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12:00 AM
Anyone know why SO has a maintenance announcement up?
 
Ok, cool.
 
I just found out about this contest...
 
No way chat's gonna be up. I won't believe it 'til I see it.
 
12:07 AM
I'm mulling an entry...
Is there a use for another iOS app for StackExchange?
And what happened to a write capable API?
 
@Moshe There wasn't one
 
I know, but there was talk of it being a 2.0 feature.
Well... I'm still thinking about it.
What's new in the 2.0 API?
I decided to wait out the outage by Googling. Guess what my first results are? StackOverflow.
 
12:48 AM
@NineShogsShogging I saw that, but where's the change log?
 
1:00 AM
0
Q: Why is 2 /// 2 is 2 in Javascript?

Tri VuongDoes anyone know why 2 /// 2 is 2 in Javascript? What is this behavior called? Is it documented somewhere? Thanks.

...
 
1:17 AM
@Moshe No changelog doc, but Kevin sez: The big one is auth
 
2:02 AM
@NineShogsShogging Ah, that sounds like what I was remembering.
@TimStone Heh, not gonna lie, completely spaced out at the fact that it's a comment.
 
 
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2:48 PM
RAWR!
 
GZIP!
 
3:23 PM
COFFEE!
 
3:39 PM
User: Everything is being really slow.
Me: ...everything?
User: Yes. Can you reboot everything?
Me: *inward sigh* ...yes? I mean I -
User: Ok. Let me know when you're done.
 
Make sure you reboot everything three times.
 
Hahahaha, I haven't thought about that in a while. That's from thewebsiteisdown.com, right?
 
3:55 PM
Yeah, something like that. I haven't seen it in ages though.
 
Do we have an official reason why badges are different in meta for site-specific (not MSO) metas?
 
What do you mean?
 
4:19 PM
You earn badges separately on meta sites from the "normal sites", despite keeping the same rep. So for instance on UX.SE I can review 1000 entries and get the reviewer badge but it's not there on Meta
I'm not really sure why meta participation is separated out in that regard
especially since a couple badges require meta interaction
 
I think it makes sense that people are rewarded for participating in maintaining their communities. The reputation is inherited from the parent site to make the barrier to entry less, and there are badges on the main site that relate to meta participation to clue people into the fact that meta exists.
That said, I'm not sure that anyone's really asked that question before for there to be an official answer on it...Lemme check.
 
To a degree it seems to help show who actually uses Meta on Meta because they'll have a couple badges, but for the most part people have 1-10 bronze badges and nothing else regardless of how much they use meta, due to the low volume of content
Badges requiring more than 5 votes, large volumes of edits ect are near impossible
 
4:37 PM
Gaming's meta seems fairly alright in that regard, 239/128 Nice Answer/Question badges awarded, 18/13 Good Answer/Question badges awarded. I'd believe that other per-site metas aren't nearly that active, though. It also pales in comparison to the actual site, or MSO, but I think that by itself is OK.
Heh, there are some badges that are actually impossible though, hrm..
 
oh yeah, mortarboard at the least
 
Well, the bounty-related badges
 
and many extremely impractical (100 upvotes ect)
Didn't even notice we couldn't bounty on Metas
Plus it's just sort of weird...your rep is the same but your badges aren't; normally rep is the instant image of how much/well someone uses a site, on meta it's suddenly the badges that give a rough estimation of how much a user uses the meta site
 
Aye. The suggested edit related badges are also present on per-site metas.
That's true, but I don't really see a good way around that. Splitting the reputation would make it much harder for people to participate in their metas, and combining the badges would take away any form of reward they might get for doing so.
 
there's still the meta participation badges. IMO if you added some more meta badges (for upvotes on answers on meta ect) it would give a lot more reason, plus suddenly badges earned on meta show up on the real site
meta doesn't feel quite "real" in the standard gamification because of the no rep + almost no badge-crossover
 
4:48 PM
Fair point.
I'm not able to find an example of someone having asked about this before, so either it's something no one's brought up or my search skills are failing me today...Let's pester @PopularDemand to see if he has any insight.
 
I think it's always a good idea to pester @PopularDemand.
 
@TimStone you misspelled @GraceNote. @jadarnel27 you misspelled @RebeccaChernoff.
 
My mistake =)
 
Hi @RebeccaChernoff! Long time no talk!
 
4:55 PM
(:
 
Notes that anytime I need to pester someone, end it with @RebeccaChernoff because PopularDemand told me to
;-)
 
this would be a bad idea...
 
@TimStone I didn't find anything either
 
I suppose I should actually start looking for whatever it was I was supposedly pestered about. What do you guys need, the "official reason why badges are different" on per-site metas?
 
Might be worth asking about. I doubt at this point they're inclined to change, but if you could get a more official explanation from it it'd be nice. Or, we can just harass @RebeccaChernoff. That's always a good idea.
 
