Tavern on the Meta

12:00 AM

pretty boring right now as I'm watching this fly by my terminal window:

[7434/17314] CXX obj\net\disk_cache\blockfile\net.disk_format.obj
[7435/17314] CXX obj\net\disk_cache\blockfile\net.entry_impl.obj
[7436/17314] CXX obj\net\disk_cache\blockfile\net.entry_impl_v3.obj
[7437/17314] CXX obj\net\disk_cache\blockfile\net.eviction.obj
[7438/17314] CXX obj\net\disk_cache\blockfile\net.eviction_v3.obj
[7439/17314] CXX obj\net\disk_cache\blockfile\net.file.obj
[7440/17314] CXX obj\net\disk_cache\blockfile\net.file_lock.obj

Braiam

@hichris123 you building on a remote system?

hichris123

@Braiam nope, local. But on Windows. On a laptop from '09.

I want a new computer. :P

Braiam

how much that takes?

Frank

@Braiam only a few hundred

hichris123

@Braiam Full builds (like now) are usually in the ballpark of 6-8 hours (see what I did there? :P It's actually true). Incremental builds are usually around a half hour.

Braiam

12:33 AM

@Frank 6 to 8, huh?

Frank

@Braiam it takes hundreds of years

user259867

12:58 AM

So, I'm writing a simple bookmarklet that will (hopefully) ping me when spam/offensive flags are called for. What are the keywords to look for? "spam", "smokedetector", "offensive", anything else? So many bots these days.

Braiam

/spam/i should be ok

Andrew T.

Morning...

Hi @inf!

Infinite Recursion

@Shog9 Thanks, I understood that now, I will use the userscript you gave from now onwards.

@AndrewT. Hi :)

@hichris123 stop the farewell speeches please, though what you said is very kind of you. I will hang around and help in cv and spam flagging, am not rage quitting :D I have been in the tavern in the past two days too, just being mute like Mark Booth, poke me anytime you need cvs :)

user259867

no spam recently? Yay, it worked! (pinged me)

user259867

Hopefully, not every new message pings... Phew.

hichris123

1:13 AM

@InfiniteRecursion Ok, ok. :) Wasn't sure what was going on here. You also realize I'm going to poke you all the time for cv's? :P

(okay, maybe not)

Infinite Recursion

@justabrickinthewall Ever since you became babaji, the real babaji got scared by seeing your rep

user259867

@hichris123 You also put my username there, but I think there were two separate pings.

hichris123

spam

(did that ping you?)

user259867

Yes, it did. :)

Infinite Recursion

@hichris123 Do poke, we need to close ALL the questions :P

@justabrickinthewall Lies

hichris123

1:17 AM

ugh, my internet messed up on me there... :/

user259867

Oh, I should add "calculus" and "math" to the regex.

hichris123

(You have no questions on SO? wow.)

@InfiniteRecursion Do close meta.stackexchange.com/questions/242370/… then. :P

Infinite Recursion

@hichris123 I don't have 3k there, but I flagged it as OT

hichris123

@InfiniteRecursion :P

Infinite Recursion

^spam

user259867

1:21 AM

Grrr.

Infinite Recursion

Does this poke you?

user259867

I suppose the novelty will wear off soon, though. (Hopefully) (The answer is yes)

Infinite Recursion

@justabrickinthewall yes, I know, people here scold me for poking uni

2 days ago, by Sam

@InfiniteRecursion Meh, it's just the unnecessary pinging people aren't fond of.

Andrew T.

@justabrickinthewall Consider yourself lucky that there is no words containing 'sp@m' in the middle :p

Infinite Recursion

So I am following their advice :)

hichris123

1:29 AM

hmm, does it catch sp@m within a word? Like spamish.

user259867

@hichris123 Yes, it just did. It's /spam|offensive|smokedetector/i

user259867

The bookmarklet is here and the (trivial) code is at the very bottom of that page.

user259867

If it gets annoying, I'll tighten up the regex, naturally.

Doorknob

^ Anyone else getting an error for that image?

Eeeeek, I can't even access stackexchange.com/users/1266491

user259867

I have no problem with the image or @Doorknob user profile.

Andrew T.

1:52 AM

No problem with the flair and @Doorknob user too.

test: @Dor

Doorknob

It seems that only one other user and I are affected by this at the moment; we both can't access anything on stackexchange.com/*

(including the home page)

Weird.

