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00:15
@Bart I'm trying to learn Spanish, which is why I was asking how you learned English.
I'm trying out Rosetta Stone. I like it so far.
00:46
wait, bart know spanish?
01:36
I think I just got quasiserial downvoted
Unfortunately it isn't enough to trigger the unserialvote script
@Braiam Haha, perhaps my statement was misleading =P
 
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06:18
Ah cool @jadarnel27. I'm currently trying out Duolingo. Don't know how effective it will be, but it might be worth a try.
07:13
@hichris123 well, he deleted it himself again.
@Bart but Bart is not a Dutch name...
07:37
@RUJordan Answer me ! — crypticous 3 mins ago
what do I do when a user starts to spam you?
The notifications are getting annoying
Thanks @JanDvorak
@RUJordan as @Jan said flag those comments, if the user persists beyond a reasonable limit (e.g. 20 comments) flag as "other" and mention this, the user should get suspended to stop him.
"20 comments"? I'd flag as "not constructive" a bit sooner than that
even three comments are annoying already
but yeah, 20 comments should lead to suspension
@Jan of course, but moderators won't always see it's all from same user so we need to nudge them in the right direction.
As for the question you linked to it says "is there is any tool or site" so yeah, totally rec-tool
07:51
Morning
Evening.
TROLOLOLOL
@JanDvorak check the JS chat.. the guy found me...
lol
@ShadowWizard It kinda is. Or at the very least it's not an uncommon name.
So you say Bart is a generic, modular, name, @Bart?
@RUJordan if he's offensive in there it can be easily handled by a mod
Yep @ShadowWizard. I do get the whole "so your are really Bartholomew, right?" deal quite often. But I'm just Bart. No other names either.
08:24
@Bart Very short and simple, you should be proud of your parents! ;)
Hey, getting people to hear and spell Kevelham right is difficult enough. Let's keep the first name simple. ;)
But Kevelham sounds so tasty, like exquisite ham! :D
I wish I could say you were original. ;)
08:43
Maybe Arqade would be a more appropriate place, but just for notice...
seems there is a survey going for KH3.
if anyone wants to give it a look...
(info taken from ign)
Hmm I missed the morning train by almost an hour...
Yeah, @michaelb958 trolled it away :(
We will troll back...someday...
Revenge is best served cold, @rene? ;-)
08:59
cooked to order
That's a fine meaning for CTO
poor Neil Lunn
Not so poor, just learning the hard way
I can only flag (which I did)
@rene oh, you should really be more active on Meta to get The Power :D
I'm trying! I even went for a bounty but Rachel didn't like my answer enough to grant it... :(
flagged
@JanDvorak you flagged @rene's answer?? ;)
09:38
nope
the question you linked
lol
@rene you know, that answer is good. Think I'll start a new bounty there!
I rather see it implemented so I can imagine that Rachel didn't want it to be bountied.
Which I anticipated when I wrote that answer BTW
Well, no harm in another bounty then. :)
10:06
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Q: How to determine if user is moderator or not?

NimeshI am just wondering that How do I know if a user moderator or not? Is there any flag or mark so, I can determine that is user moderator?

Chances are that there will be a feature request to provide an API: boolean isModerator(uid)
10:16
Why do I check the accounts of users who ask these questions?
Because you're getting as suspicious as I am @rene?
It must be your (bad?) influence...
> This account is temporarily suspended for voting irregularities. The suspension period ends in 3 days
Because of this, @rene?
Didn't want to call it out...
It's public anyway
At least it's not like that case of user asking something like "How was the DDoS attack handled" then turned out to be the one behind it ;)
10:24
Social engineering is one of the best hack methods
I think Phishing has a better success rate
Yeah, for the masses. In a corperate setting I prefer social engineering...
user202362
Moderators have red diamonds next to their names, I could not but thinking to myself ... are they blood diamonds?
Only those obtained in the war zone that is MSO
10:57
Programming questions happen in the weirdest places...
Welcome to Stack Apps. This question is not on-topic here; this site is about the Stack Exchange API, and apps built on it. This question also needs major improvement before you post it on, for example, Stack Overflow; we expect minimal, complete, testable, readable examples, not massive code dumps with little to no explanation. If you can identify a specific problem, provide as little code as possible to demonstrate it, and explain what exactly's wrong, this might be okay at Stack Overflow. Until then, it's not suitable anywhere on Stack Exchange. — michaelb958 34 secs ago
@rene Yes, in a corporate environment they make use of legacy (rotten) tools which makes the job much easier.
Also, you know what needs to burn? does.
Didn't we have a metapost on that?
I think I already did some retagging on that...
11:13
Yeah, we had a go already.
How do you mark a lazy question as a duplicate of the other if the other doesn't have an answer? :)
You answer the other one.
@Bart Are you sure that those should be answered?
if they shouldn't, then don't go the duplicate route
Gah, why on earth go for a custom close reason there? So useless
Thanks @devnull. That was the proper reason.
11:26
cv?
It's already closed
huh?
duh... delete vote..plz
:D
Give me enough rep and I'll join in. ;)
@rene wasted a vote (to delete)
tnx
11:43
Hi
How many days moderator takes to see the flagged question
As much days as they need?
really?
They try to handle them as quickly as possible but sometimes it takes a while
I have been waiting since Mar 4
Is there a particular flag that is not handled yet for you?
I've seen reports here of people waiting 4 months...
11:48
This one
0
Q: ERROR unknown type 0x0 (glSizeof,73)

