How does it happen where a user doesn't get a single upvote on any of his 11 answers over the course of a few months? stackoverflow.com/users/1224964/…

Literally a rep score of 1 - poor guy

gonna throw him a single upvote... feel free to give him one too

Uh oh, my comment flags took the site offline.

On a Sunday night, too.

Is this scheduled maintenance or did someone foo the bar again?

I think it's worse than someone fooing the bar - it looks like the bar might have gotten bazzed.

lol

And they don't schedule maintenance for Sunday nights.

Meta's /ask is down too :(

everywhere's down

dba etc

Yeesh. And I was flagging comments.

@DannyBeckett Eeeek!

yup!!

We might have to fail over to Oregon.

Meta in read-only.

dba.stackexchange.com is now up

SO is still down

now dba's in read-only (wasn't just then)

Stop breaking things!

They all are.

@animuson I swear it was that last comment flag.

This is probably all just to make me quit flagging stuff.

@animuson Do you lose the mod stuff when in read-only mode?

Wow, read-only is thorough

Everything except SO out of read-only.

I would assume so. I'm pretty sure read-only disables literally all firms of user input.

Otherwise it wouldn't be very read-only.

brace for mSO question flood. Arm your mod hammer for duplicates, @animuson. Meta is back up.

lmao

My hammer is pretty fragile on mobile.

@animuson Glass hammer?

Maybe more like a rubber play hammer.

It squeaks every time you close something.

how to find animuson: listen for rhythmic squeaking

> After our weekly index optimization, SQL server is no longer caching our query plans causing high CPU load. This will likely overload our CPUs tomorrow if we don’t get this resolved.

Although moderating on this phone isn't nearly as bad as on my old phone. Considering it was next to impossible on my old phone.

SQL FORGOT HOW TO CACHE!!! PARTY!!!

Party will be cached.

I just realized I only have an hour left at work. :)

Sooo.... if I flag a bunch of stuff will I break it again?

Did your previous flags vanish or something?

@animuson Oh, that would be a good thing to check :P

@animuson Doesn't look like it... but they seem to have been handled during the outage :P

Maybe a bug marked everything as helpful!

I have to wonder how they notify all the devs - something like the first one to notice sends out a, 'you better get in the hangout right now' text message, or what?

I'd be interested to know that myself

@jadarnel27 Stack Exchange's SQL forgot how to cache!

They probably activate some emergency alarm similar to a weather alert box that omits an obnoxious noise to awaken and summon them.

lol

@animuson The same thing must happen when someone posts something on mSO with 'injection' in the title.

So long as it is not preceeded by the word "botox."

@Undo I saw. I've been perusing the transcript.

@jadarnel27 To sum it up: I cast one too many comment flags and caused SQL to stop caching, putting the entire SE infrastructure in danger.

^ A momentous occasion.

I should quit casting flags until right before midnight on Dec. 31.

@Undo Why does helpful flags not have a comma when profile views does?

Perhaps we should rename this room "the place where Undo constantly talks about his flagging habits."

@jadarnel27 Speaking of my flagging habits....

Apparently this employee leaving doesn't know how to set an alarm... Pretty sad when the alarm company is calling me moments after they walk out the door...

Also, why do I have to be AFK whenever exciting things happen?

@michaelb958 I dunno. I don't want to get skewered with a giant comma, though, so you ask :D.

Is the question of whether to edit code in answers the subject of a religious war on MSO?

@JonathanHobbs Kinda.

It seems people generally agree that typos should be fixed, but beyond that there's division: one camp considers the answer to be the original author's responsibility, and that any code problem beyond typos should be resolved via comments or downvoting. The other camp considers the answer to be community property and considers it a good idea to fix apparently broken code so that future visitors can benefit.

I think there is not a third camp.

The third camp is the people that don't really care. Like me.

Right. :)

My wife made chili tonight, and it was awesome. This is definitely chili weather.

Well. We both made it. But I mainly just chopped stuff.

@Emracool that is pretty silly

But not as ridiculous as if refreshing the page IP banned you

Don't you hate it when you flag as VLQ before realising it's spam?

@JonathanHobbs I would fix a small typo in someone's code (e.g. System.out.prntln), but I wouldn't change much more than that. So perhaps I'm a member of a small faction of the second camp.

IMO, this is a poor question: stackoverflow.com/questions/20185689/…. Yet it already has 5 upvotes in 2 hours. Worthy of flagging for moderator attention (r.e. voting ring) or should I just ignore it?

Hey, it has got a lot of code in there, so it must be good.

Shit, I didn't notice that. Good spot, Bart.

And given that it's a new user, it would have ended up in the first post queue, where an upvote is a valid action.

I must have been distracted by all the prose.