4:59 PM
@PopularDemand Pretty much what I was wondering
Was going to ask on MSO but usually questions like that have been asked to death
When I found nothing I assumed I was searching wrong
 
I'm not seeing one.
 
I'll ask
 
Hey moderator peoples, do you type in the text that displays when you lock a post? Or is that static?
 
@jadarnel27 I believe they pick from a list of canned explanations.
 
Ah, that makes sense; it would be consistent with most other things like that. Thanks.
 
5:13 PM
@jadarnel27 Screenshot at this question about a typo in a particular canned explanation. Better screenshot at this question (thanks AnnaLear!).
 
@PopularDemand Ha! Thanks for finding those. Confirm'ddd.
 
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Q: Why are badges on per-site-metas separate?

Ben BrockaBadges earned on per-site-meta are separate from the main site, but reputation is carried over from the main site (because you don't earn any on Meta). I perfectly understand keeping the rep the way it is (meta votes are too subjective to integrate them with rep) but the badge split seems odd t...

 
Great question, +1. I'm interested to see the discussion on that.
@PopularDemand This seems like a good opportunity for "productive discussion about how the network functions or some insight on how the system could be improved.", eh? =)
 
@jadarnel27 I was thinking more of questions like this one.
 
6:08 PM
@PopularDemand Ah yes, that is a great one. I was going to +1 it as well, then realized I already had.
It doesn't seem to have garnered much (visible) attention from the people in charge, oddly enough.
 
 
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7:30 PM
Behold the necromancy:
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Q: What can Stack Overflow do to persuade female programmers to participate more?

lkesslerI know a lot of female programmers, and I know there are a good number of them out there. But I don't recall ever having one of my questions answered by, nor have I ever answered a question by a female programmer here at Stack Overflow. Now I mostly deal in the Delphi tag, and that may mak...

 
I've been keeping an eye on that; one more new answer and I was going to protect it.
Also, hey, oneboxing CW posts still shows the original author's avatar.
 
what brought it back up? I initially thought maybe it was bountied or something but it wasn't
 
Someone edited it seven hours ago. Edit comment: "(its = possessive, it's = 'it is' or 'it has'.) Used the official names of sites -see e.g. stackoverflow.com/legal/trademark-guidance, 'Proper Use of the Stack Overflow and Stack Exchange Name'."
Woo! I haven't had a star hat trick in months!
 
claps
 
@PopularDemand And then someone took it upon themselves to post a really ignorant answer
 
7:45 PM
@PopularDemand ohhh yeah, I saw that too
I still want that damn "old post" icon
made a couple comments on months-old Sci Fi meta posts today, from before the site even graduated
 
Bonus points if you know which ones they missed :P
 
oh pick me, pick me!
 
webmasters
onstartups?
lego, biology
 
They did mention the Lego site
Or sorry, the Blocks site.
 
I wonder how many I can name...hrm
 
7:53 PM
I will believe you
I'm pretty sure they forgot the mother ship
 
(Well, they called it the Lego site, but that ended up being trouble right? :P)
 
did they mention dba?
 
Nope
 
yes
stop naming sites!
I'm writing down a list. (;
 
Hahah
I think they missed at least one other that I can think of off the top of my head, but I didn't think it should be its own site anyway, so I'm alright with that. :P
 
7:55 PM
I'm stopping. Commercial break is over anyway; back to takes of sunglasses the sunshine state. mirrors.rit.edu/instantCSI
 
Hahahah. :D
 
Hahahaha, that is great.
 
@balpha Takes off sunglasses? Are you one of the "been living in the United States almost long enough to sound American" guys from Family Guy?
 
I'm getting proposals mixed up with sites, oy.
 
You can list those too for extra credit
 
7:57 PM
haha
someone tell me how many sites total we have...gimme a target number here (;
 
List ALL the sites!
 
Wow, either way, thanks for the new "your editing window is almost up" warning, @balpha!
 
@RebeccaChernoff /sites says 76
 
@PopularDemand No, I'm the German rucksack tourist from the Simpsons who explains to the americans what all they're doing wrong
@PopularDemand that's not new at all
 
so 78? thought we had hit 80.
 
8:00 PM
@balpha Just play along, he might give you cookies
 
I don't edit enough to run into it. It's new to me.
Hm, the only German tourist reference I can think of is from Conan. Ah well, whatever.
 
ah but we shut down a couple, that's why. do I get points for listing those? (:
 
changeset:   3892:6792574f6eeb
user:        balpha
date:        Wed Jun 01 11:32:57 2011 +0200
summary:     show a warning if the end of the message editing timeframe approaches
 
@RebeccaChernoff I'm feeling generous, so sure, why not?
 
@balpha Well then, have some seven-month-old cookies.
 
