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hichris123

12:09 AM

It's so quite in here. :P

animuson

I'm eating gluten-free burgers. :3

Starting #4.

jadarnel27

12:27 AM

That's a lot of burger.

animuson

This wouldn't be a proper tavern without burgers.

hichris123

12:55 AM

@animuson I thought for a second you were saying that there was gluten in the meat. :D

Amaterasu

1:11 AM

@Shog9 thank you for helping me out before, concrns were raised in chat of the site (Cog Sci) that there were a lot of new rubbish questions - I hd only made a question (and an answer), but was a newbie, so I did not want to add to their nuisance any further

Amaterasu

2:50 AM

phew, that was a close call - meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/217443/… would have no doubt have been downvoted to heck if I did

hichris123

@Amaterasu I don't think it would have - it's a good idea, but the point is that are flags like that common enough to have it?

Amaterasu

maybe I should ask that?

hichris123

Hmm, I don't know. It does seem like it would come under other as a flag, so I don't know.

Amaterasu

true, meh, I won't ask it

hichris123

3:06 AM

@Undo You have your own tag! undo :P

Amaterasu

tis a stupid suggestion I made really

hichris123

@Amaterasu I'm sorry, but no, it's actually a good idea. It just wouldn't (probably) be used enough for it to be nessecary. Don't fool yourself into thinking that just because someone points out a flaw in it, it's a bad idea. It's not.

Shog9

@Amaterasu meh. Take things folks say in chat with a grain of salt.

And some tequila.

And a lime, of course.

hichris123

It's not happy hour anymore, @Shog9.

Shog9

bullshit

just finished a couple of really nice porters

hichris123

3:14 AM

Shog9

yesss

hichris123

Is there a Don't chat drunk rule?

Shog9

no

are you crazy?

no

Jan Dvorak

I love chatting drunk

Shog9

If you can still type, you can still chat

Jan Dvorak

3:16 AM

One beer is the ideal amount for me

Shog9

At 7000ft, 3 about does it for me

At sea level, it takes a few more

Jan Dvorak

I've never been that high

Shog9

Fortunately for my wallet, I'm at 7000ft

Amaterasu

okay, I'll post it and see how it goes

Shog9

DO IT!

The most you can lose is worthless meta rep and privs

Jan Dvorak

3:17 AM

At 3 beers, my stomach starts to complain

Amaterasu

@Shog9 that is not reassuring..... anyways, I am posting it as an answer to the threead

hichris123

@Shog9 I am crazy, shouldn't that show up on my user page?

Shog9

?

but, yes, probably

hichris123

Like the leaving out my milk option. It should be there, right?

Shog9

naw. You're just crazy.

hichris123

3:24 AM

Darn. I don't know my mod/CM tools.

Amaterasu

alright ... answered meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/217443/…

@Shog9 @hichris123 I put my idea in an answer

Shog9

so i see...

would want a specialized flag, not a close option; we don't close plagiarism; we edit it or DELETE IT

ruthlessly

no ruths allowed

...i'll see about writing that up

Amaterasu

should I edit or delete my answer?

who in the heck is Evan Carroll?

just had an ..'interesting' chat with him chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/13389701#13389701

Shog9

@Amaterasu he is... An interesting fella

Amaterasu

@Shog9 he is indeed and as you can see in my chat with him, he was quite a charater

@Shog9 did the wording of my answer make sense at all?

Shog9

3:36 AM

yes

@Amaterasu edit, yes. Let's face it: folks plagiarize answers way more than questions. No need to bother considering closure.

Amaterasu

i am wondering should just delete it?

Jan Dvorak

The most plagiarism is in the tag wiki, isn't there?

Amaterasu

I edited my answer a bit

Pëkka

@Amaterasu looooooool

evancarroll.com

Amaterasu

@Pëkka he referred to Amaterasu as 'Fido'....

Pëkka

3:40 AM

There is a ppor guy in North Carolina who happens to share his name.

evancarroll.net

He must have a tough time finding customers

Amaterasu

I wonder if he is a membr?

Pëkka

"Hello, my name is Evan Carroll, I would like to make your communications experience more personal!" click

Amaterasu

@Pëkka did you like my chat with him?

in other news I am slightly less of a fat, ugly socially inept and rather stupid slob... lost 2.7kg in 3 weeks

hichris123

@Amaterasu From the looks of your chat... an interesting character he is...

