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12:00 AM
thank you
 
tell me why reinstalling a package won't restore a deleted configuration file? I need to open dpkg and actually manually purge each and every package
 
@ircmaxell which package manager?
 
apt
 
ah, so IIRC there is a dpkg command to install config files
lemmie look real quick
 
12:07 AM
eih, it's done anyway
but I had to go through each package (20 of them)
and run dpkg -P packagename
 
ugh
next time dpkg-reconfigure <packagename>
 
Why does it take me longer to fix what the boss did than it takes him to screw it up?
 
fair enough
 
@drachenstern baby jebus hates you
 
why it's even needed, I don't know
I wouldn't expect upgrade to restore them
but remove followed by install should
 
12:09 AM
yea dunno
debian has always been ... off
 
@drachenstern Ha - I think anything that can be broken can be broken in less time than it can be fixed.
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@Zypher CentOS(RHEL) FTW
 
yea .. i mena an rm -rf / will run for like 30 mins ... DAYS to recover
 
zactly!
 
@Zypher RM -rf / on my test VM took me 1 minute to run and 5 more for my template to come back :P
 
12:12 AM
haha
yea the base os isn't the biggest problem
:)
 
lol
 
@Zypher No it really does because quite frankly all Ubuntu machines can commit suicide for all I care
 
hahaha
 
@Zypher Windows>Ubuntu
 
@Jacob Amen to that
@Jacob I'm not so sure about that one. I know Ubuntu isn't great, but it's not hat bad
 
12:14 AM
@Jacob meh ... it's all about the right tool
which i always have of course : )
 
@Zypher Not Possible SE is a Windows stack? I'm sure that kills you
 
nah i really don't care
I started on OS 7, moved to windows, moved to Netware, to linux, to windows to linux to windows/linux
they are have thier pros and cons, you get to know them you can put the right piece in the right place
and have a better system for it
 
yeah
 
@Zypher I have 5 servers, 3 CentOS(because its teh right OS for teh jobz) and 2 that run windows for some other stuff... Too bad they just act as space heaters :(
 
philosophy should never have anything to do with your infrastructure
it should be all about putting the right server behind the right code
if it's c# you've got a windows stack, if it's PHP you've got a *nix stack
on and on
 
12:18 AM
@Zypher GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! IT'S FIXED
 
haha
no no no the good news has to be bad news, that's the whole joke :-D
 
@Zypher well my grammarz hits teh floorz, thatz bad?
 
ye yes tis bad
 
/Me hates Zabbix very much, if only Opsview would work right
 
@Jacob what doesn't opsview do?
or you can just run Nagios :-D
 
12:24 AM
@Zypher the web UI SUCKZOrZ
anyhow
On CentOS it doesn't run because they hate RHEL...
On ubuntu it just says opps it has dependancies no dice; but the manual says no worries it'll install those
 
ha
install form source .. it's good for ya
 
@Zypher Hell NO! it has like 900000000000000000000 dependancies to install
 
haha like i said good for you :)
in MY day we didn't have package managers, and the onese we did trashed the system. we compiled from source and LIKED IT
:-D
 
@ircmaxell IIRC, there is an option to remove config files when uninstalling a package.
 
true but I'm not working/getting paid so easiest method wins; if I was working/getting paid I'd do what it takes...
 
12:48 AM
 
@TimStone AWE.....SOME.....
 
1:11 AM
fu amtrak
while your stopped we'll just go ahead and zip a second train by
on a 4 track wide section
 
@Zypher atleast you have your lappy; how long is the battery life?
 
got an hour ten left
normally get about 3.5-4 hours out of it while running the screen bright and the 3g card
i can streach it to about 5 1/2 if i turn down the brightness and not use any radios
 
@Zypher My MBPro will do 5 full bright; 7 if I run dark
AMtrak needs power ports
 
not on amtrak
which is why i'm mad :)
oh yea if you sit in the right spot you can snag a power port
although i don't trust the power ocmming out of it
 
LOL how much longer is your ride
 
1:14 AM
i should be gettin on the train 5 mins ago ... grrr
probaly another 10-20 after they let us move
 
@Zypher HOLD TEH PHONEZ your not even on it?
 
no i'm on the NJTransit train they stopped to let amtrak trains zip past us
 
@Zypher so you can get on the other one?
 
still not sure why we had to stop when there are two tracks each way though
haha nah
 
@Zypher FOR THE LULZ
 
1:15 AM
@Zypher It's a Jersey thing.
 
o jebus fucking christ
 
@RebeccaChernoff Its FOR TEH LULZ... GET IT RIGHT!!!!!
 
now they moved the switch for amtrak and CANT GET IT BACK
 
@Zypher Better find a power point
 
oh i've got one
although it's probably a i dunno 30 min walk
to my car from here
maybe an hour
 
1:17 AM
@Zypher So WTF are you on battery?
 
