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jadarnel27

1:30 AM

...browse.

Tim Stone

But not brown?

Tim Yi Jiang

... browne

Tim Stone

Well played...I think

jadarnel27

I like to shake things up every now and then. With words that sounds similar to brown.

Tim Stone

Hmm, how to implement this feature...

jadarnel27

1:38 AM

@TimStone did you try using magic?

Tim Yi Jiang

@TimStone did you try using jQuery?

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimStone whatever you do, do not use code.

Tim Stone

@jadarnel27 I did not. I apparently did think it would be a good idea to draw random things on my fingers using my Stack Exchange Blue pen, though. Which concerns me a little...I may have finally lost it.

@RebeccaChernoff Well I could take the same route I did with the API authentication for the blog and just let it slide long enough that you do it for me...

@TimYiJiang I'm sure jQuery is involved somewhere. :P

Tim Yi Jiang

I can't stop giggling at that image in the bug report showing someone asking about 'corn jobs'

Tim Stone

...Say wha?

jadarnel27

1:43 AM

The finger drawings are acceptable only if you were drawing small faces on your fingertips, @TimStone. Otherwise, you're definitely crazy.

Tim Stone

One of them is a stick person, does that count?

jadarnel27

...it's close. Partial insanity.

Tim Stone

Ignore my deformed pinky.

Tim Yi Jiang

~~corn~~ cron job

jadarnel27

@TimStone Hahahaha, something is wrong with yo' brainz.

Tim Stone

1:50 AM

@TimYiJiang Ahahaha

@jadarnel27 Yeaaaaah....

Tim Yi Jiang

Are you drunk? At this hour? :P

Tim Stone

While I have been drinking, I can assure you I'm significantly more idly bored than drunk. :P

Unfortunately I only have some 9% ABV beer left, which has a rather unpleasant burn...so soda time it is.

Tim

2:16 AM

Does this SEDE query run for anyone else? data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/42823/…

I found it in this question on meta:meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/100529/… But whenever I run it, I always get a timeout

Tim Yi Jiang

@Tim No, tried it yesterday, didn't work either

You may have to set some of the limits higher

Either that or the query really is too big to handle

Tim

ok, at least I know it is not just my browser or something

thank you =)

Tim Yi Jiang

Oh, it has nothing to do with your browser

Well, most likely not

Tim Stone

Just eye balling it, that query will be pretty expensive.

Tim Yi Jiang

Yeah, no doubt

@Tim You can find the same information on the top user page of any tag

Tim Stone

2:21 AM

Ah, hrm. I can't even run it locally because I was being lazy and used SoSlow to import the data dump, which didn't include some of the columns |:

Tim

@TimYiJiang ah, never knew that. good to know.

jadarnel27

3:31 AM

@TimStone I prefer the 40% burn to a 9% burn. If it's gonna burn, might as well be worth it ;-)

Tim Stone

Well, it's not supposed to burn like that, I guess...So it's either a me problem, or it needs to sit a bit. :P

jadarnel27

Oh haha. Well that makes sense, then.

@TimStone What type of beer?

Tim Stone

It's an imperial stout.

jadarnel27

Sounds classy.

Tim Stone

Yeah, and apparently other people can taste the flavours described on the bottle, so I'm hoping it's a timing thing and not just me. :P

Ah...forgot about wanting to go get my headphones fixed. Argh.

mootinator

3:51 AM

...

Tim Stone

The police didn't come knocking at your door, right?

mootinator

So far so good.

Tim Stone

Excellent. I saw you went for round two, heh.

mootinator

=)

jadarnel27

@TimStone You should really take care of that. Slacker!

mootinator

3:52 AM

@TimStone I do live outside of their jurisdiction though.

Tim Stone

Ah, even better. :P

jadarnel27

Hahah, I read that as well. You're a rebel @mootinator =)

Tim Stone

@jadarnel27 I should! The mall is 30 minutes away though, and I haven't gotten much done yet this weekend.

mootinator

They'll have to catch me while I'm in town for work =)

Tim Stone

They'll ambush you. Watch out for inconspicuous drivers texting at intersections.

jadarnel27

3:53 AM

@TimStone 30 minutes isn't too bad, assuming there's no royalty in town.

Also, the weekend is no time to be getting things done.

Nonsesne!

Tim Stone

I just pretend that the weekend doesn't really exist.

It's pretty much like working from home on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

mootinator

@TimStone I should invest in some tiny ghost-car style hubcaps with which to confuse them.

Tim Stone

Heh :P

jadarnel27

@TimStone Well that's certainly one strategy =)

Tim Stone

It's not a very happy strategy, but.

jadarnel27

4:00 AM

Right. I got really burnt out bringing work home with me. My ex said that I talked about "sequel queries" in my sleep most nights.

