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5:07 PM

Somebody needs to break out some greasemonkey jquery magic and unbreak the envelope/SE button notifications before I stab something

what's broken about it?

that checking one doesn't clear the other?

They overlap and you need to clear up both.

However, they don't overlap completely.

that is kind of annoying, i agree.

@MichaelMrozek, here ya go

don't know if I care enough to try and fix it.

5:08 PM

$("span[class^=envelope]").css("display","none")

They overlap with each other and with viewing the page. I check an old post and see a comment on it, and then an hour later I get the envelope, and then four hours later suddenly the SE button wants to let me know about it

@rchern Oh, I already did .hide() on the SE button

The StackExchange™ RedditorsHomesickening PreventionEnvelope™ also notifies about favorite changes (meh), the StachExchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™ also notifies about other sites but with teeny short StackExchange™ NotRepresentative StartExcerpts™

I'm almost positive the SE button is repeating things it's already told me too, but it's hard to tell since it's already the third time I've gotten that information

I'm going to start keeping track

Plus the SE button alerts me about when I was pinged in chat, which has yet to be useful because I'm already in chat and saw it when it happened

@MichaelMrozek I've found your bug: you're trying to use the MultiCollider.

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Q: How new Stack Exchanges opening ?

I don't know how new Stack Exchanges are opening. I found some new SE very useless while there are many different and important subjects. I strongly suggest new SE about psychology. Also i found many question which is related to this category.Anyway... How new SE sites open up ? Is there a place...

feature-request stackexchange

You don't just use the MultiColler, you blend with it.

@PopularDemand how is xchange forme? how is xchange forme? how sites get fondue?

5:14 PM

I can't stand uneditable posts. It's one thing if they're just "qufas;iofjaw3e"-style noise, but this OP actually wants something and just isn't expressing what it is. I just want to help!

@radp I was thinking almost the same thing when I saw that question.

@radp mmm..fondue

Uneditable?

Feature request: /closeMostRecentOneboxedQuestion (could just be /close for short)

How so?

5:21 PM

@rchern OP's intent is undiscernable. See my latest comment.

@PopularDemand erm, not so sure

> Honestly Psychology and Psychiatry category is so scientic against what i wanted.I am looking others

He doesn't like the formula of that proposal and wants to make an alternative

@radp That's merely one instance. I think he's trying to address a larger problem.

@PopularDemand, seems like the op is saying this.

> How do new Stack Exchange sites get created? I've noticed new Stack Exchange sites and I'm curious how they get created. Is there a process for new sites? Some of the new ones do not seem very useful to me, but I think that a psychology one would be very useful. Is there a way to propose this?

Four votes to close as dupe, and each one is of a different question. Who wants to be The Deciderer?

(Or find a fifth dupe, and be The Indeciderer?)

@PopularDemand I'm just going to find a fifth duplicate

(link?)

5:32 PM

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Q: Save or Bookmark favorite questions in Stack Overflow

Often I refer to some questions on Stack Overflow and want some way to remember them instead of going through the list and searching them via tags. I think it would be great if a user could save or bookmark favorite questions and when these would be displayed in the user's page! Or is there alr...

feature-request favorites

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Q: Is there a way I can track a particular question in stackoverflow

Sometimes I come across questions that are interesting and I would like to track them for new answers/updates. Is there a way/setting to do this.

LOL, I'm loving the result :D

@radp Well done, sir.

Okay, that OP replied to my comment and I'm still confused.

> @Popular Demand, yes none-scientific psychology means questions are related human problems, not about psychology science subjects.

All the psychology without the burden of science or factual accuracy!

Genious.

I think he is talking about clinical psychology vs social psychology

Every time you clean a question up, there are five more that need to be cleaned up....

5:44 PM

That's why I don't clean questions up to begin with!!

Fartsquare: the next frontier in social networking http://bit.ly/92kL7o via @iA

Tweeted by splattne on October 25, 2010 at 5:42 PM

> the modern narcist is able to share each and every step he takes, literally.

broken link

I quite like that line

@rchern Lies

the bit.ly link takes me to vimeo.com/16095321

> Oops! This link appears to be broken.

5:47 PM

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@rchern Me too, except for the error message part

@balpha If Popular doesn't make that his new account, I might

BTW, Jeff's blog is the first google hit for "works on my machine". That oughta tell us something.

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status-bydesign

google-bomb

5:48 PM

@MarkC you wouldn't be the first

Naw, c'mon

On SO or Meta?

Geoffrey Zheng, New York

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feature-request discussion stackoverflow status-completed mobile hyperlinks reputation

Thief!

But I meant as an account name, too!

Just like yours

@PopularDemand How did you find that? Or was that from memory?

I have a serious feature request:

(Full disclosure: I totally would have done the same thing if I'd considered it, and the thought of posting an image didn't put me off.)

> and the thought of posting an image didn't put me off.

What does that part mean?

The feature request: Could you consider showing a small (desaturated, time-fading?) box with "This question has been added to your favorites", for users with e.g. <100 rep?

Or by low number of favorites, however it would make the most sense

5:54 PM

When you click the star you mean? That seems redundant

Feature requests belong on the main site

On Meta or SO? I'm just discussing it here

Pour le feedback

on meta

@MichaelMrozek Yes, it seems redundant, but new users may have no idea (see the 2 or more questions linked above)

Even YouTube does it, and it's a nice little confirmation (and less abstract) if it's done right.

