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12:04 AM

@EatmoreTwisters Well, I was able to request a page as if I was logged in. It was easier than I thought... but we should discuss the details behind your end-goal, because I don't think it's going to be very easy.

12:26 AM

Strongly Agree, Somewhat Agree, Somewhat Disagree, or Strongly Disagree?

</annoying-political-survey>

Hey, @Zypher was here recently...

12:50 AM

Anyone here?

I've been given a green light to scrape a website for data. What's a good way to do so? I need the texts from a page.

There's a number of pages.

There's a single page for each of several categories. Each page has all of the links necessary.

torah.org/learning/torahportion.php3

1:17 AM

My A51 rep is 1337

@jcolebrand - I just realized that your profile says that you "write cutting edge UI". We should talk.

2:07 AM

I've drank the NodeJS Kool-aid, so I'll pipe up: NodeJS could download those pages, create the dom model, and access/export whatever you want.

2:30 AM

Look what a $99 Touchpad can bring

2:49 AM

@YiJiang Wow.

Well, now that the hurricane is passed, my siblings keep shining those * flashlights in my eyes at every chance. Someone burninate those flashlights NOW!

3:25 AM

@Zypher serverfault.com/questions/308474/… is redirected to dba, not so

@Moshe I try, at the very least

@jcolebrand What do you mean by "cutting edge UI"?

Innovations in UX, button placement, look and feel?

I mean that my fingers often hurt afterwards ;)

:-)

@jcolebrand Well, I'm finding school to be more interesting than I expected. I guess it's about the attitude.

Yes, that it would be

I am a bit swamped by all of the assignments though. Thank Gd, I can write fairly well.

3:31 AM

I told you didn't I? That you needed it and that you would enjoy it

I also encourage you to completely take advantage of your professors

ask any question that is mildly related

Well, my CS professor said that she's only answering questions in class about what she's discussing and when she's discussing it, so that won't do me any good.

But the other ones, sure.

My math course has RSA cryptography on the syllabus, which is exciting.

3:48 AM

> Well, my CS professor said that she

@Fosco sounds like a good thing to me

I learned more from my female CS profs than from my males

Very cool. I only remember one... cobol.

lol, I had a woman for that too

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5:14 AM

I'd like to know - Can I delete my 0 score answers without undeleting them by moderator after he see I'm trying to vandal my own posts?

5:26 AM

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A: Stackoverflow: Possible Established User Typo?

Since a site for programmers is bound to be filled with pedants who are offended at the slightest little mistake, it would awesome if this was fixed.

Has everybody got their awesome yet?

Hai. I can haz awesome? Kthanxbye.

@genesisφ consecutive deleted posts will raise a flag

@genesis Yes, I'd avoid deleting more than a few each day. Just because a post is zero score doesn't mean it isn't useful to someone.

I don't ding users for vandalism who are obviously just cleaning out their old posts / questions, but the fewer system generated flags you receive, the better.

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6:07 AM

Argh!

DevDays is cancelled

Stack Overflow Blog: DevDays 2011 is Cancelled

Posted by Joel Spolsky on September 6th, 2011

DevDays has been canceled, due to poor attendance.

It’s my fault, actually. I took a perfectly good thing (DevDays ’09) and gold plated it until it was a different thing.

DevDays ’09 was one day. So even people who couldn’t get their boss to let them go to a conference could take a vacation day or something. Everyone told us “Great conference! Too short!” So version 2.0 had to be longer, we thought. Two days!

Oh, also, DevDays ’09 was $99. We pulled that off by being cheap. Really cheap. So even people who couldn’t get their boss to pay could afford to spring for the conference themselves. But t …

That's sad news. Explains why I didn't get an answer when asking for a ticket for the London venue after it was closed down as sold out.

Everyone in favour of holding an alternative conference at Marc's place, say aye!

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Rebecca Chernoff

7:01 AM

Does Marc have to be in favor of it, or is it a surprise? (;

7:12 AM

meh, pull up a chair.

I'll grab a few cases of beer and order some pizzas.

Rebecca Chernoff

will there be awesome sprinkles?

Arse. Stackoverflow Dev Days has been canned http://t.co/3Y9XBit Shame because I was just about to cover my talk with awesome-sprinkles

Tweeted by julianbrowne on September 7, 2011 at 6:51 AM

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@Marc cool! I'll bring some wine to complement things.