SridharI don't know what type of error is this. It is continuously displaying in logcat. Question What type of error is this? Why it occurs? How to solve this error

What kind of flag did you use?
off-topic
someone done
thanks
I just voted to close
Is there a meta post on how the actual close reason is selected when a question gets closed?
Majority wins, no?
I'm not sure...
11:58
if majority selects off-topic then some of the selected off-topic reasons are specified separately
There is a meta about it I'm sure
I'll see if I can find it
I recall that someone mentioned that the last vote was the reason selected.
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Q: Close Vote Reason Logic When There Isn't a Majority

chue xI voted to close this question. It has actually been closed with this reason: "Questions must demonstrate a minimal understanding of the problem being solved. Tell us what you've tried to do, why it didn't work, and how it should work. See also: Stack Overflow question checklist" – Blorgbeard...

@SuhosinPony Since I started working on this SharePoint server I have got this strange drawing on my arm. It shows the sharepoint logo with a steam engine and some coal..... should I worry?
It's duped but the answer isn't mentioned in the FAQ it's duped to. Annoying.
If it is a tie the last vote is the decider
@3ventic tnx
@3ventic Maybe edit that in?
12:09
site sidebar just proposed me this question
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Q: How to stop feeling guilty about the unfinished work?

ff524My biggest challenge as a PhD student is best summarized by the following from PHD Comics: "Piled Higher and Deeper" by Jorge Cham www.phdcomics.com A consequence of working in research is that the end is never in sight - unlike other jobs, there is always more work for you to do. I am prett...

The weird thing is that I get this same feeling everytime
"there is always more work for you to do"
@SPArchaeologist Sharepoint is scary
Doing a PhD @SPArchaeologist?
@Bart. Nope, just clients that asks for an airplane and then try to turn it to a submarine halfway trough.
Hahaha, that surely sounds familiar
@SuhosinPony SharePoint : human = this farm : Cthul
12:14
@SPArchaeologist My client asked for an airplane and turned it into a space station :(
@SPArchaeologist well, you must admit they are smart. They need a submarine to find the airplane after it crash.
But since hes paying by the hour, I dont care :P
@ShadowWizard why do you assume it will crash while flying over water? Let it fall on a mountain - I have provided some inflatable rubber boats just for that.
If a question is on hold for being too broad, and it is then edited to ask a completely different question, should I vote to reopen?
(it turned up in the reopen review queue)
@SuhosinPony I was thinking the same long time ago. Then, after some Zalgoed projects, I changed my view.
12:19
@Stijn if there are no answers then yes, that would be fine
@ShadowWizard OK, thanks.
@michaelb958 I dropped it below 100... wasted my 7 delete votes on it and some CV, the rest is yours
12:38
I could broadcast today's listening from Grooveshark :P
@SuhosinPony Wait wait wait... do you mean it is not this?
@SPArchaeologist I like Mandopony
I say that's today's listening, but I'll probably just be listening to this again. I'm addicted.
12:57
Is this spam in disguise?
I'd say it's an honest attempt at demonstration @rene.
I don't see how it addresses the question
Hmm, I'm getting oversensitive...
It doesn't @3ventic but it's not spam either
Just crappy answer of someone who is using Google Custom Search
(voted to delete)
13:02
@GnomeSlice "Each track created using two original Nintendo Gameboys running Little Sound DJ " nice
@SPArchaeologist Yeah man
I wonder if....
YEP. Seems someone had the courage to do that.
Never played Electroplankton, but I always wanted to
@GnomeSlice Played as in "I play the guitar" right? that game is not a game...
Yeah, but you still play with it
13:08
@Bart I've never heard of DuoLingo, but I may check it out if Rosetta Stone doesn't work out.
High quality...
@jadarnel27 It's pretty cool. Somewhat styled like a game with goals and progress and such. And it's free. I feel like you do really have to keep up with it on a daily basis though.
13:16
You only know for sure once they become active...
@Bart Ah, that sounds cool. Rosetta Stone is notably not free. But it does have some cool little games. I also like the "immersive" approach - English is never spoken in any of the lessons, every new thing is learned through pictures, audio, and context.
So you never get "Hello = Hola." Instead, you get, say, a picture of two people shaking hands, and a sound clip of someone saying "hola."
Okay, that's pretty cool indeed.
Indeed! We shall see if it was $250 worth of cool.
I agree, though, that it's super helpful to keep up with doing a little bit of something with the new language everyday.
@ShadowWizard Seems to be fond of GUIDs.
13:32
@jadarnel27 babadum.com
CC @Bart
The kind of gold that sometimes appears on the hot network questions list...
Sorry @3ventic but nothing beat this
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Q: How do I use a shit nugget?

