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1:14 AM
The cake is a lie.
Portal is too short.
 
All video games are too short. That's why people prefer RPGs like WoW
 
On the other hand, I don't think I would have liked any more pistons.
NeedMoarBosses though. That was cool.
Excellent writer on that game.
Hey, why am I not surprised that Jonathan Coulton was involved?
 
Paste this into the address bar of the current tab on your browser :)
You will not be disappointed :)
 
1:31 AM
Ants eh?
 
@drachenstern Isn't it cool?
I found that on the jQuery plugins page. I quickly wrapped it into an SE Chat bookmarklet.
 
@RebeccaChernoff You like them?
 
Uh, did that seem like I did? Heh.
 
@GeorgeEdison when she puts ... |: that means no
 
1:41 AM
lol
 
Now if all she says is Oy then you have some room to wonder :p
 
Well... these smileys can be difficult to understand sometimes.
I already have to hold them up to a mirror :)
 
 
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2:53 AM
Please assume the party position and a party representative will come to collect you shortly.
Enjoy your victory candesance.
</overtired-rant>
 
huh?
Also, I just figured out how I can do my authentication in a way that I'm familiar with :D
So ... :D I'm ready (I think) to start writing code
I know how (I think) I'm going to do my routing
I know how I'm going to do my templates ...
 
3:37 AM
@drachenstern those were all portal references.
Good luck!
 
I figured they were
 
Oddly, I had some chocolate cake after playing portal. It was eerie. Good night.
 
good evening
 
 
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5:38 AM
@drachenstern hey
or not
:)
 
 
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7:25 AM
~
 
 
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9:48 AM
@Nyuszika7H: I have a doubt, one guy posting a answer and another asking him to come chat room, can i flag that answer
 
user153011
@SankarGanesh Hi, link?
 
@Nyuszika7H: see the third answer in this Question, can i flag that answer stackoverflow.com/questions/6014781/…
@Nyuszika7H: can i flag this
 
user153011
@SankarGanesh Hm, I think flag the comment, not the answer...
 
user153011
Out of curiousity, I tried to flag it, and got this: "This comment no longer exists"
 
user153011
Yeah, it seems it was deleted, either by the user or a mod...
 
user153011
9:51 AM
Why would you flag the answer?
 
Sorry i was shocked when i m seeing these type of actions, so that only i want to bring to mod foucs by flagging like this "Did not posting the comments here , instead they are using chat rooms , so that users not able to know what conversation is done for the right answer"
 
10:14 AM
hi
anybody here
 
@Damodar yes, we are here only
 
 
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12:53 PM
@balpha So were chatting in the android room and the moderator thought it was a good idea to give the chatroom moderator ability to turn off mentions
because its being abused
lemme post a screen shot of whats happening now
This is them abusing me btw
@OctavianDamiean has gone through worse
 
yeah, I see it, I'm over there now
 
chat.SE got its first spambots?
...or users who fail at the Turing test.
 
chat.SO has lots of users who fail the Turing test
that's not really new
 
> This... statement... is... false! dontthinkaboutitdontthinkaboutitdontthinkaboutit
@balpha thus we can say Stack Overflow is overrun by Sky.net
 
yeah ... anyway. Damien's idea is cool
He got tired of banning them I guess
 
12:59 PM
I'm kinda confused, I think you're confusing moderators (in blue) and owners (in italic)
 
now that he is gone they are picking on me, It's in hindi and its gross
 
@Reno For now add them to your ignore list. That'll stop the mention beeps AFAIK.
(Did you know? Chat moderators can see how many people ignore a certain user, in big bold red font.)
 
@badpssockpuppet: This is what i had told yesterday, today Reno, all doing the same
 
Yeah I've ignored 'em
 
People misusing the chat rooms, so that only i suggested pls merge the rooms and protect the SO from the people who are all misusing pls
 
1:02 PM
Again, there's no "merge" button
Still I think Jeff's kinda relieved to see the bottom 1% users abusing chat, rather than the site. hides
 
@badpssockpuppet: you know onething, many people posting poor questions, we must have a threshold to stop posting poor question, ForInstance, if a person posted 8 poor questions, then why cannot block him posting questions to maintain the Quality of SO, many people just simply post Question without trying anything
 
