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Q: some praise for the developers

illicitI have been testing the alpha iOS Stack Exchange app for about a week now, and I love it! You guys did an amazing job, which is not surprising considering the massive amounts of knowledgeable people who use this site. Nice work fellas.

Is this... a question?
 
Doesn't need to be on meta, but there's something majorly weird going on with revisions there.
 
@Doorknob no
 
1:09 AM
@Doorknob no
 
1:50 AM
@Doorknob no
 
 
2 hours later…
user202362
3:27 AM
Does server fault have chats?
 
6:17 AM
They seem to be working in pairs
 
@Bart the question is cr@p as well.
 
Yeah, that's my point. It's a pair. On SF as well it seems. Posting a semi legit question (if off topic) and then a spam answer
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Q: Just how to understand website design in wikiversity?completely confusion.please aid me.?

user3595310Because website just how can we discover? They're offering like article.i need topic(website design)

At least it's suspicious ... not entirely sure if that second one is spam
 
They link to the same site, so... yes
 
Ah, overlooked that. YAY FLAGS
 
"
Suspicious request

Sorry, your request could not be completed because it looked suspicious. If you meant to perform an action on Server Fault, please return to the previous page and try again.
"
 
6:27 AM
@Bart should we be flagging answers as spam and questions as VLQ?
 
Given the pairing I went with spam flags on the questions as well. NOt sure if that is going to work.
 
Other reason: "I am Bart, appove it".
 
That's the description for most of my "other" flags.
Crap ... just got deleted. No spam deletion.
 
I think we need a pure crap flag reason
wow, what a ... ping-pong for protected-unprotected...
 
?
 
Ah, that one. Still don't know what all the fuzz is about there.
Even with the now deleted answer.
 
@rene: wants to give the third delete vote? stackoverflow.com/questions/14932732/…
 
6:57 AM
@LaszloPapp gone
 
thanks.
hehe, two unexplained downvotes within a minute for long posts again... one is aware of the limit (three serial downvotes) that the system can detect.
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Q: How to send ifconfig from linux application

user3598470Welcome, I am writing a program on linux. I would like to read ifconfig and screen on the tabwidged. I have no idea how can i do that. Anyone Help. I found this example http://www.codeprogress.com/cpp/libraries/qt/QTabWidgetSetTabButton.php#.U2SQY_l_u31 I would like to upgrade this.

heh, I gave a critic, and got a -1 instantly without explanation.
one rep drop, and one downvote increase, plus one vote from the user today. :D
is this flag worthy?
 
Nope
But can that user even downvote?
Ah, sorry, OP of the other answer
But still, nope.
 
yeah, he is just plain nonsense.
the kind of people that break experienced contributors.
he is a new contributor, only 4 months old... that is probably another factor why he is like that.
 
7:13 AM
One of those "I welcome all constructive criticism, as long as it's positive about me" kind of deals.
 
yeah, so I understand why downvote reason would be bad if not anonymous.
some people would not like to get demotivated by all this.
 
@Bart the answerer only has 25 rep. I'm not sure he was expected to know already
 
That such questions were off-topic? Kinda should have known, given what they are made to read.
He has asked 3 questions after all
But if not, then he knows now.
 
search in Google — www.sblog.in 6 mins ago
:D
 
7:21 AM
@LaszloPapp that guy should really change his username
 
That answerer was lucky, he missed a downvote from me (he deleted 6 seconds earlier)
 
Vote to undelete?
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Q: Reprogramming mouse receiver

PhaireroCan I reprogram Logitech M235 wireless mouse receiver to receive Silvercrest MTS2118-FI signal ? Mouse is dead and keyboards receiver went for a swim... Any ideas?

:)
 
I wish I had more close votes...
 
ROFL
Honestly, who has time to spend formatting their questions to fit the ridiculous standards of this site. I'm slaving away trying to finish this damn app so I can release it into the wild and make a few bucks and if the laser beams are supposed to shoot from my robots eyes and they are coming out of his feet then nobody is going to want to play it! Why can't you feel my pain? — LooMeenin 3 hours ago
Why can't you feel my pain? .... brilliant.
 
lol
 
7:27 AM
@Bart, yeah, you are cruel.
poor guy and you do not give a ...
 