8:03 PM
Oh, did I hear right that UX is graduating soon?
 
dammit, I'm getting stuck now. keep thinking of one and then seeing I've already written it down.
 
@BenBrocka Who cares? The only date that matters is the one when Jin puts up the non-Sketchy layout.
Priorities, man!
 
We've had that for months, now we want to be in the list at the bottom of SO
Then....the world!
Also custom "off topic" suggestions
 
I can't get past 75 ):
 
Pretty close!
 
8:15 PM
not close enough ):
 
Depends on which ones you missed
Arguably the graduated sites are the most important, since the betas could technically not end up being sites, but.
 
well if I knew which ones I missed, I'd know to include them on my list. |:
how many graduated sites are there?
 
Hmm
 
area51 launched tab (:
I'd look, but that'd be cheating!
 
Ah, doh
27 launched from Area 51
 
8:18 PM
27 on the launched tab.
...jinx!
 
+5, +1 I think?
Well, +3/4/5 depending on what you include
 
27? shit.
2
 
Miss Chernoff! Language!
5
 
I was so sure I'd be able to name them all. ):
and I don't want to look to see what I've missed. As long as I don't...I can still "win" heh.
oh wait, I didn't mark one as graduated, but I have it on my list, sec.
Bleh, I have 26 graduated. |:
 
@RebeccaChernoff Relax =)
 
8:22 PM
can't! lol
 
Excluding the other "real" sites that didn't go through Area 51, yeah?
 
the 5 of them, aye. 26 besides those.
 
Hmm.
 
Hullo, awesome day.
Meeting with client.
Went well.
Rolled a demo of a feature in 15 minutes, live.
Was really cool.
\O/
Ok, have a great weekend people, seeyall after the break.
 
AHA 27 graduated sites >_<
 
8:27 PM
Which one did you forget? :P
 
so I have...24+24+25+3 = 76. so I'm still missing 2 betas? |:
 
Seems so.
 
well dammit ):
name a beta! oy
 
Hahah
@TimStone Oh, this wasn't +1, that site is considered a beta
 
\o/
I GOT IT
 
8:31 PM
\o/
 
err, 1 at least |:
 
Oh
 
lol
bleh, that's stupid.
the one I was missing was one I thought I'd written down.
 
Ah ha
 
8:33 PM
24+24+25+5
what's the site where you can create these things so that people can go fill them in?
 
@RebeccaChernoff What do you want filled in?
 
You know, that site where you do things?
I like that site.
 
Hey, it's @BenBrocka!
I've heard your name before, not sure where. (APress Ruby book, somewhere in the ruby community, maybe?) Then I saw it on UX.SE.
 
you know >_< that site where you pull it up and it's like "name all 50 states" and then you start typing them in and it times you and stuff |:
or, name disney movies
or random crap like that
 
8:35 PM
15 mins ago, by Popular Demand
Miss Chernoff! Language!
:P
 
Hey, it's @Moshe! ...I dunno, Javascript, DBA, SO? I'm usually in UX
 
harumph
 
@BenBrocka Heh, ok. But the name rings a bell from somewhere else, not sure where...
 
@RebeccaChernoff I don't, because I always use my time productively.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Apologies.
 
8:36 PM
...I struggled to type that out with a straight face.
3
 
sporcle
 
@Moshe I got a twitter, don't use my real name too much elsewhere, just professional places
 
@BenBrocka I know I've seen it before. I used to follow A List Apart and the web standards community. I have about 20-30 programming books. Are you mentioned in any books?
Well, I'm going to let it rest, but, nice to e-meet you.
 
@Moshe I'm honored, but not quite yet, just got my first job 8 months ago =p
 
Heh, ok. Best of luck!
I gotta head out now. Shabbat is soon.
Have a good one folks.
 
8:41 PM
See ya.
 
bye
 
This is tough!
 
@RebeccaChernoff Hahahah
What if you put the names in differently? :P
 
> Can you name the Stack Exchange Sites (Domains)?
 
Ahh.
That's even more difficult!
 
though, I didn't include the (\.stackexchange)?\.com part of course
 
9:23 PM
@RebeccaChernoff 47/79. Epic Fail.
Hahaha, I missed "MetaStackOverflow"
 
9:35 PM
Argh, can't figure out what the domain would be for one of the sites |:
 
which site?
 
The Signal Processing (?) beta
 
I think meta was the only one I had to fudge
ah (:
 
I've never been to the site, so :P
Hmm, only at 56 anyway, and only six and a half minutes left.
....Almost forgot programmers. Heh
Ahh, it must be DSP.
I got 60/78, somehow forgetting a few sites that should have been super easy. |:
 
9:45 PM
Although there's one I have no idea what it is...
 
Well, that was fun.
 
10:01 PM
wassup ya'll
 

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