@balpha: and @B@badpssockpuppet Also Many people creating Duplicate rooms , see today we have many room for Android and Iphone , it 's very bad and pathetic condtiton of SO, i was disappointed, pls stop the people creating the Duplicate rooms
and pls take serious action on this, i humbly requesting you from yesterday, but you guys replied creating rooms are their freedom, but today reno brings the problem here
pls consider my humble request to protect SO and manitain the Quality of SO, Thanks
 
@SankarGanesh duplicate chat rooms is not the root cause.
The real problem is just plain stupidity
Can't say we have a cure for that
 
@Reno I know, pls see today we have plenty of rooms for Iphone and Android, what they thnik if you blocked in the Offical room , then they create duplicate room and go there
 
1:08 PM
Thing is, there's no such thing as a "official" room
 
@Reno: this is the Problem , My Dear friend Reno
 
They were really pissing off Damien. And then me.
 
and, if the "official" room goes rotten, the only way to fix that is to start anew with a new one.
Then again I don't lurk on chat.SO
I'd have to ignore too many people :P
 
We were talking about the mobile rooms a few months ago
 
Yeah that Is why I lurk on here
 
1:09 PM
@badpssockpuppet we must create it, this what i m suggesting create a room for a Langauage and conduct an election for a room and make them as owner, to manitain our Qualtiy, pls process my humble request
 
@SankarGanesh That's too formal, we don't need an Area51 for chat
 
yeah same problem @YiJiang It just got worse
 
Perhaps chat.SO could do with a slightly increased reputation requirement?
 
@YiJiang See Many rooms Such as Android in the Names of Mobile Application Developement and Android Independent language and So on
 
20 isn't low at all, though.
 
1:10 PM
@badpssockpuppet Well , chat reputation , must be a Higher, like +200 points , or something even more that
 
The first reputation points are the hardest earned ones.
 
The noise to signal level on those rooms are too high in my opinion, and not just because of the number of people or the breadth of the topics talked about
 
We have to fix this Issue first, :)
Brb
 
@YiJiang I think the real problem is with per-topic rooms
 
yeah C++ is an excellent room
 
1:12 PM
Wouldn't a topicless room where the chances of finding somebody to answer your question are much lower be somehow better? I don't know.
 
Android attracts the worst crowd
 
Chat isn't supposed to be for Q&A, but rather to chill out and see the people behind the answerers.
 
I personally think its the language, because the authors sometimes use English so badly its incomprehensible, but then again maybe I'm too much of a language snob?
 
It's just that owners have no way to apply negative permessions.
 
yeah chat isn't designed for Q&A. SO is.
 
1:14 PM
Perhaps a way would be it to place "question" as an acceptable flag reason, which'd trigger a 30 minutes suspension... but that's a ugly can of worms.
Some "questions" only belong on chat.
like "Man, I really need to find a better crypto lib than OpenSSL"
 
@badpssockpuppet Ugh, no. For very simple questions its simpler to just answer them, and chat should be open to subjective questions where opinions matter
 
subjective, argumentative, time specific, whatever, it's chat, so it's fine there in my view.
 
You're going to define too narrow a use case for chat if that's going to happen
 
@YiJiang I'm rather trying to define what use case doesn't belong
and that's regular Q&A
 
I agree with @YiJiang, also my humble request if a room created for Iphone and then room should not be created for IPhone, am i right
 
1:16 PM
rather than, what do I know, circumventing a question ban
 
And even if a question is being discussed that really should be asked on the main site, it should be the users of the room to point that out, instead of a automatic ban
 
@balpha have you guys seen increased chat activity from people that are banned from asking questions?
 
@badpssockpuppet Well that's an entirely different case, isn't it?
 
1:18 PM
@YiJiang I'm not sure that can work right now, there are too many people on the "other front"
 
@badpssockpuppet We haven't cross-referenced that
 
@SankarGanesh Why are your spamming this room with rooms? Room overflow!
 
1:18 PM
@SankarGanesh I think we get the point that there's too many rooms
 
@balpha: and @YiJiang: See Here, how much rooms for these languages, i was disappointed to see this
 
Those activity diagrams look suspiciously similar
 
I lol'd
 
@balpha: and @YiJiang: I want to show these rooms , Sorry for my action and Forgive me Guys
 
@SankarGanesh, if people aren't searching for existing rooms, maybe they aren't the people you want in your room. >_< I'm not sure it is worth your obsession. Plus, a bunch of people in these rooms are in several of the rooms you just spammed - so kind of creating the problem themselves.
 
