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Hi guys

Many times I got said that people on meta can be harsh as folks with torchs :p

@Revious that's right.

Stijn

Dem meta folks nuthin' but trouble!

I believe that it shouldn't be the winning of the harsher (q-ban on meta let them silence who they don't like) and instead I strongly believe in conversation and comparison

what's your opinion on that?

2:38 PM

@Revious I also would like world peace but that's just not how things work, for good or for bad.

I thought that wikifiyng some questions could help a lot :-)

Meta rules are not going to change, so you'll have to adapt yourself at some point.

A: How to get path of file dragged into Win32 app and delete it?

10k reviewers are probably bots. The following answer that was flagged as NAA was marked disputed as a result:

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Here is a good example.

I don't like folks with torchs, we cannot pretend them to go to a psychologyst :) but we can take away the fuel that gives them so much power

@Revious Think of yourself as a thin branch on a tree. There is a strong wind. You can either bend and adjust yourself, waiting for the wind to pass, or you might break.

2:41 PM

@ShadowWizard yes, I'm not speaking of changing rules, but to find someone who thinks that folks with torchs are not a good thing

and wikifies some questions

@ShadowWizard Are you a poet?

wikified = folks disarmed = dialogue = vantages bound to dialogue

@devnull I wrote some love songs when I was a teenager, does it count? :D

@ShadowWizard I'm not surprised :P

@Revious umm... no. what give you that impression?

Having downvotes on wiki posts will still cause a post ban.

2:42 PM

@ShadowWizard for the initial author of the post?

@Revious indeed. Downvote is downvote, regardless of the effect on reputation.

@ShadowWizard do you agree that this system is discouraging any possibility of dialogue?

@Revious we've been there..... and what I think is not relevant as there's no way to change the system in the way you want.

Stijn

@devnull Looks like an answer to me.

@ShadowWizard what do you mean by saying: "we've been there"?

@ShadowWizard: I think you share some of my POV

2:47 PM

I mean we discussed those exact things over and over, and over yet again, in the recent past.

I even created a room for you, you discussed it with others and even with SE employee in there.

@Stijn Maybe. Seemed like a comment to me.

What more do you want, @Revious?

@ShadowWizard: yes, I remember but at that time I was still too much pretentious

I would like you to say: "revious is not completely saying stupid things"

in front of other guys

I'm pretty sure you agree on what I'm saying.. no one can say a folks with torchs is good and dialogue is not. Let's join the efforts

@Revious what you say makes sense. It's not good to flame, it's not good to be harsh toward people.

@ShadowWizard great!!!!!!!!!

2:51 PM

But like I, and many others in the past, try to explain, that's how things are and we can't change human nature or Meta rules. (well, we can change rules, but not in the way you suggest)

@ShadowWizard yes, I know we can't change human nature, but asking other people to reflect on some small things would help a lot

let's try in a gradual way

we could open a room for example

start collecting evidence

ask for advice to moderator

Anna Lear is really available on that

hey everyone !

hey @TGMCians!

@Revious you have enough reputation to create new chat rooms on Meta. Nothing is stopping you, when you do it post link here and those who want will come and join.

Shadow, 25 upvotes - Answer : Blah blah My flag : helpful, wow !

@TGMCians cheers!

3:04 PM

yeah

Mega fast response - that's nice to have. :)

hmm

20 minutes to EoD, should I make myself a final coffee?

@Revious that's your problem, not the bounty

Shadow, you can go and enjoy

I take coffee one time in a day

3:14 PM

@ShadowWizard mine with milk please...

Yes Shadow for me also :P , that I can also :)

I had 4 hours of sleep. HAND OVER ALL OF THE COFFEE AND NOBODY WILL GET HURT

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probably

You can have mine... phewww

drama meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/227328/…

@JanDvorak yeah, it delayed my coffee! grr...

3:28 PM

@ShadowWizard but you did get coffee, didn't you?

Thanks for actually proving what a ridiculous "troll fest" this site has become. I'm glad that there are so many expert critiques on the actual subject, since you all obviously know how to correctly answer the question given. Well done all. — Neil Lunn 1 min ago

That's for you, @rene

is that chocolate in the coffee? Let me try that someday

@JanDvorak you're a mind reader?! The one I was just uploading is with chocolate icecream.

No give it to @AnnaLear she needs it....@ShadowWizard

And that's for you, @AnnaLear ^^

3:30 PM

you're the best

That is nice...