True. No argument there
 
You don't want to have that crap end-up in some App Store and read in the about page: Thanks to Stack Overflow for making this work
 
Actually, I would kinda like that. "If it wasn't for SO I would not have been able to complete this, because I have no clue what I'm doing"
Which seems to be the case for a lot of Unity 3D stuff
 
you are united?
 
I don't know why somebody make my question to -1 vote , if u don't have answer then skip this. — DEBAL 2 mins ago
I didn't skip...
 
7:37 AM
And he's cross posting somehow
The first line indicates as much
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Q: MVC4 .NET Project Architecture Guidance

DEBALNow a days am going develop one E-Commerce Site, using .net mvc4 technology. My project is developing under MVC architecture. Now We want to make this Project that we have developed in 3 tier Architecture . First is Client , Second is Infrastructure , Third is Services . The Client is made wi...

 
@rene actually, the formatting makes my spam detectors go crazy.
 
@JanDvorak That is good?
 
Hey @JanDvorak, I DEMAND MY CREDIT
 
Who are you?
Thanks @JanDvorak much appreciated!
 
@Bart nice dupe find. Now I can downvote two poor questions instead of one :-)
 
7:41 AM
Yay!
 
user202362
thanks
 
Don't troll them too much @telkitty.exe. Ease into it
 
7:57 AM
6-8 weeks then?
This question is far too broad for the site. Also, in 10 days? Forget about it. — Bart 21 mins ago
 
That sounds far more accurate
And I'm speaking from experience
:)
 
8:10 AM
Hey everyone!
 
Hiya
 
Can someone suggest a good title for a canonical question?
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Q: What should we do with "MySQL reserved keywords" questions?

Amal MuraliOn Stack Overflow, there are a lot of questions where use reserved keywords as identifiers such as table and column names. A quick Google search query "mysql" "is a reserved keyword" site:stackoverflow.com turns up 23,000 results. Even if we consider 50% of them as false positives, there are stil...

 
"Why can't I use certain variable names in MySQL?" @AmalMurali ?
 
That looks good. But they're not really variables. They're identifiers, no?
 
Pff, what am I? A programmer? ... wait ...
 
8:18 AM
hehe
> Certain words such as SELECT, DELETE, or BIGINT are reserved and require special treatment for use as identifiers such as table and column names. This may also be true for the names of built-in functions.
 
yeah, so s/variable/identifier
But in any case something nice and broad like that which is also easy to remember if you have to look for it.
 
I'm not sure most people would find it that way.
Yeah, so how about something like "Reference: Why can't I use certain table/column names in MySQL?"
 
I wouldn't preface it with the "reference:" bit. But other than that I'd say it sounds appropriate
 
8:35 AM
It don't work. I've got php error. I think It comes from my string. I edited my question. — lolo 4 mins ago
Can I shoot people who say "it doesn't work"? :-(
 
Some time ago I tried to clarify such a statement with a "What exactly doesn't work?". The response ... "my code".
 
LOL
It output nothing. I checked my $date string and it's not empty... — lolo 2 mins ago
Are people blind? Can't they even just CLICK a link? At this point, I'll just delete my answer :-P
 
9:38 AM
@AmalMurali Probaly an IE user that is instructed not to click on links anymore...
 
10:00 AM
Hey you Charcoal HQ people, stop being so abusive @Doorknob @hichris
 
@Bart to whom? What did they do?
 
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Q: Moderator problems

TheDoctorEarlier today on chat, a certain mod kept banning me from Charcoal HQ, seemingly for fun. This is yet another example of a mod misusing their powers, and what can be done about it? Some quotes from chat: @TheDoctor try to rejoin Charcoal HQ. :P @TheDoctor Try now. :P And an explanatio...

Such abuse, very anger, much inappropriate, wow.
 
10:31 AM
Should this go into close mode? If yes, which reason?
 
@rene I love "unclear" for code dumps
 
It is not even the code that has the problem. I fixed something for the OP that isn't broken... :(
I voted similar...
 
Ah, let's go with "unclear".
 
It gets worse... I got a inbox message (the comment is removed I think) that the output should go in an Android label...does that have a label.Multiline= true;?
 
10:49 AM
Some questions turn from "how do I do X" to "how do I write software at all".
 
Yeah...I'm done with that question...
If this is still open can you cv?
 