Braiam

were you trying to take SE down, @Doorknob?

user259867

-1

A: An easy way to remember PEMDAS

please eat mom's delicious apple strudel

user259867

^^ I voted to delete from review, before realizing it's a legitimate answer... :/ (question title is not shown there on top of answer, as here)

Doorknob

@Braiam Plot twist: We're both secretly Baba, but we use our diamonds to disguise it and make us seem trustworthy.

Shog9

1:56 AM

Gets warned about all-caps title, posts anyway. Gets deleted, edits title... To still be all-caps.

user202362

there should be a cap ban too - people who post in all caps should automatically get everything they write switched into lower case

user259867

@Shog9 Well, look at the Ask Question page: MATHEMATICS, QUESTIONS, ... ASK QUESTION. So, she is ASKING A QUESTION.

user202362

once convicted, the ban kicks in and last for a day

user202362

everything they post on SE after would be switched into lower case, no exceptions

Andrew T.

Huh, is it just me, or in FireFox on Windows, tabbing and backspacing quickly on the chatbox creates a non-printable unicode character....

user259867

2:02 AM

@Shog9 Also, at least she did not repost... I edited the question into shape; care to undelete?

Doorknob

@AndrewT. Tab should shift focus over to the "send" button, right? Maybe it's a weird Windows thing.

user202362

a fancy bonus would be (just day dreaming here), after the ban starts effect, all the things that user posts would be casted 1 size down ... so it's like a normal post, but slightly smaller ...

Andrew T.

@Doorknob seems so...

Doorknob

@chmod711telkitty And in Comic Sans!

user202362

in which the case it would be 2 sizes smaller?

Doorknob

2:04 AM

(Although people might abuse that for the purposes of infuriating other users...)

Andrew T.

can i haz unicorn coins?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: which way does it spin? by baba ji on math.stackexchange.com

Andrew T.

^ erm...

@SmokeDetector not really spam

user259867

Who has the privilege to tell @SmokeDetector fpu? Not me.

Andrew T.

Not me either.

Doorknob

2:09 AM

It's not a false positive username though; it's just a true positive username (?) posting a valid question, perhaps in an attempt to get rep

user259867

It's a joke username. Someone creates users with display names I formerly used, as soon as I change them. I used "baba ji" for a day, and now this user appeared. Harmless prank.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: Circular node, direction of trajectories? by baba ji on math.stackexchange.com

Doorknob

... another one?

Shog9

@justabrickinthewall you sure you want it? Eh, it's yours now...

user259867

@Doorknob No, same post edited for style by another user.

Doorknob

2:14 AM

Oh, I was confused by the title change.

ɥʇǝS

Does Bart still hang out here? Don't recall seeing him in a while..

Doorknob

@ɥʇǝS Yes

user259867

Now that /greatest-hits are under discussion... does anyone ever look at /tools/post-feedback/ ?

user259867

That one is even better hidden, and requires 10K for some strange reason. Yet, the "least helpful" tab there is probably more useful than anything on "greatest hits". It gives a way to distinguish between genuinely helpful questions, and clickbait that brings in a lot of views, but leaves visitors disappointed.

Andrew T.

@justabrickinthewall may I know where is the post? I think I saw that, but forgot now.

user259867

2:25 AM

3

Q: What should we do about Greatest Hits?

A few years back, the team rolled out a Greatest Hits page that purported to display the "public face" of a site's (or an individual user's) content. This was never linked to from within the UI, because... Well, we weren't sure what to do with it. That's probably not gonna change; in fact, we mi...

Andrew T.

@justabrickinthewall thanks

Jason C

2:50 AM

God dammit why is there no vertical scroll bar on the starred comment list?

ɥʇǝS

@Doorknob Guess I just have bad timing then.

Doorknob

@JasonC chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/89/tavern-on-the-meta/…

Jason C

@Doorknob PLEASE DO NOT GIVE USEFUL REPLIES. THAT IS NOT WHAT I ASKED.

I have neither the time nor the tolerance to deal with reasonable things that make sense.

Doorknob

@JasonC I SEE I AM SORRY I WILL AVOID BEING USEFUL IN THE FUTURE. THIS WAS A VERY BIG MISTAKE AND I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE.

