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4:03 PM
multiple inboxes?
 
I'm pretty sure that's the name of the feature ... lemme doublecheck
Jep, that's what it's called
So I take it nobody uses that particular feature in here then? (that's active at any rate)
 
Not I
 
well pffft to you bunch of snobs :p
 
I still don't know what it is :P
 
so Tim how is it you seem to have been active here before me this AM? No sleep last night?
 
4:12 PM
I went to sleep...early :O
OK, at like 2:30.
 
@TimStone you should check it out, it's pretty handy if you have several tags you want to keep track of simultaneously but that you don't want cluttering your main inbox feed.
like all my FB messages bypass the inbox and get tagged FB and so I see them in their own corner of the screen
same for drafts, always at my fingertips, but not on my main mail list
keeps life easy on my phone too
 
If I decide to stop using Thunderbird, maybe I will. ;)
 
oh, I see the snobbery now, you and your fancy desktop clients :p
idk, I'm kinda into this whole cloudapp thing for things which are not my personal photo collection
This is why I read TDWTF comments from time to time thedailywtf.com/Comments/…
ok, I was going to do something this morning ... and it was going to be vaguely like work I think ...
 
@drachenstern - I use multiple inboxes, why?
 
@Moshe do your checkboxes on the right have some overlap with the field to their right, thus occluding the full checkbox?
 
4:26 PM
checking... I often use Mail for Mac OS X too ;-)
 
Nope, but I'm using Safari.
 
It's a fairly full sized screen (1400x900 or thereabouts) so I should have plenty of horizontal real estate.
@Moshe well I'm using Chrome so it should all be webkit
 
Ah, but you're placing them side by side?
I have mine all stacked on top of each other.
 
yeah, much easier. I don't keep a lot in my inbox
and those are all limited to 6 (as evidenced above) so I never have a scroll bar
if I want to find something I have a handy search
 
4:29 PM
Ah, repro!
On the right column only.
The main inbox is fine.
 
Yeah, only on the right column. Glad I'm not going bonkers then
ty for the repro
 
np
@drachenstern I'm thinking about Nippon 2.
 
@Moshe howso
 
Bettee graphics, nonstandard features.
More "gamey"
See, Dope Wars was revolutionary on Palm, but on iOS, there's Angry Birds.
 
Ok, so I see it like this:
 
4:31 PM
DOPE BIRDS!
 
You're original intent was to "recreate a classic" but take it from being about drugs to being something a little more family friendly.
Now you want to take a classic and reimagine it for a new audience.
 
Yea, I suppose that's accurate.
 
So ... reimagine it. Don't stay constrained to the bounds of the old one.
 
I wont. :-)
 
get out a blank sheet of paper and write down all the things that you want to do in the new one
@Moshe you should delete it for reals
 
4:33 PM
I will, after I get out a few bits for a client, and a seasonal app for myself.
But yea, for sure. I want to reinvent it.
 
Cool.
@AdamD I never got a testflight anything ... something on your end?
 
I've gotten all kinds of feedback from friends/family and even (sshh...) an Apple Store employee.
The basis of the game is still trading, but it's got to be more interesting for folks.
@drachenstern I know you hate audio in games, but it makes it more immersive.
It's the audiovisual that keeps people interested.
 
Just don't override my music that I'm playing when I load your game. Allow me to play my own or use yours or both side by side.
 
Of course.
 
I routinely play games and listen to podcasts side-by-side
 
4:35 PM
I have to look up which audio session I should be using, but it's not hard to do that.
Oh @RebeccaChernoff - Thanks. I got a phone call this morning that I have a package waiting for me.
By the way, if anyone here has Nippon, please note that each version can get a separate review, so feel free to go review Nippon (again). Thanks for your support!
 
Hmmm, does this mean I have a package waiting on me too? :p
@Moshe I tried that, it only let me edit my first review
I probably did something wrong
 
@drachenstern It posts the edited one as a new one, IIRC.
 
interesting
 
Yea. it'll update the version number too.
@drachenstern - Try different gmail themes, btw. I haven't but that might help the checkbox thing.
 
