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I noticed that its still possible to get the email hash from users, even though it was removed. Like this: Hello, user, I want your chat account link User passes in link Regex magic happens We get this link: http://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/users/thumbs/1 Which returns something like...

Well MSE is kinda dead after the read-only time

user259867

That JSON response looks scary. "invite_targets": "may_pairoff": "issues": ...

bjb568

Jeff Atwood ♦, El Cerrito, CA

254k 82 714 1145

feature-request status-completed discussion bug support status-declined status-bydesign

user259867

For me, it returns "email_hash": "!http://i.stack.imgur.com/FvXqo.jpg?s=128&g=1", :)

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

Did you define a email?

user259867

Sort of.

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

4:57 PM

Weird

user259867

@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy You also have picture URL there. So does bjb.

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

Hmmm... testing this on another mod

user259867

I think although the field is called email_hash, it is actually a reference to profile image, be it Gravatar or imgur upload.

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

Dunno, because I can't tell when it comes up and when it doesn't

For example, Jeff and Shog have it, but Anna doesn't

Then us regular users don't

ProgramFOX

@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy Might depend on where your avatar is hosted: Gravatar, or Imgur.

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

5:00 PM

@pro what do you use?

Sup @ᔕᖺᘎᕊ

ᔕᖺᘎᕊ

lol

ProgramFOX

@UnicornsAreVeryVeryYummy Gravatar, I think

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

Hmmm, seems to only appear when user uses gravatar

Well Jeff knows now

@codinghorror I know your email has through SE chat

Tweeted by EdwarrrrdYeung on August 1, 2015 at 5:02 PM

Wait... should be hash not has

user259867

Hovering over his profile pic would give the same info easier...

user259867

I'm sure it's salted by now, just don't have a reference to a meta post.

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

5:06 PM

Huh lol

google.com.sg/…

Apparently Jeff's email hash is famous

user259867

@Vishal - not more "secure", but we salt before hashing, meaning that the hash no longer directly corresponds to the email address that was used to generate it. We will not be changing the salt either, so the gravatar should remain as it is. — Oded ♦ Sep 24 '13 at 8:37

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

Bye @ᔕᖺᘎᕊ

user259867

Hi @ᔕᖺᘎᕊ

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

5:24 PM

Happy national day burning up

VIDEO: ComfortDelgro taxi catches fire along Ang Mo Kio Ave 5 http://on.fb.me/1N0d1jU http://t.co/AZxKEdhM1S

Tweeted by ChannelNewsAsia on August 1, 2015 at 5:21 PM

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[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Seeking recommendations for a Ph D programme by A. Oppenheimer on academia.stackexchange.com

Anna Lear

@Braiam what do you mean?

ProgramFOX

Suggested-edit troll: meta.stackexchange.com/users/300646/…

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Mods to the rescue!

Braiam

5:45 PM

@AnnaLear I was flagging a stream of spam, and on some sites I have previously activated keyboard shortcuts, while on others I did not, I was thinking that that preference could be carried over using the same method for global login (in other words, this meta.stackexchange.com/q/237172/213575)

Anna Lear

@Braiam In theory, but we don't carry preferences in cookies. Would still need a db backing for it (if you log out, don't want to have to reset your prefs), and if we have that, we no longer need to carry prefs in cookies.

durron597

http://acheterfrance.fr may need to be added to smokey's website list

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

Its an audit

I think

SmokeDetector

6:02 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected in title: Vashikaran Specialist Molvi Ji Baba+91-9166667606 by Bunty Betting Raja on mathematica.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PHP ERROR CODEIGNITER by Jana likes PHP on stackoverflow.com

Braiam

@AnnaLear so, that means that you need to hack it with perl? D:

and, well, I don't know if it's correct, but the way I have a global account, don't I have a global preferences?

rene

6:20 PM

Hmmm, one user just deleted their account after having a disagreement with me. Sorry SE, I'll try to be more careful....

Braiam

rene: 1; SE: 0

rene

> You shall not pass.

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6:39 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Digital Ocean "Droplet" allgedly compromised for trivial, unpublicized website. Should I be worried abouty my own machine? by user45940 on security.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@NormalHuman Body - Position 689-693: porn

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

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6:51 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: Why won't my dog eat on her own? by a deleted user on pets.stackexchange.com

user259867

$user image$

ProgramFOX

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Body - Position 425-436: weight loss

ProgramFOX

oh

@SmokeDetector fp-

user259867

@NormalHuman this summarizes my current SE experience... pages load okay, AJAX requests hardly ever succeed. Could have to do with the "quality" of my connection...

rene

7:03 PM

@NormalHuman Are you on a windows box?

