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Today's xkcd comic (Mycology):

Conspiracy theory: There's no such thing as corn. Those fields you see are just the stalks of a fungus that's controlling our brains to make us want to spread it.

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Hey all -- why can't I vote to delete this post? stackoverflow.com/q/36450386/561731

IͶΔ

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Dunno.

You do have 20k on SO, right?

hichris123

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA It's not at -3?

IͶΔ

^

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@IͶΔ I most def do :-) ctrlitall.com

IͶΔ

4:13 PM

Eh, that's debatable.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@IͶΔ ha how so?

hichris123

Somehow that question got an upvote...

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@hichris123 Yea... idk how.

@hichris123 Yes that was it i guess.

I gotta delete that one in order to delete the other one apprently

Yes. I have googled and try console each and every line for las 3 days please give me a full solution or give me a full code that solve my problem@BhavyaKhurjawal — Tareq Aziz 4 hours ago

oy

nobody give me solution. Just hanging around. I think the people are here is helpful. Do you have any solution just give me don't mark as duplicate what should I do if I don't get any solution. — Tareq Aziz 5 mins ago

ugh idk what to do

I guess I give up?

@Neal. How you are helpful? I didn't ask for hire. I asked for help to solve my issue. If its my fault, learning is the most bad thing ever my life guys. thank you so much. I never asked question on StackOverflow. both questions are mine. I didn't get any solution on first question that's why asked second one. you guyz are so terrible but thank you again. — Tareq Aziz 1 min ago

hichris123

4:45 PM

Guess it wasn't just me...

2

Q: Tag (and link?) styling on per-site metas has changed

This might be related to Dropdowns (site chooser, inbox, notifications, mod inbox) no longer use uniform styling, but that was fixed last night and I'm still seeing this. On per-site metas I now see a darker gray background for the standard four tags, like this: I don't have an older screen s...

hichris123

15

A: Whatever happened to Stack Overflow TV (SOTV)?

It never got the momentum I was hoping for, and so died not with a bang, but with a whimper. We got a very good video producer, and some talented (and generous) speakers, but after cough hours of effort we stopped seeing the payoff. (Not in terms of literal $$, but always-scarce hours and attenti...

it doesn't really fit the ethos of SO (answers for practical software issues). Or, at least videos aren't a good fit for that (e.g., code tutorials presented as videos are the worst things since Hitler, objectively speaking). It would be a much better fit for other sites on SE. Like turning a hot question on arqade into a two minute video. Keep it on the cheap and simple and you might find you've got something good. — Will 2 hours ago

hichris123

4:58 PM

@DalijaPrasnikar prior to SE introducing stronger means of handling low quality questions at Stack Overflow this was not much of a problem at smaller sites - there were just not many askers and site communities could handle these "on front page" so to speak. Now that scared cockroaches started running away from SO trying to push their garbage anywhere else (that is, at other SE sites), amount of troublesome questions over there increased too much for local communities to handle. And SE management does exactly nothing about that — gnat 7 hours ago

Obviously "experimenting with 3 close votes to close a question" equals nothing...

rene

5:16 PM

sorry @hichris123 but I had to leave a comment on your meta question

I couldn't resist

user315433

> “We provision our remote employees with Aeron chairs and adjustable-height seating, just like in our offices,” she said. “We give remote employees a stipend to supplement the cost of Internet so it can be as lightning-fast as it is in our offices.” -- builtincolorado.com/2016/04/06/… (scroll down to SO part)

hichris123

Can you exactly describe what is bothering you, maybe with some red-circles and how it is affecting you in the actual use of the site features? — rene 7 mins ago

What, you couldn't figure out on your own? ;)

rene

nope ;)

user315433

Some other metas have brighter, more orangey links now. But I've no proof that this happened.

hichris123

yeah I thought so too...

user315433

5:25 PM

And I find Cryptography links too purple, but this may well be how they were.

hichris123

Just upvote meta.stackexchange.com/questions/278039/… and all will be well. ;P

user315433

Upvoted long ago.

hichris123

It's always fun to play the "will the Reopen Votes queue reopen this question?" game.

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5:44 PM

in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 25 secs ago, by Neal

10K rep means nothing... http://stackoverflow.com/q/36458459/561731

IͶΔ

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Removed by the author. Screenshot pleeeeeeease?