7:33 AM

k, let me just invent a fake address... (which should not be taken personally - I just had this horrible premonition of people actually turning up)

@MarcGravell 10 Downing Street seems as good a place as any other ;)

@YiJiang good luck getting into there ;)

also, is this new?

user image

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@MarcGravell shouldn't the right address simply be the only place in RFoD that has a T1 connection?

@EatmoreTwisters lol! I wish... RFoD is a bit of a backwater. My connection is not the fastest.

@tombull89 It's not. It's been on SE 2.0 sites since their start I think. Not sure when they've starting doing it on the Trilogy sites

7:36 AM

The Forest of Dean is a geographical, historical and cultural region in the western part of the county of Gloucestershire, England. The forest is a roughly triangular plateau bounded by the River Wye to the west and north, the River Severn to the south, and the City of Gloucester to the east. The area is characterised by over 110 square kilometres (42.5 sq mi) of mixed woodland, one of the surviving ancient woodlands in England. A large area was reserved for royal hunting before 1066, and remained as the second largest Crown forest in England, the largest being New Forest. Although the...

but it is pretty!

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@MarcGravell no doubt!

@MarcGravell Thanks for that, because for a moment there I thought it might be...

Rebecca Chernoff

They've been on the trilogy for months. How have you not noticed it until now?!

user image

hehe; thanks @YiJiang - I shall send for some suitable folkish dancing clothes

7:38 AM

@YiJiang @RebeccaChernoff I have no idea how I've missed it.

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I didn't notice it either.

@MarcGravell sure is, my first school trip was to the forest of dean. Back in 1996. Still remember it.

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But then, I think my brain is trained to ignore social share buttons, as it does with ads

@tombull89 You're not the only one - seen that request for an option to turn them off on Meta?

Rebecca Chernoff

lol, really? nobody is even going to question me? >_<

they were just added today. err, yesterday.

7:41 AM

@RebeccaChernoff I don't actually see social networking buttons because I had ADP block them

So, no, I would've never noticed them anyway

@RebeccaChernoff chuckle I thought it was my schools filtering blocking social networking sites. That'll teach me to trust a SE employee.

Also, NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION. /amidoingthisrite?

8:08 AM

@tombull89 k; you're making me feel old now

@MarcGravell chuckle, sorry. you're only...11...years older than me.

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9:23 AM

this chat is so innovative!

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11:44 AM

@sathya I know. That's why I ask if there's a way to delete big amount of posts without being punished/posts being undeleted

@TimPost will I receive some punishment because of that flag?

@genesis you shall be burninated :P

@M'vy like deleted?

No, like burninated

@M'vy sorry, this term is not known in Czech, is there another word for this?

translate.google.com/#auto|cs|burninated%20

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Q: No more burnination?

Question: When making these requests which lead to visits from Trogdor, am I to assume that these tags are blacklisted? Or are they just removed? In other words, would it make more sense to re-categorize these requests as: tag-removal-request which doesn't exist tag-blacklist-request which do...

discussion tags taxonomy

This is a stackexchange thing

Or better:

11:48 AM

I know it is, it's like cleanup. But, is there another english word for what would happen to me?

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A: The Many Memes of Meta

Meme: burninated Origin: Possibly Jeff Atwood / Strongbad: Trogdor the Burninator Cultural Height: 2010 - 2011 Background: Used in reference to deleting a tag from the system. See Also: The official burninated dragon, Trogdor the Video Game.

I was just joking

Ahh. Sorry

False flagging happens every day

you'll just loss 10 points in your flag weight

@M'vy I know it does. But when I see vandalism flag, I bookmark that answer. When I return, I see that post is undeleted

@M'vy it means about 50 flags for me :~/

50? all false?

11:50 AM

no. 50 flags acecpted to get 10 weight

Flag weight: 717.5956
Your flagging history
743 moderator attention flags
702 deemed helpful
22 declined
19 disputed†

Well... that's the game.

non-linear flag weight ...

