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1:04 AM

@Raff Th-ur-o-ly

@InfiniteRecursion Edited

1:34 AM

@bjb568 Oh, come on, we're having a rollback war over this? sigh

Your war.

@bjb568 ... or not. A war has to have two people, right? Otherwise it's just an attack.

1:54 AM

UR ATTAK

2:22 AM

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Q: /me command for chat

I love the "action" command /me found elsewhere, and think it would be fun to have in the chat. A message like: /me loves the new chat system Would show up as: Josh loves the new chat system Rather than: Josh: loves the new chat system I'm trying to think how it would work with ...

Is this actually useful? Should DevDoodle support /me?

user259867

Raff thinks No. Changing the text of user's message can change the emphasis. /me eats fish is not identical to Raff eats fish

user259867

People who refer to themselves in the third-person tend to make me stabby. — Al E. Apr 6 '12 at 15:20

user273376

dang nabbit

bjb568 agrees with Raff. He thinks it's stupid to use 3rd person.

user273376

/me still seeks a CM

user259867

2:31 AM

Jon's Java Jitter Joint

Please ping @JonEricson if you drop by. Office hours start 20 ...

1

user259867

^ Jon holds office hours in chat.

user273376

hmmm

@SabreTooth you could maybe just post your question, pinging a CM, and they'll get it when they can, or maybe even someone else could help out?

user273376

its an issue that i'd probably get lectured at

user259867

Want a lecture on how one shouldn't overdo the foreshadowing part of what one actually wants to say?

user273376

2:39 AM

I have no idea what that means, sounds ominous

user273376

just going to delete my question on MSE

just means someone should normally just ask the question , instead of asking about asking the question

user273376

that requires confidence

user273376

itd be nice to get an answer to my question though

@SabreTooth i wouldn't delete it, it's Saturday night in the US, and site traffic is low right now. It may take a while for someone who knows the answer to respond.

user273376

2:47 AM

it may also be downvoted into oblivion

user273376

ok, where did that come from?

user259867

@SabreTooth Consider Signal Processing for the data processing part. For the hardware part, it's probably Electrical Engineering

user273376

see, that could be a good answer

user259867

Posted as an answer.

user273376

thank you muchly

user273376

2:56 AM

now, the net question would be how to build a Faraday cage so my students would stop texting in class

3:30 AM

If a question doesn't have a tag (language will be a separate thing), it'll say "vanilla", so what should the title of that be?

<span title="Plain, without any frameworks or libraries">(vanilla)</span>

^ ?

i think its already dead — yoavmatchulsky Nov 26 at 11:46

Should titles have periods at the end?

Capitalization?

user259867

No to periods, yes to capitalization.

Why no periods?

@bjb568 titles don't have periods, capitalize every word that isn't like "and", "a", "it" , etc

3:34 AM

@cVplZ We're talking about the HTML title attribute…

user259867

@cVplZ I disagree with capitalizing every word. It works fine for very short titles (up to 5 words) and after that it just becomes annoying.

true

user259867

Ah, that. Then all-lowercase, no punctuation at the end.

…

I don't want to look like SE, allergic to capitals.

hi I don't use capitals

click here to submit form

user259867

THEN USE CAPITALS DAMMIT

3:36 AM

WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?

user259867

IT'S THE ALLERGY

OH NOES

I THINK WE'RE MISSING A SEMICOLON

user259867

Okay. So capitalize the sentence, and put period at the end, proper sentence punctuation.

put three !!! at the end of every line

Ok.

@cVplZ Ok!!!!!!!!!

3:50 AM

@Unihedron I can't star this. I've only had to blame Jan like once before.

Same.

Star this message if you think bjb568 should be blamed for everything.

4:28 AM

abusive physics.stackexchange.com/questions/24744/…

spam/abusive movies.stackexchange.com/questions/26509/…

user259867

@JanDvorak Looks like a reasonable question for Movies, just posted in a wrong box... and on the low-quality edge of the spectrum.

Q: Old black & white movie where a piano player gets shot

@Raff unclear at best, after you remove the email

user259867

The questions in that tag are like that.

user259867

0

I think he gets shot by his wife/girlfriend in his apartment or nearby, somewhere near the end of the movie. Saw it when I was a kid and I remember just that scene, and also that it was a melancholic/quiet type film.

identify-this-movie black-and-white

except they use actual english...

and no email just glued to the end

user259867

4:38 AM

Yes, it's a quality issue. I left a comment suggesting to work on that, and flagged as NAA.