Amaterasu

yup, he seems to not be as 'awesome' or 'great' as he claims to be

hichris123

3:55 AM

Oh, is he that person who has a Wikipedia user page about himself and has a link to his mSO profile?

Lemme look.

Pëkka

@Amaterasu very funny.

@hichris123 yes

hichris123

@Pëkka Link please for my amusement?

Amaterasu

he definitely did not know my nickname is named for the Japanese mythological sun goddess

calling it 'Fido'

hichris123

Here we go:

User:EvanCarroll

Future President of the United States, Dr. Sri Sri Evan John Carroll GBE (born September 10 1985 CE – never) aka The Evan Carroll, or simply The Evan is totally awesome. He is known for his ability to split water as he walks on it. Evan is currently employed as a highly senior computer software engineer or programmer and ruthlessly wastes lots of time improving technical and local articles on Wikipedia. His public distaste and abhorrence for sarcasm is well known. Also known, is his willingness to create words when they don't exist, claiming them for the betterment of the language. ...

@Amaterasu You'll get a laugh out of this page

Amaterasu

holy crap...

I am seeing a lot of '[citation needed]' in there

Shog9

4:00 AM

huh... Never really considered his birth date before. I have 3 relatives born on the same day of the year. 9/10 is an auspicious date.

hichris123

Heh, what a coincidence.

Amaterasu

lol, instead of [citation needed], there is a [weasel words]

That was terrifying reading

Jan Dvorak

4:32 AM

Is this too minor an edit?

Dennis Meng

4:51 AM

how goes the tavern this lovely friday night

Jan Dvorak

5:03 AM

Met this on my closevoting spree :-D

If you can use regexes, you can assuredly use std::string. And regex for a single char is just, kinda, moronic... — Lightness Races in Orbit yesterday

Dennis Meng

I want to say I saw that too

Made me chuckle a little

Amaterasu

5:18 AM

can someone nuke this spamtard chemistry.stackexchange.com/users/4287/user67848 - spammers are useless scum

Jan Dvorak

on the same note, there's a lot of outstanding spam on Magento. Again.

Amaterasu

spammers, once caught, should be castrated so they don't breed and hung, drawn and quartered and eaten alive by fire ants and frced to listen to the dribble that comes from One Direction and Justin Beiber

Jan Dvorak

Hate to be unoriginal, but Beatles once were singing the same kind of stupid love songs 1D does.

OK, I'm out of flags on Magento. Again.

Amaterasu

overpaid pretty boys

Jan Dvorak

Open your realtime tabs, I'm out of my spam flags.

animuson

5:25 AM

Finalllly got the platinum trophy on Assassin's Creed 4. Man was that a boring grind.

Amaterasu

@JanDvorak how?

nm found it

Jan Dvorak

Step 1: http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/193646/spam-deluge-over-at-webapps-and-pretty-much-all-over-se/193681#193681
Step 2: http://stackexchange.com/questions?tab=realtime#

Note: 1 request per second is considered too much by the Stack Exchange bot, and it's counted network-wide. Stupid spammer.

Amaterasu

all spammers are stupid, like advertisers

animuson

mashable.com/2014/01/24/google-gmail-outage-response

Who was complaining about GMail being down? ^

Amaterasu

6:54 AM

damn worthless piece of subhuman crap spammer is back on chem.SE chemistry.stackexchange.com/users/4288/user4288

All spammers should be put to a slow and excrutiatingly painful death

michaelb958

in Whining Room, 1 hour ago, by michaelb958

Don't they ever stop?

Jan Dvorak

7:54 AM

aaand another one

also, one on magento

the ones on magento are getting boring...

Amaterasu

and another on on chem.SE

Jan Dvorak

I've called out the chem.se one already, or do you mean a different one?

Amaterasu

these subhuman spammers need to be tracked down and incapacitated in a way that they can never send their crap and also so they never breed

there is another one

this piece of trash chemistry.stackexchange.com/users/4290/user4290

michaelb958

@Amaterasu Use $.castrate(), but always supply an argument.

Jan Dvorak

magento - magento.stackexchange.com/questions/13843/…

I'm outta flags

Amaterasu

8:02 AM

@michaelb958 lol

Jan Dvorak

8:45 AM

flag-pls magento.stackexchange.com/questions/13844/…

I'll leave the rest of magento.se to you

Amal Murali

lolwat

Jan Dvorak

9:11 AM

yesss!

