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12:44 AM
...round.
 
1:36 AM
Yay another number to add to my stalking list contacts...
 
2:15 AM
I uh...what? Up to 42 years?
 
@TimStone: Most all schools are funded by the government. Their computer systems are therefore protected by federal laws and hacking into them is a federal offense == harsh punishment.
 
@TimStone That's ridiculous, yes. :|
 
3:16 AM
\o/?
 
"\o/" confirmed. Awesomeness.
 
Perhaps Gaming is glitched since it should say Arqade now, no?
 
It does on the actual site.
@jadarnel27 \o/ There's another component that replaces the unwieldy list on the query execution page.
 
@TimStone Ah, that should be good. Those things load mega-slowly sometimes.
 
Heh, that's what reminded me that I needed to work on this feature.
Although that likely needs to be addressed separately too. Data Explorer was causing abusive requests for the icons, so waffles implemented a local cache, but if you're the unlucky person who sends the request that causes the images to be refreshed, you can be there for a while.
Think I timed it once and it was taking over 11 seconds, heh.
 
3:30 AM
@TimStone Ohhh! I think I must have been that unlucky person before.
 
 
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8:31 AM
Hi guys. I have a question to which the answer probably is "caching". But given that this question was deleted, why do I still have the rep for it? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/141550/…
 
@Bart did it meet the rules for keeping rep after deleltion?
 
ah @flexo , there are rules for that? That's new to me
I don't know
 
Shog9 on March 05, 2012

If you’ve been around Meta Stack Overflow the past few days, you’ve seen a fair bit of conversation sparked by the recent changes to how reputation is calculated:

To be clear: reputation values are not changing, every action in the system is still worth the same amount. Here’s what will be different:

Your reputation will be correct at all times

Deletions will have a much more immediate effect on reputation, not waiting on a recalc (but reputation sync takes up to 5 minutes on a delete/undelete action; as to not block the user’s response thread, it’s offloaded to a background queue) …

 
Ah yeah, score of 3 or greater fits I think (Had 14 or 15)
 
It wasn't visible for 60 days, though.
 
8:35 AM
I did not know about that. Thanks
 
I think the explanation in this case is actually that the system deleted it.
 
So bug?
Or takes time
 
If I recall correctly, a daily process should fix things up later.
 
Okay, no problem. I expected as much. Glad to have that clarified.
 
You can still do a manual rep recount which may/may not change things
 
8:38 AM
Mwah, I'm in no hurry to see my precious rep disappear. Let me hold on to it a little while longer.
:)
 
 
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10:07 AM
Advertisement as banner will not give the idea for end-users how the can solve the issue they currently face. Ok, thank you all for your comments. I will give a try to post a couple of answers where I introduce myself as representative of the company. — Maria 7 mins ago
missed the point?
 
10:22 AM
sometimes the flag text length restriction is very limiting
 
11:06 AM
-4
A: calculate age from date in textbox in C#

user1528573Answers should be downvoted only if it doesnt provide the solution.

sigh
 
 
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12:44 PM
@pankar just copy and paste the first answer that appears and then claim they copied you. — ForkandBeard 2 hours ago
 
@TimYiJiang I thought that was going to be people who send the same HTML twice in multi-part mime messages, once as text/plain and once as html
or send a totally different message in the text/plain version
 
I really wish more people would be OpenID consumers and skip the BS "it's less secure" thing
 
1:37 PM
Flagged a one-line Jon Skeet answer as "not an answer", got disputed because, of course, he edited it into a pearl. What is my penance?
 
@ErnestFriedman-Hill 20 friendly replies to "plz require explain all downvotes"?
 
Do they all have to be different, or can I plagarize myself?
 
@Flexo I wish my bank would implement actual two-factor auth. >:/
 
@TimStone mine have done it fairly sensibly. They do have a friendly green tick that appears next to the fields on the form, but it turns out they didn't do the really dumb thing there
 
So, random's edit to the bounty-remarks tag wiki is pretty amusing =)
 
1:51 PM
Hahah, nice.
 
Who's the guy in the picture? Looks kind of as if I've seen him before.
 