@Anna so with chocolate, right? :D

Now that all is good in the world I can go home happily

Shadow, mine :P ?

Louis

[tag:cv-pls] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/22765069/is-require-js-useful-in-jquery-based-website-development
So opinion-based it's not even funny.

@Louis it does try to be objective, doesn't it?

Voted anyways

Louis

3:35 PM

@JanDvorak If the OP wants to be objective the OP can remove the opinion-based bits.

And thanks for the votes.

@TGMCians oh sorrry! Share it with @rene perhaps? ;)

lol

he has finished before you said :P

Oh great, now I'll be late for home. Meta effect but at least I have traffic jams to blame!

You can have it, it is empty

@rene recycle the cup

3:37 PM

Yep, out the window...

@ShadowWizard pro-tip: handle the meta-delay and traffic jams at the same time. Alternate driving and browsing.

Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, and I can't be held responsible for any traffic jams you may or may not cause.

3:56 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/22766275/…

4:33 PM

@AnnaLear you still here? Maybe you want to look into this? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/227328

@ShadowWizard Nah. The mods got it.

5:23 PM

Anyone around here ?

meagar

... Yes?

Q: Merge [virtual-method] into [virtual-functions]

Well

Quick Question : A minimum reputation required for chat here is 20, so once user have 20 then he can start chat here, but suppose meanwhile user get two downvotes then his reputation would be 16, but I see he is still able to chat

Any reason why

Any strong reason do you have @AnnaLear , don't mind to ping you :)

abatishchev

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Tag virtual-method (122) looks to me identical to virtual-functions (441). They both have similar wikis: A virtual method is a method whose behavior can be overridden within an inheriting class by a function with the same signature. and In object-oriented programming, a virtual functi...

No idea off the top of my head. Probably because they're already in the room? Also possibly because chat lags behind the sites and might not recognize the rep change right away.

Also, for chat.stackexchange.com, that's network-wide rep, not per-site. (Although chat.so and chat.meta only look at SO and MSO rep, respectively.)

@AnnaLear Yes, he is already in Gallery room and on chat.so

5:30 PM

This question and this one are duplicates. I think they should be merged. Thoughts?

@AmalMurali the first one has way more views than the second... I hesitate to merge (and then eventually have the merge stub deleted), since it's apparently bringing viewers in.

not too worried about it since the answers are identical on both either way.

Oh How this user has 19 reputation on SO ?

@AnnaLear: Ah, right. So leave them as they are?

@TGMCians: Linkspls

@TGMCians profile link please

GnomeSlice

@TGMCians 19 is not exactly a lot.

5:36 PM

5+5+10-5-2 = 19 ?

@AnnaLear stackoverflow.com/users/487770/…

should I ask on meta

@TGMCians nah, give me a sec

Okay no problem

You're not seeing deleted questions on that rep tab.

There was an upvote on this deleted question that was preserved when the question was removed because the question (and the vote) was over 60 days old at the time of deletion.

So it's actually 1+5+5+5+10-5-2 = 19 (you also forgot the starting 1 reputation that everyone has)

Everyone starts being number one and then slowly falls low enough to earn more privileges

@AnnaLear Oh I can not see deleted question of others yet, only have 8K on SO yet

but Nice ! Thanks !

5:42 PM

@3ventic ha

You can't see deleted posts in reputation tab with 10k either

then only mod can see ?

I think so, yes.

So... Unix guys, help me please. How can I check if I'm using Google DNS currently? Tried nslookup <my.ip.he.re> but that didn't work.

ifconfig ?

Q: What DNS servers am I using?

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How can I check which DNS server am I using (in Linux)? I am using network manager and a wired connection to my university's LAN. (I am trying to find out why my domain doesn't get resolved)

linux debian networking dns

Does that work?

5:46 PM

@AnnaLear Is there any link so that I can see this history ?

@TGMCians no, since you're not a moderator.

It's not exactly Unix but it might be helpful

Okay Anna

@AmalMurali Try dig

it works

@TGMCians: Can you be a little more specific?

see the link ^

5:48 PM

linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_dig.htm

@3ventic: That one was helpful. Thanks! I found out my mistake.

dig command in linux : DNS lookup utility

# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
nameserver 127.0.1.1

you are running a local dns server?

