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jcolebrand

4:02 PM

Science has proven common sense was right ... again. shine.yahoo.com/channel/health/…

Shog9

Wait, where's the bit where science proves diet cola tastes like sick?

jcolebrand

idk .. but I don't personally care for aspartame

this is my poison of choice:

Fosco

I switched to water, almost always. I still have a soda or iced tea if I eat out somewhere, but at home I don't stock any soda or sugared drinks.

jcolebrand

I'm breaking the habit, drinking more water

but it's hard to change an ingrained 20+ year habit

Tim Stone

> A 2008 study found that women who drank water sweetened with sugar and water sweetened with Splenda couldn't taste a difference

Who would agree to participate in that study?

I mean sure, you can sweeten water, but it just seems unpleasant.

Shog9

4:14 PM

@TimStone That's pretty much the premise of every softdrink ever though.

Tim Stone

The difference being that they have additional flavouring.

jcolebrand

You haven't tried many soft drinks have you?

Sometimes they subtract flavoring ... >.>

mootinator

@jcolebrand ?

jcolebrand

Trying to remember the names, I've blocked them out ...

I remember green and yellow labels

Also, Mexican Candy ...

itworld.com/security/178991/internet-evolves-there-place-spam <-- can this be true?

> But lately a ray of light has cut through all the gloom. Spam -- the Internet's original sin -- dropped for the first time ever at the end of 2010. In September, Cisco System's IronPort group was tracking 300 billion spam messages per day. By April, the volume had shrunk to 34 billion per day, a remarkable decline. "The largest spam-sending botnets are being shut down and a lot of the big pharmaceutical spam has disappeared," said Nilesh Bhandari, a product manager with Cisco.

@mootinator I like Fresca except for that aspartame taste

mootinator

@jcolebrand ahh

Sierra Mist, Mr. Pibb.

Unsweetened iced tea.

jcolebrand

4:26 PM

@mootinator what sort of fiend are you ?

paulstack.co.uk/blog/post/Mocks-Stubs-a-thing-of-the-past.aspx <-- good article

mootinator

Those are the three things which make me notice I'm not in Canada.

Oh, and unnaturally dyed Pringles. That one was amusing.

"Hey, these cheese Pringles are bright Orange. I guess Americans would have trouble telling they taste like cheese otherwise."

</troll>

Says the person from the country with regulatons as to what color of drink is allowed to have caffeine in it.

Shog9

@mootinator Speaking of sugar water... Ice tea is a good example of a soft drink that shouldn't be sweet.

mootinator

@Shog9 Few places serve unsweetened iced tea here. And if they do, they question your sanity.

Fosco

I like my tea to be sweetened.

Shog9

@mootinator Sounds like The South. Where having your sanity questioned can be a much-needed affirmation of your sanity.

mootinator

4:34 PM

Me: "I'll have the mango iced tea." Chili's Server: "Are you sure? It's unsweetened." Me: "Er, aren't mangos kind of sweet?" Chili's Server: "Yeah, but it's not normal iced tea sweet."

All this talk about sugar makes me want a double down with poutine for lunch.

Manjot

back again :-)

mootinator

I managed to spend $70 on dinner last night because my wife wanted onion rings.

jcolebrand

@mootinator $70 for me and mine is about average. $100 is not unheard of

mootinator

We didn't get a main course.

jcolebrand

That's ...

Manjot

4:41 PM

I got oops image "internal server error" in stackoverflow chat room?

jcolebrand

I did not @Manjot

mootinator

We went to the local restaurant, which was closed, because the owner had a high school graduation. So then went to the other local place, which apparently no longer serves food. So we got a dessert and a drink.

After doing that we remembered seeing a 50's diner a 5 minute drive from our town once, and assumed they could supply us with onion rings.

Turns out the 50's diner just looks like a 50's diner.

It's actually a higher end 'authentic Greek/Mediterranean' restaurant.

So, we never got our onion rings.

Sathya

@mootinator $70 for onion rings!?

