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5:16 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
If you wanted to ask on Super User, use that site. (If you get a message that says you are not allowed to post there, please read the link that would be given to you - here it is again, for reference). You may not bring a question about using your computer here in order to work around a question ban, because you are being ignored on the proper site, or for any other reason. This place is for asking about Stack Exchange itself. — Karl Knechtel 9 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Is there a feature that allows me to ask such questions while not disrupting the flow of the site?" - ask what questions? In the previous paragraph, you do not describe anything that I could reasonably call a "question". — Karl Knechtel 14 secs ago
 
5:43 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by uhoh
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog so perhaps "Should we be less afraid of merging?" or "Should we merge more often" or "Are we merging enough?" might be a better title or a new question? But before that, maybe a SEDE check for what fraction of well-received answers on closed questions were ever merged (just enough to support the assertion that it's probably quite small). Different but related: Have there been analyses to see if views of well-received answers are reduced by closure as duplicate which try to control for other factors?uhoh 25 secs ago
 
6:22 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
According to this, the company already has its focus on several big projects, so I wonder if what you mention here is part of one of those projects? Or something else? — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 55 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Erin Anne
The merging we have seems overly destructive to me, now that I know about it. — Erin Anne 11 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Hi-Tech Polytechnic College
best polytechnic college in bihar — Hi-Tech Polytechnic College 24 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by uhoh
@ErinAnne I think the first step would be to take a half-dozen cases of merging in an SE site you're familiar with, and look at the edit history to see what was done. I think any conscientious moderator can do a faithful job of merging when the situation allows it. It's a bit like surgery and I think mods are hesitant because it is by nature heavy-handed and the opposite of "light-touch", but I don't think it should be quickly labeled "destructive" much less overly-so, until you've examined several examples. — uhoh 16 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
Hi Fulya Ertay, welcome to the Stack Exchange Network Meta site! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an expert's answer for the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — rene 30 secs ago
 
6:53 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by user13267
The real reason this question is downvoted is because, from just the title and cursory glance, it looks like this is an "SO is useless I got a downvote" question, which a lot of the pseudointellectual members here like to DV/VTC without trying to understand what he exact problem described is. A large crowd in the SE forums seem to have this idea that not being able to get help on SE, or people here becoming generally unfriendlier should not be pointed out or criticized, because it's probably the askers own fault obviously — user13267 22 secs ago
 
 
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11:53 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Jeff Zeitlin
I should think that how this is handled would be site-dependent, and this question should be asked in the Meta for the site in question. For example, in Science Fiction & Fantasy, it's normal to not close a question as duplicate until we get a confirmed answer that is the same work as the proposed duplicate; the reasoning for this is explained in a question in the SciFi meta (which I can't seem to dig up a link for at the moment). — Jeff Zeitlin 31 secs ago
 
 
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1:04 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by user253751
@Nij The question is whether a site is allowed to operate as a push site and if not, what the mechanism for correction is. Was this not clear? — user253751 38 secs ago
 
1:43 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
Hi hussain ashraf, welcome to the Stack Exchange Network Meta site! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an expert's answer for the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz 25 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
 
2:15 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
You don't get answer in less than hour on Stack Overflow, so you come and ask the same question here? That's not nice at all. (And off topic here) — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 37 secs ago
 
2:56 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Resistance Is Futile
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda I would assume that giving you sign in popup would only be for situations when you are not already signed in. I those popping up for a while on every page I opened on Stack Overflow today. — Resistance Is Futile 36 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Resistance Is Futile
I got confirmation it was a bug that was resolved in the meantime. — Resistance Is Futile 21 secs ago
 
 
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4:05 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Sachin Kumar
Well, this was a bug for the last week. and session persistent like from the last month. — Sachin Kumar 5 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
I'm pretty sure Shog9 said something about this but I can't find where atm. IIRC newer posts are prioritized and then posts that had recently a review task completed. — rene 6 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by CPlus
Wrong site. Try Stack Overflow. — CPlus 46 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by nog642
@OOPSStudio That attribution is relatively meaningless anyway. It only shows the latest edit, even if multiple significant edits were made. — nog642 19 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by CPlus
Wrong site, try Stack Overflow. — CPlus 47 secs ago
 