Tim Stone

Haunted by the ghosts of subselects passed.

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jadarnel27

Luckily, the place I work now really only needs, like, half a web developer most of the time. So it's pretty laid back.

@TimStone Hahah. That is awesome.

Tim Stone

@jadarnel27 Ah, that's pretty good then, as long as you aren't getting bored or anything.

jadarnel27

4:16 AM

@TimStone Not too bored. I sort of don't like the fact that I'm the only developer. I'd really like to have the experience of working on a team.

I feel like I could learn a lot from working with other developers. Seeing the way they solve problems and whatnot.

Tim Stone

Well, as long as you have a decent team anyway :P

O_o

Hmm, there's a query in Data Explorer which looks like it was mangled in a merge at some point...

But apparently that method isn't used anywhere, so no one noticed. :P

mootinator

So, apparently the power is going to flicker every 5 minutes.

Tim Stone

Sounds rather inconvenient.

mootinator

Yeah, I have to watch netflix on my laptop instead of my ps3 D:

Otherwise it'll just be checking the disk over and over.

Must finish rum

Night.

Tim Stone

G'night

jadarnel27

4:52 AM

@TimStone True, that would be important. I have a opportunity coming up, but it would mean leaving the employee position I have right now for a 1-2 year contract position.

Tim Stone

Hmm

jadarnel27

It's a touch choice. I'd lose the employee benefits (401k, company insurance, etc). But the contract position is at a larger company (which is something I've wanted to try out), and it's on a team.

And it pays significantly better, as far as base pay goes (probably to make up for the lack of benefits).

balpha

8:52 AM

@jeremybanks @Flexo @TimYiJiang hover of this comment

This comment was posted using the Stack Exchange API. — George Edison Jul 24 at 6:09

Anonymous

9:18 AM

That's a good idea.

Tim Yi Jiang

Probably is, yes. The thing is, I'm still not entirely sure how this is suppose to be useful

If this is a replacement for, say, what proforma comments is doing now, the added bit behind it makes the comment, well, less friendly

balpha

9:31 AM

The idea is enabling people to use apps for writing. Comments are, as Rebecca said, just a first step, also for us to look at how it's being used. You'll never know what people come up with, that's somewhat the point of an API.

it's also heavily rate limited

see api.stackexchange.com/docs/write

Pekka

9:56 AM

Ohh boy

I can think of so many cool use cases

The HATE COMMENT GENERATOR

The RTFM GENERATOR

Just scroll through a list of new questions and click on those that you want to hate on.

The whole thing could be accompanied by a laser animation and a "pew! pew!" sound effect

Seriously though, I can't think of a use case for API-driven comments either.

But I guess we'll see, you never know.

> Some examples of write abuse that will be punished:
> "Auto-commenting" based on post heuristics.

That blocks all the ideas that first came to mind ;)

balpha

@Pekka without it, all (e.g.) SE mobile apps would always be read-only

that's the point -- enable people to write via means other than the website

but still people, not bots

ThiefMaster

10:16 AM

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Q: Show recent API-made comments for 10k users/mods to review

Since chances are good that even with the limitations some people will abuse the new write API it would probably be a good idea to show all comments made by it on a page within the 10k tools or mod tools. The best order for entries to be displayed would probably be a combination of how new the a...

would probably be a good idea at some point

Pekka

@balpha ahh, true true

Flexo

11:22 AM

Is the URL in the user profile: stackoverflow.com/users/1560703/bboyse allowed? I don't particularly want to view it to see if it's what it looks like it might be...

balpha

11:36 AM

well, the front page seems mostly SFW. I don't want to click through though...

unregistered spam account anyway, I'll just kill it

Tim Yi Jiang

12:08 PM

Gah, this is so annoying - Chrome is displaying an extra px of margin on a button, which usually won't be a problem, but this one time I want to display a button inside an input box it has to annoy me like this

Pekka

1:53 PM

Add an intelligent answer to this question and get Meta REPZ

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Q: Serve careers widgets for people to embed in their sites

How about careers serving HTML snippets and JavaScript embeds for people to put into their own sites, CVs and profiles? That way, people who have a CV outside careers wouldn't have to maintain two data sets; the JavaScript snippets could also come as pre-styled iframes, which is nice if you're n...

feature-request careers

22 hours to go!

Tim Stone

2:43 PM

@balpha Out of curiosity, do you have numbers on how many message attempts end up rate-limited? I'm guessing it must happen to other people a lot more often than it does for me for it to be such an issue. I didn't think I typed that slowly, but maybe so. :P

balpha

Hmm we don't explicitly record it, but it's a good question actually. Let me look at the server logs, based on route and response code that should by possible to find out

mootinator

I get rate limited every time I go on a rant.