Ah, that makes more sense.

Wish I could say that same about his follow-up comments.

I've just discovered out little Nespresso coffee machine can pump out foamy milk in about 30s. Nice.

Cue the "OMG teh site is offline" Meta posts.

I love how the status messages says "We are currently working with Microsoft to resolve this issue". Little do they realise that Microsoft support just looks everything up on Stack Overflow.

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/208850/…

My predictive abilities are amazing

The amount of people stating they don't know how to program without Stack Overflow is simply scary.

OMG Meta is in read-only mode. Now where do I post that it is in read-only mode?

meta.meta.stackoverflow.com of course!

Offline ALL THE SITES!

Browsing through twitter.com/search?q=%23stackoverflow&src=typd at times like this is always good fun.

@Duncan That's kinda the first camp, if it's a typo and not "oh, he used console.out, he must have meant system.out"

@JonathanHobbs Ah, yes. Seems I can't read.

Whoa, one of my comments has 33 upvotes...

Good luck to Stack Exchange with their database issues. Many of us know the stress of trying to fix a problem in production as quickly as possible. I can't imagine the added stress of the broken thing being such a high visibility product.

My happy thoughts / prayers / good vibes / whatever you're comfortable with are with the devs today.

May you all have lots of brown.

That too. Especially that.

I guess if it all goes wrong, they could just wipe the database and start over. Right?

Would sort the close vote queue problem.

Haha, I guess that depends on how you define the problem.

Given the amount of posts on the subject, the number is the problem. So reduce the number and you're done.

Sound logic, @Bart. I think.

Why SE hasn't hired me yet is beyond me. "Senior ideas man" would be appropriate I'd say.

@ThiefMaster That's some dedication right there

My days visited isn't that far from yours though: 943 days, 2 consecutive

I can't find teacher's lounge so I'll ask here: How can I move an answer from a question that was closed due to being a duplicate to the duplicate itself? That is, someone gave a good and accepted answer to a question, then the question got closed as duplicate. I'd like to move the answer.

@PeterFlom chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/4/teachers-lounge

@Bart "In-Depth Ideas Organising Taskmaster"?

Throw in a "Senior" somewhere, and we have a deal. I need to annoy @jadarnel27 somehow.

So... Senior IDIOT?

Nothing has ever sounded so appropriate.

When we take this show on the road, I'd like to be the short funny one.

I'm freakishly tall and have no sense of humour. So that should work.

@Bart Thanks for reminding me of my unfortunate faux pas in making fun of...my own job title.

By the way, how tall is "freakishly tall" these days? I'm not even 6 feet, so "fairly tall" people are all tall to me.

Ah, let's see what that is in "American"

6 feet 7 inches

Jeez. That is tall.

That's a whole foot taller than I am, we clearly can't be in any pictures together.

I think we'd do everyone a favour by not including my face to begin with. So that would still work.

Oh, that's right. You would use the metric system. Since you're anywhere but America.

My project for this week is to rewrite the FAQ Index to make it easier to find things. I can barely figure out where to put a new link, let alone find an existing one.

@animuson I thought about doing that once. There didn't seem to be any interest from anyone else, so I decided against it.

@Pops Oh great mighty Community Manager, I doth haveth a question.

Shog's not here.

@Pops Ok, if I drop the 'mighty' part will that work?

Yeah, okay.

I'm working on a system where I fetch the /info info for a site from the API, then store it in my DB every few hours.

I'm planning to make myself a psuedo-moderator-stats dashboard for one of the beta sites I'm involved in.

Question: Will this get me impaled with a giant letter, or not?

I don't have an official answer for that off the top of my head. But unless you're pulling down a massive amount of data, I don't think it'll be a problem.

> All the users who chasing him down the street with sharpened letters, except for one... This used was carrying a three-pronged pitchfork. "What? It's an oddly-shaped M!"

@animuson Sounds more like a factory-second Y to me. Where's that from?

I just made it up.

@Pops Ok - is it OK to publish these graphs I make on the meta, etc? There's a reason that only mods get to see the stats, right?

(namely to reduce freaking out)

Anything that's really private wouldn't be exposed by the API in the first place, so you should be good on that front as well.

Ok, sounds great! Thanks!

Oh crap, I need to drop this package off at the post office. Be right back!

I'm not aware of any "security by obscurity" on our end.

@Pops I just find it odd that mods see stats but not 10k's, and figured there must be a reason.

They might get stats that you can't assemble from what's in the API.

Oh. That's why.

tries to find way to get historical /info data

Should iap be synonymized to in-app-purchase?

@Pops Haha, why is this question a FAQ??? Does anyone care if we remove that? It's not even in FAQ format...

Are you kidding? It has 608 views!