Shog9

You could've bought a fryer, oil, and an onion for that, and cooked it up in less time... (not that you knew that in advance, but worth dwelling on)

jcolebrand

@Sathya no, $70 for not getting onion rings but going to two different rest's

Sathya

4:45 PM

or, not.

jcolebrand

@Shog9 "worth pointing out to the wife"

Sathya

@jcolebrand ah

mootinator

=)

And of course the Greek 50's diner was packed with people celebrating graduations, as such excessively hot, and slow.

dwell dwell

Though apparently this place is the highest rated restaurant on urbanspoon for the city it's more than a 40 minute drive away from. Who knew.

Manjot

in android update i got but now it works fine may because ios

Yi Jiang

chinasmack.com/2011/pictures/…

jcolebrand

4:50 PM

stackoverflow.com/questions/6537889/… <-- VtC: NARQ. The asker refuses to give the details that would make this question answerable. Thrice he has refused.

Yi Jiang

Scroll below to see what an army of Chinese Photoshopers can do

Manjot

I"m not able to open non-mobile of tavern chat room in ios

jcolebrand

@YiJiang some of those are pretty good

mootinator

The government should hire some of those people.

Trufa

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Q: Python - Changing Shell Text Color (Windows)

I'm looking for a way to change the color of the text output from my python scripts as it runs. The basic idea is something like this: if (Data < LowerLimit): print "Failed" # Output Failed as Red Text elif (Data > UpperLimit): print "Failed" # Red Color else: print "Passed" #...

jcolebrand

5:16 PM

Some users don't understand how this system works do they?

Even when they get up to 1k points

mootinator

All you really need to know is that 1k points gives you nearly 1000 downvotes.

jcolebrand

on answers!

> Oracle .NET Team Now on Twitter

Oracle has a .NET team?

Fosco

Oracle has a Team?

mootinator

Am I actually off topic here in other people's opinions?

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A: Is there economic data to suggest whether or not trickle-down economics provides a net increase in standards of living?

The Fraser institute publishes an interesting report on Economic Freedom of The World. They rate countries on an index of freedom in five areas: Size of Government: Expenditures, Taxes, and Enterprises; Legal Structure and Security of Property Rights; Access to Sound Money; Freedom to Trade In...

jcolebrand

can anything be OT on skeptics?

Anna Lear

5:23 PM

@jcolebrand Oddly, yes.

jcolebrand

sarcasm fail apparently ;)

Anna Lear

@mootinator I dunno that I'd say off-topic, but I can't tell by reading your answer if it actually answers the question or just supports another answer.

jcolebrand

I personally feel that that positively contributes to the discussion being held, yes

does it stand alone as an answer? Not really.

Is it too long for a comment, yes

mootinator

Fair enough.

Anna Lear

But is it too long to be two comments? :)

jcolebrand

5:26 PM

would it be as well structured if it were two comments?

mootinator

I don't think it deserves to be showered with reps, either I just thought it was a little harsh to counter the single upvote :)

Anna Lear

I'd make it CW.

jcolebrand

I also think that DJ has a stick up his bum

mootinator

@AnnaLear Good enough for me.

Fosco

@jcolebrand StickOverflow... fitting for some users.

jcolebrand

5:30 PM

lmao

Fosco

@jcolebrand StickExchange.. he had one, now you do :)

Anna Lear

o.O

jcolebrand

lmao

Fosco

Hi Anna, haven't seen you here before.

jcolebrand

I've got another user with a random stick problem

mootinator

5:31 PM

@jcolebrand Sounds painful.

jcolebrand

well it's causing me to headdesk

mootinator

wonders if codegolf is still heavily polarized between people who just want to mess around and code golf Nazis.

Anna Lear

@Fosco Hi. I usually hang on SE chat, but clicked chat from MSO today and figured I'd stick around a bit. :)

mootinator

Addendum: I'm all for code golf Nazis if there are enough of them to sustain a community.

Fosco

I don't see how the community could survive.. how many things can you code golf?..

mootinator

5:45 PM

What do you call a chimney on a chicken coop?

... stackoverfowl

hides

jcolebrand

5:58 PM

Who wants to put the coup-de-gras finality vote on this one? stackoverflow.com/questions/6537889/…

Fosco

I win. :)

Rebecca Chernoff

oh noes, @AnnaLear has found us? ABORT MISSION, ABORT!!