The Most Interesting Man in the World is an advertising campaign for the Dos Equis brand of beer, produced by the marketing firm Euro RSCG for Cuauhtémoc Moctezuma Brewery. The ads feature Jonathan Goldsmith as "the world's most interesting man" and are narrated by Frontline's Will Lyman. Goldsmith has stated that his friend, actor Fernando Lamas, was an inspiration in creating the character. The advertisements first began appearing in the United States in 2006. Sales strategy and results The agency's rationale for the brand strategy was defined thus: "He is a man rich in stories and ex...
 
> ...telling him that he had asked his young son what he wanted to be when he grew up, and the boy replied: "I want to be The Most Interesting Man In The World. Stay thirsty my friends."
That guy might want to keep a close eye on his son.
Just like I may want to leave to go into the office before I'm extra late. |: sighs
 
I just did five questions on complex numbers and found I got 0/5 of them correct. I should correct them, but I feel like throwing up if I have to draw another Argand diagram
 
2:16 PM
What sort of questions, @TimYiJiang?
 
Extra spaces before/after question titles are typically trimmed on submit, right?
 
@TimStone wow my pension fund has the worst password policy I've ever seen: I get mailed the password in the post every month!
(it doesn't change from month to month either)
 
2:34 PM
@balpha I object. Today I am the most interesting man in the world (so long as nobody here buys me a cake, then I am the most unfriendly man in the world. Seriously people, it's just the anniversary of me realizing I hate all of you, why on earth would I want cake?)
 
@balpha very worthwhile.
They've obviously figured something out that let them get by all the age police
 
possible duplicate of [Is there a policy on dangerous answers? ](meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/102536/…) — Popular Demand 21 mins ago
 
@PopularDemand the space in the auto inserted URL breaks it
I got hit by that the other day, but I think it's SE modifications doing it isn't it?
 
The URL? The space there is appended to the title.
 
2:49 PM
@PopularDemand but I've only seen it break possible duplicate comments recently
 
3:08 PM
I've never seen it break anything until that one I linked. I guess I can consider this a known issue, and forget about it now.
 
| rev2 = Alternative Press | rev2Score = (8/10) | rev3 = Blender | rev3Score = | rev4 = Entertainment Weekly | rev4Score = B− | rev5 = Piero Scaruffi | rev5Score = (6/10) | rev6 = PopMatters | rev6Score = | rev7 = Q | rev7Score = | rev8 = Rolling Stone | rev8Score = | rev9 = Uncut | rev9Score = }} Comfort Eagle is the fourth studio album by American band Cake. It was released on 24 July 2001. Comfort Eagle was Cake's first release on Columbia Records. On its opening week, Comfort Eagle sold about 72,000 copies, debuting at number 13 on the Billboard 200. On February 2, 2003 the alb...
^^^ CAKE, for @jco
 
CakePHP is an open source web application framework. It is written in PHP, modeled after the concepts of Ruby on Rails, and distributed under the MIT License. History CakePHP started in 2005. The community has since grown and spawned several sub-projects. CakePHP is not a port of Ruby on Rails to PHP, but makes use of many of its concepts. In October 2009, project manager Garrett Woodworth and developer Nate Abele resigned from the project to focus on their own projects, including the Lithium framework (previously part of the CakePHP project). The remaining development team continued to...
 
@Shog9 Okay, but did you buy that cake? Looks pirated to me.
 
Stolen cake is sweetest
@mootinator Now that is cruel
 
@Shog9 are they good? Are they on Spotify?
 
3:18 PM
@jcolebrand Yes. And I don't know what Spotify is.
 
I only remember the one song:
"Short Skirt/Long Jacket" is the first single by American alternative rock band Cake from their 2001 album Comfort Eagle. Music video The associated music vox pop video is composed entirely of people listening to the song on headphones and their reactions. Responses include enthusiasm, critique, and apathy; some dance, while one Ralph Walbridge, poet, gives the headphones back partway through, stating "uh..I've heard it all a million times, all the way back to all of the old records -which were much better- when they first came out, back in the 40s." Other comments include Bruce Thies...
 
@mootinator I thought I remembered that name
There, now the star list looks a little more like "this is our house. Get to know our rules or GTFO"
 
@Shog9 spotify is legal music streaming service. pretty much what should have been in place by the year 2000. It's fairly good and cost £4.99 per month for the unlimited version in the UK
 
@mootinator That's... not their best work
 
@Flexo And they knock off a fair bit of songs you would like to have in the states.
@Shog9 Do you know Rdio, Mog, Pandora?
 