Ok Step 1 is go through all the existing entries and remove the tag from the ones that aren't really FAQs.

Step 2 is ???.

@animuson You forgot profit.

My school released a survey asking me to rate a statement from "strongly disagree" to "strongly agree." The statement is "Women who enjoy computing are a little strange." Now, I think anyone who enjoys computing is a little strange, including myself. So, since women are a subset of anyone, technically, I agree. But I think answering honestly might not be the best action here.

Why didn't they get someone from computing to write that survey? We wouldn't have these kinds of problems....

Haha. That is excellent.

I edited all the tags. Except the Yahoo tag. No one ever wants to touch a Yahoo tag...

an [expertsexchange] tag would be worse!

viewed 127 times with +15 asked 1 year ago, cant believe I forgot to add a bounty e_e

I'm stealing the pin icon for the new FAQ index.

I feel like this question should be closed. But I can't really decide on a close reason.

"Because I'm an evil mod. Deal with it".

That one seems like it could be saved with editing.

What's the fun in that?

@Pops Perhaps. It's true that, initially, part of my problem with the question was that it's unclear.

It bugs me when people think you will only read a word if it's in capitals.

@Duncan Nice edit!

Still not sure it makes complete sense. But perhaps a little better.

I could say "I've never had it render as something other than a table." I don't know if there's a source that one could cite saying that the ASP.NET engine will always render GridViews as HTML tables.

@Duncan bash.org/?835030 (very mildly NSFW due to one curse word)

Has it always been the case that comments from the OP are rendered with a gray background? Just spotted that on a meta question and it surprised me.

For as long as I can remember, yes.

Curse my work monitor and its shoddy colour temperatures.

@Pops Haha, that's excellent.

@Pops What do you think about these two questions as FAQs:? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/5280/embrace-the-non-googlers meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/8724/…

They really don't look all that FAQ-ish to me...

But then my idea of a FAQ is more that the question has a canonical, definitive answer. These look more like discussions that are just popular.

Those were a bigger problem "back in the day." The fact that they don't seem very FAQ-ish now is a testament to their own success. (Or at least the success of the values they embody.) They're both corollaries to "don't be rude" so I'd un-FAQ-ify at most one of them.

I'll just mark any entries that I think should be removed from the FAQ with a red X.

Stack Exchange is not responsible for any permanent marks on your monitors left by you Sharpie-ing bad FAQ entries.

Darn! I was hoping to get a new monitor out of this!

I had Tipp-Ex all over my screen before I found the chat edit button.

Ok, that wasn't funny.

gets out the Tipp-Ex

I had to look up what Tipp-Ex was.

I'm guessing you're not an American.

Ah, no. I'm British.

What's the American equivalent?

White out. Or brand name WiteOut.

@Pops Here's a start to what I was thinking for a new FAQ index: pastebin.com/r7GJ1vsM (obviously not done yet)

Fun fact: when I originally uploaded the image of the pin and added to to the first link, I initially wrote ![Pim][P] and copied it to several places before noticing.

Using with (nolock) on every single SELECT query is probably not necessary, person-that-wrote-this-code.

In this case, I would say it's probably not harmful either.

But it certainly makes it look like you don't know what you're doing.

@animuson I like that idea, but I have two questions:

Why are the images JPEG

What does a "pinned" question mean?

Also, request to close (my vote expired): stackoverflow.com/questions/3929325/…

Why not JPEG? That's just the default format that I save images in.

The pin is stolen from the Help Center. It's used to pin certain topics which are of greater importance to the top of the list.

"Why not JPEG?"

Introducing... Generation loss

I usually save things as JPEG when I don't particularly care about the image quality.

Especially when posting things to Facebook, since they super-compress all the images and make them look like crap anyways.

Facebook, when they resize them, always save the result as JPG because they're commonly smaller (because most people only post photos, which is what JPG was designed for)

All I'm saying is that if we actually do that proposal, the icons should be PNG

I would be hard pressed to think of something I care about less than the file format / quality of a tiny icon image on a website.

I would also wager that many people would not notice the artifacts / other issues that come from JPEG in an image that small.

249 views? Something tells me that entry flopped big time.

Haha, wow. That one seems like it would be pretty self explanatory.

It seems like that information should just be included on the FAQ index, rather than in a separate question.

Indeed! That seems like a far more appropriate location.

De-FAQ-ified

I'm not very good with creating jsFiddles but heh: jsfiddle.net/2d26q

I'm getting a little frustrated with my job. I feel like that is affecting my attitude.

I didn't open an IDE all last week.

It was all meetings, paperwork, conference calls, getting approvals, and waiting on other people to do stuff.

I should say that I didn't open an IDE at work. I did at home haha.