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10:00 AM
the hover effect implies that you can click.
 
the gutter is on the left, just like in Visual Studio
 
k, just never heard it called that :)
 
and I refer to gutter as in the left arrow that pops up when hovering the message
 
> When you use IntelliTrace, the navigation gutter provides icons that you can click to navigate through your debugging session. The navigation gutter appears by default if you have set the information collection level to IntelliTrace events and call information. If you do not want to see the navigation gutter, you can disable it so that it never appears.
 
if you can hover, why not just click on the hoverable area for the same effect?
 
10:01 AM
@Spoike also useful to sometimes select & copy part of a message
 
been called that for years.
 
@Richard: yeah, but there is a difference between dragging and clicking
if you drag you haven't released the mousebutton, until you release after you moved for a bit you've made a drag selection
 
gotcha, we just always called it the menu, didn't know it had a specific term
learn something daily here :)
 
It's not the 'menu'...
 
10:02 AM
> Just in case you aren’t familiar with the terminology, the gutter is the gray vertical area just to the left of the code in the editing window and is circled in red in the picture. This area is used to provide visual indicators for breakpoints and other information that is useful or important during a debugging session.
 
gutter (n) 4. A large groove (commonly behind animals) in a barn used for the collection and removal of animal excrement.
 
oooooh
 
it's also clickable, in Visual Studio..
 
If only select and immediately drag (without button release) it gets harder to do. (This is why a disabled click on symbol -> go to definition in VS)
With Productivity Power Pack extension
 
I think the gutter is useful for indications on refactoring.
 
10:03 AM
i was still thinking of something else, my arrows for drop down at on the left for the nav menu up top, eg list of methods, properties
 
@Greg: also the margin between facing pages in a book
 
thanks for the picture
 
it has many definitions :)
 
I prefer something more +ve for this :-) Farm gutters are not so nice
 
10:04 AM
> What does the gutter refer to in book printing? Answer: The gutter is the space between the printed area and binding, also referred to as a margin.
 
The gutter in Netbeans is useful, it shows what has changed since last checkin, and you can revert changes on the gutter menu.
 
sure, that's definition 5 on en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gutter
 
the binding is in the middle so it's correct there as well -- the area to the LEFT of the text is the gutter.
 
The conversation is going down the gutter now...
 
@Wim there should be a #gutterjoke hashtag for that
 
10:05 AM
@Jeff: Unless it is on the right (reading the left of two facing pages)
Which is why it needs a name of its own
 
true
 
But correct for single sided printing in L2R languages
 
but there's no "folding books" on a computer screen, really, everything is a single "page"
and for some reason I always think of the computer page as the right hand side of an open book.. hmm. very odd.
 
Idea: what about bringing the keyboard into play
Ctrl+click a message to star it, Shift+click a message to reply. Flag stays in the menu because it's an irreversible action
 
@Spoike agreed, #gutterjoke would do nicely.
 
10:07 AM
I never really thought about this, but I guess I considered the RIGHT side of the book, the "default" side.
 
@Jeff
> very odd
not really, follows first content page is on right as is the case with bound single sided printing
 
possibly because western books are printed such that the binding is on the left when you're looking at the cover
 
wds
one thing, when a post has been starred by someone, wouldn't it be easier if I could just click the star?
 
(Nice, unlike 3d beta multiline with quote in middle now works)
@wds you can in the favourites list on RHS
 
wds
RHS?
 
10:09 AM
Right Hand Side
 
wds
oh, right
 
@wds you can click the star.. on the sidebar
 
Or Royal Horticultural Society
 
wds
so why not in posts themselves?
(if I'm looking at chat in realtime, makes no sense to move to RHS)
 
That has been suggested IIRC
 
10:10 AM
sure, let's add that too. Marc, add the ability to "add your star" within the actual chat message main window as well, in addition to the RHS.
 
cracks whip
 
wds
he's no tiger mike tho
 
@Jeff - oddly, that is where it started ;p
 
well, it should be in both places, probably
@wds read the faq for what the right hand side starred list is for, please
 
I believe there should be "star" button on the room list page, for each room
I think it would be useful to have some sort of summary page. I.e. show all starred posts in my favorite rooms on single page.
 