Hmmm, I'll keep that in mind, but if you repro'd the odds of us both using the same theme are minimal
 
4:40 PM
I'm using the defauly theme.
 
Yeah I'm not
 
In Windows, consistent delayed write fails are a sign of a bad hard drive, right?
 
or a driver error
where are you seeing those, and is it on a USB?
 
A relative is seeing them on their hard drive.
Windows XP, fairly old machine.
 
Is it in the windows event viewer or a popup message?
 
4:44 PM
popup
yellow balloon
> I saved a file but i keep getting this annoying bubble that it is not saved. why is that and how do i get rid of bubble?
 
Thought so. I would definitely replace the drive. But I bet that's on a USB drive, cos that's where I've actually seen that come up. I've never seen that on an internal drive, which if I did it would freak me OUT
 
I'm not sure if it's a USB drive, I think not though.
Actually, the screenshot is on the K drive
Yea, it's external. My mistake.
ok, I'm out for now.
 
Yeah, so there's a way to force Windows to not allow delayed writes on external media, but I think it's by device, and it's in the control panel for sure.
 
Thank @drachenstern.
Ah, ok.
 
oh, you might could get to it from right clicking the drive
but yeah, you should go over there to do it
 
4:49 PM
Ok. I told them to replace the drive. It's the simplest thing for them at this point.
 
ok then
 
I just sent out the email.
I have to get going.
Thank you @drachenstern.
 
ciao ciao
@Moshe naturlich
 
Danke. :-)
Tchüss
 
doch, naturlich
and if I remember my german lessons, that's the point I wanted to get across.
 
5:00 PM
@drachenstern: how to make my carrier2.0 profile to visible to all hirings people, bcoz so far it has been viewed by couple of peoples only
 
@SankarGanesh that sounds like a question for a community coordinator type of person.
 
@drachenstern Well, i will ask them
 
Let's see who's about: @RebeccaChernoff do you know who to ask about that?
Hey cool, apparently I'm:
> Top 20% on SO for c# javascript jquery asp.net
 
@drachenstern know i donot know whom to ask , on this
 
I don't really know much about careers. There's a link to mark it public.
 
5:02 PM
@drachenstern: i m Top 10% on Android
 
@SankarGanesh hence my next comment after that one
 
@RebeccaChernoff Thanks
 
whoa ... um, thanks for reading my mind uploader?
that ... wasn't what I expected to have happen
 
@SankarGanesh does your "public view" say "published"?
 
5:04 PM
@drachenstern wait, i m checking
 
hehe, importing my linkedin suddenly made me 165% complete :D
 
Overly broad question:
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Q: How can I run Website Calls as Test

Codex73I need to run different consecutive calls to test a web service. What is the simplest approach? I can run either asp.net or php script. https://ws1/ws/ws.aspx?propid=10468&action=1&pwd=dsdgsdfgs https://ws1/ws/ws.aspx?propid=1022&action=1&pwd=dsdgsdfgs https://ws1/ws/ws.aspx?pro...

"What is the simplest approach?" Is that too broad?
 
@Moshe I thought you were leaving
 
I left.
 
@drachenstern: it's hidden, when i made it public, i m getting this error Page Not Found

Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!

If you feel something is missing that should be here, contact us.
 
5:07 PM
Then I went to SO for a little bit.
Which led me back.
Tchüss
 
@Moshe ciao ciao
@SankarGanesh that is not something I can answer directly. Does anybody here know who's in charge of careers2.0 dev work?
What am I saying, of course somebody here knows, the question is who knows and whom is in charge :p
 
@drachenstern ok, let me wait
 
Email careers@stackoverflow.com or post on MSO.
 
@RebeccaChernoff oh you make it so easy :p
 
gist: FB APP, 2011-03-30 13:42:22Z
@RebeccaChernoff: pls see that github
 
5:16 PM
@SankarGanesh that .. seems useless. Why are you asking her to look at it?
 