11:06 AM
@rene I see two close reasons used on that question: too broad and "no longer reproducible/typo". How do you see it?
 
Typo
He renamed the files...
 
Closed.
 
11:22 AM
@rene gone
 
sure, go spam the one site where all the spam nuking bastards are ... smart move
 
Can someone help explaining what this OP must do?
It is working but not prforming as I wanted =) — Aisha Ahmed Ahmed 1 min ago
 
@rene I can supply unclear votes if you want ... done
 
Lets do that. That question is useles in its current state
tnx
 
11:38 AM
Oops.... wrong link.
You should perform some unit testing to isolate at which layer of your application your problem is located. You may completely solve your problem while doing this. However, if at the end of the testing process you still have a problem, then it is much more likely to be a fit for Stack Overflow than this long, multi-layered question you have here. — Louis 1 min ago
And a close vote.
 
Nice comment!
 
@JanDvorak It's been defaced.
Defaced by OP actually.
 
no need to rescue, I guess?
 
I guess not.
It there were upvoted answers that would be different.
I dont' get why the OP did not just delete it.
 
11:45 AM
@Bart If you don't know then what u doing in this site , go and sleep in ur home, u put questions on hold as a result it is not reach to many experts mail box .Shame — DEBAL 16 mins ago
:D
Seems we're all having great results today
 
The second comment is far too snarky but oh so funny
 
When I see questions like this one, I have to fight the urge to comment "Lemme grab my ol' crystal ball."
 
12:01 PM
Today's Listening: Glitch Hop
 
12:36 PM
@GnomeSlice i like it
 
1:32 PM
@Louis My comment on that meta question was not meant for you, sorry about that
 
@rene Yeah, saw your comment. I've removed my comment anyway because I managed to fumble it. You might want to do the same.
 
I did
 
I managed to fumble my actions on that question multiple times. :-(
 
I will be more careful next time... I hope...sorry
 
Btw, I initially voted-to-close the same as you guys did but then I retracted my vote.
I think that question is not a duplicate of the one currently pointed to.
The OP here is asking how to overcome the limit.
The other question is asking why the limit.
 
1:35 PM
I read that he tries to answer a question by leaving a comment...
????
 
Well, the OP is stating " But when I found outer people's question topics I knew the answer but I couldn't comment on it" and asking "How do I get more rep if I don't have any more questions to ask?"
So, yeah telling the op not to put an answer in a comment is warranted.
 
OK, so I confused a statement with a question. Or I'm just bad in reading...
Do we need to leave a new comment to get some clarification, give some guidance?
 
I guess a comment that singles out that part of the question "You say you'd like to put a comment when you know the answer. You know you..." might be helpful.
And if the OP is not happy with the closure as duplicate, he can say something in a comment.
 
Ok, I edited the question to get the question and statement clear
@Louis sound fine to me
Are you leaving that comment or should I try to fix the relationship with that OP @Louis
 
@rene Oh, I thought you'd leave that comment. I did not want to usurp your contribution. :)
 
1:46 PM
:-)
I'm on it then
 
It just occurred to me the OP might have been talking about "answers" like "You've got a typo here." which is not really an "answer".
Or not the kind of answer we like to promote.
 
I point him to the answer part in the help center
done
How can you see if a question is close voted for migration? stackoverflow.com/questions/23441847/…
 
2:50 PM
needs a drink.
better than to engage in a grammar discussion.
 
throws drink at screen .... regrets that immediately
 
I need that stab-people-in-the-face-over-the-internet thing to be invented. Now.
Flagging a comment as offensive doesn't quite have the same.. force behind it.
 
Mat
@MartijnPieters: roll-back to the original post, vote to close as unclear. I'm really really twitching to do that.
 
@Mat: roll back to my original edit you mean? Because the OP already rolled my edit back once.
 
Mat
Nah, rollback to OP's first revision
 
2:53 PM
then VtC because as a bug report it is unclear.
I think it wiser to just avoid the OP altogether.
 
Mat
Yep. Totally not constructive. But might relieve the stress :-)
It's a pitty though, the feature request has merit.
 
The malt whiskey is doing the job just fine. :-P
 
Ooh ... yep, staying out of that one. I was just about to edit ...
Time for coffee then
 
Hehe, I hadn't really noticed that he ever rolled back the retag.
Then reapplied the retag.
 