4:52 AM

IMO, site is VLQ and not constructive.

Where is nuke button on A51?

Then the proposal better make sure it reflects this scope, because the current examples do not :) — Ivo Flipse May 24 '11 at 18:14

so tru

5 eva

5:16 AM

@SmokeDetector why?

@SmokeDetector fp

@JanDvorak Registered as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

5:41 AM

Has really noone fixed this title yet? math.stackexchange.com/questions/1043682/…

user259867

Fixed now. Typical for math: several 2K+ users stop by, write extensive answers or comments, and don't fix any flaws in the question.

5:56 AM

code-dump stackoverflow.com/questions/27210490/…

user273376

Weird, trying to delete my A51 account and I do all the "contact us", select "delete my user profile" and a reason - but then it says that it has to be requested from the mainsite - but the contact us page goes to the discussion site

How's this work? github.com/bjb568/Markdown-HTML/pull/2

user273376

this is one of the reasons I need a CM

user259867

@SabreTooth This is a known issue. I had it myself a few days ago. Here's the response from a CM (Tim Post)

Night!

Looky the pull request

user273376

6:10 AM

@Raff legend!

user259867

Just an experienced user. :) I got my A51 account deleted in this way.

user259867

(I stupidly added an email that triggered merge with an ancient account, back from the days when a mod handled deletion of my profile, leaving account in place). Yawn. Delete all the things.

user273376

yes, yes, delete, delete, exterminate, exterminate!

user273376

I have also sent in the request for 2 of my inactive (and never will be active again) accounts - they went through normally

user259867

Yes, the "normal" sites, running up-to-date software, do not have this problem. Area 51 is an old mess that nobody wants to touch. For example:

user273376

6:16 AM

too many cobwebs and goblins?

user259867

No plans to update Area 51 as such... but we're working on a new login system that should take care of this as well. Same goes for stackexchange.com, which I believe also still uses the OpenID endpoints. — Anna Lear ♦ 16 mins ago

user259867

This is why my new pic says "billions and billions helped": every time I delete something from these sites, it helps everyone who did not want to see it -- which is most of the world.

2

user273376

you are a kind internet citizen

I love that approach :-)

user273376

wheel of blame?

user273376

6:21 AM

i like it!

I mean, "every time I delete something from these sites, it helps everyone who did not want to see it"

user273376

ah yes, I got that - just noticed mentions of a wheel of blame

user259867

The wheel is a bit out of date, unfortunately. I'd like to blame a couple of VPs for a few things, but they are not on the wheel.

user273376

lol

user273376

I have helped 934 people??? how in the name of Zool did I do that? That reminds me, got to clean the fridge

6:38 AM

@rene your SEDE pic is borked

A: Profile Page Makeover, Part 3: the Prototype returns

6:58 AM

0

Its quite strange, but clicking link to own profile (from my answers, questions, comments) sends me to the "Activity" tab of my profile, while clicking a link to another user sends me to his "Profile" tab.

can anyone repro plz?

or its just me?

user259867

status-by-design

user259867

The intend the "Activity" profile to open by default when you look at your own profile. The post you oneboxed indicates as much -- perhaps not 100% explicitly, but it's there.

thx :)

7:18 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CONTINOUS AT A POINT by Edward Neras on math.stackexchange.com

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/q/27210812/3622940

8:09 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: INSERTING MULTIPLE VALUES INTO DETAIL TABLE USING LOOP / CURSOR by Bijo Mammen on stackoverflow.com

Braiam

8:20 AM

@cVplZ like this!!!!!!!!!

A: Coloured box in OP comments partially blocks the descenders above it

9:02 AM

-3

Faenter link description here

what...