3:22 PM
I thought they'd not even launched in the US
 
@Flexo Ah, I remember this now
 
@Shog9 The video is kinda funny.
 
I'm a big fan of "Never There" and "The Distance."
 
@jadarnel27 wait wait wait, all these are by Cake, the same band?
Oy, my mind is slipping.
I love all those songs
 
@PopularDemand Yeah. Jeff also claimed to have run an update on the database that took care of the existing ones, but either something went wrong there or they're allowed in some other way.
 
3:26 PM
@jcolebrand Haha, awesome =)
 
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Q: Auto-inserted "possible duplicate" comment does not trim whitespace from question title

AlainWhen I voted to close a question as an exact duplicate, the following comment was auto-inserted: possible duplicate of [ Sending Email in Android using JavaMail API without using the default Android app(Builtin Email application)](http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2020088/sending-email-in-andro...

and
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Q: Why not remove trailing spaces after a question title?

jokerdinoI note that if there is a space after the question title, it is not removed and left as such. There is at least one issue with leaving the space right there. It breaks the possible dupe comment markdown. Really. While I agree that one can simply fix this by editing the question title or the comm...

for your voting pleasure.
 
@jcolebrand I'm sure I hear those all the time as a result of my Sirius radio being stuck on the 90s alt station most of the time. O_o.
 
@jadarnel27 "The Distance" is a classic.
 
Thanks for the assist, @TimStone.
 
@Shog9 Indeed it is.
And now I must listen to Cake. Probably for the rest of the day.
 
3:39 PM
All because of @jco. Be sure and keep him posted!
 
@jadarnel27 listening to that album now, guilt free :)
 
@Shog9 let's not be so quick to lay blame here ...
 
@Flexo Nice!
 
More cake for @jco
 
Oh, -1 DIY for scheduling a Town Hall while I'm at the office. The idea that people who know nothing of my schedule can't magically plan around it is just...craziness!
 
4:00 PM
Those inconsiderate clods!
 
do anonymised posts count for question bans still?
 
Lix
AFAIK anonymised posts are associated with the community user... So I would guess that they don't count.... The post is no longer associated to the banned user...
 
I would tend to agree with that assessment.
 
that could be exploitable if someone was sneaky enough
(unlikely though if the questions that get asked on meta about bans are anything to go by)
 
Lix
Only way I know of disassociating a post from your user is by categorically requesting that from the SE team (or having your account burninated - same same)... I guess the person replying to the request have to recognize a ban being enforced and refuse the anonymation... ( i like inventing words :)
 
4:08 PM
@Lix I think refusing anonymisation of some sort might be legally awkward in some countries
 
Saying the word "anonymity" (out loud) repeatedly is difficult to do.
Hell. Saying it once is kind of troublesome.
 
Lix
I wonder if the team would allow you to disassociate yourseldf from a post you own... I mean... I think there would have to be a good reason and not just a "gimme teh anonimiteeze"
 
The trick is to stop talking in between repeating yourself, like normal people would.
@Lix they do. But you have to prove reasonable cause.
Like, they won't do it because you go "uh, so, I don't like that post"
 
Lix
my point exactly...
 
But if you've pretty well screwed yourself, and it's a good post, email the team (email addresses at the bottom of every page) and asking for it with the page URL.
 
Lix
4:13 PM
also if the person requesting this has a ban enforced, I'm sure it would raise some eyebrows...
 
@Lix Aye, but I'm speaking authoritatively and not guessing.
@Lix again, it depends on the nature of the dis-association
 
@jcolebrand Well that's no fun. The things I'm repeating are far more important than whatever it is that others are trying to interject.
They should wait their turn until I'm done awkwardly stumbling over the word "anonymity."
 
Posting an interesting tirade against your current employer on programmers for instance?
 
Lix
who needs books to expand your vocabulary... come to the tavern.... tirade - A long, angry speech of criticism or accusation...
 
@Lix would they even notice? I thought it was really hard to say for certain if someone was banned.
 
Lix
4:23 PM
@fle - yea.. I think I had the image of the suspension banner in my head.... Although I don't know if mods are able to see a ban, I would assume that there is some indication for a mod
 
@Lix They cannot. Only devs can.
 
