So I was making a chatbot in Ruby for SE chat, and I discovered that I could find out the starrer of a message.
I'm pretty sure stars, like votes, are supposed to be anonymous. Although this knowledge would help for cases of star trolls like this.
Here's the specific slice of code that do...
At the Election Commission, we sometimes get calls from people who are trying to contact the County Health Department and they'll sit there and tell you a story about how they contracted different diseases and you're just going "Why are you telling me this???"
This is a code i did for practice. when i compile this, it wldnt allow cin >> choice to be compiled. It says "Error 2 error C2088: '>>' : illegal for class" and "Error 1 error C2371: 'choice' : redefinition; different basic types"
Can i get some advise on how to solve this? much appreciat...
@LaszloPapp The other day one chap (who had posted an answer to the same question that I'd answered) downvoted my answer citing stupid reasons. It turned out that there were problems with his answer that were evident and even commented by the OP. I cited my own reasons on his answer in a comment and downvoted it. This guy got a sock puppet to downvote mine and upvote his.
@devnull: there is a room for discussing these issues. It is sad that it is happening all around. I prefer to comment on bad answers and downvote them, but the reaction is 50+% is that the childish revenge is taking place instantly. Moreover, I now expect 1-2 downvotes every day for the next couple of days. That is what usually happens when you criticize a comment with a reason.
I do not think "being nice" is good for the goal of the site, i.e. not pointing out bad answers with explanation.
(and before someone says it might not be that person, he had 660 rep before my downvote and then his reply, and now has 557)
@devnull: we had a proposal to mandate downvote reason after 2-3 downvotes in a row, and this means only one reason per group, but people seem to be very negative, and pretend this issue does not exist daily.
@devnull: yes, that is unfortunate. It is a daily problem.
It is so sad to see this happening daily, getting many people frustrated in the process, and yet people are reluctant to address this, and keep repeating the mantra of "get over it" when they also see it is just not like that.
It is really hard to contribute with critics when people get into this personal battle most of the time when their ignorance or lack of skills are pointed out. Then, there is also the other group when you get critics rightfully, you appreciate it, you correct your answers, but then they still hold the downvotes, ah... so much for recurring and unaddressed issues.
@devnull: hah, got another downvote without reasoning. It seems that I might be the victim of puppets, too. :)
Uh, you completely misunderstood.... The provided answers alone won't help is incorrect. The other answer was already pointing that out, regardless when you happened to write this, it does not hold true anymore, hence incorrect. Your way of casting in C++ is outstanding, especially with C++11 and on. Those are the two main reasons for my downvote. However, you have not provided any critics to my answer to help with improving it, yet you downvoted. That is called revenge, and moderators seem to punish that with suspension if it happens repeatedly. Please stop this behavior right here. — Laszlo Papp1 min ago
oh, how accidental, I got another downvote for another answer, without explanation, of course.
that is three unexplained downvotes within half an hour.
But, that's the thing about voting: everyone thinks they're being upvoted because of their awesome skills and suave demeanor, while any downvotes are due to grave character flaws on the part of the voter.
I rarely see you constructive. The last couple of days, I saw you only shouting and so forth. As you can imagine that first sentence was not in any way productive.
yeah, yeah, I read your whole bitch-fest already. Full of boogiemen and victims who are you.
Be honest.
You're out there throwing out accusations you have zero evidence for, and then claiming you're doing folks a service by it. Frankly, it's disgusting.
If you care about offering useful feedback, then do that: stick to criticizing the content of the posts.
If you're gonna keep venturing into speculation as to folks' voting habits, it ain't gonna go well for you.
But, you'd already know that if you were paying attention: you managed to turn not only the author of the post you were critiquing, but several other readers against you in that thread.
first of all, I would appreciate a friendlier tone than shouting and "bitching" all around, especially when people bring up concerns, and some other people even agree about it.
Secondly, I did leave technical feedback on the comment, and the author has eventually fixed them (pretty much copying my reply).
Third, there are no "seveal other readers". There was another guy who actually left technical feedback, and that was useful, and was fixed, too.