9:25 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHEN I TRY TO WORK WITH SQL STATEMENT 'INSER INTO' IT SHOWS ERROR MASSAGE. by K.R.SRINIVASAN on dba.stackexchange.com

SPAM webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/70496/…

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHEN I TRY TO WORK WITH SQL STATEMENT 'INSER INTO' IT SHOWS ERROR MASSAGE by K.R.SRINIVASAN on dba.stackexchange.com

\o

9:45 AM

unclear stackoverflow.com/questions/27211800/creating-tuples

also, NAA

downworthy? stackoverflow.com/questions/27211960/…

yes NAA

10:06 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHEN I TRY TO WORK WITH SQL STATEMENT 'INSER INTO' IT SHOWS ERROR MASSAGE by K.R.SRINIVASAN on dba.stackexchange.com

>>help

Patrick Hofman

10:23 AM

VLQ: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/244397/…

There actually are people who don't eat any meat at all. I'm not a fan of soy but apparently it counts as a source of proteins as well. — Jan Dvorak 13 secs ago

10:42 AM

@PatrickHofman It's still there? I flagged it 2 hours ago..

flagged abusive already

/me also

probably failed spam

Deleted

yay

10:50 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHEN I TRY TO WORK WITH SQL STATEMENT 'INSER INTO' IT SHOWS ERROR MASSAGE by K.R.SRINIVASAN on dba.stackexchange.com

Does the "what have you tried" comment nuke magic keyword only apply on Stack Overflow?

I think so, yes

hanks!

ou're elcome

11:10 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO FETCH THE FIRST ROW A USER HAS SAVE ON A TABLE IN PHP-MYSQL by Erphil Catama on stackoverflow.com

cv'd^

11:48 AM

SPAM bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/32791/…

SPAM bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/32792/…

SPAM? seems to be linking to a site to pay for likes stackoverflow.com/a/10498561/3041194

Vogel612's Shadow

12:03 PM

@cVplZ not seems, does,

flagged as such

@cVplZ you mean the black-line at the bottom?

@rene yea, but flower too blur too

@cVplZ -1 for lack of research: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/89?m=1847737#1847737 ;)

12:18 PM

Feb 23 at 12:01, by rene

@ShadowWizard Fixed!

+1 , since it was already status-completed, so new question allowed.

WAT askubuntu.com/questions/554922/…

@cVplZ I'm now lost in the gravatar site... is that how it is supposed to work?

i think so , i just don't have my nice pic on there by design

@JanDvorak nuke-pls

SPAM stackoverflow.com/a/26055295/3041194

12:31 PM

@cVplZ two months old spam..

nice tulips...

flagged, gone

@cVplZ OK, now I can blame caching...

1:48 PM

cv-pls Unclear: stackoverflow.com/questions/27207417/…

2:01 PM

not sure if I'm allowed to act on that without being accused of irresponsible behaviour....

voted...

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHEN I TRY TO WORK WITH SQL STATEMENT 'INSER INTO' IT SHOWS ERROR MASSAGE by K.R.SRINIVASAN on dba.stackexchange.com

2:14 PM

Hey there's an arrow in the user avatars row, and it's pointing at @Bart!

Problem solved.

AdrianHHH

Have the rules changed? This question shows no effort on the part of the asker, they just want code and some people are providing it. stackoverflow.com/questions/27207244/…

@rene irresponsible ...

thanks for the support ;) ....

2:43 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HUAWEI G700 SWITCH OFF RANDOMLY SHUTT OFF AND HEAT UP by FARHAN HUSSAIN Khilji on android.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector delete

@SmokeDetector delete

too late...

Is the delete command broken? @Undo @ProgramFOX I remember it not working for times within timeout quota

@Bart Eek! We closed it.

2:50 PM

@InfiniteRecursion doing evil on a Sunday. For shame.

Close this evil room on Sundays!!

Wait, it's sunday?

^evil close voter, he lost track of weekends

:D

:D

2:54 PM

2

from here

3:11 PM

@Unihedron In that specific case, you were too late. In other cases, it might be the chat command listening web socket that broke.

@ProgramFOX ok, thanks

3:54 PM

NAA stackoverflow.com/a/27214948/1741671

A: What could the only answer to this question be?

1

There couldn't be any answers to this question because this question was put on hold by Doorknob. And question which is put on hold doesn't accept answers until it is reopened.

Thats correct, right?

@nicael I know that trick as well...

Never mind, I don't.

LOL

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: TOR KEEPS CRASHING CONSTANTLY. PLEASE FIX by Crystal Star on tor.stackexchange.com

Well, whatever.