Fosco

I'm 48 hours in with no smokes... going well.

jcolebrand

@Fosco good job!

@Fosco merci.

Fosco

Thanks.. It's weird being at work and not going outside for a break almost hourly, lol.

Popular Demand

6:02 PM

@jcolebrand That's a shame, I think there was a good question buried in there, but I just could not understand what the OP was trying to communicate.

jcolebrand

@PopularDemand I know.

I was trying to get him to open up and peel back the layers, but I'm not that good at communicating yet

Popular Demand

@mootinator By the way, chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/89?m=628665#628665

jcolebrand

I wanted to lay out several paragraphs of stuff, but I'm not that interested because he's going to shove it away and sulk

mootinator

@PopularDemand Ha. Codegolf: ^)

On a related note I'm sad thepenismightier.com is squatted rather than owned by someone funny.

(Because I assume that would have been expertsexchange's idea of a good writer's site)

Fosco

hehe... i swapped it around and use menispightier for random things like rock band (the game) names and my guitar tricks account...

mootinator

6:06 PM

hehe :)

Fosco

@mootinator awesome idea, surprised it isn't..

Anna Lear

@RebeccaChernoff IT IS TOO LATE

Rebecca Chernoff

rut roh!

Popular Demand

Dec 5 '10 at 0:29, by Popular Demand

Where's @Michael Mrozek? Oh well, guess it falls to me: Mod fight! Mod fight!

Yi Jiang

6:23 PM

@RebeccaChernoff urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rut%20Roh I'm not... I don't even... understand meaning?

Rebecca Chernoff

scooby doo!

> He also usually says, at least once per episode, "Ruh-roh, Raggy" ("Uh-oh, Shaggy")

balpha

make-everything-ok.com

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Trufa

Fosco

@balpha I approve of this magic button.

Shog9

@balpha I clicked the button and waited patiently, but the facebook icon didn't go away.

Trufa

6:38 PM

The above picture is after 3 weeks

Popular Demand

It's even better with NoScript enabled; you don't even have to press the button manually.

Trufa

with a blog of NO activity

Hogan

I'm so glad everything is ok now.

mootinator

7:00 PM

Everything is wonderful now.

Popular Demand

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Q: What's the deal with color-coding of comment votes?

This question was inspired by, and is kind of a corollary to, Could the star on favorited questions change in color? "Important numbers" are usually displayed prominently on Stack Exchange sites. They include question scores (number of upvotes minus number of downvotes), answer scores, the numbe...

discussion user-interface color

Fosco

+1 to you sir.... I think they're redundant, superfluous, and unnecessary. :p

Shog9

wut?

mootinator

7:27 PM

Must resist adding urgent!!! tag

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Q: IE7 link issues?

My internet was just shut off... so I'm at the library trying to fix one last feature of my test page (and eventually my site) before the portfolio review date on the 1st (TOMORROW!!!). Here's the problem, all this time I've been testing compatibility of my site with IE9/FF4/Chrome12/Safari (lat...

internet-explorer-7 links issues

tombull89

@Moshe it wasnt too bad, actually. Just as well it was to a portable hard disk though, if it was to USB Flash Stick I would have not even tried.

mootinator

Oh god, that page is hideous.

tombull89

@mootinator nah, it can't be that ba...OH JEEZE. Orange on Blue? really? really?

Fosco

indeed... art major my a**!

tombull89

That's one ugly computer he's got there. And standards compliant it may be but...eesh.

The links! They go nowhere!

...

just as well really.

Fosco

7:31 PM

The portfolio link doesn't need to work, I've seen enough. :p

Popular Demand

8:46 PM

in Regulator Headquarters, 30 secs ago, by Popular Demand

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Q: Which is the best ajax framework for java web development ?

I am using struts2 for my java web application . Now I want to use ajax for my client side user interface can anyone suggest me which is the best one to learn and implement ajax framework . I have seen jmaki , dojo , jQuery and heard about vroom for netbeans IDE thanks in advance .