10:19 AM
@ilya that's a good idea too -- wait, can't you star from the rooms page already? no?
 
That summary page should also show any message that is "calling for me"
 
Scope creep!
 
> So I just hit 3K reputation; and have no motivation to hit 10K. What should I do on Stackoverflow next? (Question not marked community wiki so that you can downvote me; I don't recall getting any question go below 0).
last activity: 8 hours ago
yeah.... {question was asked 5 (!) months ago}
 
status-back-from-lunch
 
status-fancies-bacon-and-egg-roll
 
10:30 AM
@Jeff: have you decided what to do about the red [status-*] tags here?
 
people seem to like them OK
we will probably have one easter egg per chat site
that's the one for meta
 
fair enough :-)
 
status-dont-take-my-status-away
 
tsk tsk :)
 
No punctuation marks ;-)
 
10:32 AM
drat! :)
 
status-mine-was-horse-and-chips
 
CHAT IS BACK BABY!
 
Horse!?
 
status-evil-laugh
 
it's been tossed out to support LaTeX, can we do that only on the sites that support LaTeX themselves?
if it's supported at all, that is
 
10:33 AM
what?
 
Can't beat a bit of latex support.
 
The red "status" are cool and all, but what exactly is the point of them here in the chat?
 
the math equation support in chat, fairly intensive client-side
 
what would be the point of LaTeX here?!
@CraigTP the point is to be cool, isn't that enough?
 
It makes a lot more sense for chat.math, at least ;p
 
10:34 AM
@CraigTP like I said, it's the easter egg for THIS chat site. each chat site will have one easter egg unique to the parent site.
 
(still working on killing the arrow; got stuck in some thorny null/0 issues)
 
@Benjol - Touche.
 
@marc yeah only show it for explicit replies, if possible
 
@JeffAtwood - Ah.. I see... So, can we make it so SO's chat easter egg has a secret character combination that awards you badges! ;)
 
@Benjol I agree - but I've seen t requested several times, I'm with you, it should only be enabled on the math-site chats
 
10:36 AM
Any thoughts on keyboard+click shortcuts for messages? e.g. Ctrl+click a message to star/unstar, Shift+Click a message to reply.
 
@Marc, weird, Jeff's last answer to Craig references a post which is BELOW?
 
he edited it ;p
(adds sanity check...)
 
Did I ??? <checks self>
oh, you mean jeff.
 
@Marc, did you do implicit replies while I was away? (testing)
 
10:39 AM
oh, but do we see it (rollover)?, I'm not seeing it on my last @ to you
 
Yes.... investigating that.
 
@Benjol: testing
 
How about this, @Benjol
(sigh)
I wonder if one of the servers didn't deploy
 
(sorry, I'll leave you alone for a bit, and try and get some work done myself...)
 
And @Benjol again ?
 
10:43 AM
still nothing for me (with refresh)
 
@MarcGravell, so when do you plan to deploy the chat to main SO?
 
about 4 weeks, maybe a bit more
 
6 to 8!
:)
 
For the main SO I believe there should be something like "related rooms". If there are lots of people regularly visiting rooms A & B, they are probably related.
 
Not sure that would be the correct conclusion @Ilya
 
10:45 AM
People talking in C# are also talking in: .NET, VisualStudio, ReSharper
@Wim, statistically it should.
 
sounds like sub-groups are the answer here
 
I may like to talk in 'The Tavern' and in C#
 
re that; so... for just a @mention, we don't display anything different? Or still do the hover? or a separate UI?
 
Or in C# and in iPhone SDK
 
@Ilya - think about this case, I'm on in 4 question rooms clarifying the question, maybe someone else good at answering in that category is as well
the only thing they have in common is us, not that they're actually related
 
10:47 AM
Jeff which capture util did you use to get the drop shadow?
 
@ilya that might come eventually
so much hate for the arrow
 
told you he'd hate it ;p
 
@JamesM I didn't make that image I found it on the webz
I only support the arrow for EXPLICIT replies
 
@Marc, for some reason I can't answer your 54435, but I'd say still do the hover, otherwise the implicit reply is essentially invisible.
and I don't hate the arrow, but I agree with jeff, it's a visually indication that the replied-to-post is probably not the most recent
 
10:49 AM
yes, it should be exceptional
like, "hey dude, I am replying to something WAY out of your line of sight.. so heads up!"
99.9% of the time, you are replying to something I just said. that's how chat .. works ..
 
