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@Bart I casted that, cuz you deleted the possible duplicate comment.. which you shouldn't delete... so it clearly states that you wanted to divert the traffic to your question.. As a reputed user, you shouldn't delete those comments.. — Mr. Alien 2 mins ago

Flyk

@JanDvorak shame they're planning on rolling it back since it was a mistake

Jan Dvorak

wait, what???

where can I rant about it?

Shadow Wizard

@Flyk if you want something to report, see what will happen when Skeet will reach 10000 bronze badges

Flyk

@ShadowWizard HEH

Jan Dvorak

2:29 PM

@ShadowWizard but only if he has >1k silver ones

how much does he actually have?

Bart

5350 bronze

Shadow Wizard

641,882 reputation, 250 gold, 3918 silver 5350 bronze

Bart

Not even close to 10k bronze badges ... slacker.

Jan Dvorak

yet

Shadow Wizard

@Bart yeah, I prepared this screenshot a while ago but eventually decided not to report just yet

Flyk

2:33 PM

what happens once he gets to a million rep?

does the reputation value start wrapping?

rene

The feature-request should be that reputation and badges are transferred among less fortunated users until the reputation and badge count no longer screws up the layout of the site.

Flyk

@user52800, there is really no need to bump year old posts for the sake of tiny edits. Every time you do so 3-5 people have to review your edit and it clutters the home page. I see that you're 33k on arcade so you already know that. — OGHaza 7 mins ago

-.-

SORRY RANDOM SO USER, I WILL LEAVE YOU TO YOUR LOW QUALITY CONTENT

rene

I might have bumped a few wordpress questions

Shadow Wizard

@Flyk sorry but I tend to agree... this edit is indeed too minor plus introduce new spelling mistake.

"whether there is" and "if exists" are the same

He should have Improved it and remove the spelling mistake but oh well

Bart

Myeah, the whole rollback- re-edit is a bit much.

Flyk

2:41 PM

@ShadowWizard blah, that's what happens when you've spent the last 90 minutes submitting edits

Bart

Good indication to take break from the hard work @Flyk ;)

Flyk

I need a shower, logging into SO makes me feel dirty

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Shadow Wizard

@Flyk yep, all good :)

Ryan Carlson

I posted this question yesterday, and two people downvoted it:

-2

Q: Incorrect reputation in dropdown

I made an edit to a question today. Then this happened: There is no other activity on the question from anyone. I see no way this could be anything but a bug. Update: Now, the day after, it shows the correct amount of reputation EDIT: I just found out that 2 actually equals 4, so this is a b...

Any idea why, so I can improve it?

Bart

No clue. Seems fair enough.

cough @rene stackoverflow.com/search?q=wordpess cough. :p

rene

2:53 PM

Now it's your turn @Bart :-)

Bart

I'm already writing research proposals here .... zzzz

Shadow Wizard

3:09 PM

@RyanCarlson maybe people thought it too triivial, dunno... fair report anyway.

Duncan

Is mail-search.apache.org down for anyone else?

1ntello

Yeah for me as well

Bart

yep

Shadow Wizard

@Nick you here?

Or @m0sa will do to

Jan Dvorak

Yes! no more negative infinity

Shadow Wizard

3:17 PM

Oh well, my question is: did you add this tooltip only recently?

Jan Dvorak

> deleted after 192.382 +/- 5s

Shadow Wizard

Very accurate, @Jan ;)

Why not nanoseconds? :D

Jan Dvorak

should I crank up the polling frequency?

Shadow Wizard

Nah, but IMO "deleted after 192 +- 5s would look better

Jan Dvorak

so, round the results?

Shadow Wizard

3:20 PM

Yup

Jan Dvorak

Might do. Will do. Thanks

Shadow Wizard

Maybe even "3 minutes and 12 seconds", if you're bored

Jan Dvorak

milestone for the next version

do you happen to know what the argument to toFixed is?

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak sure, amount of digits

not sure it's rounding though

wait

Jan Dvorak

> The number is rounded if necessary,

Shadow Wizard

3:24 PM

OK, it's rounding just fine

But using toFixed just to round doesn't sound right ;)

Jan Dvorak

I want the string form, though

    $checkbox.next().text(
        "deleted after " + (dt/1000).toFixed() + " +/- " + (dte/1000) + "s"
    );

Shadow Wizard

Yep, looking good

SPArchaeologist

@Flyk @Flyk, yep - but you also get 1 up.

Jan Dvorak

Firing up gitShell, then

Shadow Wizard

Did you post it on StackApps already?

Jan Dvorak

3:28 PM

nope, just userscripts.org and meta

and github

note to self: When creating a new script, create the dev branch immediately. And make sure your copy of the script updates from there.

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak any reason why not add here? Not that I care that much, just curious :-)

Jan Dvorak

I probably should

SPArchaeologist

...userscripts.org . I was just browsing it some minute ago looking for a Greasemonkey surrogate that would work on IE. Must see if Kango could suffice.