@drachenstern i hope, she may help me, on that problem
 
It looks like a generic problem, since it's about facebook and not about stackoverflow
perhaps you would like to write a question on SO and link to that gistfile with a description of what the problem is?
 
@drachenstern Sure
 
However, I see this error right away:
> Key format expected byte[] but value was a java.lang.String. The default value <null> was returned.
Do you understand what that error means?
 
@drachenstern yes, mate i knew that
 
5:20 PM
@SankarGanesh so what is the question then? Is it "why am I getting this error?" ?
 
@drachenstern you know when i m Bundling it , i used pustByteArray rather than putString see my code, but still it throws in facebook class Util method code
 
@SankarGanesh yeah, I would put it as a FB question, since I don't really grok Android FB app development ... I can read the lines, but I don't know all the classes and etc involved.
 
@drachenstern yes, i will put as FB question to
 
5:44 PM
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Q: Need Help in publishing Checkin in FaceBook?

Sankar GaneshI had tried to publish checkin from my android app, so i had wrote like this public String APP_ID="101782413241377"; Facebook authenticatedFacebook = new Facebook(APP_ID); AsyncFacebookRunner fbinvoker=new AsyncFacebookRunner(authenticatedFacebook); Bundle params = new ...

 
@SankarGanesh At first glance, that's a really long post.
Please consider using SSCCEs in the future. Sometimes you'll even solve your own problem as you're writing one!
 
@PopularDemand oh, then what to do, shall i put my github link
 
At a minimum, though, please indent all your code by four spaces so the formatter knows what's going on. I'll fix this post for you.
 
stupid timer on comments ....
 
@Moshe I sent you another mail with a link to sign on with your regular account.
 
5:48 PM
@AdamDavis didja get my at?
@PopularDemand OMG THANK YOU FOR THAT LINK ... It is going on my bookmarks list!
 
@SankarGanesh I'm not familiar with Android or facebook; what's a checkin in this context?
 
I think I hit the flag review jackpot: Post Closed, Post Locked, Mod Deletes Migration History, Post Unlocked, Post Reopened, Post Deleted, Edit Body, Post Locked
 
@PopularDemand A new concept introduced in Facebook
 
@drachenstern Yep. As soon as moshe signs up for the beta with a good udid, I'll push it out the door provisioned for you guys.
 
@PopularDemand It's facebook trying to take over foursquare
 
5:50 PM
@AdamDavis oh ok, I thought maybe I had done something wrong
 
@drachenstern Nope, you're all set.
 
@PopularDemand I also think he's posting his private API-access codes to SO ;)
 
Okay, I see it now. Stand by, this edit will take a few more minutes....
 
If anyone else wants to beta test my "nearest nuclear power plant" iOS app, sign up here: bit.ly/elZWE1 in the next hour. You can get an overview of the app here: semiaxis.com/reactors
 
5:53 PM
What do you mean by "Code of openUrl Metod in util.java file"?
Did you create a package named util.java?
 
@PopularDemand I imagine he's using someone else's code ...
/afk
 
In other decision-making: Should I keep pursuing this, or cut my losses?
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Q: URL Encode Decode Mismatch

c12Hello, I need to put the below value in a url query string parameter and when the user clicks the link I will read that value. I'm having issues encoding and decoding it to the correct value. Below is what I've tried without success, ideas? starting key=bÚËyÒÛ then I URLEncoder.encode("bÚËyÒ...

@drachenstern You're welcome. I'm amazed you haven't seen it before, I see it at least once a day on SO.
I suppose that only proves yet again that I'm hanging out at the wrong questions.
 
6:09 PM
@PopularDemand fwiw, it's a carriage-return+line-feed that's getting inserted into his encoded URL
 
@Shog9 Argh. I suspected that earlier and then got distracted by something shiny and forgot.
 
@PopularDemand You are easily distracted by shiny things too? What a coinci - oooOOOoooh, what's that?!?? ... I'm sorry, did you say something?
 