:'(

user315433

@hichris123 Moderation without participation has side effects like this. gnat hasn't posted on any main sites since October of last year.

hichris123

I've... posted 2 main site answers and 1 main site question since then...

And... the game results in a Leave Closed verdict. Sanity check here? stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/11917475

user315433

reopen++

user315433

An Honest Conversation About Ads and Ad Blockers - with Steve Feldman of Stack Overflow -- for those podcast-deprived.

KutuluMike

5:57 PM

@hichris123 reopened, yw :)

hichris123

I'm surprised all review queues aren't like the LQRQ, wherein it takes more Looks OK votes to override the Recommend Deletion votes.

@KutuluMike Thanks? :P

KutuluMike

does going through the reopen queue and failing erase the reopen votes?

it had 4 when i got there

user315433

Votes only go away when they expire (or take effect).

user315433

Expiration (aging) takes a few days at a minimum.

user315433

@hichris123 What do you mean? 6 RecDels are needed for deletion, and required number of Looks OK is # of flags + 2, which can be 3 in practice.

hichris123

6:00 PM

@404 I thought it took more Looks OKs if there were Recommend Deletion votes. No?

Maybe my knowledge of SE intricacies is getting rusty...

Shog9

no; you might be thinking of Suggested Edits. There is a threshold where a sufficient number of Recommend Deletion reviews will trigger another flag for moderator oversight if LO reviews hit a threshold, but

hichris123

Ah yeah that's probably what I was thinking of. The conflicted review auto-flag or whatever.

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@IͶΔ naaah

get to 10k ;-P (or is it 20?)

IͶΔ

I don't even have a post on SO. -____-

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA 90. :P

hichris123

Interesting to look at the list of questions with 50k+ views. For one...

-1

Q: How to Remove the last char of String in C#?

Please Read this carefully and then tell me this question is duplicate. I have read all questions in stack over flow about remove last char from string but mine is different. Please attention I have numeric string, which may be "124322" or "1231.232" or "132123.00". I want to remove the last char...

c# string trim

And then we get to 200k views + closed (after being reopened by Shog, no less): stackoverflow.com/questions/19082860/…

And then there's a question about Android Studio that's closed as general computing... stackoverflow.com/questions/16590216/…

Shog9

6:14 PM

Has Spring made it any easier to download their damn software yet?

hichris123

> Let's build a better Enterprise.

One can dream...

How many programmers does it take to download Spring? A lot, when Spring acts like Microsoft and Oracle. — engineer Jan 14 at 21:55

Looks like a no.

52k views for a syntax error... stackoverflow.com/questions/15558482/…

Looks like @bjb568 is lurking in the shadows.

bjb568

7 answers deleted! Yay!

A few million more to go.

Shog9

FYI: I've converted this to a wiki to encourage folks to keep it updated (and prevent the question from being closed or deleted until such a time as Spring gets their act together and makes this more obvious). — Shog9 ♦ 6 secs ago

hichris123

84k views, 270 upvotes, closed, and zero answers. stackoverflow.com/questions/15051712/…

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@IͶΔ ;-P

IͶΔ

6:26 PM

@hichris123 I'm gonna upvote that to annoy you, m'kay?

hichris123

It actually has 273 upvotes, substitute in score for upvotes. :P

KutuluMike

@hichris123 sorry, took me a few hours to get to the "closed" banner.

hichris123

lol

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I wonder how you got that Stack Overflow score. — Duvdevan 2 mins ago

IͶΔ

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA Oooh shiny. How do you get SO scores? I wanna know!

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

6:32 PM

@IͶΔ ha

@IͶΔ answering questions >4 years ago helps ;-P

user315433

@hichris123 The number of answers seems about right, because it's not a question.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

@hichris123 There is an answer, just deleted (with 14 upvotes)

SmokeDetector

6:54 PM

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asdf_enel_hak

7:10 PM

Could someone tell me what is this #korean thing? A korean couple gave me as I help them to get metro in #Istanbul https://t.co/7TEZ6xV7O1

Tweeted by MuratOguzalp on April 6, 2016 at 7:02 PM

Andy

7:23 PM

Is that relevant, somehow @asdf_enel_hak?