@Jeff, but what about the hover/highlight for implicit-non-arrow replies?
for or against?
 
hover, I don't care -- that kind of stuff is fine
 
So in the current state of flux for replies, the 'exceptional' arrow does what?
 
indicates someone is replying to something other than what you JUST SAID
 
And I can view the message inline?
 
10:52 AM
(@Wim, technically, it indicates they did an explicit reply, because nothing stops them from explicitly replying to the most recent message) -note that currently Mark is still working on removing the arrow for the implicit replies
 
Surely, you can work that out...if message I reply to is X number of messages ago, it should be explicit
To the user replying, it should be transparent
 
Not sure I follow you there... you're saying code could detect and turn an explicit reply into an implicit one if it's the most recent post by the poster?
 
@wim possibly -- depending on rate-of-message you could rule out the last (x) messages, or messages older than (time)
 
@Benjol Yeah, kinda
 
arrow is totally filling my rage meter. :P
> The second and more powerful function of the Rage Meter is Rage Mode. Once the bar is full you press the rage buttons as described for the Quick Kounter, and your character will become engulfed in a yellow haze. You then have a set time to attack whilst the bar is depleting; your attacks will be almost twice as powerful and will break blocks frequently. As mentioned before there are many ways of filling the meter
 
10:58 AM
it is just going up to dev.* as we speak
 
RIP arrow ;)
 
Agreed that the rate of message flow is an issue, in which case you could check if it's not the most recent AND (older than X OR Y messages 'away') - well, something along those lines anyway.
 
see, it's fun to design software! and so easy! WORK HARDER MARC!!! :)
 
@JeffAtwood - For your rage:
 
I can see a potential problem in that you can't edit the reply-ity of a message. If you get it wrong, (i.e. if the other poster sends another message while you're creating yours) there's not much you can do apart from start over (if you haven't yet sent), or delete and start over. Though admittedly I can't think of a usable alternative off-hand.
 
11:01 AM
ahh; getting a script error
there is some script error; investigating. But generally working
 
my message just disappeared! ?
 
is it possible to clear the screen?
 
oh..reloaded (again) and it's back.
 
---
@AnyModerator, you can delete my experimental room whenever you have time
 
are we back?
 
11:05 AM
What about.. relative time instead of something like 18:58.
 
@Marc, if I do the --- thing, I can't post anything afterwards, it gets 'eaten'
 
Let's just pretend I didn't kill it with a hanging null...
will do now; btw, --- only works as it's own message
@Benjol and the other was just 'cos I killed it (briefly)
 
@marc that looks good
I like that arrow means, "I'm replying to something OTHER than the last thing you said"
 
Right; I need to go and sign some papers for a car... back later
 
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this amused me
 
11:15 AM
at the moment it is explicit vs implicit, but we could also check if the explicit is their last message (and then not show). Not sure it is worth it though. They went to the trouble of doing it explicitly, etc.
 
@MarcGravell Agreed. I think the current behavior is better. It's consistent.
Explicit -> Gets arrow. Otherwise -> No arrow. Simple.
 
@marc idea, I think the explicit reply arrow would be more tolerable at the end of the text, perhaps like so? ↱
not sure, just thinking out loud
 
wds
@JeffAtwood I did
we just differ on what we find interesting
 
well, this room's topic is CHAT FEEDBACK so I am enforcing the stars as, "things actionable for chat improvement"
the stars may mean other things in other rooms
for example if the topic of the room is "hee-larious jokes" then you might star the funniest jokes.
 
so starring isn't analogous to SO where you just star stuff that you like or that's interesting to you?
 
11:19 AM
but in general, the stars SHOULD mean, "I want future visitors to see these messages as they capture the spirit of the room"
stars are relative to the room topic
 
do the star votes decay, or how does that work?
 
the spirit of the room, well.. depends on the room. this one is about work
 
wds
I must admit the first thing I starred I was just trying it out, I guess I should've undone that one. But I assumed you were talking about the second one, which was about a new feature relative to chat so... ?
I dunno, I don't see how it's not relevant
 
@Nick: it looks like they sort of decay for the order they appear in the RHS, but the votes themselves don't disappear.
 
stars decay in sort order, there is a hotness. but the stars never "go away" unless I clear them out (which I do, eventually, if you aren't starring potential chat improvements)
 
11:25 AM
@Jeff I don't like the idea of the arrow at the end of the line because it gets lost in the noise...
 
meh, I don't like replies that lack context.. takes too much work. :)
 
seems that arrow's upside down, since it comes from a chat message above it, or is that just me?
 