Jan Dvorak

My suggestion? Ditch IE

SPArchaeologist

@JanDvorak - to say the truth... if you want Grease you may also ditch Chrome, Safari, Opera... Not that ditching Safari -5- is something I would cry for....

Jan Dvorak

3:42 PM

I love Chrome

SPArchaeologist

Actually I was thinking of attempting a script to replicate the bash hat wearing functions.

m0sa

@ShadowWizard the only recent change was like 2 months ago for localization support, but it was there before that...

Shadow Wizard

Oh my... totally missed that! Thanks @m0sa :)

m0sa

np

Ryan Carlson

3:59 PM

I just gave Shog 2 gold badges!

Well, sort of...

Look at the Recent Badges here: meta.stackoverflow.com/help/badges

Shadow Wizard

4:14 PM

@RyanCarlson lol, serial badges!

Hope it won't get reversed... :D

BTW it can be see clearly here, two goldies in same minute

rene

4:37 PM

I assume blogging is so old-fashioned that no decent recent desktop-client is available? Until now all I've found is either crap or only supported on a mac...

Bart

Desktop client? For reading?

rene

No, maintenance, I need/want a backup/export of my current blog

Lance Roberts

5:09 PM

Can't believe someone downvoted this, just the facts:

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A: Why placing the tag name in the question title is bad?

The main tag is appended to the title for Google searches (by being added into the title element), so it doesn't need to be added to the title. Ultimate Team Reference Answer Reference 2 Reference 3 Reference 4

rene

I had a similar discussion yesterday where edited the title and left as comment to inform the OP about the reason for my edit. The OP was not amused... I moved on...

jadarnel27

5:29 PM

Downvoted because meta.

jadarnel27

5:39 PM

Such is the way of things. It is known.

Roving bands of meta thugs, downvoting perfectly legitimate posts. Haranguing users new and old with links and sarcasm. An environment of cold. A world desolate and unapproachable. A place of no hope, no return, no escape. META.

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Rebecca Chernoff

that's quite the perspective you have there (:

jadarnel27

Yeah. And now, lunch!

=)

Tim Stone

Oooh, what are you making us?

Undo

5:54 PM

Yay for new data dump!

Yay for new provider!

^ Probably not yay for that ;(

The speed is fine (maxed out my connection), but those errors might mean something bad.

> Announce error: Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker.

Amal Murali

Wow. I wish I had that much speed. The maximum speed I get is like 120 - 150 kB/s

Undo

Whoa, all the beta sites are in the dump now!

So with archive.org, does bittorent still look for piers? I'm not seeing any - is it because none exist yet?

Amal Murali

Do valid votes get recounted after a serial upvoting is reversed?

Undo

@AmalMurali I don't think so. But ask a dev.

Amal Murali

Shouldn't they be?

Undo

6:03 PM

I dunno

Lance Roberts

Recounted in which way? Your rep is updated with every transaction.

Amal Murali

I'll try to explain.

jadarnel27

@TimStone I'm at a chain restaurant called Bruegger's Bagels. Want anything from there? =P

Amal Murali

Say you get serially upvoted. And some of your answers got upvoted (valid votes) by different users. Now, after the first 20 votes by the user, you'll hit rep cap, and no more votes will be counted. After 24 hours or so, the incorrect votes will be invalidated, and the answerer will not receive any reputation from his correct answers.

Tim Stone

@jadarnel27 Probably. =P

Lance Roberts

6:11 PM

Yeh, I'm thinking you get hosed in that scenario.

Amal Murali

I think the votes for that day should be recalculated. Remove the invalid ones, recount the valid votes and give back the reputation.

Bart

@jadarnel27 I would downvote that if I could.

Amal Murali

goes to Jon Skeet's profile and casts 20 upvotes

Undo

Did the font for code formatting in chat get smaller?

Amal Murali

I think so.

That's how it looks here.

Undo

6:15 PM

Yup, here too

3ventic

same font size as the rest of the stuff though

Joe

@jadarnel27 Hey, we have one of those here too (Chicago area)... pretty good bagels, even to my two year old :)

Undo

Yum bagels

Do they have brown bagels?

Joe

Brown = ?

wheat?

or something specific

Undo

Brown = Brown

@jadarnel27 will explain

Bart

6:21 PM

Surely bagels are "brown".

jadarnel27

Brown enough for me, @Undo.

@Joe That's cool! Yeah, it's a pretty good place to eat. I wasn't sure how extensive the chain was, which is why added some context to my statement haha.

What is the message you were saying you'd downvote, @Bart? I can't tell on mobile.

Silly mobile chat interface.

Bart

Your description of Meta @jadarnel27.

jadarnel27

Ohhh. Yeah. That's what happens when I get hungry.

Bart

Whatever you do, don't become a writer then. Wouldn't like to see you anorexic.

jadarnel27

Well, I am a musician. Though thankfully I'm not financially dependent on that.

JoshC

6:36 PM

Has anyone ever seen someone make a tag edit, and then edit it again, undoing what they just did? stackoverflow.com/posts/3607018/revisions It's basically a tag rollback by the same person.

Pops

"I'm a musician, but I'm not good at it." -jadarnel27

animuson

@JoshC Oh the times you wish you could just flat-out delete suggested edits to reverse them.