@Unihedron lol

4:06 PM

It doesn't work... why?..

this must have a dup on MSE but I can't find it...

@JulianRosen it's possible to answer closed questions about 2 hours after being closed with simple JS trick. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/91922/… — Shadow Wizard 7 mins ago

@rene meta.stackexchange.com/questions/211641/…

4:30 PM

@InfiniteRecursion Yeah, HE SPOILED THE FUN!!!

Yes, LET'S GO AND SHOUT IN THE DEN AND SPOIL HIS FUN!!!

PRESS YOUR CAPS LOCK PLZ

;P

@ProgramFOX HALP I CANT FIND IT

@nicael Buy another keyboard.

;)

!!/ALIVE?

4:36 PM

@InfiniteRecursion YES

@InfiniteRecursion YOU DOUBT ME?

!!/alive? (and don't listen to @InfiniteRecursion while she's shouting)

@ProgramFOX ... did I miss something?

:P

:P

4:37 PM

Pff...silly bot.

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 12 secs ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev ce22b6b (ProgramFOX: Made commands case-insensitive) (hosted by Undo)

Nobody insults SmokeDetector without I take revenge.

;p

@Raff Your profile pic... LOL :D

!!/AlIvE?

!!/alive?

ugh

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 22 secs ago, by ProgramFOX

@Undo What went wrong with Smokey?

Pff..silly bot dev.

4:53 PM

@InfiniteRecursion Pff...silly IndexErrors.

:P

!!/alive?

not yet

I'm fixing it.

Ah ok

But then we'll have to wait until it auto-restarts or until Undo restarts it.

Because the pull command is probably also dead now.

4:56 PM

@TGMCians No, my silly dev was taking revenge and borked me. Lesson of the day: don't mess with ducks.

Uh oh.

@InfiniteRecursion "My silly dev"... Do I develop you? :O

@ProgramFOX Yep, you are the developer of all ducks.

@hichris123 And I always thought a fox ate ducks...

:P

4:59 PM

But not this one. I don't want that my stomach gets stuck in an infinite recursion...

:P

I should change my name :D

bummi

@InfiniteRecursion NO

OK

!!/pull

probably won't work, but trying anyway

nope, not working

Go enjoy your Sunday @ProgramFOX, stop borking Smokey :P

5:06 PM

@InfiniteRecursion I am enjoying my Sunday :P

... and ruining Smokey's Sunday :P

:P

yesterday, by Unihedron

If you think we should build a Wheel of Blame implementation which always blames Jan Dvorak, star this message.

6 stars :O

Meanie's un popularity exceeded my expectations :P

2

13 hours ago, by bjb568

Star this message if you think bjb568 should be blamed for everything.

no stars

5:22 PM

Tavern's ability to ignore bjb exceeded my expectations :P

3

github.com/bjb568/Markdown-HTML/pull/2 DO NOT IGNORE, GO LOOKEY AND SEE IF IT'LL BREAK STUFF

LOOK THUROLY

16 hours ago, by bjb568

@Raff Th-ur-o-ly

There's only 1 line

Night!

Night!

5:26 PM

Night!

Night uni :)

Thanks :)

Night Uni!

5:47 PM

cs50.stackexchange.com

What is this dump?

Q: What is cs50 and why can't I access it?

37

I just stumbled over this page in the Stackexchange dropdown (top left corner). cs50 - For students of HarvardX CS50x: Introduction to Computer Science When I click on it I get the following message: Warning: this site is currently in private beta for at least a few more days. To...

discussion area51 stackexchange private-beta

6:02 PM

nuke-pls programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/264157/…

Andrew T.

^ nuked

yay!

6:29 PM

Is there anyone else who can't see their stackexchange flair? Mine doesn't load

@dennisschagt It's loading fine for me.

@ProgramFOX Do you mean your stackexchange flair, or can you see my flair load correctly?

@dennisschagt Your flair.

And my flair is also loading fine.

@ProgramFOX Strange, I don't need it at the moment so I will just check again in a few days

A: Flair buttons suddenly broken?

4

As mentioned by Oded here: The flair is cached individually on each server, so whether you hit the corrupted cache depends on the server you hit. This is why some people can repro and some can't. One way or another, the caches are cleared weekly, so this will resolve itself.