Makes me sad.

balpha

that's exactly the point, as Shog9's answer points out :)

@TimStone random server, 24 hours: 16736 posts to messages/new, out of which 193 have response code 409

Tim Stone

Hmm, interesting.

Tim Yi Jiang

2:58 PM

1.15% of all messages

1 out of 100 would not be too annoying. Of course, my guess is that the number isn't so evenly distributed

Some users would see this far more often than others

balpha

interestingly, the total messages are almost 50/50 among chat.se and chat.so, but chat.so has almost twice as many throttled messages as chat.se

        | # messages | # throttled
chat.so |       8007 |         123
chat.se |       8125 |          67

mootinator

Probably about 60 attempted oneboxings of a dev related xkcd that day.

Tim Stone

That seems fairly in line with the source of the complaints, I imagine.

mootinator

Check out this comic: <rate limited>

Tim Yi Jiang

Hehe

Yeah, I think it would be nice if the pattern of normal message immediately followed by oneboxed message be not throttled as heavily

That's probably one of the few ways which I can hit the throttle

Of course some people like to type very short messages, as if they were on IM.

I think forcing people to type complete sentences is not a bad idea :P

balpha

3:05 PM

yep

agreed

:)

Tim Stone

:P

balpha

for the curious, this is the current throttle curve:

Read as: When typing as fast as you can, after the Xth message you have to wait Y seconds

Tim Stone

Does the 20-second cooldown also result in chat bursting into flames and your computer disconnecting itself from the internet until you regain sanity?

M. Tibbits

Is this already in use?

or is it always a 5 second thing?

hmm

balpha

@M.Tibbits is what already in use?

M. Tibbits

3:13 PM

the current throttle curve you posted?

balpha

yes, that has not changed in two years

M. Tibbits

so this question is upset with that rate curve?

wow.

Flexo

5:09 PM

@M.Tibbits that curve blocks a common use case though: one box a link and comment on it immediately after

really I want to onebox something and attach a comment to it

but that's not possible, so the next best workaround is to type them both, cut the comment and paste it into a message immediately afterwards

but that's too fast for the throttle curve normally

it's annoying in busy chat where the comment gets split from the oneboxed item

was stackoverflow.com/revisions/11711139/1 to get around the quality filter?

Flexo

6:02 PM

sorry, i have meant to put each on separate lines but the formatting of SO wrapped them all on a few lines. — kellogs 7 mins ago

not sure that really answers it

Anonymous

6:18 PM

What a confusing response. :P

Flexo

looks like lines bart writes on the board at the beginning of the simpsons

Anonymous

He did bump into What can I do when getting “It does not meet our quality standards”?, but didn't follow its advice or even clean up his post. :(

Flexo

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Q: mysqltuner and slow logs

[!!] Slow queries: 100% (797K/797K) This is what mysqltuner sometimes has to say about my despicable server. What's up with this?

mysql performance

is a weird way to ask that too

Wes

8:54 PM

Anyone there?

Flexo

@Wes nope

Wes

Oh well if there was someone here. I'd ask for help formatting one of my answers cause it came out wrong. (I used the code buttons in the editor)

stackoverflow.com/questions/11581767/…

Flexo

will take a look

Wes

Thanks flexo

(As in bender and flexo) or as in adobe/apache flex?

Flexo

@Wes futurama

@Wes code inside a list you'll need to indent with 8 spaces not 4 to markup as code

Wes

8:57 PM

yeah I though probably

Bollox em do I just need to trawl through each line

pressing space 4 times?

The code button doesn't work

Flexo

@Wes I think there's a userscript that makes it easier to do, or you can trick it into doing it for you

want me to do it?

Wes

If you wouldn't mind.

sorry to be a pain

but I spent quite a while looking for an answer to that problem

btw is there a bug here for that

Flexo

@Wes the trick is to indent it once, unintent the first line manually, reintent the whole lot and then manually take the first line back up to 4

@wes - I also removed "If anyone wants to give a better answer then I will accept that." - that should be a comment on the question I think

Wes

Okay

That was actually from the old revision. I just wanted some exposure to the question

didn't work

got no answers since the bounty.

Flexo

@Wes :( looks like a tricky problem though

Wes

9:02 PM

I've pretty much nailed the solution though

I'm supprised I needed to write that much code to be honest.

Flexo

I don't really know much about spring

got to run now anyway

Wes

yeah me too actually.

thanks for your help

its appreciated

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