I'd edit your reply to say "I don't like the idea of the arrow at the end of the line because.."
so to the extent that explicit replies allow people to cheat and not include context they are bad :)
 
@Nick was thinking about the same thing
 
Done :)
 
11:26 AM
it's one thing twitter trained me on: ALWAYS include context. ALWAYS. ALWAYS. ALWAYS.
every twitter message should be 95% standalone message.
 
I use this one in comment replies on SO: ↵
 
this looks nice, not sure about the "smooth scrolling effect" - looks weird on my netbook (chrome)
 
You can always tell noobs using twitter because they tell an entire story sentence by sentence -- and every sentence is a fragmented twitter message.
 
wds
like @wilshipley
ducks
 
@Jeff - the pros tell it in reverse order, they know the feed page is backwards :)
 
11:27 AM
is this pure webapp or is it synchronized with an IRC server as well?
 
@nick I think the arrow is correct. It means this is in response to something up above the most recent message by this user.
 
it points from something below to the current message though, seems like it should point up in that case?
 
Yeah, arrow works as specified, now all that's missing is the hover for the implicit replies and (in my opinion) the automatic inclusion of @name for explicit replies
 
it is pointing up, and to the right.
@benjol I answered your meta question
 
CONTEXT! :)
 
11:29 AM
@Jeff maybe it should just point up, and not to the right. It currently points directly to the current post.
 
a little mystery is to make you work, like I had to work to answer your damn question :)
 
arrows can't point 2 directions :)
 
I have found the stateful web chat extremely useful for a distributed team
 
what about going left then pointing up, since that's what it's referring to?
 
@Jeff, at least you get paid for it :)
 
11:30 AM
and what is Stack Overflow except the WORLDS MOST AWESOME AND MOST DISTRIBUTED TEAM!??!!
Who's with me?!?! {runs screaming out of the room, nobody following}
 
I think SO chat is what google wave could have been
 
wds
Providing context is good for people joining chat later, but because this looks and acts more like an IRC/IM chat, it isn't as natural as twitter to include context in every single message.
 
@wds that's true
I really like the arrow for this "hint that I'm referring to something much earlier" role we have cast it in
 
the context of this chat is the "room" idea, but there's no corresponding concept on twitter (hashtags don't count)
 
@greg we were talking about supporting hashtags for sub-rooms, basically. but it's not a high priority.
before that, we need better "splinter off into a new room" support
 
11:33 AM
so when you see a sequence of things that have been said, you know that the participants also saw the same things
 
or as I like to call it "GET A ROOM YOU {5 PEOPLE I JUST SELECTED}!"
 
status-get-a-room
 
status-get-a-room
 
@Jeff, weird, for me your @wds comment gets a rollover, but not the @greg one..., incomplete name?
 
i should try this in Ie9
 
11:34 AM
:)
 
IE7 is so painful to support now. It really is the new IE6
 
wds
private rooms should be triggerable as a popup "Jeff Atwood thinks you should get a room! Accept/Deny?"
 
greetings from IE9
 
@wds sort of, you'd send an invite to several people to auto-join a new room
 
i'm glad they're using benchmark programs to test IE9's script engine with
because it takes a good half minute to load a chat room
 
11:36 AM
seriously?
 
yeah no kidding, can't load it in Ie9 doc mode, just freezes at loading, also text aliasing doesn't work so it's pretty ugly atm
i hope IE9 final includes all the bells and whistles, like an address bar
 
@Jeff this doesn't over
@JeffAtwood, this does, I'm guessing - yup.. I'll let you tell Marc when he gets back, if I've gone
 
yes
probably needs tweaking, not sure.
 
do you get the alert noise/a highlight when someone replies to you?
 
wds
does the same trick of collapsing spaces in @-replies work in question/answer comments? I seem to recall it didn't at first.
 
