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8:35 AM
@ShadowWizard :P
A shadow uses toilet paper, that is really amazing :D
 
@user12312313 even a shadow has to be clean, you know.... :P
 
 
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11:50 AM
@ShadowWizard Comment on:
No, ordinary moderators can't change the icon, only Stack Exchange developers. You should discuss this in the per site meta, and let the Community Manager responsible for the site decide, if he/she agree then it can be taken to the next level. — Shadow Wizard Jul 2 '15 at 9:26
So, graduation isn't compulsory for it. Right?
@FOX9000 growth
 
@Pandya secretion
 
12:30 PM
@ShadowWizard I only hear this alibi in a crime scene
 
 
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1:56 PM
@Pandya true, I'm pretty sure there are sites still in "beta", officially, but got their own icon and even full design.
 
@ShadowWizard OK. Thanks for your reliable clarification!
 
>>cat my pleasure {{ping {{randomchoice Pan Pand Pandy Pandya}}}}!
 
@ShadowWizard my pleasure @Pandya!
 
@ShadowWizard Btw, this answer says beta doesn't get new look. Will not it affect favicon also?
@FOX9000 emission
 
2:13 PM
@Pandya dioxide
 
@FOX9000 carbon
 
@Pandya solubility
 
@FOX9000 dissolution
 
@Pandya acidic
 
@Pandya oh, oops. Got it the other way around.
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Q: Design-Independent Graduation is on for early September!

AnaThis is a follow-up to an earlier discussion Feedback Requested: Design-Independent Graduation. Like the title says, design-independent graduation will go into effect and become our new regular practice the second week of September! All sites which have been waiting in the backlog to graduate w...

Site can graduate without new design, but not the other way around.
So I'm not sure about favicon, sorry. Better ask Tim Post.
 
2:16 PM
@ShadowWizard we've from shog9 for this FR.
@ShadowWizard Is he ping-able, I've just tried on Tavern on Meta.
 
@Pandya oh. But this might take years. review means "we will take a look sometime, think about it for long time, and there is a chance we will do it."
 
@ShadowWizard it was earlier but I've contacted community managers and explained the issue. Now we've for it.
 
@Pandya no, he isn't, but Shog is.
Edit if you still can.
@Pandya well, the chance is not 0 now, but from scale of 0-100, I'd say it's still less than 10.
 
in Hinduism on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Dec 17 at 18:18, by Pandya
> It's waiting on designers; marked it status-review.
 
otherwise Shog would have also said something like "OK, we'll do it".
 
2:27 PM
@ShadowWizard historical movements FYI : chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/32911218#32911218
 
@Pandya nice!
 
Btw, I think "Shadow's Den" is safer than "Tavern on Meta" for discussing critical topics!! Haha /cc @ShadowWizard
 
@Pandya yeah, no diamonds here.... :D
no @Tim
no @Shog
no @Bart
 
Can we have @Oded here?
 
@Pandya he was here and posted.... so yeah, in theory we can direct reply to one of his messages and he'll be pinged. ;)
 
2:39 PM
@ShadowWizard I don't see Bart having diamond. Is his diamond stolen!
 
I asked him.... let's wait.... ;)
 
@ShadowWizard and has this page erased?!
 
@Pandya no, it's not possible to show all user messages in a room, only search. e.g. searching for "pings" gives a result: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/…
@Oded hey, long time no ping! So how is it going? :)
 
@ShadowWizard Oh! ok
 
3:18 PM
Whassup?
 
Hey @Oded! @Pan just asked about you. ;)
You know the Pandya who isn't a Panda? :D
 
Aye, I am familiar with that personage.
 
haha, yeah. @Pandya is a nice person. :)
 
BTW - ॐ wouldn't really render at all on a 16*16 icon.
 
@Oded What do you mean? Isn't it just a unicode character? It looks fine here... unless I miss something? /cc @Pandya
That aside, how you celebrate חנוכה @Oded, if at all? :)
 
3:30 PM
@ShadowWizard still need to put it in a bubble...
@ShadowWizard lighting candles with the kids every night, enjoying a staycation with a visiting grandmother.
 
@Oded oh. Well, that's up to the designers I guess. And if it won't be technically possible, it will be proper reason to decline that FR. :)
 
I think that's the thinking behind it, at least the original decline (and frankly, that ico you linked to - looks terrible).
 
@Oded nice! Same with my kids, grandmother also visited us one day... small world! :P
 
I also know they were revisiting the decision. No idea what the conclusion is/was/will be.
 
@Oded hehe, just Googled for that character with "favicon", it came on top. :)
 
3:33 PM
Yeah, but with 16*16, something that complex is difficult to make look good.
 
@Oded well, Pandya appears to care a lot about it.
 
I get it, I really do. But - not my decision.
 
@Oded I know. :)
 
@Oded Hello! Nice to see you here!
 
o/
 
3:42 PM
@Oded what do you mean by 16*16? pixel, inches..
 
pixel
 
Pixels - the most usual resolution of a favicon.ico icon (though 32*32 and 48*48 are also known in the wild, usually all resolutions living in the same file).
 
this @Pan ^
@Oded well, at least on SE they're not in one file e.g. meta.stackexchange.com/content/img/… and meta.stackexchange.com/content/img/…
(each resolution got its own Sprites)
 
@ShadowWizard sprites are not .ico files ;)
 
@Oded Ok. I'll check and will discuss when I'll on PC
 
3:50 PM
The file format for .ico files allows for multiple resolutions/versions to live in the same file.
 
@Oded oh. yeah... so .ico file contains several images? Didn't know that. :)
 
Yeps. Was surprised to learn that a good few years ago :)
 
We can also think for circular symbol like this
 
Many image editors will only display the first image, not all of them. Usually need a dedicated icon editor to see it all correctly.
 
I really wondered why it's so hard/complicated to create .ico files, compared to other formats. Now I know. :)
 
3:54 PM
@Pandya again, what that would look like in 16px*16px? Nothing like that nice crisp image, I'd wager.
 
@Oded I do use GIMP for image editing.
 
I don't recall how it deals with ico files.
Anyhow - back to my scheduled vacation, and relinquish the family computer to the kids...
 
@Oded as I've said, I'll check size and pixel and will discuss soon.
 
@Pandya better within 7 days, while Oded will be pingable here.... ;)
this reminds me.... @ber behold, @Oded is here!! :P
 
4:00 PM
@ShadowWizard Ok. Btw, what I'm not aware that Oded is pingable on certain days!
@ShadowWizard Thanks for sharing that link
@Oded Btw, how are you familiar with my personage?
 
Seen you around, is all :)
 
@ShadowWizard Thanks for introducing me to moderator. Good-bye!
 
4:43 PM
@Oded ^^ 48*48. Is it ok?
^^ 32*32. /cc @ShadowWizard
^^ 16*16
 
5:00 PM
ॐ written in 32 px font written on 32*32 pixel area:
^^ ॐ written of 16 px font in 16*16 pixel area:
 
 
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6:47 PM
As I said - not my decision - it is something for the design team.
 
7:27 PM
@Pandya not moderator, SE employee and developer. :-)
@Pandya cheers!
 

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