Braiam

lo and behold, the knowledge of the ancients that rene will show us now

rene

On win95 I didn't had these kind of problems

user259867

It's a Chromebook. But probably the connection. Moved to another place.

rene

Moved as in found a better spot, not as in where you need Movers and Packers

user259867

Actually I will need those too: moving into a new office this Monday.

user259867

7:15 PM

user259867

^ the one on the left will be mine.

rene

Looks OK

Even better than the dull office building I'm in...

user259867

I suppose the tiny interior windows are for watching who's coming in, so I can hide under the desk if necessary.

rene

lol

Its main reason is probably some law that requires 10% of daylight in a hallway...

user259867

7:35 PM

@SmokeDetector fp-

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7:46 PM

Arrgh

My internet's like super suck now

user259867

Maybe it's contagious.

user259867

My Math rep is so neat right now... 40004

Braiam

quietly closes the tab

Unicorns Are Very Very Yummy

Bye!

Waits for @Braiam to leave

tchrist

There’s a guy going through the 2009 html regex questions and flagging them as duplicates of Tony the Pony.

Read: year MMIX.

I feel like this is just making work for others.

user259867

7:50 PM

When it feels that way, it usually is.

user259867

With any luck, the flags will expire (takes 14 days) without taking too much time from others..

tchrist

With like 8k close flags to handle, it’s quite possible no one will notice those.

Present company excepted, as always. :)

Having a pre-existing PT.so before PT.se appears to have made a big difference in early site usage. About one question per 25 visits, whereas ES.se which has no ES.so and has only one new question per 3,000 visits. There may be other reasons, of course.

The French and Spanish sites are pretty dead places.

At least in light of their ~4 years of existence.

You have to have enough questions before you start getting search engine traffic though.

user259867

8:14 PM

Of two Russian sites, Русский язык gets a lot more traffic.

user259867

Despite some concerns about yandex.ru (most popular search engine in Russia) not liking SE very much.

user259867

French Language gets 5.2K VPD, which is respectable. Russian Language: 776 VPD currently.

tchrist

"not liking SE very much"?

user259867

Today's challenge: find a place to work that's (i) outdoors; (ii) away from construction; (iii) not in the middle of a wedding; (iv) has decent Wi-Fi. So far, not so good.

tchrist

You need Wi-Fi to work?

So outside is either a construction zone or a wedding zone. Those are both distracting.

Braiam

8:29 PM

anyone can see this video youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g?

user259867

@tchrist I don't have access to site analytics, but Чабановский wrote about Yandex situation on meta.ru.so

user259867

According to him, it was already pretty bad at hashcode domain, and got worse after the migration, to the point of Yandex almost not indexing the site.

Braiam

Resolution: 0 x 0

that might be a problem...

rene

@Braiam works for me, Billy Joel

tchrist

@NormalHuman Thanks.

rene

8:38 PM

and thanks to @Braiam I'm now listening to Starship - We built this city

user259867

#PM. Николай Чабановский. Внутри Stack Overflow

►

Braiam

Right Clicks > Clicks "Report playback issues" > You need to sign up in this service (me: ok) > puts password > .... > curl and cry in a corner

GnomeSlice

Nutronic - Atlas (Cosmic Zebra & Nutronics Spacehorse Remix)

►

Solid.

user259867

^^ "Inside of Stack Overflow", Chabanovsky's presentation about SO.

user259867

Somehow I don't see other CMs doing this sort of thing... it's always developers, SREs or Joel.

Braiam

8:45 PM

@NormalHuman you need 3 ^

user259867

too late... but seriously, has anyone from the set {Robert Cartaino, Shog9, Grace Note, Abby T. Miller, Jon Ericson, Pops, Ana, jmac, Tim Post} ever given a presentation about SE at an event that was recorded for posterity?

Braiam

mm... yep, any and every YT video is broken for me

Bart

@NormalHuman not that I know.

Anna Lear

@Braiam not at this stage, really. I'd like to move in that direction, but honestly all that work is independent of login.

rene

@NormalHuman Oded did something here and he said it was recorded but I can't find it yet

user259867

8:58 PM

I watched Sklivvz's presentation once, and some SREs do it.

Anna Lear

Ana just did a talk... somewhere. I forget what event that was.

user259867

~~Maybe Community Managers don't have the sort of events that sysadmins and developers do.~~

rene

@NormalHuman yeah I was just going to link to UseNix

user259867

Speaking of Ana, her entry on about/team page recently changed from Ana Hevesi to Ana Noemi...