6:34 PM

@InfiniteRecursion Thank you for linking that

:)

6:45 PM

Aaaaand.... I crossed 4k again :)

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: DISARM THE B.O.M.B.! by Averroes on codegolf.stackexchange.com

It's back alive!

!!/pull

(I hope that doesn't kill it)

@SmokeDetector fpu

Would that still work?

Okay, the command doesn't work here anymore, but it still does in Charcoal HQ.

welcome back @SmokeDetector!

I got an idea!

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 16 secs ago, by ProgramFOX

If I add more than one word, it still works!

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 22 secs ago, by ProgramFOX

!!/pull without crashing

meh, idea not working, still dead

!!/alive? ?

cause found:

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 22 secs ago, by ProgramFOX

ah, of course, my "ohh..." killed it because it's just one word

Got to go now, cya!

7:01 PM

cya!

cya!

finally Smokey can enjoy Sunday : P

A final note: if you see that SmokeDetector auto-restarted and if you are a privileged user, please run !!/pull without crashing to make it pull without it crashes.

If it does not receive one-word messages, it runs fine.

user259867

7:29 PM

@bjb568 The future of Stack Exchange, now that it's all about HELPING PEOPLE.

@InfiniteRecursion Tnx for finding that and posting a comment....

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: TO CONVERT 11K 45 DIGIT NO FROM DECIMTIMEAL TO HEXADECIMAL SIMULTANEOUSLY AT THE SAME by Pranav on superuser.com

!!/pull without crashing

!!/pull

neither worked. :(

7:48 PM

!!/alive

@TGMCians Only use the command if it auto-restarted....

;)

!!/ALIVE

@rene It doesn't tell us if it auto-restarted.

!!/ALIVE SMOKEY

!!/ALIVE SMOKEY PRETTY PLEASE?

borked bot....

Heh

The Wobbuffet

^ I'm doing homework and I want my computer to stay on so my friend can remotely access it

8:02 PM

@rene watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring

Boom! Headshot programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/264168/…

has 2 minutes time

!!/status without crashing

nope, still not

Yay, I could use the commands in Charcoal HQ.

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 51 secs ago, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] SmokeDetector started at rev a5d0139 (ProgramFOX: Use excepthook for threads) (hosted by Undo)

Repaired!

!!/ALIVE?

@ProgramFOX Yup

yay

Here we go @InfiniteRecursion, it's now case-insensitive.

Enjoy your Sunday @SmokeDetector :)

Cya!

8:14 PM

/me also going to sleep now. good night!

Patrick Hofman

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/27217065/…

@rene: Thanks

np

8:30 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: 6/2 ROMEX WIRE 100' by JACKMAN44 on diy.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector remove

@TheWobbuffet That seems unnecessary.

8:49 PM

7o/

The Wobbuffet

@bjb568 Nah, he's using windows and we're working on a Swift thing

SmokeDetector is back?

!!/pull

!!/help

how do you get a sock like SmokeDetector to join a chatroom with 1 rep?

Doorknob

@TheWobbuffet chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/89/…

SPAM stackoverflow.com/a/19263761/3041194

Doorknob

@cVplZ Wow, that's... very old

@Doorknob not nearly as old as the 5 year spam you found, or was that undo

Doorknob

9:03 PM

@cVplZ I don't recall that; probably someone else

Oct 24 at 6:35, by Sam

@Braiam Sorry, I was wrong. It was Undo that found 5 yo spam.

Spam? stackoverflow.com/users/4260469/nishant-arora?tab=answers

^ probably just other flag for mod to handle

Probably spam: stackoverflow.com/users/3469779/user42244?tab=answers

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/27218313/…

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/27218335/…

user259867

9:15 PM

@hichris123 Answers do address the questions ... sort of... I downvoted and flagged VLQ, which should probably solve the issue via answer ban.

@JanDvorak why?

input data not specified, debug-my-codez, probably a typo

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: 6/2 ROMEX WIRE 100' by JACKMAN44 on diy.stackexchange.com

@JanDvorak It clearly specifies the error, though. It's an index out of bounds, on that line, and a comment already might have the answer. Not seeing how it's unclear.

I can't trace that without a set of input data

The comment didn't convince me...

It might be the cause, but I don't know how to verify that

9:20 PM

eh, true.

@hichris123 meh...