"this is really a feature request" ... no shit
 
2:58 PM
But what else to expect from someone who deliberately lowercases i because he objects to the linguistic self-indulgence of the Anglo-Saxons.
 
.... /facepalm
 
and totally misses the irony of that statement.
 
Feature-request: do away with the linguistic self-indulgence of the Anglo-Saxons.
 
Where is Will when you need him. That could use one of his to the point comments.
 
3:14 PM
@Won't: yeah, how come we never see you here no more?
(he won't get that, he's not been in the Tavern for about a year now).
 
.... yet @jadarnel27 arrives immediately .... suspicious
 
I've been Will all along.
 
3:30 PM
\o
 
3:41 PM
Go back to school. — Lightness Races in Orbit 6 mins ago
how productive comment ...
 
Mat
Your replying comment isn't productive either. Flag and move on.
 
he will not learn the lesson and I am full of his comments like that the 100000th time.
 
Mat
Do you really think you're helping though? If you're sure that person won't change, don't bother.
 
@LaszloPapp: The point is to inform the OP that he has missed fundamentals at school and should resume his education, because we are not here to provide a general computing education. A bit of research or Googling wouldn't hurt, either. Now, smart-arse, your turn: what is the point of your comment? — Lightness Races in Orbit 2 mins ago
"smart-arse" -> what a tone ...
 
@Mat On the other hand, not commenting on it might give the mistaken impression that such comments are all fine and dandy. "That user left a rude comment and nobody did a thing about it". Visibly that is.
 
3:46 PM
@Mat: I really hope he will change, yes, if community members tell it to him. Without trying, there is no expected result. It is also an indication to the community that you should not leave such comments because they will be questioned.
I do not think the question deserves 8 downvotes either
he clearly tried a lot of things, but he did not get the idea of floating point.
 
so he did have some effort, much more than the average user.
 
@TGMCians Or other this is something only your university can fix?
 
Many people will take it as offense to get that as the second comment for a honest question after some effort shown to understand the issue, like "go back to school" which is literally what you wrote. This is not productive, nor helping anymore, nor friendly... it is simple worse than an unexplained downvote. I have seen this several times. Please refrain from this in the future if I may ask you. — Laszlo Papp 1 min ago
 
Don't make me refer to you as "children" and suggest that you take it to Meta @LaszloPapp ;)
 
3:52 PM
@Bart: I can take it to meta... but that would not be good reputation for him.
 
@rene "I want load this site too my App for sign in user into site but no load into mobile and show some massage" When he is trying to do in app but didn't share the exact message what he is getting, yes only university can fix it as he said "Golestan system does not work properly on your browser. Please use Microsoft Internet Explorer version 6 or upper"
 
Let's just take it anywhere except in those comments @LaszloPapp. It's not going anywhere and there will be a bunch of crap to nuke.
 
@Bart: I do not think it would go anywhere on meta either.
it is kind of funny that this user accussed H2CO3 with being snarky.
 
True, but there you would be duking it out for all of us where we watch with popcorn and think "that's a mighty spectacle". In the comments you're duking it out in front of a new user who by now will think "holy crap, what did I stumble into?"
 
based on the comment upvotes, people even support his tone more than my warning.
so perhaps, that is an "OK" style on SO, sigh...
 
3:57 PM
Nah, bullcrap
 
@Bart: Created a reference question for that MySQL thingy... :)
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Q: Why can't I use certain words as table/column names in MySQL?

Amal Murali Note: This is a reference question. If you come across any questions matching this pattern, please close them as a duplicate of this one. I'm trying to perform a simple MySQL query as below: $query = "INSERT INTO user_details (username, location, key) VALUES ('Tim', 'Florida', 42...

 
Yay, let me close that against a duplicate. :p
 
Mat
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Q: New "reference questions"?

JoeThis question: Why can't I use certain words as table/column names in MySQL? states this: "Note: This is a reference question. If you come across any questions matching this pattern, please close them as a duplicate of this one." Is this an official "thing" or do we have some more defined way ...

 
lol
yah
:P
 
Mat
@AmalMurali: you're in the spotlight on meta ^^ :-)
 
3:59 PM
wait wat?
@Mat There's been more questions about this? Geez
 
is there a way that users like this get notified about their removed comments if marked offensive?
so that they are actually aware of the fact that others users and mods do not appreciate his tone?
 