1:20 PM
@badpssockpuppet I think it would be the same way as how SO was create; get experts with real knowledge, encourage people to act professionally. Neither of those happen in those rooms right now
 
let's see, peaks at around CEST 12, 11, 9... 8? 7am even? I blame anything east of Romania :P
 
@RebeccaChernoff I have an urge to go join all of those rooms now, personally.
 
anyway I'm not going to chat.SO
just a lot of brain farts there
 
@TimStone well said
 
The JavaScript room is still okay I suppose, but I can't vouch for the hours when I'm not in the room
 
1:21 PM
raises brow
 
@YiJiang Shush you, you're also east of Romania, and hence part of the problem.
 
@badpssockpuppet Well, the Earth is round, so you are also east of Romania
 
@RebeccaChernoff not like that, but my i want to remove fake rooms
 
@YiJiang That sounds very Rebeccay.
 
1:23 PM
@badpssockpuppet Oy?
 
@YiJiang Quite
 
They aren't your rooms. And just because there's one that you're not a part of doesn't make it fake.
 
btw @balpha they did swear at you in their mother-tongue. but yeah screw them and stuff
 
@RebeccaChernoff what to convey me finally , are you happy by seeing these things????, I thing your words hurting me and disappointing me, Anyway i want to maintain the Quality of SO, but you are not supporting this, disappointed again
 
Don't get me wrong, I hate 99% of chat flags, and I'll grief the day I'll lose one-click-dismissal powers on chat.SE; however right now it sounds like one of the few right tools for the job
 
1:25 PM
@Reno Yeah, I kinda figure that it wasn't a declaration of love :)
 
Especially since chat.SO is its own chat site, so I don't have to see those flags :P
 
> If people aren't searching for existing rooms, maybe they aren't the people you want in your room. >_< I'm not sure it is worth your obsession.
pretty much sums up my feelings.
 
Becca is right
/discussion
 
@Reno Chew-becca is right
 
@Reno what is the Solution is then
 
1:27 PM
Stop worrying about it. :P
 
@SankarGanesh, disappointing you? You want quality. Are the other rooms quality? If not, why would you want them merged in to your quality room?
 
makes chewbecca weird laughing sound
 
@YiJiang hrmph
 
@RebeccaChernoff Bcoz @Marcwell, told me we cannot delete rooms, so we can merge the rooms like that
 
@SankarGanesh There's no merge button for chat, again.
 
1:28 PM
Let them freeze over time @SankarGanesh
Patience man
 
@Reno Thanks, Marc Gravell merged rooms in the month of November at that time he told we cannot delete the rooms, that's why i went for Merging,
@Reno: Yes Reno, Freeze them and We have to stop these Illegal Activities First,Thanks for taking my considerations
@Reno: Also i was wonder, why those people asking your hometown
 
They were picking on me
 
@Reno I was confuses what they do if they know your HomeTown
 
I dont know/ I don't care
 
@Reno: On the Behalf , those guys i m asking Sorry to You, Because i was disappointed they are also belongs from my country , Very Sorry Mate
 
1:32 PM
That's my country too
 
@SankarGanesh I know the feeling
especially since local administration elections in Italy just ended
and now we'll learn about Berlusconi's latest success
 
Trolls don't have a nationality
 
@Reno hmmm, well said, MY dear friend, Reno, Your so Matured
@badpssockpuppet Thanks, :)
 
@Reno Trolls vote yknow.
 
'Ello @BilltheLizard
 
1:36 PM
Hi @TimStone
 
@BilltheLizard: pls review the above conversation and convey your thoughts, this is my humble request, pls
 
@badpssockpuppet whoa I just read Berlusconi's page
 
@Reno where?
 
wikipedia i mean
 
@badpssockpuppet Ooo, Berlusconi. Ha, well at least comedians will have continue to have someone to make fun of, after Bush
 
1:41 PM
brb friends
 
2:04 PM
@badpssockpuppet Nice use of Romania. I approve. ;)
 
Luckily you have a Gaming account so I can check how big of a gaffe that was
Okay, could've been worse.
 