I know. I'm doing Marshal (gold) badge now

Hard one :P

Deputy is quite easy on SO

deputy? sec Ill look

500 flag weight

you should have this one

11:52 AM

stackoverflow.com/questions/7329085/… this answer has only one link - I have flagged it, but within 5 minutes grace period

Yes it is

So it was declined :/

hm

however I know how to get free flag weight without work of moderator

hm

@genesisφ I didn't think that was possible...

@tombull it is. but I won't tell how

12:03 PM

Huh? Who in here was asking for punishment? Am I too late?

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I think off-topic can do this since it does only require 5 close votes

@Tim i was just asking if I get punished when there are too many system flags ?

@M'vy 10k on so?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7329788/static-methods-or-singleton-which-one-to-choose
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7329878/how-to-create-a-delete-button-when-user-swipe-a-cell-in-table-view
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7330239/how-to-implement-a-uibutton-that-consisting-of-left-side-image-right-side-text

these are great to get some flag weight

@genesis I'm far from 10k on SO... I don't answer the topic that rewards...

@genesis Nobody knows the exact formula that goes into restrictions the system (now, or eventually) sets based on events. No, I don't think you're in any kind of danger, or even close to it. But my 'official' stance is only delete content when there's a good reason for doing it, not just because of a zero score.

You have to be 3k at least

12:06 PM

1907

@Tim I've got 1,3k answers. 700 of them aren'T upvoted. I wanna better ratio

@M'vy so you can't use it :p

But I'm better on MSO, and other SE sites.

@M'vy it works on all sites :)

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@genesisφ why? Who cares?

@Eat about?

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12:06 PM

About the ratio, I mean.

ah

I don't know, I wanna be better and better, in everything :p

some of my posts are really good only to be trashed

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@genesisφ well, that's different. But I wouldn't delete contributions that are good or okay just to improve the ratio

The fact that a contribution hasn't received any upvotes doesn't automatically mean it's not good.

Okay

@genesis Let me take a look at your answers

@Tim please no :D

12:08 PM

I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To catch them is my real test
To train them is my cause

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But, of course, sometimes it does mean it's not good. I have lots of those as well that I've been meaning to weed out :)

/pokemons

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@tombull89 The Rhyme sounds like it's from Harry Potter, but the content doesn't :D

@Eat you've got 592 answers with 128k

I've got 1300 with 15k

It's stackoverflow

@EatmoreTwisters Pika? CHUUUUUUUU.

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12:10 PM

@tombull89 I see!

@genesis It's blatantly obvious that the quality of your contributions has really improved over the time you've been a member. I don't see anything wrong with pruning your own answers, but I strongly suggest doing it little by little, starting with the oldest ones over a protracted amount of time

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I second what @Tim says.

@Tim okay!

@Tim did you look at some? :p

164a / 1907r

Uh hu

12:11 PM

11.62 rep per answer

@m'vy ?

I am STRONGLY resisting the urge to make a funny comment. Please don't encourage me.

@M'vy who?

Me :P

on SO

@Tim you can

12:12 PM

Well, I mean .. all I can say is .. HOLY PEER PRESSURE, BATMAN!

Well, you'll get a badge. A shiny, shiny, badge.

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@genesis I guess what I'm really trying to say is, don't let some angry ranty dudes from the C++ chat room get to you too much. (If that's the reason for the pruning.) SO rep is really not that important

@Tim are my answers really so bad? =D

@Eat you just detected why was I thinking about it

No, not at all. Some of your first ones were just overly succinct. And you work in a highly competitive tag

@Eat it is for me :D You're building career on your answers, so I think it is for you, too

12:14 PM

Some of the answers I've written that I'm most proud of received the least amount of votes, by way of comparison

I was just noticing that today, actually while re-vamping my careers profile

@Tim yes, I was trying to improve them. However the truth is that the fastest/shortest answers were upvoted A LOT!

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A: which regular expression should i use?

$string = "blablabla (blablaba)"; explode(" ", $string); you do not need to regex it

@genesis This is particularly true in the PHP tag.

@TimPost agreed

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@genesisφ mmm, my participation over the last six months was partly motivated by that, but not too much. Maybe it'll contribute to me finding a job in the US one day... but I'm not holding my breath. It won't happen on that alone.

@Tim yes.. PHP is very competitive tag. It's question about seconds

12:16 PM

in The DMZ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Jul 29 at 8:14, by M'vy

Conclusion, popular topic rewards more than technical subjects

I work with PHP quite frequently and I actually stopped following that tag.