It's official, I'm slow: penny-arcade.com/2011/3/30
 
@drachenstern I don't see how slow <--> penny-arcade.com/2011/3/30
 
6:24 PM
@AdamDavis it was supposed to be dumb :p they posted it at like 10:45
And then apparently there was a later post after that ... grr URLs
 
hehehe
 
6:40 PM
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Q: Cannot read warning messages on meta.

oKtosiTeAlthough I have to admit to being colorblind, I noticed that it was next to impossible for me to read the following warning messages: I can only discern that text by: a. Selecting it b. Changing the angle at which I view my TFT monitor. I think being colorblind shouldn't have to mean I ha...

So, who do I scorn for the design of meta.photo.SE?
 
@oKtosiTe Design usually means @Jin. I'm guessing this was a line of CSS left over from a previous stylesheet, which would be... slightly less his fault.
 
@PopularDemand Thanks. I'll consider @Jin notified then. :-)
 
For those interested, here's a discussion on the 'subjective/objective' lines of Stack Exchange sites (in the Boardgame context):
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Q: Do we want 'Game Like ..." questions?

Lance RobertsI think we're getting too many "Game Like ..." questions, like this and that. These seem to be very subjective with so few details that thousands of games could be listed. You also could make thousands of these types of questions by just subbing another game name in, "Games of same depth as Ca...

 
7:06 PM
So close to 20K on Super User. I think I'm going to have to edit some tag wikis.....
 
Is "what's a good tutorial for X" an acceptable SO question? I've seen several of them recently.
 
@PopularDemand I don't personally think so, I think those are a better fit on programmers. Because to me those are more about personal development and self-learning than about technical walkthrough. However, that having been said, there's something to the aspect of keeping them on SO to discuss the technical merits. I think if it's a question about the technical merits of a class of tutorial, then yes for SO. If it's about "where do I go to learn about X?" then I'm not sure it fits on SO. @ChrisF you?
 
@drachenstern It would have to be well phrased - and have specific learning goals - for it not to be a "List of X" type question
 
Yeah, List of X I'm not down with. That's what Google excels at.
 
That's what I think too. Must be a normal fluctuation in volume, I guess.
 
7:16 PM
Does anybody here use Prototype regularly enough to consider themselves a genius at it? I'm curious if there's a tool that can parse a file and build an HTML API reference of the class ...
@PopularDemand apply the objectivity test and VtC if it fails (and cross-post to the reg hq)
 
Right that's it - 3 tag wiki edits (6 posts, 2 points a post) and I should be at 20K
 
7:33 PM
@Moshe @drachenstern You've got mail!
 
@AdamDavis egads! However did you know! quit spying on me!
"Installing..."
 
spy spy spy...
 
"Loading..."
 
It even tells me when you've opened the email, clicked on the link, and downloaded the app. testflightapp.com is very stalker-ish.
 
lol, interesting
does it tell you when I ... move the app on my screen to a folder bwahahaha
does it tell you when I ... open the app and let it not use my current location bwahahaha
 
7:38 PM
Ok, got your location... sending cruise missiles...
 
ok, I'm curious now ...
I can pan the google map by pinching and zooming in different directions, but not by dragging it with one finger
can you do something about that?
 
@drachenstern - Josh does Prototype
 
It's done that way on purpose, so you can scroll back to the top of the detail page.
 
what license will expire?
@Moshe yes. I know.
 
Hrm, maybe I ought to add a few definitions on the info page.
The license is the one that allows them to run the reactor. If they do things right, the license will expire on a set date. They can extend it once. It can be revoked if they don't keep up with inspections and make changes the inspections require.
Regarding the map scrolling, what is your opinion - have a button that opens the map in a new view where scrolling and zooming work as expected, or leave it on the same view with scrolling disabled so you can scroll back to the top of the view? You can still scroll, but you have to use two fingers.
 
7:42 PM
Argh, why can't people just choose words that describe their problems accurately and without ambiguity?
 
@PopularDemand I'm of the opinion that if they could do that, they wouldn't have the problem in the first place.
 
@AdamDavis I figured that, but was just curious
@AdamDavis I second that opinion.
@PopularDemand because then they would know how to communicate effectively and we can't be having that can we now?
 