@GeorgeMarian hi, how do u do, meet you after so many days, wake from sleep ah??
 
I'm fine. I guess you could call it sleep.
 
@GeorgeMarian hmmm
@GeorgeMarian: I have a Question, Consider you are very Joyful in character and now you are moving from one frim to new frim, in the firm will you continue same Joyful char or keep as slient one until you the new people mind
 
2:12 PM
Consider our advice on how to use chat and I may consider attempting to interpret what you just wrote.
 
@GeorgeMarian can't get you George
 
Quit notifying me for every little worthless chat message.
Just ask your question to the room and if anyone has input, they will share it.
That's the point of being here.
 
ok, sure
 
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Q: How to use Office 2010's co-authoring tools?

Yi JiangOffice 2010 is suppose to feature some interesting collaboration tools that supposedly allows for real-time co-authoring of documents similar to what Google Docs offers. However, when me and my friend tried to make it work over SkyDrive we only got a dialog similar to this: These are the step...

Anybody has experience with Office 2010?
 
@YiJiang Hmm, I don't think I've tried to do that, but I can probably test here shortly.
 
2:20 PM
@SankarGanesh Now to answer that question. When you move to a new company, you want to learn how things work there, how the culture is and so on. I would still be myself, but I would tone it down until I got to know people and they got to know me.
 
@GeorgeMarian Thanks
 
This is the same with any group of humans, not just a company. Weren't you studying psychology?
 
@GeorgeMarian yes, i have exp on this, that's why i shooted to you and i m wirting a Question on Skeptics
 
:)
@GeorgeMarian: Help me whether i had formed the Question in Nice Manner
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Q: How People React in New Enivornment?

Sankar GaneshHi All, Let us Assume a person is JoyFul , Bubbly and so humorous in character and also he is a Sentiment character person, If that person living or working in a environment, suddenly if the person changes or relocated to some where i.e.,a new unknowing environment, can we advice that person ...

 
2:27 PM
sigh You're not a quick learner, are you?
 
gets popcorn
 
Why are you posting that on Skeptics?
 
I didn't get much sleep last night. Can you tell?
Speaking of popcorn, I think I need to get some food in me.
 
Nope I cannot tell why you are not getting much sleep
 
2:30 PM
@GeorgeMarian Ouch, that sucks. :/
 
@YiJiang we can shoot psychology related Questions there , so that only i posted there
Oh Shit, they closed My Question and DownVoted , Very saad
 
> If you have a question about the accuracy of public claims made in the media or elsewhere, if you're interested in the evidence behind what you hear or read, then you are in the right place.
What made you think your questions fits that?
 
@TimStone Yeah, especially since I'm not exactly sure why. I did kinda screw up my sleep schedule over the weekend, but I in bed at 11:30 and actually fell asleep quite quickly.
 
@balpha I want to Share the Doubts in psychology and con selling a person, so that only i need some people views in this Experiment, is it wrong to share information and get other people views
 
Then, I woke up at 1:30 for some reason. Tried to fall back asleep for the 1.5 hours. Got up when that didn't work. Tried again at 5 when I thought I felt sleepy and would have some success. shrug Oh well. Maybe in a few hours.
 
2:58 PM
-53
Q: recursion - Adding numbers

JamesWrite a recursive function add_pos(x, y), assuming y is not negative, that returns the sum of x and y using the functions def minus1(x): return x-1 def plus1(x): return x+1

Reddit + Free Downvotes = This
 
3:11 PM
+193 to the answer though... wow
 
waitasecond, 193 votes in 13 hours?
talk about voting ring activate
 
hehehe
-53 : +193 <- One heck of a reversal
 
3:26 PM
yay flag weigth
 
3:39 PM
Quora was featured in WIRED magazine this month.
 
I think they've been listed in there more than once tho
That tells me if things are fads, if they get a featured spot in a place like Wired. Sure, more people will check it out, but that balloon is hard to ride.
 
And they have a headline "why Android beat the iPhone". That's odd because the article starts by changing that stance to "how android could win" and it ends with a complete backtrack.
(slow responses = me on iOS atm)
 
@GeorgeMarian That's rough. I finally fixed my sleep schedule after I came back from vacation (thanks to the time difference, my poor sleep schedule there was appropriate for here), but then I messed it up again..trying to fix that, heh. Also, hooray for 1-hour "15-minute" meetings..
 
