It was possible before though, and fixed about four years ago...

18

Q: Circular duplicate link allowed

Circular duplicate links didn't used to be allowed, but I just did it: How to access the system tray using the keyboard? How to access (or switch between) tray icons with shortcut in windows?

bug status-completed exact-duplicates

@SagarV maybe he changed his mind, or just playing around, dunno.

@SagarV so there will be race condition, maybe this will "work". But it's pure theory.

Please don't write a script to "test" it.

Even if it cause circular closure, so what? In practice, it will never happen.

Sagar V

1:54 PM

playing around? he is a mod cand.

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV so?

Mods can play too. :D

Sagar V

hmm remember the words said by a previous SO mod

Shadow Wizard

He wants the Summer of Love to be over. buh. :D

Sagar V

a previous SO mod has this in his profile

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV and this?

Sagar V

2:00 PM

@ShadowWizard and this

Shadow Wizard

lol

Sagar V

lol

Shadow Wizard

Oh hey @Sag just thought of something.... moderator messages should now be anonymous as far as I know, how did you know what moderator sent it to you?

Sagar V

Sixth sense

Shadow Wizard

meh

Sagar V

2:09 PM

lol

who is A

user202362

a lot of people come to C++ room and ask C questions

user202362

they didn't know that they were writing C all along

user202362

they thought that they were coding in C++

Shadow Wizard

@Andy is this your sock?

Little Andy

1

Your avatars are almost the same...

user202362

maybe his duplicates ...

Shadow Wizard

2:19 PM

@Telkitty nah, he got enough of those

And this little Andy just asked for access to Chimney.... lol

rene

@ShadowWizard which I declined ...

Sagar V

@ShadowWizard how 1 rep user participate in chat?

Andy

@ShadowWizard Not mine, no

Journeyman Geek

2:35 PM

@SagarV typically they don't

@ShadowWizard Now they are, yes

Shadow Wizard

@rene how? Didn't see any decline option... ?

@SagarV he can only join a room, but can't write messages

Only moderator can grant the power to write messages to 1 rep user

Journeyman Geek

142

Q: Invite low rep users to participate in chat

I'm aware of the preference for 'general answers to general questions' attitude on SO, and wholeheartedly agree that questions that are focused on specific, one-time issues are not as valuable to the site. However, where an issue is potentially useful but getting to the heart of it is taking som...

feature-request chat

Shadow Wizard

So looks like it's not Andy's sock... maybe secret admirer?

Sagar V

thanks for the link @JourneymanGeek

the script is doing it's job pretty fine

taggify comments

jadarnel27

I should try to get 700 more fake Internet points on Stack Overflow.

Anonymous

2:47 PM

So close!

Shadow Wizard

@jadarnel27 why?

status-last-coffee-of-the-day

jadarnel27

I was hoping it would just, like, happen. But that's taking too long.

Sagar V

@ShadowWizard how to redify non tags?

Shadow Wizard

Somehow, eating slimdelis does not make me feel very slim.... :(

Anonymous

It's hard to get rep short-term these days. Not a ton of people viewing new posts, gotta wait for them to pile up.

Shadow Wizard

2:49 PM

@jadarnel27 oh, you said it before... :D

@SagarV [status-whatever-you-want-here]

Sagar V

status-something-testing-idc

@ShadowWizard only status-* allowed?

[status-@ShadowWizard]

no tag ping lol

jadarnel27

@JeremyBanks Which makes it easier to get points from accepts, I guess. At least the OP is usually somewhat engaged =)

Shadow Wizard

@SagarV yep and only english letter or hyphens

status-שלום

oh, and non-English letters

jadarnel27

@ShadowWizard I'll get to do all those fancy pants 10k things.

Sagar V

I think latin support

Shadow Wizard

2:52 PM

[status-♥]

Oded

[status-💩]

Shadow Wizard

lol

need to find letter that looks like poo

Sagar V

[status-🤔]

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

Hia

Shadow Wizard

status-便

Sagar V

2:55 PM

status-π

status-6-8-weeks

Shadow Wizard

status-点

Shower! ^

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

What is going on in here?

Looks like fun?

maybe?

ish?

eeeh

jadarnel27

It's Neal!

Sagar V

status-豆贝尔维

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

Who?

@jadarnel27 ctrlitall.com

neallub.in

jadarnel27

3:01 PM

I know better than to click on your questionable hyperlinks. Those are probably all spam, or some other type of potted meat.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

lol no. they are both me.

whois them if you want ;-)

=)

Man & His Sockpuppet

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Oh you touched 100k, congrats.

Sagar V

3:02 PM

@jadarnel27 they all will point to SO profile

Bart

Brown

2

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@BhargavRao Thank you :-) I technically passed it a whiiile back, but due to sock puppet and bounties I did not till last week ;-)

jadarnel27

@Oded That is one creepy photo.

Sagar V

@Oded is this the old you?

Journeyman Geek

.... that tie

Oded

3:04 PM

@jadarnel27 one of the least creepy photos for the google image search of "man and sock puppet"

jadarnel27

@SagarV I see you fell into his trap.

@Oded Hahaha wow. I imagine so.

Oded

@SagarV that person is wearing a tie. Can't be me.

jadarnel27

@Bart nods appreciatively

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Oded

You lost an arm.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Bart

3:06 PM

100k cost him an arm and a leg

jadarnel27

Ouch.

Oded

It only cost me my sanity

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@Oded yea. idk why it lost an arm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

jadarnel27

@Oded And really, how much of that did you have to begin with?

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

it only works in backticks... weird

Oded

3:06 PM

@jadarnel27 truth

rene

@ShadowWizard I simply choose No special access on their usercard that was shown on the access page

Sagar V

@Oded you can try Stackoverflow sockpuppet

friday is the dead line to complete project Content Builder 3 more days

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

🍌

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

3:23 PM

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rene

Looking at my reputation on MSE I have made new friends today ...

Sagar V

@rene hmm good friends.

rene

Most of them are ...

Sagar V

especially this person

4 votes in 2 minutes

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

lol

Bart

3:35 PM

@rene who did you upset this time?

rene

@Bart you pick one, many I would say ...

Bart

gg wp

jadarnel27

[✔] Very satisfied, would downvote again

rene

:D

bjb568

:D

Anonymous

4:21 PM

I wonder if anyone's done an analysis of post voting on election candidates during the election. I noticed more-than-usual votes while I was running. Do people with negative scores in the primaries also get many punitive post downvotes?

rene

4:38 PM

@JeremyBanks would you expect that to be significant enough to stand out in a SEDE query? Or do you invite us to manually check the 12 profiles of the candidates and make a guess?

Anonymous

@rene I hadn't thought that far ahead.

rene

Oh

Anonymous

There are scripts that monitor the primary votes in real-time; they might be extended the grab the rep.

rene

Hmm, hold on

well reputation is available in the api as well reputation history api.stackexchange.com/docs/… so that could work. But then you need to have either some baseline and normalize for regular rep events to determine if something is off

Let's ask @Undo if he sees fit in adding that ^

Bart

If only there was an employee who could do those things ...

rene

4:46 PM

It doesn't need to be an Employee, an open port and SQL credentials for production will work for me ...

Bart

I see no problem with that

rene

Me neither. What could possibly go wrong?

→ 5 messages moved to Chimney