Now this suggested audit was slightly tricky :-)

Amal Murali

"navigator drawer ands hit the tablistener interface win32 version" is enough to know it's a suggested audit :P

It's easy for suggested-edits queue, but CV audits are harder (at least, that's what I think)

Jan Dvorak

I passed it, but I had to read the text :-)

I pass CV audits by observing the timing

should I be ashamed?

I'm out of CV review points for today, but I still have 11 votes to spend. Any volunteers?

rene

9:29 AM

I think I casted the last spam flag needed on that question on magento @JanDvorak

@JanDvorak the timing is the give away I wanted to keep for myself :-)

No shame needed, you pay attention (sort of)

animuson

Hrm, anyone recommend a free video editor that doesn't leave stupid watermarks?

Amal Murali

Can anyone take a look at my reputation history?

Bart

What kind of editing @animuson? Something like Lightworks or Blender perhaps?

Amal Murali

I was serially upvoted twice within the last two days, and after that some of the upvotes weren't removed during the reversal. Any ideas why this might be happening?

animuson

@Bart Just basic tools. Cutting things together, compressing.

Jan Dvorak

9:36 AM

@animuson does the MS video editor leave watermarks?

animuson

Microsoft has a video editor?

Jan Dvorak

indeed

Amal Murali

Should I ask a question on Meta about it?

Jan Dvorak

you can flag suspicious voting patterns after the script is done not kicking in

animuson

@AmalMurali Which votes? Your reputation history looks fine to me...

rene

9:39 AM

@animuson windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-live/… but if it's packaged with Windows Live be prepared to install Writer, Email, Messenger and a lot of other useless stuff as well...

HALP?

animuson

Haha that's the first thing it asks.

Like noooooooo nonononononono

rene

It is a package deal

animuson

You have to install Photo Gallery to install Movie Maker, but you can skip all the other stuff.

@rene "I'm writing PHP, here's some SQL."

Jan Dvorak

0_0 I've just seen a question with this exact title:

> HALP DEBUG MY ASSIGNMENT ASAP

And this in the body:

> but it no work for mysql database plz give me teh codez

rene

look up 7 messages ^^^^

Amal Murali

9:44 AM

@JanDvorak: this one right?

Jan Dvorak

@AmalMurali aye

Amal Murali

Smells like a troll.

Amaterasu

@JanDvorak that has to be fake

Jan Dvorak

@AmalMurali *smells himself* indeed

Amal Murali

@animuson: You're right. I was confused. I just re-checked and I see all votes were removed correctly.

rene

11:01 AM

@JanDvorak If you still have CV left stackoverflow.com/questions/21349654/…

I just screwed my debian server...

Bart

Well done good Sir

rene

Turns out that installing from unstable means that your box becomes unstable. Never knew that.

jadarnel27

11:18 AM

I think animosity expressed in here towards the people posting spam is...weird.

One should reserve one's animosity for truly distasteful things. Like Active Directory. We have flags for spam. There are no flags for AD.

This question appears to be off-topic because it's about the horrifying piece of technology know as Active Directory OH GOD RUN GET OUT WHILE YOU CA-

Bart

Well thank you @jadarnel27. I just paid a hypnotist to remove all traces of AD from my brain, just so I could close all such questions as "Unclear what you're asking". Now that has all been for nothing.

jadarnel27

11:43 AM

Uh...whoops! Sorry 'bout that, @Bart!

The close reason probably still applies.

Or "off-topic" -> "belongs on another site" -> "Server Fault."

What made me think it was a good idea to wake up this early on a Saturday?

rene

11:59 AM

spam: drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/101092/…

spam flag please : apple.stackexchange.com/questions/118643/…

Amaterasu

1:11 PM

can any CM help this user meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/217463/…

Bart

Don't see why he would need to delete the account in the first place @Amaterasu.

Amaterasu

1:43 PM

not sure either, but thought i'd help

Bart

Ah well, got nuked anyway

rene

2:41 PM

spam: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/13855/…

spam flags please: magento.stackexchange.com/questions/13856/…

GnomeSlice

3:43 PM

Today's listening

rene

listening...

rene

4:18 PM

Hmmm, looks like my debian server is going to recover...

Jan Dvorak

4:37 PM

does the programming-fundamentals tag mean that "poorly researched questions are okay but it must be applicable enough and not a dup"?

I've just noticed stackoverflow.com/questions/21353113/…

Mat

Gah. Kill it with fire.