...
 
You may or may not get mugged along the way.
 
@Jacob spotty power
it's run off the risers
and honestly don't want to risk my battery unless i have to
 
@TimStone Zyphers one hell'va dude no one would mess with him
 
oh JOY we get to go backwards
grr
 
1:18 AM
so...now taking bets on when @Zypher gets home.
 
i need my shotgun
 
@Zypher Thats why we insurance for these things... how else would I feel safe bring a MBPro to a American Public high school
@RebeccaChernoff 10 bucks on 1AM EST or later please
 
yes, but if it fried i'd then be stuck on a train that is going th wrong way without a laptop
 
I'm going to guess this adventure will add an additional 27 minutes to his trip.
 
@Zypher Well your battery would be drained anyway?
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1:20 AM
@Jacob duly noted!
 
Migrate to WebApps?
 
I don't trust @RebeccaChernoff to take my bet though, because I found out she already tricked me earlier.
 
o:
I did?
 
@Jacob yes, but i have an hour till i have to worry about that :)
@TimStone you let @RebeccaChernoff trick you... tsk tsk
 
@RebeccaChernoff I was sitting here and went "Oh snap, I bet she scheduled the WordPress THC, better get working on that script..." and then I clicked through to find there wasn't going to be one, heh.
 
1:21 AM
haha
 
@Zypher I know, what have I become?!
 
rough week at work?
 
@Zypher Why do you live so far from work; move or telecommute much?
 
@Zypher I've actually been slacking a bit, in what I'll refer to as an "extended birthday break"
Though I've used most of that time to rearrange my room which... looks around ...could be going better than it is.
 
1:23 AM
I need money to turn my room into a NOC
 
o: Happy birthday?
 
that'd be AWE...SOME
 
@RebeccaChernoff Thanks? :o
I'm beginning to think that I have too many things in one room...But that probably won't stop me from installing the extra circuit for my mini fridge.
 
@jacob long story moving in a few weeks
and no i commute about 90% of the days
 
@Zypher Are you moving before or after the April 6th meetup? :P
 
1:26 AM
@TimStone hmm hangover mabe?
 
(which I've managed to schedule even more stuff to conflict with)
 
haha, unknown at this time
hahaha
although ill probably be in nyc at the time of the meetup
 
Meetup \o/
 
which is not at 55 broadway so i will be there :)
 
@Zypher Unfortunately not, I sat at home playing games I think.
 
1:26 AM
@Zypher oy
 
hmm damn i'm outta ideas then
 
I'm going to claim temporary insanity.
@RebeccaChernoff \o/
 
fair enough
 
Maybe I'll just move the meetup to my university, problem solved.
 
Send me the votez.
 
1:28 AM
loads vote gun
 
UGHH I want to work for a company for justification to turn my room into a NOC with like 3 monitors on the walls... Otherwise I just start monitoring SE so lights appear
@TimStone loads bigger vote gunz
 
^_^
 
That just sounds dangerous.
 
@TimStone let me run my danger equation
X+Y= Danger
X is current danger
Y is added
.00+.01=.01 Danger
:P
 
Speaking of my birthday several minutes ago...I should have some more cake.
 
1:35 AM
UGHHH I need an internship somewhere before I go mentally insane; No @Zypher this isn't a plead for one from SE; :|
 
lol
i need a portable printer ... we just pulled up next to the train behind us
want to print a sign that says "OH HAI UR LIFE SUX TWO"
 
@Zypher just hold up a your lappy
 
meh
 
you forgot the !?!?!? on the end
 
1:38 AM
The best thing about cake is probably the fact that it's delicious.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Mobile? yeah right!? thats not mobile
 
hrm don't tempt me
 
@RebeccaChernoff And it's on sale, how convenient.
 
ooo i can haz cake?
 
@Zypher No you can't haz recon
 
1:39 AM
Cake all around!
 
@Zypher $90 off! Free shipping!
 
woohoooo
 
@Zypher I can see it now... "HEY... FUCK YOU AMTRAK... then "OH HAI UR LIFE SUX TWO""
 
haha
 
@RebeccaChernoff I need to do a study on woman and this thing called a "sale"
 
1:41 AM
?
 
@Zypher Had I known meeting new people was as easy as a form letter, I would have been all over that ages ago.
 