Lix
@jad - makes sense...
I feel there was a mistake when closing this post -
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Q: Is there a way I can see the comments I've upvoted?

j08691 Possible Duplicate: Keep track of where I have upvoted/downvoted I know I can see my vote history on questions and answers, and I've seen other questions about retrieving data for votes on comments that I've left, but is there a way to get a list of other people's comments that I've up...

Any reopen votes around here?
 
I think it was an odd closing as well. It could just be made a feature request to add a "comments" filter to the votes tab.
 
Hmm, Cake started repeating. Maybe some Cowboy Mouth now.
 
@Lix We can see a ban. Hell, we can place a ban.
@mootinator Smash Mouth?
Smashing Pumpkins?
A little Melon Collie?
 
4:29 PM
@jcolebrand That also works. Something against CM? :P
 
@jcolebrand I think he's referring to the (automated) bans, not suspensions.
 
Lix
yes - automated bans is what I was referring to...
 
@jadarnel27 those are still noted.
We may not know precisely why a ban is in place, but we know that one is there
Plus, every user has a history page of sorts that mods can see
Just because we don't all talk about all the tools that nobody can see all the time, doesn't mean mods don't have research-ability in the system to some degree.
 
for some reason I thought I remembered a "show indication of question banned user" feature request from a mod on MSO but I can't find it.
 
Yeah, we can't see all the reasons for banning
but we still know that they're banned
4 mins ago, by jcolebrand
We may not know precisely why a ban is in place, but we know that one is there
 
4:43 PM
@jcolebrand Are you sure about that? This answer from Nick seems to disagree. And this mod feature request is declined.
> It's a runtime check, which adds page load time to the profile for those that can see it (not even moderators)
 
Aye
question-blocked is not a ban tho
They operate the same
you can't participate by asking new questions
but question blocked just means "can't ask new questions", you can still comment or answer.
banned means you can't interact with anyone else.
 
@jcolebrand That's a suspension. We're talking about the automated posting bans ("We are no longer accepting questions / answers from this account").
 
@jadarnel27 Then we can tell that they've been banned.
At least, I've been told we can tell that.
I haven't had any shitty question askers of that magnitude come to dba.se, so I can't confirm it. You're welcome to.
 
I'm just going by Nick's and Rebecca's answers to those two questions I linked. Basically, that they are not interested in exposing that info to people (mods or otherwise) for various reasons.
@jcolebrand I read that as you inviting me to ask come ask a bunch of terrible questions on dba.se =P
For science!
 
Q> What is this sequel thing I keep hearing about?
 
4:52 PM
Hahahah
 
Q> Can anyone recommend a good database engine?
Q> I accidentally 87 million rows. Is this dangerous?
 
I'm guessing those three would be enough to trip it =)
 
5:07 PM
Man that's a lot of comments (below the question, that is).
 
Lix
didn't they see the "move to chat" message? :P
 
Haha, I suppose not.
 
 
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6:11 PM
Ugh. Web Forms.
 
6:37 PM
You can write a web forms app in 5 minutes.
As long as you hate customization.
 
> As long as you hate customization yourself.
@mootinator You had a typo.
 
Things I've been viciously downvoted for: Criticizing MS Access, and criticizing web forms. 3 out of 3 Zealots can't be wrong.
 
Ugh. MS Access.
 
It's grrrrreat!
 
I cut my teeth on that one
 
6:52 PM
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A: When is MS Access better that a web app backed by RDBMS?

awrigleyFirst and foremost, Access IS a real RDBMS. What it is isn't is a client server RDBMS. The only implications of this are that there is a throttle on the number of simultaneous connections and the security of the data needs careful thought. Amongst other things, Access is also an IDE that uses ...

Grrrrreat!
 
@mootinator Wow. Just wow.
 
Heh. I was a little snarky in the comments there.
 
Haha, indeed.
I worked for a company that used Access databases for everything (including a small Access database that stored user settings and Form settings on each client machine).
Frequently, bug report calls I fielded were solved by just doing a "compact and repair" on that database.
 
Most of the projects I've worked on at my current job started out as poorly designed Access applications. One of them started as an obscenely complicated Excel spreadsheet.
 