@MarkC How would that help them to discover that the star favorites in the first place? The alert only shows up after you clicked the star, and if you clicked it you probably know what it's for

5:58 PM

A curious user will probably click it, but perhaps the other half of the solution would be a little "Click here to favorite" or such for new users with low/no favorites

That's why I brought it up here first, to get feedback and a rough idea

There's also a mouseover that explains what it does; generally they're not fans of adding stuff like that to the page itself

Yes, I wrote a comment to that effect

But it should be obvious that they never saw the mouseover, or they wouldn't be posting the question

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Why did my math class not have animated gifs... it can explain things so clearly.

6:17 PM

@Fosco +1 for that. Maths need not be dry if taught visually

Gasp! I didn't know about this:

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A: Do 10k users get to read deleted comments?

Neither 10k+ users nor ♦ moderators can read deleted comments, so a deleted comment is as good as gone. The comments, do, however, still exist in the database and Jeff can see who deleted them should there be an issue.

Yeah, I knew about 10k users not getting to read deleted comments

I was one ._.

later

@Fosco Slow day at work, huh?

very (my fault tho.. just not in the mood)

6:34 PM

No one wants to weigh in on this?

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Q: HTTP session hijacking vulnerability on Stack Overflow

Firesheep was released yesterday, a Firefox extension that makes it very easy to do HTTP session hijacking for users of insecure websites. It looks like Stack Overflow (and company) doesn't use SSL for the whole site (or allow an option to do so). Does that make it vulnerable to session hijacking...

discussion feature-request firefox security security-hole

... not a real security hole, in my opinion.

6:56 PM

SSL on everything ... that would be an expensive proposition ... very expensive

@Zypher But without it, how will I know if that answer was really posted by Jon Skeet? He might have just left his computer unlocked while he went to grab a coffee!

oh don't worry jon skeet uses ssl you're good

@Zypher cue the "when SSL gets compromised, it asks Jon Skeet for help" jokes

@PopularDemand if a post mentions Jon's love for male genitalia you'll know it was a coworker :P

heh

7:02 PM

Moving right along, how's the weather where yinz are today?

whats the link to get all of your SO rep stats? the journal of everything with counters for rep cap, etc.. thx in advance :p

what stats?

stackoverflow.com/reputation

or if you've got my updated userscript, click the audit link next to your rep (;

@rchern thank you

the rep cap badges are rough!.. 50 days for a silver badge, 150 days for gold... im at 9

@Fosco They are kinda the ultimate thing. You realize it's not possible to achieve Legendary without earning 30k rep, unless you get massively downvoted/spamflagged or award a lot of bounties?

Indeed - I've got 30K (just) but I'm only half way to Epic

7:15 PM

yup.. im not whining, just stating a fact :)

i have hit the rep cap once on SO hehe

yesterday!

(;

Epic should be gold and legendary should be a platinum or unicorn badge or something.

@Fosco Yeah, I know. Sorry if that looked patronizing, it wasn't meant to be; I was sharing the "let's be in awe of Legendary people" moment.

I've found Reddit, and my productivity has been shot to fucking hell. =\

@sepp2k Heh. Feature request: when you achieve Legendary, Jeff and Joel personally cook you a batch of waffles and ship them next-day air.

7:20 PM

@PopularDemand If you propose that, I'll upvote.

@sepp2k You can have it if you want.

haha

@sepp2k (Be sure to request that they use same-day pegasus unicorn shipping in areas where that's available.)

7:55 PM

Hello

@Chacha102 Hey there!

Donde esta la bibliotecca?

Spanish? Portuguese?

@ChrisF Trobedian.

8:11 PM

@Chacha102 Misspelled "biblioteca", methinks.

@mmyers That might be why he's looking for it. :P

@TimStone instantrimshot.com

The mere thought of high school Spanish gives me chills.

8:40 PM

Are the SE sites really slow for anyone else right now?

Can anyone even see this message?

@PopularDemand I see it

@BryanDenny Thanks.

@PopularDemand They seem alright to me.

@TimStone Maybe it's just me then. Meh. Time to head out anyways.

Thanks for letting me know I wasn't crazy, at least.

I've been distracted playing Sim City though, so it's possible I missed any lag, heh.

8:46 PM

chats are still in OR while the sites are in NY now, so i wouldn't expect issues on both at the same time

other than that they seem fine

and pinging WA gives me the 53ms ping i've gotten from the NY DC

My connection's playing up, but then it has been for quite a while. Stack Overflow et al seem to be the only sites that are affected.

1 hour later…

10:03 PM

Is SE losing it, any details?

i'm having some connection issues myself. i'm in DC

I'm perfectly fine. Just answered a question, ain't seen no connection problem here.

@YiJiang were you on SO or a SE site?

I am seeing problems with Programmer.SE at the moment

@Jin The answer was on SO, although I was surfing SE sites too

10:06 PM

hmm, SO has issues too

Looks like it's slowly coming back one site at a time.

teething problems with the new datacentre I suppose

all looks good again now

1 hour later…

11:13 PM

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Q: Will disabling hyperthreading improve performance on our SQL Server install

Related to: Current wisdom on SQL Server and Hyperthreading Recently we upgraded our Windows 2008 R2 database server from an X5470 to a X5560. The theory is both CPUs have very similar performance, if anything the X5560 is slightly faster. However, SQL Server 2008 R2 performance has been prett...

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