Nope @LaszloPapp
 
(and kind of indication to change?)
 
Mat
Doesn't happen. Should get noted in the user's history for mods to see. If it gets out of hand, custom-flag.
 
I think we should have an additional flag for comments: "this comment is just telling read the docs or google".
 
Mat
4:06 PM
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Q: YARA RULES AND COLLECTION OF SOME BIG CHUNKS OF YARA RUKES

user3599477IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC WEBSITE FOR THE COLLECTION OF YARA RULES OR IF ANY BODY OF YOU HAS SOME BIG CHUNKS OF YARA RULES PLEASE SHARE THEM WITH ME I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR THEM FROM A LONG TIME!

GIVE ME ALL YOUR YARA RULES OK!
NAO
 
"Dear OP. Please get back inside the plane. Close the door and return to your seat. You'll find that the noise there is significantly lower, allowing you to speak at a normal tone. Thank you for choosing SE Airlines"
4
 
I've got something in the works that will allow closing of duplicates much faster, which will curtail this to a degree. Yes, we want people answering questions, but we also want to encourage people to research and search first. If users with a lot of experience in a tag can quickly close duplicates, these won't stay open long enough for the usual semi-crappy 6 word answer. We've gotta overhaul how duplicates are displayed, too, but we're hoping to have some changes out next week. — Tim Post ♦ 4 mins ago
New stuff. YAY!
 
I think I proposed more power to the experienced users long ago.
 
 
That would give users like me power though.
 
4:13 PM
I wonder if I should make it CW?
So what? How does that solve the problem? Google will almost always return thousands links. And - btw, that's how I've found existing good answers. Then why don't use them? If the word "backtick" wasn't mentioned there, it's not a problem - because solution with backticks is listed thereAlma Do 31 secs ago
 
haha, got an unexplained downvote after the comment conversation. :P
 
WHAAT?
@LaszloPapp Always happens with me. So I've stopped adding "-1, because...". I just comment "Hmm, looks like ..." :-D
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@AmalMurali: it was just a reply to a comment under the question.
I will just flag it as rude-offensive next time, but after some accepted flags like that, I hope that the user will be warned.
Do you even C++ bro? Buy a beginner C++ book. This is Day 1 stuff. — uberwulu 54 secs ago
already got an upvote
meh, meh, and meh, just meh, really meh, and meh.
flagged as NC
comments are always removed by mods manually, or they get automatically removed for X flags?
 
3 flags = removed
excluding custom flags of course
 
@3ventic Custom flags are included.
 
4:22 PM
They are? That's.. wrong
 
I once removed a comment accidentially by casting a custom flag on it, while that was not my intension.
 
imho
 
You can also nuke any comment from anyone if it includes the word "accepted".
 
With one flag?
 
To test this theory, yesterday I flagged one of Tim Post's comments as "Not constructive", and boom, it was gone! lol
 
4:23 PM
I highly doubt that..
 
@3ventic yeah, in one flag.
 
A few months ago I flagged lots of comments like that
 
@AmalMurali that might be a results of the now obsolete "accept rate" comment code
 
@Bart Yeah, it is.
@3ventic Try it. Flag this comment as "Not constructive" and see what happens.
 
suspicious look
 
4:26 PM
 
wow
 
It doesn't matter how many upvotes that comment has, it will just be nuked IMMEDIATELY.
 
Is it only for not constructive though?
 
Let me check if it works on other sites as well.
 
P.S. How do you find those comments?
 
4:27 PM
Using Google :-P
 
[status-norepro] on Arqade
They broke the [status-] thing again? Meh
 
status-it-should-be-the-only-thing-in-your-message
 
status-sucks
 
on codereview.SE
 
Mat
status-pub-time-c-ya
 
4:30 PM
Wait. How do you make it dark? Add [meta-*]?
 
Uhh, wait, no!
 
Wayne -- It's typical in a startup... A company may come to you and say if you can get them a certain feature in a certain amount of time, then they'll buy your product. If the company is bootstrapped or tight on cash, then you'll generally accept the terms in order to keep cash flow positive. The employee's vested interest would be having a paycheck that cleared. — red-dirt Aug 18 '11 at 13:24
Gonna flag this.
 