11:40 AM
should work
ok, heading to bed. have fun. be gentle with Marc
 
wds
nn
 
@JeffAtwood, test to see if it makes any difference if user has left the room (it doesn't)
 
Found a problem
While catching up, page up/down page just more than a single page -- a couple of lines are lost. (FF 3.6.latest)
Would be nice if it were a little less than a page (context), but shouldn't be skipping content.
2
 
Hi every one
 
@Richard, I'll star that one so that the team notice it, no-one's around to react to it right now, I believe, unless @waffles is awake
 
11:54 AM
shall we talk about this .. its very long , no one looking at and no vaild soultion
 
@Tree - read his last message just a few lines up :)
 
@Benjol thanks... prioritised coffee over reporting (as one should)
@Tree better to put links like that in their own message, so we get a summary in line.
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Q: Name Change Limiting can be Broken

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@Richard, you can do me a favour and star this then:
 
@richard - How to do that ?
 
@MarcGravell, implicit hover only works if you include the full @Name (@Marc won't work)
 
11:57 AM
@Nick - I am not happy with that comment
 
Done (once I fixed for the concurrent scroll :-))
 
Clarify? I was just pointing out that whom you want to speak to isn't in the room, I assume you thought he was because his name appeared on a message just a bit ago :)
 
@Richard, having said that, apparently @Richard doesn't work either, so maybe it's a bit more complicated than I thought?
 
@Tree Just include the link on its own. Some types of line are known about to chat, this includes links to SO/MSO/... Qs, As and users
 
@NickCraver, testing
 
12:00 PM
@Benjol maybe it is linked to auto-complete... as per my last message?
 
@Richard, testing
 
higlighted here
 
@Richard, weird, my name is shorter than yours, but it works, I autocompleted.
@Nick, I'm expecting this not to...
 
@Benjol your last to (to me and Nick) didn't autolink here
But others have (and that one did)
Some dependency we're not seeing?
 
Bit harsh on this answer maybe? I tried my best to tell the user that I don't really have time to do his work for him:
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A: Applying DIV/Span tag to a word by specific co-ordinates

Andy EThe only method I can think of involves wrapping every word in a span element, and then using document.elementFromPoint(x,y) to get the span element at the given location. Something like this: function highlightWordAtXY(x, y) { // Get the element containing the text var par = document.e...

 
12:03 PM
@Richard, can't work it out. I originally detected this on Jeff/JeffAtwood, so I thought it was about imcomplete @Names - as Nick/NickCraver test would seem to confirms. But that doesn't explain why you don't work
 
@Andy go easy on 'em, judging by the picture the OP is only 2
 
@AndyE'shead, you mean your comments? Looks like you already took quite a bit of time
@Richard, argh, dyou see that? @Andy works?!
 
@Nick lol. @Benjol: the original answer took me an hour and i've been following up with (mostly deleted) comments for the past 2 days
 
@Richard I wonder what happens if I link to myself
 
@Richard, nothing :)
@Andy, well you'd better hope he doesn't stalk you all the way to here :)
 
12:06 PM
So it seems, so there is some special casing.
 
@Benjol: fingers crossed :-)
 
if only we had some sort of chat system, instead of deleted comments... :)
 
@Richard, in any case you can unstar my original message for Marc as it seems to be wrong - in the analysis anyway, I think I'll just do a question on meta.
 
imo a refresh comments button would be welcome, instead of refresh the page, re-expand comments, scroll back down
 
@Nick: A GM script for that wouldn't be too difficult to throw together.
 
12:12 PM
@Andy - true, I should add it to the one I'm already running
 
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Q: Hover on implicit replies works inconsistently

BenjolThe all-new implicit replies functionality has a quirk. Hovering over an @Jeff doesn't highlight the previous message Hovering over an @JeffAtwood does. I assumed that the difference was to do with incomplete names, but here are some other examples: @Benjol (full name): works @Richard (full ...

 
love chrome, having one easily editable script for everything I want to add to a site
 
@Benjol suggest updating the Q to include link to this room where this discussion started.
 
