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bjb568

12:11 AM

@JeffreyBosboom Meh, JS has Promises built in, so you can do all that.

Jeffrey Bosboom

Sure, if you want to build it yourself. But why would you do that instead of, say, building your actual application?

bjb568

I don't.

Quill

@bjb568 Inserts standards xkcd

Aaron Hall

@bjb568 What we need is one framework to unify them all and serve the needs of everyone!

bjb568

:D

tchrist

12:37 AM

@AaronHall And in the darkness bind them.

user315433

What's more readable: [, , '@STRING@'] or ['', '', '@STRING@'] ?

bjb568

None of the above.

Why is there shouty case with complicated at-symbols?

user315433

Okay, but I need 2nd element to be that string and don't care about 0th and 1st.

user315433

@bjb568 Black magic, apparently. Or an undocumented feature of GAS, formatting a spreadsheet cell as plaintext.

user315433

Totally intuitive.

user315433

12:42 AM

(I tested: it has to be shouty, and with those symbols.)

bjb568

@Marshmallow It doesn't make much of a difference in terms of readability.

user315433

I sort of like the shorter version with things left undefined, but it looks more like a typo.

bjb568

Meh, looks fine to me.

tchrist

Consecutive commas are no one's friend.

JamesENL

Morning

tchrist

12:47 AM

hearkens to meows

user202362

@tchrist Unless in the CSV ("Comma Separated Values") files

hichris123

1:03 AM

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A: The flag menu needs improvement

I think we can all agree, the flag dialog is terrible. It's a compromise solution to many different (and often opposing) needs, and as a result is simultaneously awkward for experienced users while lacking sufficient guidance for new ones. That said, I don't have any better ideas, and yours are ...

Tempted to flag as NAA ;) — Servy 5 hours ago

user315433

Servy was the first to earn gold discussion badge on meta.SO. One of three non-mods non-employees to do so (the other two are Makoto and rene).

user315433

Some people like to discuss...

hichris123

Servy is an excellent meta person. Would make a good mod...

user315433

I was the first to get gold discussion badge on meta.math, and wouldn't...

user202362

1:20 AM

I spend 99% of my time here on the chats ~constructive parasite~ :p

tchrist

Termite?

user202362

user202362

the hive is almost like a castle

Aaron Hall

@Marshmallow The latter looks a little more explicit.

hichris123

@Marshmallow You never know. ;P

Shog9

1:45 AM

thus, you've always lost half the battle

JamesENL

I recently was diagnosed as colour blind. It came completely out of the purple

hichris123

How does it answer the question? He's asking what it is, not what it is not. — Dawid Ferenczy 10 hours ago

lol that's a comment on an answer by the OP.

@Shog9 Glass half empty, glass half full. You can win the other half.

Shog9

if you call that winning

hichris123

is this Shog talks philosophy time?

Shog9

I'm so hungry

hichris123

1:53 AM

Don't you have yogurt?

Shog9

I ate it.

I do have roast beef though

hichris123

Buy more?

Shog9

but it'd be a shame to eat that without the potatoes

and they're not done cooking yet

hichris123

Let's see... it's 7:53? Pretty late dinner... I'd eat whatever I could. :P

Shog9

low blood sugar is a virtue

hichris123

1:55 AM

so is having strength and energy.

Shog9

Finished replacing the tire on the front of a motorcycle, only to realize I'd lost a spacer somewhere in the process

If I'd been less optimistic about the whole process, I'd have labelled them

And also not carried the wheel around on my head, triumphantly, thus giving the spacer plenty of opportunity to drop and roll away

pride goeth before destruction

user315433

@Shog9 pic pls

Shog9

I'VE LEARNED MY LESSON

hichris123

I swear people are flagging every post with a link in it as VLQ/NAA and that's why the LQP queue is so large...

Shog9

that's quite the colorful curse

hichris123

2:01 AM

> to state (something) very strongly and sincerely

But is it colorful? Or is it monochrome and bland?

Shog9

hey, monochrome things do not have to be bland

this gravy is a uniform shade, yet it most certainly isn't bland

hichris123

You have that much faith in its manufacturing that you think it's uniform?

Maybe you need to talk with Jin about your "uniform" gravy.

JamesENL

In the gravy, you can sail the seven seas, in the gravy, you can put your life at ease

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bjb568

@Shog9 Tell that to my school's cafeteria workers.

Shog9

I would tend to assume they have more pressing problems

bjb568

2:07 AM

@Shog9 Oh yeah, it's total brouhaha over there. AIR testing. It's like the 186 million dollar PARCC test that they had last year and trashed, but better!