Bart

@Pops Why do I now imagine jadarnel27 as the musical equivalent of

JoshC

@animuson Yes, they are potentially gaming the suggested edit system. 4+ so far.. i'm going to watch to see if they do that again.

rene

Great revisions in the suggested edit queue stackoverflow.com/posts/21316200/revisions

Bart

6:46 PM

... when it already has the SQL tag ...

animuson

goes to write another mod message for syntax highlighting

Undo

@animuson Isn't that... overkill?

Latest project: putting every per-site meta post into a MySQL db to run queries and stuff on and maybe find something interesting.

animuson

Have you seen his revision activity? He has a bunch of them for adding C# highlighting to a bunch of C# questions too...

Undo

@animuson So... ?

jadarnel27

@Pops Hey, I resent that! I have ~~dozens~~ dozen of CD sales on iTunes that prove otherwise (cc @Bart).

Undo

6:48 PM

I mean, it's not major enough to constitute a good edit, but... a mod message?

animuson

It's not like a mod message is a super-bad thing. It's just a message to a user...

Undo

Well yes, but...

animuson

People associate them to negatively because they have an optional suspension.

Undo

It's kinda scary :P

animuson

This is behavior that needs to be fixed.

Undo

6:49 PM

Exactly

Yeah, makes more sense now

Bart

"A gripping album filled with instant classics. A must have for every audiophile" - Not @jadarnel27 ... no really, I'm an actual reviewer

jadarnel27

Hahaha

How did I never think of that? goes to prime the reviews

I actually was in a paid music gig for several years, before I resigned somewhat-recently.

animuson

We've noticed that recently you've made a number of edits to posts regarding syntax highlighting. Unfortunately, many of them did not actually improve the post. Syntax highlighting is primarily inherited from the tags. For example, a question tagged with [tag:c#] will automatically inherit C# highlighting for all code in the question, and therefore does not require a syntax highlighting language hint.

Please pay extra attention when performing edits to ensure you do not edit a post to add a language hint where one is not needed. Also, consider **adding the proper tag** to the question, whe…

Bart

That sounds far too reasonable and not threatening or abusive at all. That's not why we elected you!

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animuson

Sadly, the flags queue is back up to 1400. :( After all that effort last night.

Rebecca Chernoff

7:05 PM

@animuson slacker. (;

Joe

How long does it take for 10k user flags to get automatically removed?

or does that ever happen?

I see 300+ flags in the 10k queue

and lots of them have 10+ votes on them

flags*

animuson

They never get automatically handled or expire.

Joe

So what's the point?

animuson

More flags bumps it to the top of the queue for moderators.

shrugs

Joe

Seems like that doesn't do much

then

animuson

7:08 PM

It doesn't, really.

Joe

Why not set up some of the easy ones - particularly NAA - to automatically be deleted when enough 10k users flag it?

animuson

Occasionally it will cause a particularly bad post to rise to the top, but usually NAA posts are not that "particularly bad" that it matters.

Joe

right

NAA are the main ones that 10k users can see

in the queue, so

animuson

I imagine they'll probably do some sort of automated flag-handling whenever they release the new flags queue, but who knows where that's at.

Joe

ah

animuson

7:12 PM

Seems like forever ago when they talked about it... Teasing us with the ability to handle flags individually...

@Rebecca Your pointy stick is needed! Get them moving!

Joe

Lol

good luck with that

so is there any real reason to review the 10k flag queue?

VLQs?

animuson

Because you want a shiny gold badge? :3

Joe

hmm

I think I have htat

;)

Bart

@RebeccaChernoff's chat participation shows a surprisingly disturbing pattern of calling people slackers, lazy, or just laughing at them ... hmmm

animuson

Well, those "invalid flags" flags do help us a lot, TBH.

Joe

7:18 PM

ah

quickly spotting ones that can be dismissed?

Bart

7:39 PM

@animuson Some help here? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/217251/…

Rebecca Chernoff

@Bart heh, uh...oy? (:

Bart

:D

Undo

Yay, my script is working!

Importing all the per-site meta posts into a big table

Anyone have any suggestions for patterns to look for?

Rebecca Chernoff

what are you doing?

Undo

@RebeccaChernoff I have all posts from every per-site meta in one table

All 139,000 of them

Rebecca Chernoff

7:52 PM

I gathered that part (:

Undo

And now I'm looking to do things with the data :P

Rebecca Chernoff

ah, didn't know if you had something you were already looking for

Undo

No, I'm just looking for patterns.

Manishearth

He has tables of comments he wants to flag

I bet he'll do the same with the meta posts

Undo

@Manishearth Hah! Good idea!

But no. Too much work.

select * from (select COUNT(*) as count, Body from (select Body from Posts where PostTypeId=1) p group by Body) a where count>1 order by count desc

^ Kinda amusing

jadarnel27

7:56 PM

Ewwww.

Undo

Looks for duplicate posts across the meta sites

@jadarnel27 Yeah, but it works.

For example, this was posted 41 times throughout the metas:

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