Fourth, moderators do give suspensions for misused downvoting habits.
and it is not my "personal victim" experience as you can also read that above, or in the other channel. If you had put more effort into consideration rather than having the prejudice that these guys are always wrong, you would see this is constantly brought up by many people, not just me. I saw people even putting the same issues into their profile and suggesting behavior pattern change.
I have a lot of evidence eventually. The other days I got 10-20 downvotes without explanation within 2-3 days. H2CO3 got 10-20 downvotes similarly without explanation for 100+ answer which led him to delete his account.
@LaszloPapp Look, man. This is my job. I do this every day. And, because I take it seriously, I thoroughly checked the voting patterns of everyone involved in this before I said a word here. So when I say it's paranoia, that you have no evidence, I'm not brushing you off - I'm telling you that there's nothing to back up your fears and that you should drop them before they cause you to do something stupid.
Yes, you get the occasional downvote. From lots of different people with no connections between them. You can brush that off, or you can maybe engage in a bit of introspection and try to figure out why. You can't force random people on the internet to tell you thinks if they don't want to though, and no matter how much you wish you had that power it just ain't gonna happen.
Frankly, I don't blame them. Given the way I've seen you react to any criticism at all, I wouldn't care to explain downvotes either.
there is no point in discussing the huge downvote mess on Stack Overflow until you do not change your mind from "these people are bitching cause of their ego" to "downvotes are not helpful for the quality of the site if unexplained"
many people have told you, Shog9, that it is not about the former, but the latter, i.e. I have the same sorrow feeling when see other posts downvoted, too. But really, you still put it on the personal track for no apparent reason.
So, until you do not change it from personal complaints to how to improve the quality of the site argument, it will always get stuck at that stage without the change of proceeding.
@michaelb958: yes, including the people disagreeing with the downvote mess because it always is put on by someone as a personal offense about downvotes rather than useless meaning and measure, and hence misleading the objective measure of the posts on Stack Overflow. As others also said, even a junk downvote reason is better than no reason at all.
@michaelb958: do you also only say at your workplace, mailing list, or code review that "your stuff sucks"? How would any of the people react to that in any of those communities?
@LaszloPapp if you actually care what I think about this, go read the posts I've written about it on meta. We've been talking about this there for 4+ years now. You can start here:
In both cases, of course, no helpful comment because all that would do is reveal how spiteful and/or vindictive the downvoting was.
So why care? You've already talked yourself into believing you know who down-voted the answer and why they did so; why not just talk yourself into believing tha...
Sound familiar? There's a reason I'm a bit weary of these same tired arguments...
@LaszloPapp Look. When you communicate with people as intensely and abrasively as you tend to do, you can't expect us to build a system that nullifies human nature when people react as people do. It's that simple.
When you make people mad, they do stuff. We can't really help that.
@LaszloPapp That's because "many people" like to clump together and give each other high fives when they want to justify feeling like victims. People love jumping on bandwagons when it looks like it will give them an easy way to externalize their problems, and never grow because they don't reflect and own their issues. Occupy Downvotes doesn't really get anywhere...
Please show examples about my technical criticism and corresponding downvotes. Now, I would like to see it, really.
Let us see the aforementioned example:
"Which is what was already written in one of the provided answers... Perhaps you were not reading the edits? Also, choice = (options)temp; is not the best way to cast in C++... when you have static_cast, but I do not think any cast is needed here anyway. Also, please refrain from childish downvote revenge when you get a downvote with an explanation provided."
initially it was:
"Which is what was already written in one of the provided answers... Perhaps you were not reading the edits? Also, choice = (options)temp; is not the best way to cast in C++... when you have static_cast, but I do not think any cast is needed here anyway."
Beat that technical comment if you can.
Let us see the other from today:
"This is not always applicable in Qt, and that is why the Qt smart pointers exist. As far as I am aware, the OP was asking directly for smart pointers (i.e. unique pointer, etc). By the way, if you feel the question is duplicated, flagging so is the right way. Answers are not meant for marking a question duplicate. My -1 is for the latter critic, not the former."
What is wrong about those, really? I cannot see any issues.
and fwiw, my alternative answers got highly upvoted for those answers while they remained unupvoted.
@TimPost: show me what I could have written better there, and how I could have provided better contribution than good answers.