:P

ɥʇǝS

So. Many. Tabs.

I am drowning in tabs.

Where can I ask a question about tab management?

Jason C

2:55 AM

@ɥʇǝS That's because you're putting your face in them

Doorknob

^ ?

ɥʇǝS

@Doorknob I'm sorry, but I concur with this:

4 mins ago, by Jason C

@Doorknob PLEASE DO NOT GIVE USEFUL REPLIES. THAT IS NOT WHAT I ASKED.

Doorknob

Make sure you make your question sufficiently low quality that it needs to be fixed, but not so bad that it needs to be deleted, for the sole purposes of annoying @Undo.

hichris123

66

Q: Is there a Chrome extension that I can use to note why I've opened a tab?

Community managers tend to have issues with tabs, in particular an over-abundance of them. While applying a recent batch of system updates, I closed about 150 tabs between two browser windows. The reasons for having so many open are broadly incidental, just running down suspected voting irregular...

chrome

Doorknob

@ɥʇǝS Oh, I'm really sorry, I just can't seem to stop helping people for some reason! Why am I acting so rude today?

ɥʇǝS

2:57 AM

"What is a good workflow I can use to keep myself from drowning in too many tabs?"

@Undo --^ >:D

@hichris123 hehe, I believe we've discussed this before.. I DO NOT USE CHROME! (why am I yelling?). Either way, I need a way to remove tabs I don't need to look at right now, but not make them so hard to see that I forget I need to look at them someday..

Jason C

"Hi friends I want to use Java to keep myself from drowning in tabs and my friend said I should use a switch statement but it isn't working. Thank you."

ɥʇǝS

@Doorknob :P

Actually, I already asked that question:

2

Q: Tab stacking/groups plugin for Firefox, that is similar to Opera's?

Opera (at least until version 12) had this great feature that let me drag a tab on top of another tab and form a stacking "group" that could retract when not needed and only take up the space of one tab. Is there a plugin for Firefox that I can use to replicate this behavior? Note that Fire...

firefox

hichris123

@ɥʇǝS Oh right. :/ Anyway, go report some bugs for me to fix.

ɥʇǝS

@JasonC There are so many things wrong with that it isn't even funny D:

Maybe a for loop would work better.

Jason C

@ɥʇǝS I'm awesome at writing bad questions.

Doorknob

3:03 AM

@ɥʇǝS Why not a but loop? I hear different conjunctions sometimes work better.

Jason C

@Doorknob I really want to do a Google image search for "butt loop", but I'm using my projector right now and I have no curtains.

ɥʇǝS

    for (i in tabs) {
        if (tab.status != "visible") {
            tab.close();
        }

}

bah chat messing with my formatting.

Jason C

but (why) { ... }

ɥʇǝS

rotfl, that's awesome.

WHERE IS MANISHEARTH WHEN YOU NEED HIM TO WRITE A BROWSER EXTENSION?

Doorknob

#define mommy can I    if
#define but (why)    else

2

ɥʇǝS

3:06 AM

I should get @TimPost to tweet about it..

>:)

Jason C

@Doorknob I am torn between liking that and knowing proper precompiler syntax.

Doorknob

@JasonC Sorry, I've never programmed anything in C aside from Hello World. :P

(Out of curiosity, what would be the proper syntax?)

hichris123

@Doorknob moar underscores

Jason C

so_many_underscores

Doorknob

Dangit, I don't have ♦-powers here to edit it. Oh well.

Jason C

3:12 AM

@Doorknob No worries, you'd probably still mess it up anyways.

ɥʇǝS

aaaand 50 rep to the person who finds me the extension! Go forth and earn it!

Doorknob

@JasonC Thanks for the optimism. :P

Jason C

hichris123

@ɥʇǝS Needs more downvotes. ;P

ɥʇǝS

hah.

So, I'm told a friend of mine once played a trick on another friend of mine and added #define true false to his preprocessor directives.

(DISCLAIMER: I don't know the correct syntax, or even if that works, but it sounded funny anyway)

Doorknob

3:17 AM

#define if while

Infinite Recursion

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@InfiniteRecursion Registered as false positive, added title to Bayesian doctype 'good', whitelisted user.

