@StoneyB That's the bit that's exercising some people for sure. It's the bit being played on by the press. But there's aso the self-determination thing, the fact that the EU is a bit humanitarian and lefty. The question's been framed in the wrong way. Our right wing government spent ages bad-mouthing the EU to the public to gain votes, bad-mouthing the EU to the press to gain votes. So now, given that they actually want to sty in they're being kaiboshed by their own propoganda.

@StoneyB That evil ****, Borris Johnson, the UK's answer to your Trump decided to comit treason on his country (I'm not using that lightly as you'll see) as well as betraying London. He has always been pro the EU. He knows full well why being in the EU is so important for Britain and for Europe. He has always argued for being in Europe. ...

@StoneyB ... But he's seen an opportunity to become a "leader" and an avenue to the prime ministership and a glorious career, so he's dumped what he knows to be the best interests of the country he pretends to support to further his political career. He doesn't give a shit about the people he is pretending to 'look after'. I would prosecute him, if I could.

@StoneyB Very old people (who were around in the war) and younger people tend to be more pro EU, wrinklies who weren't tend to be anti. So the wrinklies may get to determine the future of the youngsters when they won't even be around to have to live through it. I hope the sprogs got out to vote today ....