(The tag, not the question.)

Jan Dvorak

and, the question? It must be a duplicate

lemme try

possible duplicate of Is JavaScript's Floating-Point Math Broken? — Jan Dvorak 21 secs ago

3ventic

You should have a question about floating point counting errors with no language specified..

jadarnel27

Close them as dupes of the Wikipedia article on floating point calculations.

rene

5:01 PM

on that programming-fundamentals this stackoverflow.com/questions/2384755/… just had my close vote. But if the tag should go, is there a better tag? (except no-tag)

Jan Dvorak

no-tag seems fine

language-agnostic seems like a fine alternative for untagged

rene

this is on its way to delete? stackoverflow.com/questions/11588949/…

Jan Dvorak

cast

rene

gone

Jan Dvorak

Damn. I forgot to downvote

Bart

6:02 PM

@JanDvorak holy frick there are some poor answers in there

animuson

6:35 PM

> migration rejected from stackoverflow.com just now

Ok, I'm in love with you guys right now.

hichris123

@animuson What question?

animuson

I'm even going to offer up some more of @jadarnel27's french kisses for this improvement.

@hichris123 This: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/217481/…

hichris123

Um... I don't even get the question. Do they want us to lower the rep levels?

jadarnel27

6:56 PM

What feature is that, @animuson? I was thinking migration rejections are old news, so I don't think that's it.

animuson

The text actually changes to "migration rejected" now. previously it always just stayed "migrated" no matter what.

hichris123

Question: how can a locked question be closed? In the rev history it shows the post as being locked before it was closed.

animuson

They happen simultaneously.

hichris123

Ah, you're right. Didn't look at the timestamps.

Tim Stone

RESEED ALL THE DATA DUMP!

jadarnel27

7:20 PM

Well that's pretty damn generous!

Though I can't help but laugh when I read things measured in gibibytes. It sounds so...silly.

"75.4 gibibytes this session" - lol

See?

Tim Stone

8:25 PM

Thanks, @animuson :P

jadarnel27

8:47 PM

I would like to request that someone in here periodically remind me not to agree to help people move.

Bart

Hey @jadarnel27

jadarnel27

...watch your step here, @Bart.

@Bart Yes?

Bart

/me is slowly backing away....

jadarnel27

Hahaha

I'm bandaged. And tired. And I tore my designer jeans.

Though arguably that makes them more stylish.

Bart

You basically out-designed the designer there

jadarnel27

8:52 PM

Indeed. I wonder, though, if the blood stains are going to be fashionable any time soon.

Bart

And these designs were from the time where @jadarnel27 was in his "Dexter" period. I'd like you to particularly take in the delicate bloodsplatter here which really takes this design up a notch

All fine and well, all these Github activity graphs and diagrams, but right now they are telling me I've been a lazy bastard.

hichris123

Is bootstrap an easy-to-use thing and is it actually useful?

jadarnel27

I just had someone send me a message on Facebook, asking if I could send them a (free) copy of my CD, because they had "worn [theirs] out."

hichris123

@jadarnel27 1. People still use CD's? And 2. Um... they seriously think that you're going to believe them?

jadarnel27

That just made me laugh. And I am totally going to send them one, just because they even tried that tactic.

@hichris123 Haha, I certainly do not use CDs.

And the only time we end up selling hard copies is at shows.

There is an option on the website to buy a physical CD, but everyone just opts for the download.

hichris123

9:05 PM

Somehow you should find a way to sell digital copies at shows.

Bart

@jadarnel27 Just scan a CD and mail it to them as an attachment.

6

Never wears out

hichris123

@Bart I bet you've done that, too.

jadarnel27

@Bart Fantastic idea.

Cole Johnson

Ok, so my question got migrated, so I created an account on the site. Only problem is the comments weren't reassociated sound.stackexchange.com/questions/23967/…

Pëkka

10:01 PM

Hunting plagiators in the Android tag is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's a bit disheartening.

An innocent search for a code comment like "//here,we are making a folder named picFolder to store pics taken by the camera using this application" leads to three new users that need checking out

Ah well.

hichris123

@Pëkka Plagiators = people who commit plagerism? (For a second there it looked like alligator + plague) :P

Pëkka

@hichris123 yes, exactly. :)

It's come so far that I'm tempted to upvote answers simply because they are original contributions.

hichris123

So that's what you do in your free time. Are you sure you have enough to do?