AssylumWhen you go to the toilet, there is a mini game where you can press out a shit nugget and use it to attack your enemies. In one of the first fights, I was unable to use it though. So how exactly do you use the turd nugget during a fight?

13:47
Question about Dire AIDS incoming..
Ooh, I love that band
@ShadowWizard nethack had this one.
256
Q: How can I tell if a corpse is safe to eat?

Larry WangI am playing a human wizard, and I just killed a monster, leaving a corpse on the ground. How do I tell whether it is safe to eat this corpse? I leave the monster unspecified because I am interested in "how can I figure out whether this is edible," rather than whether any particular monster is e...

has a lot of inappropriate-when-taken-out-of-context questions about wives..
@3ventic @ShadowWizard and we are still in time to create a question revolving around Curly underwear from Cave Story. Not that I really feel the need to.
14:07
@GnomeSlice Whatever that website is, it's blocked by my corporate firewall thingamajig.
Please have a look at my SO profile -- I think I'm being "tactically" downvoted. What do you guys think?
Not much evidence I'd say. What makes you think so?
Or how do you define "tactical"?
@AmalM I feel like a rememeber you bringing this up before. Have you reached out to the SE team (via the "contact us" form)?
If it's something that concerns you, and has been going on for a while, there is no harm in bringing it to them.
@jadarnel27: Yeah. I was wondering if I should.
14:15
When did the downvotes start? What date?
Okay, I'll e-mail them. That has the same effect as "Contact us" form, right?
Yeah, just use the form.
The suspicious one, that you're concerned about.
@jadarnel27: A few weeks ago. They're all on questions.
Myeah, free downvotes
14:16
I think some people use questions for "revenge-downvotes" as they won't lose any reputation for that.
On your SO account?
Just contact the team @AmalMurali. Clearly explain what you're seeing and what you think might be happening. They will be able to check and see if anything is going on. Not even mods can do that for you.
rene, please cv if you can on the question which I post above
already did...
thnx
I want to close it for now
otherwise that guy will see and can write this.
> There is no api to do so in android, I had Similar Query
Still did not get any satisfied answer
If you get any clue/suggestions than let me know
like this
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A: Android Conference and Hold Call Programmatically

AღmirkhanThere is no api to do so in android, I had Similar Query Still did not get any satisfied answer If you get any clue/suggestions than let me know

14:23
@rene: Yes.
@Bart: Will do that! :)
@AmalMurali keep in mind that you are able to gain more rep in an hour then the trolls can downvote you in a day... don't let it bother you too much...
14:46
I just wrote an answer that referenced the java language specs about what the < operator does.
As if it wasn't an almost universally recognized symbol that is the same in any language.
Hello, I can't find a better place to ask this: why don't Careers 2.0 listings show a salary?
@NewWorld That seems like a good question for meta.careers.stackoverflow.com
@New
@TheGuywithTheHat no such site
@ShadowWizard shhhhh
14:48
Careers support goes on meta stack overflow
whoops, I find it rare that salary is posted on any job posting
@Andy: That URL doesn't exist
@NewWorld because many times salary is customized per the employee
@ShadowWizard Don't you get paid by the role you fill, i.e. what is in the job description?
You can write new question on Meta tagged and ask this to get more official answer if you want.
14:50
Good idea, thank you all
@NewWorld before you post, see this, it might give you the answer you want
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Q: There should be more advanced search engine on Careers including "display with salary only" option

YodaI feel that it is dismissive when companies do not post offered salary for the job, especially when they offer relocation. It is very annoying when they have very specified requirements from the applicant and when it comes to the paragraph where they should say what they offer it starts to get v...