People have a strange obsession with doing things in Excel that I don't fully understand.
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7:03 PM
The one greenfield project I did here was implemented in web forms, despite us winning a bid which was very specific about us not having any expertise in that.
 
the most annoying thing is when they look at you funny for answering "how do I do Y in Excel?" with "why would you do that in in Excel?"
 
Excel: The ultimate project management/accounting/reporting/intermediate data format/word processing tool.
 
@TimStone Well, Excel is ubiquitous. And managers have an idea of what it is. And everyone who has ever entered =SUM(F8:F29) starts to think "hey, this is both powerful and easy; I bet I could do any processing I need with it!" And it looks so inviting and professional with its neat rows and columns of cells. And the pretty graphs. Oh, people love graphs.
 
7:24 PM
@mootinator I got what amounted to a prototype of an application sent to me several months ago. It was, as you just described, "an obscenely complicated Excel spreadsheet."
I was dumbfounded.
 
Speaking of which, I need to submit my expenses for the month via an excel spreadsheet.
I should offer to add that to the company intranet.
Then I could attach receipts to each line item and not have them try to figure out which goes with what.
 
That sounds very industrious of you.
 
7:51 PM
I'm living la vida loca.
 
8:08 PM
I'm curious to see what the final score will be for Evan in this election.
 
@animuson remind me which URL?
 
I need 50 rep, stat.
 
Oh, an 11th candidate showed up?
 
@animuson I can't split the votes on ELU :(
oh wait I can
 
8:11 PM
@TimStone: Yea, Martha, last minute
 
Evan's already at -20 =P
 
Needs -21. For DEMOCRACY
and FREEDOM
 
and great justice
 
Downvote all the things!
 
> And I will strike down downvote upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. - Jules, Pulp Fiction (or the Bible or something)
 
8:15 PM
Someone upvoted him?
 
weird
 
This question gave me an idea in the shower: an image imitating Lucky Charms except all the marshmallows are red X's and the text reads "they're automagically deleted." I decided that's way too much work though. — animuson 2 mins ago
If anyone has free time, [image-request]. :)
 
Heh.
 
8:31 PM
Anybody want to edit the prefixed tags out of the titles of these 10,000 posts? =P
 
8:48 PM
tag: tag: tag: tag: tag:
 
@Flexo I'm not going to lie, I originally thought that domain was "ToryHunt.com"
 
@TimStone is that an Olympic event?
 
I'll let you know in six hours. #NBCFail
Oh seriously? The five edit limit is in place on per-site metas? |:
 
Five edit limit?
 
9:03 PM
> You have already edited 5 of your own posts today (not including very recent posts). Further edits are not allowed until tomorrow. Please contact a moderator if you require assistance.
I posted this digest like three days ago |:
Seems recent enough to me...
</too-localized complaint>
 
It clearly says very recent. Shame on you for trying to perform subversive, malicious actions against poor ol' Stack Exchange.
 
Well, I just assumed that they meant "very recent" in the same way that I'll get certain things done "very soon"
 
9:22 PM
Another problem that would be solved nicely and neatly if the team would just hire you already.
 
Heh :P
 
I really can't believe they found a more qualified candidate than you for this.
 
I'm rather curious what the job description of the position of me would entail.
 
They clearly forgot the 's assistant part on that.
 
10:22 PM
Hi guys!
 
@J.Walker Heya. Welcome to The Tavern.
 
Okay, im trying to get the sportsmanship badge and I want to know whats a competing answer?
 
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A: Voting for competing answers (Sportsmanship badge)

Jarrod DixonCurrently, the badge logic is: your answer has a positive score your answer isn't deleted your vote on a competing answer occurs after your answer Also, for the purposes of all vote-based badges, deleted votes (i.e. votes you undo) are never factored in. Edit After intense public outcry, we...

 
I've look for hours through all of the questions and I haven't found any with 100 answers. How do they expect you to get this badge?
 
Also, there's this post that explains the criteria for every badge, in detail.
@J.Walker You don't have to cast all 100 votes on answers to the same question. It's any 100 answers that compete with yours anywhere on the site.
 
10:30 PM
THX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!‌​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! times 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000‌​000000000000000000000 plus 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
 
That said, you don't really need to actively work towards Sportsmanship as long as you answer questions sometimes and upvote good answers when you see them.
 
I do.
Answer popular question, upvote everyone else regardless of answer quality... PROFIT!
 
ME TOO!
 

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