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Michael Mrozek

1:48 AM

Feature request: Add .svg as an image extension

Hello71

2:19 AM

Not very many browsers support that natively, so that's more than just an allow, it's thumbnail generation as well.

Michael Mrozek

2:34 AM

@Hello71 Are you sure? I know nothing about it, but Wikipedia says "All major modern web browsers except Microsoft Internet Explorer (IE), support and render SVG markup directly"

Hello71

2:51 AM

@MichaelMrozek: Completely unsure.

Michael Mrozek

Hmm. Well yeah, if it's not widely supported that definitely don't auto-inline it

balpha

7:09 AM

@MichaelMrozek yes, unfortunately IE is the problem here

Michael Mrozek

7:33 AM

Those words are spoken so often we should probably have an abbreviation for it

balpha

:)

in fact I'm right now doing some optimization for rooms with many many users in them

and again, this needs the most work for IE

so the loads of people don't crush the browser

@MichaelMrozek I mean, you can of course force it to be displayed as an image by prepending "!"

Benjol

@balpha, so how many of my sockpuppets do you want me to join with? :)

balpha

@Benjol no need, thanks :) I've written myself a little bot

I have a room with 350 people crazy talking right here

Benjol

I'm guessing you've turned sound notification off in there... ;)

balpha

actually not, but I've got music on right now, so not hearing it that much :)

my goal is to have that situation at least bearable on my atom netbook

which is not a problem -- except for IE

Benjol

12:48 PM

@balpha, dunno if this is you or Mark, but here's a scenario which happens to me quite often:

- write an implicit post "@balpha, dunno..." etc

- realise that it now needs to be an explicit reply

- hit up-cursor

- click on the 'reply' for the appropriate message

- 'rats!', that gives me @balpha @balpha

- edit down to ":39029," and save

- regexp doesn't like my comma, and it stays like that

balpha

first of all, his name is "Marc" :)

yeah, I see what you're saying -- not sure how to handle that, though

Benjol

@balpha, oops, yes, quick edit me before he gets back!!

balpha

no hurry, he's on vacation

devinb

3:27 PM

If I have my cursor over the "leave/switch room" icons when a new message appears in the room, the icons are displayed twice.

(!) I think. I've seen the icons duplicated before, but I can't reproduce it consistently.

rchern

You can.

Hover over the icons to show them, then click the room name to bring up the dialog, close the dialog and mouse over the icons again.

devinb

that didn't do it for me.

gimme a sec, then say something in the tavern

rchern

But don't report it as a bug, just push for this...

5

Q: Chat quick* links should be always visible

I'm wondering what the motivation is to have the quickleave and quickswitch icons hidden by default and only visible when you hover over the area. With the icons hidden until you hover above them, this means that if you are moving your mouse there with the intent to switch rooms, it feels li...

Click room name, click x, click room name, click x, click room name, click x...

devinb

well played.

I see it now.

That's a bug.

Or. a feature.

Josh

4:55 PM

Question about frozen rooms: Is there any way to un-freeze them? Specifically the PHP room. I feel it has value and would happily lurk there...

If I understand, it's frozen because it has value but has been stagnant, am I understanding that correctly?

balpha

yes

and yes, moderators can unfreeze frozen rooms

Josh

thanks @balpha!

What would you suggest I do to prove to a mod that the room has value and should be unfrozen?

Does just staying in there do any good?

balpha

I've unfrozen it

Josh

You rock @balpha! Thanks!

balpha

5:11 PM

@rchern that's quick-fixed

I'll wait for a decision on the links before I go with a real css solution

devinb

@balpha you're fixing the bugs faster than I can find flaws. You need to take more vacations. Or, y'know, actually vacation while on them.

badp

5:40 PM

Random bug report of the now

> :135895 english.stackexchange.com/questions/2105/…

becomes

:135895 english.stackexchange.com/questions/2105/…

heh, the double beautifier doesn't work across rooms

Popular Demand

Wait, what's the bug here?

badp

> :135916 cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/6371/saving-pasta-water

balpha

no, replying doesn't work across rooms

this is what I see:

badp

@balpha me too

balpha

← 11 messages moved from The Tavern (General)

so what would you expect to see?