4:48 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
@ResistanceIsFutile sure, but the bug was likely that SO failed to detect the user already signed in, can't know why though. Hopefully a dev will hop by and explain. — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 10 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
@SachinKumar so it is fixed now for you as well? — Shadow Wizard Love Zelda 1 min ago
 
 
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7:32 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
You're asking everyone else why you believe that? I can assure you it was updated, but perhaps you could provide some reasoning behind your question? — Aaron Bertrand 11 secs ago
 
7:55 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Franck Dernoncourt
@rene Thanks, sorry I don't see the answer in the duplicate. Where is the answer? — Franck Dernoncourt 49 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Shog9
Pretty sure the logic for populating these queues has changed a bit since I left, but... Someone reported pretty much this same behavior 7 years ago, and I laid out the possibilities for why they might observe it. Or if you prefer, tl;drShog9 45 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by rene
You can't see when it was cached. Surfacing that info is useless as you can't uncache it. If you need the fresh query result, re-run with other parameters and/or add the cache breaker as shown in the duplicate . Query results are reset when the SEDE refresh runs. — rene 6 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Franck Dernoncourt
@rene It's useful to see of SEDE has refreshed. Can you please reopened + move your comment as an answer? thanks — Franck Dernoncourt 9 secs ago
 
8:37 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
“When was a query cached?” isn’t an accurate way to tell when SEDE refreshed anyway. I posted links to two queries on your deleted question that show better ways to do that. — Aaron Bertrand 54 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Franck Dernoncourt
@AaronBertrand Thanks, the links were indeed useful. "When was a query cached?” isn’t an accurate way to tell when SEDE refreshed but it's hopefully an accurate way to tell if SEDE was refreshed. Besides, the question is not a duplicate. — Franck Dernoncourt 45 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
I didn’t close it as a duplicate. But the answer to your specific question is: you can’t. — Aaron Bertrand 48 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Franck Dernoncourt
@AaronBertrand Noted, thanks — Franck Dernoncourt 57 secs ago
 
 
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10:26 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
Most sorting issues on pages full of lists are not "bugs" they're just... that's what you get. Any list that is built by code might just be doing a foreach without an explicit order. Any query against the database without an ORDER BY is going to return results in the order SQL Server decides to return them, and it won't always be in the order you expect. Even queries with an ORDER BY that is not deterministic (not enough sorting expressions and/or no tie-breakers) could change behavior every time. — Aaron Bertrand 37 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
I was away from the computer earlier but for posterity here are the two queries I referenced: (1) How long did each database take in the last SEDE refresh? (2) The 10 most recent questions on Stack Overflow. — Aaron Bertrand 56 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
Sometimes, it's by design, not someone saying "let's order these two lists differently," just possibly two different queries constructed (or last modified) at different times and by different people, without any dictated standard for sorting. Other times it's just an expectation based on observation, e.g. one query might have SELECT * FROM (SELECT TOP (100) FROM ... ORDER BY something) AS x; <-- many people expect the outer result to have to obey the inner ORDER BY, but SQL Server doesn't have to handle it that way. Without an ORDER BY it could very well order in the opposite direction. — Aaron Bertrand 16 secs ago
 
10:55 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Rick Smith
@AaronBertrand - I first noticed the behavior about two weeks ago so I have been checking regularly. I had the occasion to VTC a post so with both pages open, I VTC'd then refreshed the list. The only change I noticed was a swap of the last two items consistent with ORDER BY. Having seen that, I wanted to raise the issue here in case it was a bug and having a preference for newest to oldest. — Rick Smith 12 secs ago
 
11:25 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by paddy
It's still a giant pain in the arse. I often provide links to related questions in comments, and I always have to visit the page, copy the URL, paste in my other tab, go back, copy the title paste in the tab. The argument that this is a feature is ridiculous. We are even encouraged to share links, by way of having a badge for it. There are times where doing this in comments is more appropriate. — paddy 58 secs ago
 
11:54 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by starball
The answer to "could they" is yes. One way would be by using the DOM broadcast channel API. You could use websockets or other server push things, but that would require client-server communication. Not sure if there are any sync-related edge-cases that would be problematic though. — starball 47 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Nij
"It then shows the message that my vote is locked in" is exactly what "StackExchange show when you upvote a post on other browsers tabs with the same post open" looks like. — Nij 49 secs ago
 

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