@drachenstern yea, I hear that.
 
Why is UX SE special enough that it gets to have a non-Sketchy design while it's still a beta?
 
3:44 PM
@TimStone Those are the best. =/
 
@PopularDemand I've decided that it's in infinite beta.
@GeorgeMarian Don't even get me started, heh. shakes head
 
Evening Gentlemen. Somebody called 911?
 
Somebody flagged "shit"? That is a clear case of Wasting Police Time
 
I don't mind meetings, per se. It's the inefficient ones that bug me.
 
3:47 PM
Please come to the "Let's get Philosophical" room for re-education.
 
@Pekkasothertrollingaccount It was me. I didn't really mind, but it is against site policy.
 
@Pekkasothertrollingaccount lol
 
What's the joke with that +203 answer, for those of us who don't speak Python?
 
@GeorgeMarian I don't think that we actually accomplished anything in that time frame, so you can judge the level of efficiency for yourself.
 
Alas, too many fall into that category.
 
3:48 PM
@PopularDemand I don't get it either. I mean, -57?
In 14 hours?
 
That more I think about it, the more businesses remind me of high school.
 
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A: Are expletives allowed on SE sites?

Jeff AtwoodNo. Expletives are not acceptable behavior on meta or any other Stack Overflow site. If you can't effectively communicate what you need to say without resorting to lowest common denominator cursing, then keep it to yourself. If you use expletives, you will get a warning. If you continue to use...

@Pekkasothertrollingaccount Hey, question downvotes are free, man. Maybe I'll go add one, just because I can....
 
@Pekkasothertrollingaccount Reddit.
 
@GeorgeMarian life reminds me of high school (on the good days. On the bad days it reminds me of lunch at high school. On the bleak days it reminds me of the end of middle school.)
 
lol
@PopularDemand > You joined the site just to ask others to do your homework? Thats pretty un-awesome. Hope you get answers so complicated, its clear you cheated.
=/
 
3:57 PM
@GeorgeMarian I enjoyed that.
 
And the votes keep coming in. heh
 
Oof. 1 rep, 1 gold badge, 1 silver badge, 1 bronze badge? There should be a special dishonorable mention for that.
 
@PopularDemand I had the same urge. And I don't know the first thing about Python :)
@TimStone I see.
 
4:16 PM
ping @balpha
 
I feel pinged.
 
Remember that vulnerability we worked on a few months ago?
 
yeah
 
data.se suffers it as well
 
what vuln is this?
 
4:20 PM
does data.SE even offer anything when local?
 
if you won't discuss it openly, perhaps you will privately on gmail?
 
Wait a tick, it appears that it doesn't have custom error pages at all (I get a runtime error page)
 
It appears to be lunch time, hmm..
 
I'm not seeing a stack trace, so that's a good sign, I could have overreacted
 
@TimStone Pondering what to eat?
 
4:23 PM
Yeah, pretty much. I seem to be running low on food.
 
They make these most wonderful inventions
 
Why is it so hard for people in this room -- myself included -- to figure out what to eat?
 
Even better than transportable tabulators
@PopularDemand because we like food?
 
Here is where I would make a "there's an app for that" joke if I owned a smartphone.
@drachenstern You can like food and know exactly what you want to eat.
 
@PopularDemand Would you like a Wheel of Food?
 
4:24 PM
There actually is, I think.
 
touche
 
@YiJiang I've already created one.
 
@YiJiang yes. Sadly it would only contain Bacon
 
Well, that too. There's also an app that randomly picks restaurants for you. :P
 
@drachenstern Or you could, you know, talk to the other members of your household. In person. Perhaps while in the house. By the refrigerator, even.
 
4:26 PM
@PopularDemand but then how will I remember what I need when I get to the store?
 
@PopularDemand It isn't! I just opened the fridge, saw ground turkey defrosting, tossed in a skillet, added spices, cooked, added a little sauce. Done.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Once again, you are backwards.
 
rolls her eyes
 
@RebeccaChernoff So the solution to my "What should I eat?" problem is just to give you free access to my refrigerator. I think I can do that.
 