Anna Lear

@NormalHuman that's actually not too far off the truth. community management is still a fairly new field and at a lot of companies "community manager" basically means "tech support agent"

Bart

9:00 PM

cmxhub.com/ana-noemi-community-ingredients

^ that talk?

Anna Lear

yep, that's the one

user259867

She has the old login screenshot there...

user259867

Well it's from May, so obviously.

Bart

inb4 complaint from Nicael.

Braiam

@Bart not if nobody tells @nicael about it....

Bart

9:04 PM

... and there is the ping that makes it happen

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp- rolled back

Braiam

10:01 PM

Texas man shoots armadillo, bullet ricochets back into his face http://ift.tt/1JWn7iO http://t.co/75fugCejE6

Tweeted by CBCNews on August 1, 2015 at 12:44 PM

tchrist

Qui plumbo ferit plumbo perit.

Braiam

10:16 PM

@tchrist latin? got no idea what 'plumbo' means

at first presumed french...

tchrist

You didn’t recognize plomo with an extra b? :)

Braiam

ohhh

tchrist

The ablative singular of plumbus for lead. Riffing on qui gladio ferit gladio perit: he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.

See also English plumber.

Braiam

spanish uses iron instead of sword, guess it sounds better

tchrist

I know: Quien a hierro mata, a hierro muere.

Braiam

10:20 PM

yeah, but is interesting that they changed gladio=>sword by iron

or maybe swords were known by iron at some point of time

tchrist

I think they changed it because the original Latin parallelism gets a bit lost in a cognate-based Spanish translation: ferire > herir is clear enough but perire > perecer breaks it.

I know, I know: perish the thought. :)

The Spanish version with iron made me once try to chase down some hidden connection between ferire/fereo the verb and ferrum the noun, but there is none.

A connection between wounding and iron seemed natural.

But no.

Braiam

I always thought there was

tchrist

Heh, you and me both.

Braiam

specially how we use ferreo, ferroso and hierro interchangeably

tchrist

Yeah.

The first two are of course re-imports.

Hierro is the assimilated version naturally descendent from ferrum.

But yes, it isn’t related to herir in any way I can find.

Ferrum seems to be an imported word in Latin.

I should have known that an r and an rr in the orthography signalled different ancestors, but these things are not always preserved.

Hey, I have a silly "what's your neighborhood like" question for you. If I recall, you live rather north of South America. Do you happen to use bolsa for the bags at the grocery store where you live, or do you guys use bolso for that? And does paper-versus-plastic change your answer?

Braiam

10:34 PM

@tchrist we use "funda" :P

tchrist

Pues. :(

This is one of those words that varies a great deal by locale it seems.

Braiam

I live in the caribean

and don't ask what Guagua means here :P

tchrist

Ahah.

I knew you were in a tropicalish place but thought you were on the mainland.

Spain uses bolsa for those bags, but Mexico uses bolso. Sometimes a little plastic bag is just a bolso there.

I am always surprised when I go somewhere and they ask me whether I want a sack (in English) instead of a bag.

Braiam

we don't use bolso/a as bag, in fact, the average citizen would think of scrotum rather than bag

tchrist

Ouch.

Well, it does mean that too of course.

Braiam

10:38 PM

we use funda for bags, saco for your run-of-the-mill sack

tchrist

If a perro says guau-guau, his perra says guagua. :)

Repetitious words like are often funny.

Braiam

no... what the heck is saws? saw? says? ok

tchrist

Can't type for spit.

user259867

This has been on my list for a while, but I unfortunately got sidetracked by other projects. The goal here is to make 2+ characters the new minimum name length standard and I'll see if I can bump this up on my todo list in the near future. — Anna Lear ♦ 40 mins ago

user259867

In other words, what it was on SE 1.0.

tchrist

10:43 PM

This is why now and then it helps to retag things. :)

user259867

goes to retag all his feature requests and bug reports

tchrist

@Braiam Bleck: "...words like that are often..." Half of what I’m saying I’m typing wrong or just plain ~~leaving~~ words out.

user259867

11:19 PM

> I love finding my old code…wondering what the hell I was thinking: pic.twitter.com/5RnkVS24xB -- Nick Craver at 4:05 PM - 1 Aug 2015 via Twitter

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[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title, repeating words in body: SOLVED SOLVED SOLVED SOLVED SOLVED by k1ng0 on stackoverflow.com

user259867

> Was just thinking how much I dislike something folks do on the site, and suddenly realized I'm the one that suggested it years ago #whoops -- Tim Post at 10:01 AM - 1 Aug 2015 via Twitter

Anna Lear

@NormalHuman Meh, that's before my time.

user259867

хорошо забытое прошлое :)

Anna Lear

ага, именно :)

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