I feel like I've had a lot of posts invalidated lately by the OP saying "Oh, yeah, I know I said X, but what I really meant was Y. Can you also solve that"
 
@AdamDavis is that the one with the (i)? Yes, I think so.
 
Of course, that's the sort of thing where it only has to happen once or twice and it feels like it happens all the time.
 
7:45 PM
@PopularDemand If it makes you feel better, all the posts you hate are actually created by me using sockpuppets as an exercise to frustrate you. Why I want to frustrate you I have no idea, but I'm not going to change a winning strategy.
 
@PopularDemand indeed
since I started the app with "no you may not have my location" I can't turn it on with the crosshairs
closing and unloading from memory
relaunching.
I did not get prompted again
 
@drachenstern Interesting! That's not intended.
 
Yeah, that's why I tested that particular code-path ;)
I have a habit of doing that on everyone's code but my own
I would make a great professional tester, I think.
ok, I should really go get food.
 
Give yourself a pat on the back!
And a cheeseburger.
 
@AdamDavis gah, I have no burgers for cheesing ... I should do something about that next time I goto the store
 
7:49 PM
damn, too bad Five Guys Burgers & Fries is so far away..
 
indeed
I could use a good greasy spoon burger and steak fries and a large vanilla coke from a real jerk, and a slice of pie.
/afk
 
I started an email to you last night @drachenstern, but got distracted with company... it's saved as a draft and I'll get back to it eventually. :)
 
@drachenstern Ah, I see the problem. It is indeed a bug.
 
@drachenstern Would you also like infinite money while you're at it?
 
@Fosco that's all good. It's just a bit of talkin things out ;) does me good to ya know :p
 
7:51 PM
However, it should ask you on startup again, unless iOS is assuming that you are going to refuse and doesn't ask you a second time.
 
@drachenstern Also I totally thought this said "professional taster" at first. Probably because I saw "food" first.
 
selfish behavior inducing positive responses and all that jazz
 
My app saves no state.
 
@AdamDavis it did not ... :\ I'll try again after lunch
 
You could unload it and reload it.
 
7:51 PM
@PopularDemand please.
@AdamDavis I did that
that very thing
5 mins ago, by drachenstern
closing and unloading from memory
foooooooooooooooooodddddddddddddddddddddddddd
 
I menat to say delete and reinstall.
 
bbiab
 
reminds everyone that it's 4:20 somewhere
 
Go eat!
/me looks at watch, then looks quizically @Fosco , wondering what he's smoking to think that...
 
@AdamDavis Most likely he was just treating @drachenstern the way you treat me.
 
7:54 PM
@RebeccaChernoff, just popping in to say that globalStorage is nearly ready ;) And that I'm still alive...
 
Hurray for globalStorage!
 
@Adam: jsfiddle.net/Benjol/XNbXF for the curious
 
@Benjol nice!
 
GlobalStorage? Do tell for those of us on iOS
 
LUNCH IS BLTs! HURRAY FOR CRAPPY STORE-BOUGHT TOMATOES!
 
8:03 PM
Lunch?
It's 2103 you heathen
 
It's 14:03. And I'M HUNGRY.
 
14:03? In your false illusion you call a timezone maybe
It's very blatantly 21:05
 
Olives. I need olives
 
@badpssockpuppet You don't do DST?
 
The Correct Earth Time does not observe DST; indeed, we're lending it to the UK for a few months
However, the ungrateful british are too ashamed of sharing a timezone with us and cover it behind a convenience name, 'BST'
It, yet, remains the Correct Earth Time.
Unlike the Erroneous, Dumb Time, the Confusing Derp Time, the Mischevious Dysfunctional Time and the Preposterous Davis Time.
 
8:22 PM
I object to Derp time, were nit Derp
May be on iOS tho
Ok, I have a serious issue to bring before the council today. Who makes an effing decent hot dog bun?
 
@drachenstern Closing as subjective and argumentative. Will vote to open if you reword to ask about specific details like color, desired softness, length, cut style, &c.
 