Users flagging sandbox answers as NAA... sigh.
I'm starting to want 10k on mso..
@ShadowWizard That is where the sandbox is for, isn't it?
@rene very true.
And now the blue square with 1 inside it is going to sit there for hours, staring at me.
Be my guest, but it won't affect me, @rene ;)
10k tools show only post flags
@3ventic only 6606 more to go!
15:18
@ShadowWizard Thanks for the link
15:32
> Your Amazon.co.uk order of "Tales of Symphonia..." has been dispatched
:-)
@ShadowWizard Already there.
@ShadowWizard Colette nendoroid says hello.
Yeah, I know I'm slow on games. Cheers!
Ehm, what's up with George's recent massive answers deletions on meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/10857 ?
Some of them are not great, but what's the point there?
It's a faq, @Bart so it should, ideally, have one canonical answer
Ah, glanced over that.
15:40
I noticed this before the deletion and thought to flag but didn't, maybe he read my mind. ;)
At least it's down to 12 canonical answers now ... ;)
It still needs lots of work to write a true canonical answer, think 500 rep bounty will do the work?
@ShadowWizard yep, it was just a way to imply that I had gone for the collector edition :P
@SPArchaeologist to be honest I don't remember the original game, played it years ago
Using emulator, lol
16:16
@jadarnel27 It's a neat little game designed to help you learn languages.
16:37
-1
A: Interview question: f(f(n)) == -n

Alexint f(int x){ if (x < 0) return x; return ~x+1; //two's complement }

geez
154 answers
@SPArchaeologist Do you like my cutie mark crusader?
Argh, you grrr ... freaking users deleting their questions while I'm answering them.
Ah well, I guess my initial comment was clear enough.
17:05
Could someone ping me in a moment, once I leave the room?
I need a notification so I can test something.
@TheGuywithTheHat Have you checked your name?
Doesn't seem to work
17:27
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Q: Why does chat profile reputation seem inconsistent?

3venticThe reputation on chat.SE is supposed to be all your 200+ rep accounts' reputation combined. Now why is it that Jon Skeet's chat profile does not include his MSO reputation, but otherwise includes all 200+ rep accounts' reputation (including SO, of course)? My chat profile does include all my 20...

18:13
Happy Monday everbody!
To any mod - I recently deleted a few accounts on the SE network that I didn't want anymore. But for some reason, my User Experience account is still active. Is there a reason that account won't go away?
I don't think you can delete accounts that have..
...
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Q: How can I delete my account?

SauronHow can I delete my Stack Exchange account(s) and what happens to content I've posted when my account gets deleted? For more information, see "How do I delete my account?" in the Help Center. Return to FAQ index

18:16
I requested to delete like 4 or 5 accounts, and all of them have been deleted except the User Experience. Did I make a mistake by sending an email for each one? Like I went to the help section part of each website and sent an email there. Or should I have just sent 1 email? Maybe my email got listed as spam or something for it being sent practically the same thing 4-5 times?
How long ago did you do it?
@3ventic I don't know, what is time really? Does it even exist?
At least like 4-5 days ago..
All the other ones were taken care of , but this one just won't go away
I'd ping a CM or something
There @LowerClassOverflowian, pinged.
@Bart Oh no! Anyone but Shog9!
18:21
Oh yes, absolutely @LowerClassOverflowian. You shall feel the wrath of Shoggy Shog McShoggington the 9th. I fear you might not have an account left after this.
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@LowerClassOverflowian I marked your UX account for deletion. It will be removed in 24 hours.
@AnnaLear Alright, thank you very much!
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Q: Why does chat profile reputation seem inconsistent?

3venticThe reputation on chat.SE is supposed to be all your 200+ rep accounts' reputation combined. Now why is it that Jon Skeet's chat profile does not include his MSO reputation, but otherwise includes all 200+ rep accounts' reputation (including SO, of course)? My chat profile does include all my 20...