@Eat I know it won't. But you can use it as your ... portfolio... no no.. just, to show a lot of work done in a very short time

@Tim because it's too much active?

I pressed the 'random featured article' button and arrived on this article:

Wife selling (English custom)

The English custom of wife selling was a way of ending an unsatisfactory marriage by mutual agreement that began in the late 17th century, when divorce was a practical impossibility for all but the very wealthiest. After parading his wife with a halter around her neck, arm, or waist, a husband would publicly auction her to the highest bidder. Wife selling provides the backdrop for Thomas Hardy's novel The Mayor of Casterbridge, in which the central character sells his wife at the beginning of the story, an act that haunts him for the rest of his life, and ultimately destroys him. Altho...

user image

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@genesisφ yeah, I know what you mean. A good SO track record is a nice thing to have, no doubt.

12:17 PM

coughs

Good morning, everyone.

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Morning!

@genesis That, and I actually agree with a lot of things that Col. Shrapnel has to say. It gets frustrating to see really, really bad suggestions get up voted so quickly.

@YiJiang oh, english, you so craz-wait, I'm english...

@Tim damn. I thought I'm mentioning TimPost

@TimStone Nice to see you. Here are your messages ...

12:18 PM

@TimStone Hi Tim! :P

@TimPost Col.Shrapnel is competing with me a lot

He's a very defensive programmer.

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I have a bet running in the PHP room that he'll be banned again within 2-3 months, but it looks like things might work out this time.

:D

@TimPost but this one is very big fault from him.

stackoverflow.com/questions/7328881/php-strpos-crashing-script/…

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@Tim on the principle that offense is the best defense? :)

12:19 PM

According to his profile,

When answer, I am trying to distinguish three matters:

What the OP asked
What the OP wanted
What the OP needed really

@EatmoreTwisters He's mellowed out quite a bit

@TimPost Yeah, I've always found his case unfortunate. His points are usually relatively valid, he's just had a history of presenting them with such uhh...jackassery.

@genesis Funny that you mention an answer that I converted to a comment an hour ago

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@Tim yeah, but there have been phases of mellowing before. I still think I have a huge chance of winning that bet. I would rather like to see him stay on board, though - he's an incredible asset to the tag, no doubt, I've said that from day one

@TimPost this one was just very poor. I have flagged in first 5 minutes and my flag was declined :/ So fact that nobody see history in first 5 minutes, is true

0

A: Adding dots(.) after certain characters from mysql response

you can change your sql from select * ... to select col_a + '.', col_b, col_c ... . NB: + operator is mysql-specific; other database servers use || or you can use CONCAT() to ensure portability.

@TimPost yeah, I just noticed you have deleted it

12:22 PM

Looks like Col. Shrapnel is the SO equivalent of SF's TomTom.

@TimPost just a question, if you can, please answer. What is | tl in question? Is it some special mod action?

Huh?

second

Not helping

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I think he means "just a second"

12:24 PM

Ah

Yeah. I'll look on some screens in blog

timeline ? like in rchern SEModifications ?

user image

after "flag" there is tl

but it shows to moderators only (?)

@M'vy ah, probably.

Does @anybody know how did Jeff that animation?

I wish I knew

It seem that it isn't possible to be browser modification superuser.com/questions/331072/…

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Q: Looking for Chrome extension which can make gifs (animated) from browser

I want a good extension/user script which would be able to capture screen (selected area) and then join these captured images into animated gif. Is there one?

google-chrome browser-addons google-chrome-extensions

Okay, testing one

12:31 PM

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Q: SE Modifications -- Username autocomplete in comments, inline revision source, and utility links

Screenshot About This userscript adds four main features: Various utility links on posts and in the top bar Inline viewing of post revision source Markdown on the post history page Links on comment timestamps for linking to specific comments (with enhanced "link-ability" for people wit...

script comments

@genesis Is that what you were looking for?

@genesis example of one of my timeline link : french.stackexchange.com/posts/1010/timeline

@TimPost I got this one. I have seen | tl, but it was just modificated

@genesis I think devs see additional links, so I would not be surprised if they shortened the ones provided by that userscript

BTW I was looking around FrenchSE. I didn't get it. Some posts are in english and some in French. How should it be?