And yes, Stack Overflow could help with avoiding mad reactions from people not standing valid critics.
mailing lists, projects, bosses, etc... they all help with that in a healthy environment.
I am happy that the community decided to give 10 upvotes for the two questions within a short while regardless the early unexplained "suspicious" downvotes. This is a positive thing from the community, and one of the bad answer authors already removed his answer.
Yep, I'm just going to make sure the target tags exist, we can sort it out on the much smaller-scale child meta.
@LaszloPapp Oh if only there was some kind of visual mass tag editor. Man, I'd pay good money for that.
The last split I did was AVP and Sound Design, if you go look at the tags on sound, ugh - gonna take a year to dig out of that mess, and I was careful.
Those LinkedIn endorsements are crap though @LaszloPapp. Mary has endorsed you for "needlepoint" ... wait what? Jeff has endorsed you for "Computer Vision" ... ok, correct, but Jeff doesn't know a thing about CV nor my capabilities, so why is he endorsing me.
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Bah. All mods should get mod privs in here, too. Not being able to edit messages forever is annoying. :p
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@TimPost I am about to start one of my milestone style post, but I anticipate a lot of downvotes, may I request that a negatively voted question/answer to be disassociated from my account if I get question banned in advance? (the likelihood is small but I am not taking any chances). The new post isn't a troll.
A little background- my daughter has never had a boyfriend/girlfriend or relationship and is in 8th grade. She has always been young for her age and had a tough time identifying with other girls and kids at her school (we had issues of bullying- mostly to her being shy) in which we switched her s...
@devnull I just looked at the title, expecting spam/Baba. Anyway, has anyone already proposed to filter the list to only include an user selected subset of sites??
@telkitty.exe If you're just expressing an idea that is genuine but potentially unpopular, I'm good with that. As long as it's something you actually believe in.
It's in place on MSO to prevent chronic trolling - e.g. lots of "this is all a big conspiracy" and nothing else of value coming from someone.
@Bart MSE does. Child meta sites do not, at least not yet - and I doubt Shog and I would ever sign off on setting them on. If someone is being a total crank on a child meta, the thing to do is just suspend their primary account (which is also the deterrent for said crainkness)
@LaszloPapp just a little notice here, since the discussion about downvotes, aliens, patterns and such is still going. First of all, let me precisate that there is a reason if I removed myself from the other discussion room (even if I created it in the first place) and that is that I get there is no more need to discuss the problem that board was discussing since the only thing we can agree on is that our views won't change.
That said - sorry if I don't have the time to read all the current discussion but please keep that discussion room out of your considerations. Continue talking how lon…
Say I know beforehand that I'm going to hit repcap today. What if I offer a bounty of 100 on a question? Does it mean I'd get the reputation from 10 more upvotes after having hit repcap?
@AmalMurali Don't bother about suggested edits getting approved. If robo reviewers were to be banned from reviewing, then you won't have anybody to review.
hmm, I removed an answer where I lost 30 reputation with it. I wonder if I can earn that with three upvotes today even though I already got at least 20+ upvotes?
I've lost 10 reputation because of user was removed for the first time today and I'm just wondering, why there 10 points don't affect +200 daily reputation limit?
To describe what I'm talking about just a bit more, I've got 4 accepted answers today, so I'm able to receive 260 reputation points t...
Try to use this:
GOOGLEPR::getPageRank('http://stackoverflow.com/');
Class:
class GOOGLEPR
{
CONST SOURCE = 'http://toolbarqueries.google.com/';
public function __construct()
{ }
/**
* Function for set domain for search
*
* return Bool
*/
static function getPageRank($...
Nice solution alexey. Clever use of bitwise shifts. How long did it take you to code this up? — Amal Murali3 mins ago
when in the end "nothing happened" from their point of view.
@michaelb958: do I get a notification about the -1 again though? I am asking this because litereally thousands of posts were deleted with my downvote, and I imagine some of them came back in the end, but I cannot recall a notification for such an activity.
@LaszloPapp Oh, probably not. We all know about the annoying little policy of not notifying users about rep losses. (For what it's worth, I think that policy is a Bad Idea.)