On MSE, [meta-tag:] is the same as [tag:]
 
Oh damn, I don't have enough reputation to flag it.
Wat. [meta-tag:] appears as ^
[tag:test] as
 
Yes, it makes no difference on MSE.
 
4:32 PM
Not dark
 
pretty dark
 
@ProgramFOX How did this work then?
 
[status-status]
status-status
 
@AmalMurali Dark tags is not possible anymore on MSE.
 
Dark tags?
 
4:33 PM
This is how I see it.
Mine appears as normal tag, but rest of them dark
 
@3ventic this
just exclude the tag: from the start
it only works on chat.MSE though
 
status-status
 
status-oh-cool-this-is-awesome-dark-stuff
 
@AmalMurali That's not dark, that's red.
 
red is darker than white(-ish)
 
4:35 PM
Red is darker than whitish, no?
LOL
 
hah
 
Yes, but I thought that you meant another kind of dark, which was possible on MSO (but not on MSE).
Using [meta-tag:
Done.
 
thanks
 
I cannot understand
6-7 questions out of the 10 I see get downvoted to oblivion just because they are "simple", but valid questions.
 
4:51 PM
"simple" is not a downvote reason, but "endless duplicate" is.
These kinda correlate.
 
no, these are not endless duplicate.
in any case, today, I would not be a newcomer on Stack Overflow with questions in mind.
 
"simple" is not a downvote reason, "op being lazy, and showing no research effort" is
 
Do you think it matters
that my resumé is full of animation shit
if I'm applying to Wal-Mart
 
As long as it's not full of animated shit, you'll be fine.
 
@GnomeSlice sometimes they will not hire you because you will expect a high wage for your skillset :(
 
5:07 PM
oh, this reminds me that TomTom rejected me with 9X% test result because they think it is strong, but not enough. :)
amazon has been advertising on Stack Overflow a lot, well, I am not sure I have good opinion after reading this article about them: gawker.com/…
 
5:21 PM
This smells like spam to me:
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A: Web Application that is independent of web server software

cristinaYou can hire MicroDreamIT for your product configurator. MicroDreamIT is nice Web development company, developed many renouned Online Product Configurator like tailor4less.com. They are developing my online Jacket Configurator, you can check my on going project.

 
It is
 
flagged
 
Has a moderator the ability to revoke a bounty?
 
yes
 
Ok, thanks @TGMCians
 
5:26 PM
No problem :)
 
interesting that you guys have downvote rights on so many sites.
 
Let me check mine.
10 sites.
 
@LaszloPapp downvote rights?
You mean for the spam? That just comes with an auto-downvote due to the flag. That's not related to a privilege.
 
You'd need at least 15 reputation to flag right?
 
Yep
 
5:31 PM
Excluding or including the association bonus?
 
Including
So with your association bonus you're good to go.
 
@Bart: not only spams, no.
 
Ah, I see. Just flagged it. -5
 
anyone knows how to improve this answer? Got an unexplained downvote, the 5th or 6th today :) stackoverflow.com/questions/23447322/…
 
@Louis deleted
 
5:34 PM
@LaszloPapp Not really sure, but I think people think it's a too-basic question that shoud've been closed instead (it has 3 CVs as of now).
(But that's just a guess, I have no knowledge of that domain and find nothing wrong with your answer.)
 
the flags are obsolete I think.
"unclear" and "lacks sufficient information". In this case, the OP updated the question and it is all clear and reproducable.
there is no such a close reason as "too simple".
if it is really too simple and this question was asked before, duplicate would be OK, but I do not see any duplicate flags, either.
 
@ProgramFOX You can flag it if you have a valid reason, mod will see it, if it is helpful then they can revoke a bounty,
 
This seems a valid reason for me:
in The Nineteenth Byte on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 20 mins ago, by gamecoder
Hi, I started a bounty on my question without realizing that it only lasts for seven days. I had intended to announce the winner of my question (Speed Clue AI) after May 15, when I will start running the contest. Is there any way to extend the seven day period or to revoke the bounty so I can start it properly one week before announcing the results?
 
5:55 PM
I wonder if I should add a link to the reference question in the Meta post. What do you think?
 
that's sound good
 
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