Besides, having meat defrosting is cheating. You can't really choose to do something else without wasting the meat. Not for more than a few meals, anyways.
 
4:28 PM
I also have chicken defrosting in the fridge. I HAD TO CHOOSE!
 
@RebeccaChernoff It doesn't sound like you chose tho, since you had TWO things defrosting.
@TimStone I'll go for the second available time-slot
 
I was considering an omelette as well.
I need my garden to hurry up so I can have fresh veggies!
 
@RebeccaChernoff I don't know, one doesn't usually make something, then decides whether or not to eat it. But anyway, if I were to make something, then choose, I'd probably choose to eat out instead
 
@TimStone Ha. Actually, in college, I had a deal with my friends. If they showed up at my door with ingredients and agreed to clean up and share with me, I'd do the cooking.
 
WHY DO I NOT HAVE FRIENDS LIKE THIS?!
 
4:32 PM
@RebeccaChernoff That is a fantastic deal. I definitely knew some "dorm mom" types, myself.
@TimStone Oh, drop the "like this," you're not fooling anyone.
 
@TimStone ME TOO
 
It's true. sobs
 
@PopularDemand I can't decide between star or lul
 
@TimStone (Your all caps gave you away.)
 
@PopularDemand Heh. This was after we all moved out of dorms into apartments.
 
4:33 PM
@drachenstern Neither one of those is defrosting meat. You don't have to choose.
 
@PopularDemand lulz, have a star
 
@RebeccaChernoff Well, yeah, but I couldn't think of a better title. If you have one, I'll happily defer.
 
It was fantabulous. I paid less for groceries, I got to cook lots, which I love, and more importantly, I didn't have to clean up afterwards!
 
I think you were superior, though. The people I knew tended to be bakers, so we got cookies and cupcakes a lot, but not much real food.
 
@PopularDemand I know, I let the desperation shine through. A fatal mistake.
But don't worry, I have salmon. All is right in the world, scoped to me finding lunch.
 
4:35 PM
@TimStone I figured he was calling you out like this: (theoatmeal.com/comics/working_home)
 
@RebeccaChernoff How have you ever managed to adjust to... well, I don't know your current food situation, but I assume it's no longer like the college situation?
 
What I really wanted for lunch was shrimp, because I was going to make my horseradish/cocktail sauce, but someone missed a bag of groceries and left the shrimp out on the counter. ):
 
Oh right, I have shrimp too.
 
ouch
shrimps don't like that, not at all
speaking of cooking shrimps, omg, nom nom nom
 
4:39 PM
@PopularDemand Well, luckily after college I had a job and could afford to buy the groceries I wanted. (: Still hate cleaning up the kitchen though.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Aw, I was imagining an elaborate scheme of maids and neighbors.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I thought they have this magical device in the West called the dishwasher that, eh, sort of does the job for you
 
Speaking of maids, I found out this morning that the British still use the term "chambermaid." Hilarious! Or something.
 
@drachenstern The resemblance to my life, sans becoming a filthy blob, is disturbing. :P
 
sliced bell peppers (so red, green, yellow, orange, etc), sliced red onions, chopped bacon slices (about 1.5" - 2" long) and about 200 medium sized shrimp on a barbecue on a pan that looks like this tasteofbbq.com/images/grill_topper.jpg ... omg, that makes the most awesome side I've ever eaten.
 
4:41 PM
@YiJiang I find there are many things that the dishwasher is inappropriate for washing.
 
@YiJiang Eh, you still have to rinse them. And skillets don't go in the wash. And I also, just, um...sort of make a mess in the kitchen. (:
 
@drachenstern Congratulations, you've done the impossible: made bacon into an unnecessary distraction from the main course.
 
Unfortunately, this usually ends up being everything that you actually got messy while cooking.
 
I start with the bacon and the peppers, then add the onions (or just grill them on the side of the grill) and then lastly add the shrimps when the bacon is about half done
 
@YiJiang Sadly, I must concur with Tim.
 
4:41 PM
@RebeccaChernoff why not?
@PopularDemand the bacon IS the main course, the shrimp is the garnish
I challenge you to make that this summer at some point.
 
Ah good, the oven has beeped.
 
4:59 PM
@TimStone Has this issue been addressed? Can we go back to talking?
 
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