@Richard done, good suggestion
 
@Nick: I would star that comment but @Jeff wouldn't be happy about me starring a non chat feedback question :p
 
12:19 PM
oo you sneaky answerer, completely changed your answer while I was making a fiddle :)
 
@Nick: actually, I edited it in while you were posting your answer lol
Except for the documentation excerpt, which I added afterwards
 
I make my fiddle while posting, I verify it works, then maybe add the link if I think it's helpful :)
if it's simple I tend to leave it out, depends what level the OP seems to be at with what they're working on I think
 
I usually post, then double-check my facts and edit if necessary
 
same here
 
I don't usually fiddle these sorts of answers, but +1 to yours for the working example. I was unsure of whether or not to delete mine after I saw yours but I got an upvote so I didn't :p
 
12:24 PM
i wouldn't delete a valid answer :)
 
Any SU mod, check this spam issue please: meta.superuser.com/questions/1240/…
 
hopping over to the tavern to keep this chat transcript somewhat on topic
 
@TomWij, don't know if there are any mods here, did you try in the SU room?
 
@TomWij better asking that in the SU room:
http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/100/super-user
This room is for feedback/discussion of the chat system itself
 
woohoo just got a call from the broadband engineer. After a month of hassle they're finally coming to upgrade my connection to 23mb/s down, 10mb/s up.
 
12:28 PM
@TomWij, has someone done something already? Neither of the links on your meta question work...
 
Seems someone just did... :-)
 
@Benjol looks like it (need a 10k user on SO or mod to confirm)
@TomWij rather than asking on MSO, flag the answer/comment for mod attention
 
@Richard, how'd you get the newline in the middle of your message? two spaces?
 
Shift-enter
 
tries
it - works!
 
12:32 PM
For some reason I did not see the flag link, weird... :-)
Thanks anyway, sorry for the spam here. ^^
 
@Nick: now I feel bad, my answer got accepted!
 
np... we're all learning (and working out) how this will work
 
perfectly valid answer gets accepted, SOs working IMO
the only thing that irks me about accepted answers is a lack of them, the hit and run askers
 
@Nick, @Andy, what are you guys talking about?
 
@AndyE'shead I think sometimes a 90% complete answer is a better idea, then the OP will learn more
 
12:34 PM
Yeah, but I'm always for "first complete correct answer", which was technically yours.
 
I look at SO this way, every question is ideally an excellent google resource after it's answered and accepted, if a good/valid answer is accepted and up top I see no other issues
 
@Benjol: I wrote an answer to a question, then edited it as Nick was posting his. Both turned out to be more or less the same answer, but technically Nick's was there first.
@Nick: very sporting of you :-)
 
Which question? can you paste the link here?
 
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Q: Creating an element with properties, using an object-literal

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posted the answer by mistake
 
Thanks, I was feeling left out, not that I know anything about jquery
 
12:38 PM
should move to general and keep this room on topic :)
 
yes. moving to general
 
12:54 PM
Bug - The reply to doesn't work correctly if it's your own message (though, should you be able to reply to your own?)
:54932 example reply to previous message
 
@NickCraver it appears to be explicitly filtered out. Suggest [feature-request] on MSO
 
@Richard- not finding it...but shouldn't it be excluded from the gutter popup menu?
 
@Nick maybe... I notice that star and flag are now.
 
that's what I'm thinking, it was just added probably just need a few tweaks
 
Earlier discussion (which Jeff and Marc were in) has various changes for reply-to coming up anyway
 
12:59 PM
Testing chat feature.
 
 
2 hours later…
2:42 PM
How do you invite someone into another room?
 
go to their profile, click on their avatar to get there
 
Oh, you actually have to open a new tab rather than it being in the popup div? Oy. ):
Thanks.
 
inviting is a quite new feature -- we aren't quite decided on the UI yet. But in the end, I want to have it on the room page.
this is one of those "make it work first, then make it better" features
 
Yeah, that'd be good.
 
@balpha is sound working atm? regardless of setting i'm getting it for every message
 
2:52 PM
hmm... I don't have flash in this browser, so I wouldn't know...
let me check something
so you have it fully turned off, but still getting sounds?
 
had when mentioned, switched off, try now
 
lalala
 
yup still getting sound
 
is the JS cookie noise_level set?
 
0
noise_level=0
 
2:56 PM
that's okay then
getting any javascript errors?
 
nope all clear
 

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