Shog9

"AIR"?

user202362

@Shog9 Checked your blood triglycerides level lately? The beauty of annual general checkup is the constant reminder that you should turn into a vegan

Shog9

I haven't. What do they taste like?

user202362

fat

bjb568

@Shog9 American Institutes for Research. I guess that makes us the research.

Shog9

2:09 AM

I try to ensure I put just the right amount of tallow in my gravy.

user202362

Triglyceride

A triglyceride (TG, triacylglycerol, TAG, or triacylglyceride) is an ester derived from glycerol and three fatty acids (tri- + glyceride). Triglycerides are the main constituent of body fat in humans and animals, as well as vegetable fat. They are also present in the blood to enable the bidirectional transference of adipose fat and blood glucose from the liver, and are a major component of human skin oils. There are many different types of triglyceride, with the main division being between saturated and unsaturated types. Saturated fats are "saturated" with hydrogen – all available places where...

user202362

as you can read, it tastes like fat because it's fat

hichris123

@bjb568 Standardized testing... during AP exams. Ain't it fun.

bjb568

Oh yeah. There's block scheduling so I get a 4h block with Physics and we're going bowling.

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user315433

3:10 AM

Retrocomputing is at 100% but probably isn't launching tomorrow.

user315433

Very quick, the proposal is just 3 months old.

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4:09 AM

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JamesENL

5:38 AM

sd 5k

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JamesENL

6:30 AM

sd 5k

Ferrybig

6:51 AM

The reason a large number of posts went here is because there was no one marking the posts in the CharCoal HQ

Shadow Wizard

7:31 AM

@Ferrybig yes, we know. (Well, I know at least. :))

Derpy

8:32 AM

this room is booooooring.

where is @bart when we need him?

Unikitty Blends People

in the toilet

Shadow Wizard

@UnikittyBlendsPeople so you're the one who put the camera!

What @Bart is doing there?

Unikitty Blends People

um no

Derpy

8:58 AM

@JamesENL Thinking of it, there were some cats in Sailor Moon. Maybe he secretly is Artemis?

JamesENL

gasp You've cracked the mystery

Derpy

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Unikitty Blends People

lol

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9:35 AM

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Shadow Wizard

9:54 AM

sd 2k

bjb568

10:19 AM

Quill

that's not a png

what even

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Shadow Wizard

10:57 AM

@Quill it's actualy gifv but since those can't be oneboxed, @bjb568 made imgur serve a gif by asking for .png - not 100% how it works though :/

Quill

it probably redirects the type, I guess

Shadow Wizard

@Quill yup, though .gif also works so dunno why @bjb568 chose to add .png

bjb568

Whatevs

Derpy

11:17 AM

are you all sure it is not an apng?

wait... it is a video???

mumble... this... is interesting.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy 100% sure: caniuse.com/#feat=apng (using Chrome)

@Derpy it's something imgur invented, I think, kind of wrapping a gif as HTML5 video

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Q: Add support for .gifv format in chat onebox

Recently Imgur announced to drop the legacy GIF format with the new GIFV format. Why GIFV? It's lightweight Being a video format, it also allows more flexibility like not autoplaying or autoloading by default which .gif just disrespects. Oh, and you can pause it too. It supports streaming and ...

feature-request chat onebox

@Derpy ^

Derpy

1:10 PM

Nice. Just discovered the chat also support unicode widgins.

I propose we all switch to Gaster speech.

DroidDev

tries to decode the age of @Derpy by his messages

Derpy

So, me liking Undertale will give you information about my age? oooook.

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Shadow Wizard

@SmokeDetector thanks!

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Derpy

ok.... now I have seen all...

A Year selection dropdown that goes cascading on a Month one

and, to prove that the years are actual dupes DB side.....

2013 has "January"

2012 has "january"

Unikitty Blends People

i haz pink tavern

Derpy

and before anyone even tries to devise a reason for doing this... It is a birth date input form.

Who needs SharePoint to throw curve balls at you when you got such brilliant examples of UI patterns.

Shadow Wizard

2:04 PM

!!/report meta.stackexchange.com/a/278243

!!/alive?

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Shadow Wizard

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Shadow Wizard

hmm.. probably posting only in Charcoal

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user315433

3:20 PM

Chance Heath, New York, NY, United States

1 1

user315433

^ new Product Manager, not much information yet

Unikitty Blends People

Cool

user315433

Cool photo here: chanceheath.com

user315433

But Twitter twitter.com/chanceheath is private. ಠ_ಠ

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user315433

5:15 PM

Latin mods announced by animuson, is this the first time he's done this? meta.latin.stackexchange.com/questions/176/…

rene

5:31 PM

Cerberus, nice.