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Anyone see anything wrong with this answer? stackoverflow.com/a/36460473/561731

user315433

Other than let support being at 60%... caniuse.com/#search=let

asdf_enel_hak

@Andy Am I not supposed to do share this?

IͶΔ

@asdf_enel_hak You can share anything you want.

But well, don't you also expect people to be relevant when they're talking to you?

If so, let's talk about volleyball world championship.

asdf_enel_hak

7:39 PM

@IͶΔ Thanks for correcting misunderstanding, my english sucks in these days

I am just looking for some korean speaking people to figure out what I will do with it? Is it shampoo or somekind of tea ! soundcloud.com/moguzalp/tatli-badem-yagi

hichris123

@amanaPlanaCAnalPAnaMA hah

@404 Apparently there was an answer, I was wrong. :P

user315433

7:54 PM

In the last 2 seconds, @Button has received more than 10 DMs. @Twitter - help! https://t.co/thnITpHy8M

Tweeted by chrismaddern on April 6, 2016 at 7:37 PM

user315433

Well, you pick your handle, you wear it.

hichris123

48

Q: Why is the Fibonacci series used in agile planning poker?

When estimating the relative size of user stories in agile software development the members of the team are supposed to estimate the size of a user story as being 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, ... . So the estimated values should resemble the Fibonacci series. But I wonder, why? The description of http://e...

math statistics agile agile-project-management

Planning... poker?

Mar 31 at 0:02, by Shog9

in The Whiteboard on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Jan 8 at 19:23, by Ampt

@Shog9 What do become level 89 Scrum Wizard Master??

I guess if you win a hand of agile planning poker you get some poker title.

Hmm, this is an awful question but is it too localized? stackoverflow.com/questions/4163711/… If 40k+ people have viewed it...

Then again, there's a ton of views on some of those syntax error questions.

user315433

How do you turn off syntax highlighting, again? I'm trying to edit that post.

user315433

 did not help

hichris123

There has to be a blank line in between the code block and the lang tag.

stackoverflow.com/help/formatting

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

8:06 PM

@hichris123 yep

user315433

Edited now.

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user315433

@hichris123 I tried to make it slightly less awful, did it work?

hichris123

@404 I removed a little bit more of the irrelevant stuff, and voted to reopen.

It looks like the user just posted an excerpt of the installation log, and was only asking about the salt/cipher stuff.

user315433

That's how I understood it, and the answer explains how to change that.

amanaP lanaC A nalP A naM A

8:21 PM

Do I have to; I understand the sanctity of SO requires that I prove to the SO elders that I tried to learn first and better myself, but if you've used Tableau before, then you'll know that while it's robust, anytime you want to do something beyond the basics, there's a 90% it involves some non-intuitive hack. So no, I didn't roll out of bed and come begging for answers without trying anything, I've spent 3 hours trying to figure this out. — coburne 2 mins ago

:-(

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rene

@hichris123 yes, awesome technique and gives pretty darn good estimates

hichris123

@rene What do you do, play a hand of poker?

rene

I see you are really interested in the topic ...

user315433

Planning poker

Planning poker, also called Scrum poker, is a consensus-based, gamified technique for estimating, mostly used to estimate effort or relative size of development goals in software development. In planning poker, members of the group make estimates by playing numbered cards face-down to the table, instead of speaking them aloud. The cards are revealed, and the estimates are then discussed. By hiding the figures in this way, the group can avoid the cognitive bias of anchoring, where the first number spoken aloud sets a precedent for subsequent estimates. Planning poker is a variation of the Wideband...

hichris123

8:34 PM

It's a nice diversion from trying to salvage posts.

100% agree that the "closed as off topic" is wrong and that the guildelines should be updated - more lenience is needed - SO is heading in the wrong direction. It is obvious that @will is completely off the mark, and should have his moderator privileges removed - this single question is proof enough. — stolsvik Apr 9 '13 at 15:22

lol

rene

That Wont happen ...

bjb568

@404 Here at DevDoodle, we don't plan. We do.

user315433

@hichris123 It appears to directly involve tools used primarily for programming...

bluefeet

@rene you think? I used it at my last few places and it was pretty much a joke.

cubrr

Should a translation edit be rejected or approved? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/11920354

I mean...the original question as it is should be on es.stackoverflow.com

rene

8:44 PM

@bluefeet I used it on all my projects since 2008 and never looked back. If done correctly it can't go wrong.