Bart

feature-request append "or you didn't steal the content" to the upvote tooltip.

Pëkka

@hichris123 nah, checking out a pageful of answers is my 15-minute break from work. It satisfies the Neighbourhood Watchman inside me.

hichris123

10:12 PM

@Pëkka How do you search for them?

Pëkka

@hichris123 I don't, actively - the current trawl started the other day with this Meta question. Checking out people's answers on Google then leads to others that have plagiarized the same contribution.

Sometimes, plagiators are easy to spot because people who have trouble building a sentence suddenly speak perfect, crystal-clear English with American idioms => most often a copy-pasta job

Bart

That's how we found most of the plagiarism in the scientific papers of the journal I handled @Pëkka.

Botched English suddenly turning into beautiful phrases.

Michael Petrotta

Hmm. Chose a random answer from the 175 yet-undeleted answers posted by the first plagiarist in question. It's plagiarized, of course.

Bart

10:34 PM

Pff, a lot of it's plagiarized. Should all of that be flagged individually? Should it just be edited to give proper attribution?

Michael Petrotta

I don't think attribution is appropriate, @Bart, unless the content's from a source with a friendly license, like Wikipedia or SO.

Bart

Myeah, that's what I'm thinking.

Michael Petrotta

I was wondering the same thing, about the appropriate action to take for a user with hundreds of answers.

Pops

@Pëkka I should renovate the Regulator Headquarters/Posse Comitatus room and reopen it as The Italian Restaurant. It could be the #1 copy pasta restaurant in the downtown MSO business district practically overnight, I tell you!

Pëkka

@Bart I don't see the point in doing that when the entire answer is copied from elsewhere. And honestly, it wouldn't be fair looking at the effort it takes to track the stuff down - when you do this at Uni, you get (at least) an F for that paper, and getting (at least) the answer nuked is the Stack Overflow equivalent to that

@Pops oh yes please!

We could have Linguine

And Pappardelle

All made from delicious plagiarism.

Bart

10:42 PM

So the only option would be to flag each individual case then @Pëkka.

@animuson Would hate me with all the "other" flags

Pops

@Pëkka chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/227/la-trattoria-meta

hichris123

@Pops Can we post spam there?

Pops

Does it look like an American restaurant?

animuson

Oh thanks, I was hoping we'd pass 1k other flags.

hichris123

@Pops Yes. La Trattoria is a weird English word.

Pëkka

10:52 PM

@Pops Va bene!

@Bart yeah, sadly.

jadarnel27

11:04 PM

@animuson What's going on with that?

Also, I think that this is a really interesting Meta question.

animuson

11:15 PM

Let's handle all the flags!

hichris123

@animuson Want any help?

Oh, can anyone tell me why there was a dip in the close queue like a few hours ago? hichris.erwaysoftware.com/closegraph.php

Bart

Bill being active?

hichris123

30

A: Bill the Lizard's Closing Antics

Bill is a moderator and likes to use /review as a tool for moderation. Bill gets an unlimited number of close votes, because he's a moderator. Bill's use of /review for moderation tasks has prompted us to create a special interface for moderators there, which we hope to have available in probab...

^ Has this ever been completed?

Bart

What part of "six to eight weeks" don't you understand?

:)

hichris123

@Bart Hmm, maybe just give you a diamond. :P

animuson

11:28 PM

@hichris123 Still waiting. ;P

Bart

Giving me a diamond? I'm not sure that's a wise thing to do

hichris123

@Bart Well maybe it was a literal six to eight weeks. :P

jadarnel27

@animuson Keep us posted on your progress =)

hichris123

> we've finally worked out the remaining details, and will be proceeding with the split in six to eight weeks. No, I'm not kidding, we're shooting for somewhere around the middle of January. Seriously, stop laughing, six to eight weeks is a perfectly reasonab .. I digress.

Heh, six to eight weeks strikes again. No mSE in sight. :)

rene

11:44 PM

@hichris123 I don't want to be an pita but it looks like your count of cv is off by 1000. Not that it makes a lot of difference...but I recorded here the number of tasks when I started my CV review action and if I look in the graph around the same time it is a 1000 more.

Is it the raw data or is highcharts playing tricks?

hichris123

@rene Was that UTC time? It's in UTC time on the graph (I think).

rene

21:44

hichris123

What day?

Oh, today.

rene

today

hichris123

Huh.