Caching -- Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything.
Cached for 944 days?
Can't quit CM cold-turkey @AnnaLear? ;)
18:28
@AnnaLear Sorry to bother to you again. (Just to remind you that you promised to provide a clue regarding this question.)
@Bart Once a CM, forever ruined. ;)
@devnull Oh yeah. Thanks for the reminder.
Ha
@Bart Is that you? (referring to i.imgur.com/6enQwWj.gif)
No, it isn't
I deny everything
@Bart ok, if you insist.
18:30
While I do on occasion turn into a small obese black man (which my doctors have not yet figured out) I am generally a quite sizeable white male @devnull.
@devnull ah, I got this. @Anna has bugs to fix... ;-)
@Shog9 sweet =)
I thought @Bart was the invisible man, glasses just don't float like that, they have to rest on something
@Shog9 thanks!
@LowerClassOverflowian Only if you notice, you'd realize that @Shog9 is invisible too.
I've been trying to get hold of him for one question for over a week now.
@Bart Ah this one is certainly better than the other avatar
What can I say @devnull. It's my face. I generally try to stay in the dark, but people keep insisting I come out in broad daylight.
19:16
It seems as if folks _refuse_ to vote-to-close questions as duplicate. These two are _FAQs_ for the C tag: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22307741/how-are-arguments-passed-in-small-brackets-processed-in-c and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22307577/c-program-different-output-on-different-compilers

No wonder the CV queue hits 100k+
19:36
Just because you're a skinny giant doesn't mean Tracy Morgan is obese, @Bart =)
I rest my case
Hmmm, when I think obese, I think larger than that. I don't know what the medical thresholds for obese vs. overweight are, though.
And that is a pretty convincing photo, regardless haha.
hmm.. did someone already flag that picture or should i?
Gah ... should I rant, or shouldn't I rant? ....
Yes please
19:45
Nah, Servy phrased it better than the path I was taking
? servy where?
@Bart You need more practice
I only explain my downvote
Nah, I need more people to not think that the internet will solve their problems. Self-reliance people.
@Bart If we ran out of gas, so the trucks couldn't turn their wheels. Like 90% of people would have no food to eat within 5 days or something.
19:50
A week or two ago I saw a tweet come buy of a guy saying "Banned on SO. If I'm not allowed to ask questions, how am I ever going to learn how to program?" .... sure, programming only exists since 2008. People had no clue what they were doing before that.
@LowerClassOverflowian Is that bad?
@rene It'd be really bad for dogs and cats.
@Bart it seems the level for people leaving school is dropping over the years, at least over here. If it doesn't come easy people quit
That's the same here as well @rene. We're giving some classes at universities and highschools ... I have yet to find any student we would actually hire.
I wonder how many bug reports/complaints Google get when the first link in the search result didn't match the students expected result.
20:00
lol
@rene probaby not that many, since the younger generations don't seem to use customer service as much as the older gens
they just move on to something else or give up
I am the only one still using customer service? And expect them to help me?
if you ever worked customer service in the last 10 years, you'd probably see that the older people will more often than not think they own you, since they are the customer and you are the employee
@LowerClassOverflowian It's turned into email/feeback button/whatever looks like a help button. :P
they don't understand that you, as an employee, aren't the owner, that you are working for a corporate beaucracy that gives you very little power to do anything, and most corporations actually force their employees to follow scripts
point being, that the younger folks can generally take a hint that they should bug off, whereas the older folks will rant about customer service, blah blah blah. . So you have to repeat the same thing to them , that you can't do what they want.
Obvoiusly not saying this is the majority of older folks, but when you get bad customers, they tend to be older, and they don't understand that the world is a differnet place now
20:16
I'm not sure if I completely agree with all of that...I simply tell the truth when I handle first-line calls. And if that is a customer lost for my company, so be it.
@rene Yea, sorry for the rant. It's a topic that involves the workplace, human rights, politics, and more...so not a good fit for this chat :) Your comment just gave me a flashback of my horror days in customer service.
 
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Q: Is it alright to ask for programming tools?

emendezrivasI am asking if it will be alright on this site to ask questions, such as "what is the best library for image rendering in C#?", or similar questions. I understand that this website is for software that is "completed" and serves a purpose for an end-user, so those questions should be moved to st...

^ Basically, if well scoped and not crap, yes.
@hichris123 Feel free to comment that
You will know better than I do
I haven't even been participating that much... so... yeah. :P
Let the mod do the work.
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