Shog9

bah, wrong spelling

user315433

6:34 PM

Two other mods are relatively new to the network: Nathaniel joined in October 2013, Joonas in July 2014.

user315433

BTW, 3D Printing is a month older than Latin Language, and still doesn't have mods. Despite all the alphabetical spam they get...

user315433

I have 22 helpful spam flags on 3D printing, versus 0 on Latin.

user315433

If 3D printing beta fails, Academia folks will be sad.

rene

6:50 PM

Why is that?

On 3D printing, this was in the news here

user315433

7:05 PM

in Academia on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Feb 7 at 21:27, by Wrzlprmft

Hurray, 3D Printing is in public beta! This means we are not the first site in alphabetical ordering anymore and they get all the questions from those who are stupid enough to choose the site they are asking on this way.

user315433

Not to mention spammers who choose sites in the same way.

user315433

> the latest creations in 3D food will be showcased

user315433

My food was 3D all this time.

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rene

7:41 PM

@Marshmallow :D

AstroCB

8:16 PM

Is Generalist a new badge?

hichris123

no...?

why?

AstroCB

Hmm

...and so on, all the way to the bottom

hichris123

strange... meta.stackexchange.com/help/badges/15/generalist

Maybe it was just turned on for per-site metas?

AstroCB

That's probably it

hichris123

Hmm... what other meta sites would be popular enough? meta.Math has no Generalists...

Shog9

8:29 PM

The Generalist badge requires the site to have at least 40 tags with > 200 questions in them.

A good many main sites don't meet this criteria

Meta sites are even more rare

hichris123

Oh yeah.

I checked SU, AU, Math, SF... nothing. So meta.SO is probably the only meta.

Shog9

In fact, Meta Stack Exchange and Meta Stack Overflow are the only two meta sites that qualify

The next closest is Meta Mathematics, which has... 12 tags with > 200 questions.

JonasCz

Any idea when Retrocomputing is going to launch ? It has 100% since yesterday

Shog9

8:53 PM

hey @Rob - you need to slow down your close vote monitor, please

user315433

OMG I JUST GOT THE GENERALIST BADGE! .. except I got it on Meta :/

Tweeted by tinkertim on April 12, 2016 at 2:39 PM

user315433

@JonasCz Betas launch on Tuesdays. Retrocomputing reached 100% just 1-2 days ago, so it would not launch this week; there is some period of time (either waiting or work to do, or both) before the red button is pushed. In recent months, I notice that the time gap between 100% and launch has increased somewhat; it's not unusual for a beta to sit at 100% for two weeks.

Quill

9:53 PM

morning

user315433

10:09 PM

Me [smugly]: So you see, when you use the right correction, the p-value is .023, not .02 Dev: Are you the guy who broke the build yesterday

Tweeted by drob on April 11, 2016 at 4:45 PM

user315433

The skill of putting the right amount of whitespace in tweets is not something to be taken for granted... and onebox doesn't really respect it.

user315433

@DavidRobinson The new navigation on SO has been available for many months; does it have any impact on answering? Or is it being evaluated at all?

David Robinson

@Marshmallow What is this in reference to?

user315433

> Once we smooth out the known issues and the bugs you identify we will begin testing on a larger scale, and we will A/B test the solution to see if our users navigate better with it. meta.stackoverflow.com/q/308875

user315433

I guess the clause "once we smooth out..." places this at some indefinite point in the future. Oh well.

hichris123

10:18 PM

6-8 units is probably the answer there. ;)

Quill

busy has no definition on the internet

David Robinson

@Marshmallow I was talking a bit to Sklivvz about A/B testing it a while back (December?), but it may have fallen through the cracks since. I don't know if it's being tested now

You're welcome to blame me; I don't work with Core often (most of my A/B testing work is other parts of the site) so it's easy to lose track of features.

user315433

The parts where the money is, I suppose...

David Robinson

I'll check in with Sklivvz tomorrow

hichris123

@Nick_Craver that would be the best troll ever... If we one day revealed this was all run on WordPress.

Tweeted by haneycodes on April 12, 2016 at 10:15 PM in reply to Nick_Craver

Quill

10:24 PM

I noticed Time is run on wordpress today

what an appalling turn of events

hichris123

No wonder... it has so many ads you can barely read the site.

Like seriously, a large banner ad and 4 other smaller ones just in a viewport isn't enough for ya?

Quill

I might write a userscript to block all iframes

surely no decent web design uses iframes

user315433

You're just using a wrong TLD. time.gov is more informative, and has no ads

hichris123

@Marshmallow It used Flash as of a few years back... has it finally migrated to HTML5?

> The original Java applet time.gov site has been replaced with HTML5, cross-platform-compatible code requiring no plugins.