hichris123

@404 I'm on the fence about it. While that is true, it seems more of a DBA question than a programming question.

user315433

Right, and DBA.se didn't exist in 2008.

hichris123

true

But is it on-topic for SO?

user315433

I guess at the time it was considered on topic. Nowadays would be migrated to DBA. So we'd have a hard time getting it reopened.

rene

@cubrr It is an effort to salvage the question but it is not a great question. So I would accept but also close vote the question.

user315433

8:47 PM

If it doesn't succeed at salvaging a question (it should still be closed), then I think the edit should be rejected.

rene

I edited the title as well and we disagree @404

user315433

Cool. Voted to reopen the db copying question, btw. Don't see much harm being prevented by its closure.

hichris123

How many reopen votes do you get per day?

I doubt I've used more than 5 today, but I was just curious.

> Fifty close/reopen votes per day per user on Stack Overflow

user315433

60, same as close.

hichris123

So 60, yeah.

user315433

8:52 PM

There appears to be no indication of remaining reopen or undelete votes.

hichris123

Now we get to a 33k view question closed by a certain cat... stackoverflow.com/questions/33742114/…

user315433

What I'd like to see in this context is anonymous feedback. Did those 33k find it helpful? Probably yes in this case, but one has to go digging.

hichris123

You have to go to SEDE for that, right?

0

Q: What does return mean in Python?

I searched the whole internet for the meaning of the return statement. I know it ends the define statement, but I know it still does something else! What else does it do?

python return

:/ 40k views

user315433

@hichris123 Yes, like so: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/73917/…

hichris123

stackoverflow.com/questions/18854515/… with nearly 40k views... almost roomba eligible though (upvoted answer)

user315433

8:59 PM

I would not mind that one getting roomba'd. The anonymous feedback on the answer is 107 : 137

hichris123

lol

user315433

Things change quickly around iPhones and their SIMs, so why keep a post that doesn't belong in a place where it doesn't get updated.

hichris123

It's these times that I wish I could just delete posts outright.

In other news, no one has reviewed Reopen Votes in 53 minutes.

I swear a lot of NARQ-closed questions are... real questions. ex: stackoverflow.com/questions/14041207/…

user315433

Reopen queue is so difficult... On one hand, I'm not going to decide if one C++ question is really a duplicate of the other. On another, filtering by tags leaves you with nothing.

hichris123

9:34 PM

Results: 3x Leave Closed, 1x Reopen on the Android Studio question: stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/11921049

rene

It accuses the user of arrogance, in a most arrogant manner. Kinda funny really. — Oded ♦ 14 mins ago

Quill

10:16 PM

morning

user315433

Earlier I complained about people who post a link to their Google document/spreadsheet and think that others can see it (without sharing). Well, Google "fixed" that by combining "get a link" action with "make the document shared". What could possibly go wrong?

hichris123

On the CakePHP question we're at 1x Leave Closed, 1x Reopen: stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/11920566

And the hover effects question is at 2x Leave Closed. stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/11921189

Make that 2x Leave Closed, 1x Reopen.

user315433

10:32 PM

Stack Overflow Reopen Review Ineffectiveness, aka SORRI.

3

hichris123

Obviously there needs to be a meta post with this acronym.

Or is it a backronym? :P

hover effects ends up with 3x Leave Closed 1x Reopen.

CakePHP is at 2x Leave Closed 2x Reopen.

I do wonder when I see this...

user315433

10:59 PM

The Twitter lists that NormalHumanSE has been added to so far: Xamarin dev, Ethereum, Software Tech, Internationalization

hichris123

How many members do those lists have, I wonder.

user315433

Between 1033 and 5000. Is 5000 the limit?

hichris123

Probably.

user315433

Yes, it is: support.twitter.com/articles/20169276 Well, I'm proud of making the cut, then.

hichris123

91

Q: "Best" background color for your editor

I have a black background with white characters but I want to know if other combination (white with black characters or yellow characters or blue background like turbo pascal) work for you. Do you have any info about which combination is better for the eyes? Why the default is white with black ...

editor colors

Talk about bikeshedding...

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11:09 PM

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hichris123

I dunno... I wouldn't want to deprive you of your daily muffin. — Adam Lear ♦ 3 mins ago

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