The rep history? I don't know. I haven't had a post go through that cycle before.
@Bart: Many sources, I am not sure which. Googling for "Mining PageRank is AGAINST GOOGLE'S TERMS OF SERVICE. Yes, I'm talking to you, scammer." (with the quotes) lists a few sites.
>How long did it take you to code this up? I wrote this code long enough, I do not remember how long it took. Thank you for your kind words :) — alexey palamar17 mins ago
If I can identify an original source, then you can check for license and give proper attribution or take other actions. If it's content that's all over the intarwebz, that gets particularly difficult
I can't see a moderator taking action on this without a clear source
@alexeypalamar some users have raised a concern with your code not being entirely your own. I can see similar code online, but can't determine an original source. If you have taken code from somewhere or were particularly inspired by it, perhaps include some attribution of your sources. That would help and take away any concerns. Just a hint, see what you do with it. ;) — Bart10 secs ago
@TimPost: Should I just repost the zombie tag FAQ or is that a post that should be migrated too? I'm thinking it still has a place on MSE, but fixed to talk in general SE terms.
If you have a look at this I vote closed as unclear but left a comment to ask for clarification mainly because I thought DJ KRAZE jumped to a conclusion. Now the OP has accepted my answer. Is the question closed based on the wrong sentiment?
If the OP edits in the response on my comment could the question be re-openend?
Or should we leave it at this...closed but answered.
@AmalMurali I'm seeing it. I'm theorising it's the table-based layout. The left column has upvote, score, downvote, accepted-mark; there's just one line of text in the right column.
Captchas aren't working when I try to post to stackoverflow.com/questions/…. I get the Human Verification pop-up, but the animated ellipsis under the photo is never replaced with an actual captcha. Anyone else having this issue, or should I reload Firefox?
When I tried to run How many upvotes do I have for each tag?, I got the below screen:
The captcha is missing! I tried in other browsers too.
Update:
From @Oded's comments, I changed to HTTP and it was working perfectly. Out of curiosity I would like to know why the captcha isn't working ...
There are already many threads on this, don't loose your time and save the planet with less bytes on hard drives thanks all. And, I agree with @Roberto Reale for the JSON idea.
@MartijnPieters: yes, but I would need to see my reputation changing from X to X-1.
So I was making a chatbot in Ruby for SE chat, and I discovered that I could find out the starrer of a message.
I'm pretty sure stars, like votes, are supposed to be anonymous. Although this knowledge would help for cases of star trolls like this.
Here's the specific slice of code that do...
Meta Stack Overflow doesn't like me; I can't seem to keep my points. How can I post better and be well-received?
This is a code i did for practice. when i compile this, it wldnt allow cin >> choice to be compiled. It says "Error 2 error C2088: '>>' : illegal for class" and "Error 1 error C2371: 'choice' : redefinition; different basic types"
Can i get some advise on how to solve this? much appreciat...
In both cases, of course, no helpful comment because all that would do is reveal how spiteful and/or vindictive the downvoting was.
So why care? You've already talked yourself into believing you know who down-voted the answer and why they did so; why not just talk yourself into believing tha...
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When Meta Stack Exchange finally split from Meta Stack Overflow (yay!), the shiny new Meta's icon was revealed to be the same as the icon used for stackexchange.com. This makes it a bit hard to tell which tabs are on which site by scanning the tab list. (It also made my Firef...
Try to use this:
GOOGLEPR::getPageRank('http://stackoverflow.com/');
Class:
class GOOGLEPR
{
CONST SOURCE = 'http://toolbarqueries.google.com/';
public function __construct()
{ }
/**
* Function for set domain for search
*
* return Bool
*/
static function getPageRank($...
I'll have a go at saying the queen is the only piece that cannot reveal a discovered check.
When I tried to run How many upvotes do I have for each tag?, I got the below screen:
The captcha is missing! I tried in other browsers too.
Update:
From @Oded's comments, I changed to HTTP and it was working perfectly. Out of curiosity I would like to know why the captcha isn't working ...
There are already many threads on this, don't loose your time and save the planet with less bytes on hard drives thanks all. And, I agree with @Roberto Reale for the JSON idea.