8:39 PM
Then I'll vote to close as NARQ because you're asking too many things at once.
 
9:25 PM
\O/ My port of a sunrise class seems to work!
 
Edit: Who as a vendor produces a hot dog bun that will hold my hot dog without falling apart on the side opposite the initial cut? I am willing to accept a variety of coloration, softness or length and the cut does not have to be on the side of the bun. My previous experience has only been with buns sold in an 8-pack configuration.
@Moshe nice
 
It's spewing something and it looks accurate.
 
Yatta!
 
Thanks.
 
Doesn't the NWS or NOAA or someone publish stats on sunrises etc?
 
9:26 PM
They do.
I'm using an algorithm based on theirs and other research.
I ported Java to Objective-C.
But now I have to take 11.something and make it offset to my time zone and convert point something to minutes
 
Surely that's not tricky for you
 
@drachenstern Oh, wait. I wasn't thinking.
11.xyz - floor(11.xyz)
That should do it, no?
 
to do what?
 
I want .xyz
Ok, great. Now, to test!
By the way, @drachenstern good game, last time.
Close score.
 
@Moshe thanks, you too
 
9:36 PM
Ugh... My math is failing me now.
I need to get sixtieths.
Wait, perhaps not
Got it.
 
You know you just multiply .xyz * 60 and then repeat the subtract math again and multiply by the fractional part again to get seconds right?
the last part is in regular decimal form
so 11 and 3/8 would become 11 hours, 22 minutes, 30 seconds.
11.4124 would be 11 hours, 24 minutes, 44.64 seconds
 
For sunset today in NYC I have:
11.533815 GMT
 
@drachenstern Zoelsmann's Bakery, couple blocks north of here, has some great buns. Flavorful, chewy, substantial. They'll hold up to shredded barbecue dripping with grease and sauce - a hotdog should be nothing.
 
@Shog9 just as I figured, I'll have to visit a real bakery to get good buns
@Moshe that's 11 hours, 32 minutes, 1.734 seconds
 
@drachenstern It's still off, I suppose because of elevation...
 
9:43 PM
From poking around the new rep graph I discovered that Jeff once earned 1233 meta rep in one day. My record is 245 rep :(
 
@drachenstern Nation-wide, this should do the trick... if you can find them.
 
with the current application of GMT offset that becomes local time 7:32:01.734 which seems awful late
 
@drachenstern That's sunset, my mistake.
 
@Moshe well that seems right
@Shog9 nice! I'll keep my eyes peeled then
 
It's off by about ten minutes. I reckon that's elevation.
 
9:44 PM
@Moshe how do you figure? It's not quite 7:30 pm in your area
Is that the leading edge of the TZ?
 
@drachenstern And IIRC, they're only par-baked - you actually have to steam them if you want the right texture.
 
@Shog9 for a quality bun, that's acceptable.
 
@drachenstern Sunset is around 7:30 here, and Google lead me to this:
 
@Moshe around 7:30 is what you calculated
@Moshe prove that that is right and that yours is wrong
 
@drachenstern Fair enough. It could also be the zenith used.
There are several and so I could be using the civil zenith as opposed to astronomical zenith.
Which are several points of a degree of IIRC.
 
9:48 PM
that's ... rather a large discrepancy
 
@drachenstern I know. Civil sunrise and civil sunset arent so different from astronomical.
One is when the suns light is visible and one is when the radius of the sun is visible.
Hardly a large time difference.
 
@Moshe if we're talking golfballs or basketballs, perhaps not. If we're talking planets that are thousands of miles across, or suns that are millions of miles, perhaps so
 
@drachenstern I mean that the difference of time between the suns rays being visible and the actual sun hitting the horizon, it could be about 10-20 minutes.
 
@Moshe that's about 8 minutes, if memory serves me correct
 
@drachenstern Ah, well then I'm pretty close.
Also, I wonder if that site uses a different latitude and longitude.
 
9:58 PM
12 mins ago, by drachenstern
@Moshe prove that that is right and that yours is wrong
Just because a site exists does not make the site right.
Exhibit A: timecube.com
 

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