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/22732900/…

done

brb

6:09 PM

done, too

6:58 PM

@TGMCians: Finally, fixed the issue. nmcli dev list iface <interfacename> | grep IP4 was what I needed :P Now I can load pastebin.com as before \o/

7:34 PM

great @AmalMurali

I need someone to explain this Unicoin thing and where I can find it.

@AnnaLear OK, it just looks like the OP there is really upset and maybe (big maybe) having a CM response will calm him down.

@Undo oh my, so this is real?!

Thought it's just trolling by kitty

I DON'T KNOW!!!!

that's why I need it explained :P

Don't tell me you got pawned by kitty!

Okay, I'm starting a server in Japan so that I can tunnel through it :P

7:43 PM

Should I do my April fools joke today?

@Undo first 100 Unicoin belongs to me :D

Or wait until April fools in US

Anyone remember when the Expert first appeared last year?

I am now in Tokyo

Ok gtg because school

7:45 PM

hmmm...

yeah, this is real.

@Undo where do you see this? no repro here. Report a bug on Meta! :D

Had to open Incognito.

Q: What is "chat with an expert"?

Anyway, the expert first appeared at 17:48 UTC time last year

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A box just comes out of nowhere which says "chat with an expert". It happened once on Stack Overflow and once on Meta. Is this an ad? Isn't Meta supposed to have no ads? Here's the HTML for that weird box: <div id="adviza-box" style="width: 380px; "> <div id="adviza-status"> <img ...

support april-fools experts fun

ThiefMaster

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A: What is stackoverflow unicone?

No. Unicoins are absolutely serious. They'll be used to buy rep in the future.

Now it's 19:48 so April Fools should start

7:49 PM

yeah

So there's this thing where you mine them by clicking really fast on rocks.

builds automatic rock-clicker

rofl

Unicoins? :D

yeah

I found a way to cheat

... do you have to change the timezone @Undo?

Oh my, it's totally real

7:53 PM

yeah

bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392204.0

and I had to use Incognito.

@ShadowWizard ... so we get real money? :D

@hichris123 not sure about that, more likely the team didn't notice same word already exists ;)

:D

> Not legal tender except in localities with citizenship rights for unicorns.

crap, it works :(

works on hacking the mining mechanism

8:03 PM

changes date to April 1st

balpha

@ShadowWizard we didn't care -- that Unicoin is DOA (jump ahead a few pages in that forum thread), ours is awesome

cya

Q: What are Stack Overflow unicoins?

2

Recently I saw a widget on stack overflow website which says stackoverflow now has it's own currency called "unicoins" according this widget user can earn reputation, Customize stackoverflow by changing it's colors user can also remove vote down button from their questions and answers by spending...

discussion fun unicorns april-fools

^ Can someone retag that to unicoins?

Sklivvz

8:19 PM

@Undo that would definitely cheat RSI, that's for sure

Manishearth

@Undo uh, you can directly do that by spoofing requests

function mine(){$.get('http://meta.stackoverflow.com/unicoin/rock',function(data){setTime‌out(function(){$.post('http://meta.stackoverflow.com/unicoin/mine?rock='+data.roc‌k,{fkey:StackExchange.options.user.fkey})},5000) });};setInterval(mine,11000);

jadarnel27

You could also just pay a college student to click the rock for you for really cheap.

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Richard Tingle

8:46 PM

Feature request: April fools posts that aren't devastatingly dull

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@RichardTingle I have a great one, but I want to wait until tomorrow (so it's the right day for most US people)

Q: Is there an uncertainty principle of programming (Heisenburg's Principle)

8:59 PM

You know what, I'm just going to wait until April 1 UTC and then post.

Jason C

10:02 PM

-2

I sometimes feel like the uncertainty principle applies in programming. I have sometimes noticed that things seem to change when examined. Sometimes, the life or death of a program seems to solely on one print statement. Its like what Heisenberg said, how by examining the object, we actually c...

java cookies heisenbug computer-science-theory

"This question appears to be off-topic because wow, man."

"It is not an uncertainty principle, it is that you suck at programming." <- Haha, burn.

I love that it was tagged cookies.

Mmm... cookies!

Jason C

@hichris123 Careful, they might not be cookies any more after you taste them. :O

10:23 PM

^ What is the meaning of meta? :P

TimWolla

@hichris123 Murder?

3

That's what I thought! :D

10:42 PM

That's a proper use of the Unicoins:

animuson

My foot hurts. Someone give me a foot massage.