Both

You can ask in french or in english

but it should concern french :P

Since it has been build around 3 propositions, we choose to keep both languages

Because one proposition was french only, the other had english too.

12:35 PM

@M'vy thanks for explain

@Tim & what are all mod actions, Lock, unlock, protect, unprotect, ... ? I can't think about more

no pb

pb?

Well, basically that .. and the peanut butter button

problem

ah

12:36 PM

migration is limited to mods (when there is no mig list)

all the castable votes are available to mods directly

@M'vy I think it's just Close -> Offtopic -> migration site -> vote

(their vote count as decisive)

@M'vy even 10k see close votes

Can transform ans->comm and so

@genesis I mean if a mods cast a close vote, it's done.

I'd like to see how can mod select target post to post comment to :p

12:38 PM

No need for 5 votes

@M'vy yes I know

Well that's what I meant :P

BTW, is there a need of prevention when question is closed? I doubt about it

prevention?

protection*

12:39 PM

Well I guess you cannot add any more answer

YOu guess correct

Still available: comments and vote? but not sure.

ahhh!

comments are disabled when locked

Edit shall be available too, so that you can get it reopened

vote is locked when it'S <10 user in any case ;)

edit is possible for <10 even if it's protected, I think

locked = no answers, no comments, no votes

BTW @TimPost are "invalid flag" and "he's vandal" flags always marked as disputed?

Heh. answer get deleted and I still can flag it? strange

stackoverflow.com/questions/219668/sharepoint-and-log4net/…

12:42 PM

I don't think so .. if you just flag the same post that Community did as "other" it shouldn't dispute Community. Someone probably just disputed one or both flags.

None of my "invalid" flags were accepted

?

invalid means : not accepted

I don't get it?

Does anyone else see the minus sign above the vote count on this post?

sorry, but if you didn't know, there isn't "invalid" flag anymore in meaning as declined

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Q: Post-related comments obtained by query are not displaying properly

I know about SQL Injection so please don't say anything about it I just want to get the site working first and worry about all of that when I finish I'm trying to display comments for posts but the code I have in place displays comments for ALL posts. How would I display the comments for the pos...

php mysql sql injection

12:45 PM

By "invalid" flag I mean that "I am flagging this flag because this flag is invalid"

oh

Anyone else see something strange with the voting buttons / count on that?

@TimPost no, classic

link|edit|close|flag|protect|timeline|history

& -16 vote count ;)

+3/-19 ?

sorry7

+3-19

12:47 PM

You don't see the minus sign ABOVE the vote count initially?

no

nah

This is proof that Chrome is made by elves.

user image

(even on Opera :P)

12:48 PM

I'm using chrome

Maybe it's the overlay

Nope, just my version of chrome on this pc. Sorry for the noise :)

@TimPost so about flags to flags, are they everytime marked as disputed?

@genesis No. It just depends on who views them and what they think

ok. are post marked as helpful automatically when post is deleted?

We appreciate the hard work that everyone puts into keeping the site clean .. but really, giving more thought to flags beyond that which is required to flag as accurately as possible is a waste of time.

@genesis Yes, if we take any action on a flagged post, the flags are validated

12:55 PM

@TimPost You mean all of this spy equipment that I bought to monitor moderator vital signs to determine in advance how they'll respond to each and every flag was a waste of time and money? :O

@TimStone That explains the ticking package I received in the mail today? I'm sure that had SOMETHING to do with someone's flag weight being lowered.

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Heheh. ;)

XD

:d

@Eat I think he have meant recognizer/Detector of characters

0

Q: jQuery Plugin that does this?

Is there a jQuery plugin that allows this?

jquery image plugins annotate

@TimPost should I propose to fix that workaround for free flag weight?

Hah, good time to protect this question

0

A: How do I download a file from S3 to an iPhone application?

"_OBJC_CLASS_$_ASIS3ObjectRequest", referenced from: objc-class-ref-to-ASIS3ObjectRequest in objectDownloadController.o Any idea to solve it

1:11 PM

We're testing a new revision diff engine (meta only at the moment). If anyone feels like checking diffs, go nuts :)

your own?

what do you mean?