Infinite Recursion

@SmokeDetector fpu

huh

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@InfiniteRecursion Of course

Infinite Recursion

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

3:19 AM

@InfiniteRecursion Registered as false positive, added title to Bayesian doctype 'good', whitelisted user.

Infinite Recursion

@SmokeDetector finally

Jason C

176

Q: What is the worst real-world macros/pre-processor abuse you've ever come across?

What is the worst real-world macros/pre-processor abuse you've ever come across (please no contrived IOCCC answers *haha*)? Please add a short snippet or story if it is really entertaining. The goal is to teach something instead of always telling people "never use macros". p.s.: I've used mac...

c++ c macros preprocessor

user259867

Okay, I need to work on my regex... to exclude @SmokeDetector for one thing.

Jason C

That top answer is priceless, just for the description of the guy.

Infinite Recursion

Oops, sorry I caused extra pings for you :(

I noticed no one fpu'ed those, so I did it to help, and ended up disturbing you :/

ɥʇǝS

3:21 AM

@JasonC rotfl

Every time I look at this code I think it is Python — 1800 INFORMATION Aug 13 '09 at 21:28

wat

that is clearly not python

CLEARLY*

Jason C

#define while if would be a nice prank too.

@ɥʇǝS I know, that comment confused me.

I like the one there with #define retrun return because the guy didn't feel like fixing typos.

ɥʇǝS

I must admit I've considered aliasing exti to exit in my shell for some time now..

Frank

ola

ɥʇǝS

and claer to clear. Simply because I like to type fast and refuse to learn how to type the "proper" way ;P

Doorknob

@ɥʇǝS Install sl for great fun. ;)

Frank

3:29 AM

@J.Musser Yes, it's comment. But stupid SO rules not allowed write comments without reputation.. Something like that... — Za Noza 2 hours ago

ɥʇǝS

@Doorknob already installed. slowly puts on sunglasses

Frank

The edit on that post messed up my naa flag

user259867

@InfiniteRecursion No problem at all, this was going to happen anyway. The regex is going to evolve based on actual use.

Doorknob

too long; backed away in terror — bobince Dec 17 '09 at 18:44

When bobince of all people backs away in terror, you know it's horrifying.

Frank

3:47 AM

oops, I clicked mobile. How do I undo?

Oh, there it is. sorry folks

Quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videtur. ("Whatever is said in Latin sounds profound.")

SmokeDetector

4:31 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: What is customer's review about skin care products? by vernabrowin on drupal.stackexchange.com

Andy

spam ^ drupal.stackexchange.com/q/135759/34934

Undo

@Doorknob I've only manually nuked like three questions, one about trees, one about paper shredders, and one about some guy's product that wasn't a real question.

@ɥʇǝS "stop following random links on the Interwebs" :P

ɥʇǝS

lol

Andy

@Frank, have you seen the weekly challenges used outside of Gardening and Genealogy? We're trying to come up with an idea or two to generate traffic on Moderators but our userbase is much smaller than those two sites

Undo

4:50 AM

@Andy On space.se we had a "topic of the week" for the longest time, and then eventually support dried up and we killed it. But that was a great way to inspire people to think of questions. The difference is that a site like space is going to be mostly curious people, while a site like moderators will be mostly populated by experts that have come across a situation they want help with.

Jason C

@Andy You could replace all site graphics with pictures of boobs.

Andy

@JasonC adds to list of things to recommend to CMs I'm guessing that is rejected pretty quickly though

with good reason.

Jason C

@Andy Then I'd argue that they should be more goal-oriented.

user259867

Q&A sites are active when there is a mix of users of varying levels of expertise, or of users whose strength lie in different sub-areas. Neither seems to be the case for online moderatorship. (Read: you are DOOOOMED.)

Andy

@Undo I've noticed this too. We hit a lot of our "What if" type questions in private and early public betas. Now we have new users showing up and asking one or two off questions and then not asking or answering any more.

@justabrickinthewall More James Earl Jones required

naa stackoverflow.com/a/26728012/189134

cv-pls recommendation stackoverflow.com/q/13523426/189134

user259867

5:10 AM

-6

Q: Why is Colon Cleansing Naturally Better

Most of the people who suffer with constipation and gasoline on the daily basis don't recognize that this is abnormal. Actually, it is truly the human body sobbing out for support and telling you that something is inappropriate. You should do a significant Colon Cleanse or both adjust your diet t...