Hypothesis : Woman buy things simply because they are on "sale"
 
haha
woohoo FORWARD
of course we had to go one station back .. but you know it's all good
grumbles
 
@Jacob make sure that you take notice that I did not notice it was on sale until after @TimStone pointed it out.
 
@Zypher "Unfortunately, @Zypher then realized that he had been sitting in rear-facing seats the entire trip"
 
1:42 AM
LOL
 
lol
 
sounds about like him (;
 
nope forward facing all the way today
 
@RebeccaChernoff noted; results unchanged
@Zypher Sexual euphemism much?
 
@Zypher Don't take that abuse! IP ban!
 
1:44 AM
damnit was trying really really hard to keep this convo clean
 
@TimStone I have a /28 of IPs... Do I need to rotate?
 
i spent a good 5 mins figuring out the best way to make a really horrible dirty joke
and had to stop myself
 
@Jacob pfft /28 we've blocked whole /16's before
 
Well, in @RebeccaChernoff's case, she's on Uverse, so she's lucky she has a connection at all. I don't think he has to worry about her jumping around much.
 
1:46 AM
wait, what about me?
Oh, you meant ip ban me?
 
@Zypher I'll make a phone call and switch, right now I am on their SB /16 I can switch to their transit block?
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yeah, the timing was off.
 
haha
 
@RebeccaChernoff You have crappyverse I'm so sorry...
 
1:47 AM
@TimStone already done that
it wasn't as entertaining as i thought
 
:D
 
@Zypher OHHH WAIT YOU CAN't block my /16 because sysadmin is on that resi block too :P
 
I simply moved to being annoying elsewhere (;
 
meh he can email his /32
:)
 
1:48 AM
@RebeccaChernoff So whats your capp on junkkyverse?
@Zypher DHCP :P
 
@RebeccaChernoff You should annoy someone about not fixing my StackApps bug!
 
@TimStone what's going on with stackApps?
 
It changes faster than Josh changes his name
 
are you on GAE?
 
@Zypher No, no, it's like the most minor, isolated UI bug, hahah.
 
1:49 AM
oh ... well then i won't tell you i'm already on it
 
@Jacob I haven't seen anything in my account about a cap.
 
@RebeccaChernoff they don't TELL you about the cap
sheesh
 
@TimStone Weren't you asking Josh(unknown what ever the hell this week) for hosting for you SE apps?
@RebeccaChernoff DO YOU NOT READ ANY TECH BLOGS?!?
 
@Jacob he can only change it every 30 days
i should force him back to josh
 
Not I, I'm well-covered in that respect. :)
 
1:51 AM
just for s'n'g
 
@TimStone Yeah basically, I offer FOSS projects free hosting because I have WAYYY to much server power for my useage
 
@NickCraver Damn man, do you ever stop working? You're a machine ;)
@Zypher Hahah
 
@Jacob I know it's coming, but last I read there was going to be a section added to the online account to show you current usage and tell you what the cap was?
 
@Zypher SNG?
 
@NickCraver will stop working when i take down his build server
@Jacob Shits N Giggles
 
1:53 AM
@Zypher You don't take down my stuff :P
 
@Zypher Hopefully someone will remember to come unlock him from his chains then.
 
haha
 
So let's see here, ip ban me...take away @NickCraver's build server...@Zypher is on a roll here.
 
dind't you see NJTransit just screeewwed me over
 
I'd task that to @RebeccaChernoff, but she's still in the process of teleporting to HQ to check on the availability of stickers. :P
 
1:54 AM
i should be at home rebooting servers by now
 
He demands misdirected revenge!
 
@RebeccaChernoff Its ok I have access to atleast 5 FiOS accounts so ~150 Mbits of DDoS goodness?
 
@Jacob meh ...
 
So @Zypher will be very much dead in the water
 
so what are the caps gonna be? is that announced?
 
1:55 AM
@RebeccaChernoff no ... it's when ever you "use too much"
they've been there for a while
@Jacob we load test for ddos by doing it to ourselves locally over a 1G connection to the servers
 
@RebeccaChernoff I think you get 180GB
@Zypher Did I say servers?
 
dunno what else you'd ddos
 
Your 3G or house internet isn't that good
 
meh 3G == dhcp with like a 10 second lease time
house == call friend in comcast noc
:-P
 
@Zypher I'll get a new IP block from VZ NOC :P
I'd lose
Alernate to plan B
 
1:59 AM
haha
 
DDos @RebeccaChernoff?
 
@RebeccaChernoff That be too evil; it suck up your cap
 
No, we need her here to supply a steady stream of "oys", lest the room implode.
 

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