Is it your own or are you using some open-source solution like before?

gets out his gold star board

the actual diffing algorithm is the same as before; we just made it more flexible and then dropped in better parser

1:15 PM

Alright balpha, who do I award points to for getting diffs on images?

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meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/20658/revisions

Looks like it considers the space between tags as part of the tag diff (Jeff's edit)?

@balpha so I won't see any difference?

@TimStone me

I might have to extend your column farther, it's getting rather full. ;)

@TimStone ah yeah, I didn't test the tags -- good catch

@balpha woah.

1:19 PM

Hmm, is there any way to resolve this case?

The "Please advise" is really anchored to the last paragraph, but it's hard to tell in the diff since the newline was removed along with the signature and misspelling.

I could see that potentially being impossible to determine correctly though.

not sure what you mean

Well, in the revision it looks like Please advise was added on its own line, but that's not the case. It was actually the replacement for "PLease advice", and the "\nRegards, Sri" was just removed.

as far as the diffing algo is concerned, "PLease advice \nRegards, Sri" was removed, and "Please advice." (note the lowercase L and the period) where added

Right, that's fair. I can't tell that the newline was removed, though.

Not that it really matters though, I suppose. It's clearly not there in the actual post, so.

note that if only a new line was removed, there'd be some indication (not pretty, but at least you can pin down where something happened)

1:28 PM

Ah ha

Anonymous

Does anyone know if they still post transcript wikis for the podcasts, or if they've stopped doing that? I've been unable to find any recent ones.

@JeremyBanks I think it's just a summary now, as you see on the blog

Anonymous

It looks like there haven't been any since they reluanched as "The Stack Exchange Podcast".

Anonymous

Okay.

The cookie to view the non-mobile version of SE sites on mobile devices expires too quickly, and does not carry over to other sites in the network (I know, I know, cross-domain blah blah blah, but still...)

1:32 PM

0

Q: Will the heat from the external hard disk cause any problems if I have the hard disk wrapped in the plasic?

I don't like to bother myself with cleaning my stuff (i'm really lazy) but I don't like my stuff to be dirty as well. So basically I don't remove the plastic of my external hard disk even when its plugged into the laptop (and rather hot I think, relatively). I'm wondering will the heat cause ...

hard-drive external-hard-drive

@JeremyBanks you beat me to your response :p

I am so tempted to photoshop a fire extinguisher into that picture.

@balpha is current algo opensource?

I think I have seen it before but it's gone now

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Q: Stack Overflow has too many low quality new questions

SO started off as a site for interesting programming questions. Although the odd "help me please" localised debugging help question would pop up once in a while, this was inevitable so we just sort of lived with it, right? Now it feels as if the vast majority of questions are those which we mig...

codeproject.com/KB/string/htmltextcompare.aspx

this with the low quality filter ON. Imagine if that wasn't around... shudder

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1:41 PM

xmailserver.org/diff2.pdf

@balpha question, do you store 2 versions of post, 1 for editing & second for viewing?

for the current revision yes. for older revisions no.

Ah. And which one is submitted? I have seen that current editor does transfer current one to html before submitting when tried on my own machine

uhm... what?

@balpha I'm reprogramming my command key to print just that.

1:45 PM

hmm

OSQA uses same editor as you on SO do. And it does parse text just before submittion into html

The clientside Markdown parsing is just for display. The server just gets the original Markdown source and converts it to HTML itself.

@TimStone tags are fixed

aha. okay

Awesome :)

I haven't run across anything else funky yet, so looks really good.

Cool. It definitely fixes all diffing bug reports I've found on meta

Oh, even the ones where the revision history goes horribly, horribly wrong with respect to code blocks et al? :o

1:54 PM

Oh great .. another Skype upgrade. Cringes

@TimStone yes

\o/

Tell everyone else to stop working for the day, I'm awarding you the remainder of my gold stars. :P

@TimPost damn Microsoft

@genesis I've been using the ancient statically linked Linux version mostly, because it's more usable.

@TimPost it's without animated emoticons :(

1:57 PM

My point, exactly.

I'm suprised Microsoft didn't cut off support for Linux version of Skype

It's also devoid of annoying modals, Facebook and everything else that turns my cursor into an hourglass when all I want to do is run two applications at once :)

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