you mean the @name?

badp

5:49 PM

yeah, although the reply arrow is visible

on my darker gray background it was harder to notice

balpha

I see your point

will think about it

badp

eh, no biggie.

balpha

expect a fix in 6-8 weeks

badp

It might be more confusing for the receiver of the reply who might be looking for the blue text.

balpha

true that

Popular Demand

5:54 PM

I knew that looked familiar:

Aug 20 at 20:55, by Popular Demand

Also, the formatting is kind of weird for a reply that consists solely of a oneboxed link. Not sure if this is by design, but it looks bad to me.

devinb

@balpha Novice. He should be expecting an estimate in 6-8 weeks.

rchern

@balpha aww, I'd rather you did those in the reverse order :p

Popular Demand

@rchern Heh.

@balpha when did you invite me to this room? I just got the notification.

balpha

one of the moved messages was yours

all message authors automatically get invited to the target room when the messages get moved

Popular Demand

I was wondering about that.

devinb

6:05 PM

@balpha What if we don't want them? Just their content.

balpha

don't want what?

Popular Demand

@devinb You can call me out by name, it's okay.

balpha

ah, the authors

gotcha

well, if it's your room they get moved to, and you've made it "read-only unless I say otherwise", and you haven't allowed them to talk, they won't get invited

SEE? WE'VE THOUGHT OF EVERYTHING! MUUAAAHAHAHA

badp

\o/

devinb

I'm once again in awe of you @balpha

badp

6:54 PM

@balpha If you check here and hover on the boxes, you'll see that the reply highlight and reply arrow colours are the same. I guess the answer is using black arrows with an alpha channel...

Wikipedia-speak

It's, well, speaking and, uh, Wikipedia.

balpha

7:06 PM

@badp aahh, I know what you mean -- you'll only say that on your own replies, though

badp

uh, not really

the scenario there is reply of reply

balpha

because the background color of your own messages is an almost identical grey

badp

@balpha That's what I complained about before :)

balpha

@badp okay, yeah -- that's an even closer grey

Josh

wow, it's tough to see the differences between these shades of gray. I agree

Popular Demand

7:49 PM

Are suspended users banned from chat as well?

Michael Mrozek

@PopularDemand I don't think directly, but they have 1 rep so they can't talk anyway

Josh

@PopularDemand If not they should be, no?

Popular Demand

@MichaelMrozek Good point, I forgot about that. And it came up in a previous discussion, too.

I was wondering about users banned on sites other than MSO, though.

Won't be an issue after chat is made site-specific, of course.

balpha

@PopularDemand yes, the suspension is imported from the parent site

Popular Demand

There's got to be something you all haven't thought of yet.

How about free waffles and bacon with every chat? Or is that already [status-planned]?

Josh

8:06 PM

@PopularDemand Where's the meta question? I will upvote

:-)

Popular Demand

@Josh That was just a reference to something balpha said two hours ago.

Josh

@PopularDemand Damn. Here I was hoping for some unicorn-shaped waffles

To get back on topic though... I see that the SuperUser and ServerFault rooms seem to show a feed from the site. How's that work? It can't be showing all questions from the sites, can it?

Can that feature be added for tags on a particular site, E.G could the PHP room show all new [php] posts from stackoverflow.com?

Popular Demand

@Josh Dunno about SU/SF, but Gaming is -- or at least, was -- set up to have all new questions pop up.

Not sure how much traffic you have to have before that becomes overwhelming.

Josh

@PopularDemand I think SU's traffic would qualify :-)

Popular Demand

@Josh Probably. I barely visit SU anymore.

Josh

8:18 PM

Is meta.stackoverflow.com the best place to request/suggest new chat features?

@PopularDemand Because the questions are too broad?

Popular Demand

@Josh Quite the opposite, actually; at one point I saw a front page that seemed to be made up entirely of questions asking about a specific model of computer or sound card or driver or whatever.

Josh

@PopularDemand Okay yeah, I know what you mean :-)

Mikey B

11:50 PM

Any plan to migrate this chat feature to serverfault? I'd LOVE to have a chat feature but for specific serverfault-ish topics (e.g. email administration, internet security, etc.)

Wikipedia-speak

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