Finally!

user315433

It uses a scary thing that was apparently compiled to JS from something (?) time.gov/nist_time.lzx.js

hichris123

10:29 PM

I take it back... not sure that's too much better.

user315433

OpenLaszlo

OpenLaszlo is a discontinued open source platform for the development and delivery of rich Internet applications. It is released under the Open Source Initiative certified Common Public License (CPL). The OpenLaszlo platform consists of the LZX programming language and the OpenLaszlo Server. LZX is an Extensible Markup Language (XML) and JavaScript description language similar in spirit to XUL, MXML, and Extensible Application Markup Language (XAML). LZX enables a declarative, text-based development process that supports rapid prototyping and software development best practices. It is designed...

user315433

@hichris123 At least it runs on iOS.

Quill

> {});;;;lz.ClassAttributeTypes["$lfc

what even

user315433

Obviously they didn't post this on Code Review.

hichris123

> Stable release 4.9.0 / October 21, 2010; 5 years ago

> Development status Discontinued

Did they even make the switch before 2010?

user315433

10:37 PM

@hichris123 No, the HTML5 version went live in 2014. web.archive.org/web*/time.gov/HTML5

hichris123

Ugh.

Switch from one obsolete thing to another...

user315433

It's a government site... could not have taken less than 5 years to get the project approved.

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hichris123

11:01 PM

Know your target audience. Which is certainly not the kind of people that will respond to this poll. The leads are kinda obvious, anybody with a newish account. Biggest problem you have to solve is that you got a lot of junk data right now, a user that created his 10th account is not your target. Fix that first, ditch OpenID. Best time to learn something about the new user is at account creation time, he'll take the time to answer a few questions. — Hans Passant Mar 30 at 9:59

13 days later... 8 answers, all by users with 1.5k+ rep.

user315433

11:15 PM

@hichris123 You should add one, too.

user315433

Jan 13 at 21:18, by Shog9

Tell us a story about what brought you to SO, what sparked your imagination and fired your passion for it. And what has weakened your faith here today, made you fear for the future and wonder if this will all soon come to naught.

hichris123

Why did I join SO? Because I didn't understand integer overflow. :P

My story isn't all that interesting. I'd rather hear from a lower rep user... I haven't been in that place in years. Maybe it's time to remember.

Quill

I just heard about it in my Corporate Unicorns mailing group

user315433

I joined because I grew tired of Math.SE stuff. This is probably not typical.

user315433

Speaking of math, my second Ph.D. student defended today. Yay.

hichris123

11:23 PM

Hopefully against their committee and not in a courtroom...

Shog9

I assume the student reluctantly chose a weapon, then had to use it to fend off a Marshmallow attack.

4

hichris123

How do you best prepare for a marshmallow attack? Run away?

Shog9

I'm partial to graham crackers akimbo, but I won't say it's the best

hichris123

You seem to have experience in this field... which kinda scares me.

Shog9

burning sugar isn't something you want to face unprepared

hichris123

11:30 PM

You're supposed to toast marshmallows, not torch them.

Quill

The metova team's going well. they even have a rep race query

user315433

@hichris123 The toasting part was after the defense

user315433

By the way, the thesis cites one MathOverflow post and one Math.SE post.

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11:33 PM

FR: make the wavatar option default for gravatar.

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Quill

I only just realised @Marshmallow is @404

10/10 name change

hichris123

@Quill You haven't been here long enough to remember all of his names. :P Which is why Shog resorts to ol' Slim.

Where did that come from anyway, @Marshmallow?

Quill

I only remember a few

user315433

@hichris123 The team Quill linked above, as seen with WavatarSE userscript.

hichris123

11:38 PM

@Marshmallow I meant where did "ol' Slim" come from. :P

user315433

Fun fact: searching for "slim" in chat is difficult because of spam reports.

Doorknob

The oldest one I remember specifically was "Fundamental." But I know I'd been around before and seen some others; I just can't recall them off the top of my head right now.

hichris123

Indeed...

Jun 17 '15 at 18:58, by Shog9

this is slim's doing, I feel it in my bones

@Doorknob There was the McDonald's one...

Maybe that came after Fundamental?

Quill

@Marshmallow I only realised you were 404 because of that script ;p

hichris123

Ooh we have Warm Fuzzies from 2014...

Jan 18 '15 at 1:47, by user259867

Jan 18 '15 at 1:48, by user259867

^ hichris, Undo, and myself in the Smoke Detector room.

user202362

11:44 PM

hot cross buns with coconut spread + lamington cake with fresh cream for breakfast - looks like I need to munch on veges for lunch and dinner to re-balance healthiness ...

user315433

FR: a commitstrip bot.

hichris123

There's always Feeds...

Quill

we get commitstrip fed into the CR room

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