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feels like he is on the outside looking in ;)

@michaelmrozek Oh, cool. Thanks!

It's tempting to write a tool that does that automatically, but I suppose SO would probably frown on it

Yah, probably.

@michaelmrozek It could also be that the asker doesn't understand the SO view on questions as content. Not that the rude answer helped any if that is the case.

1:00 AM

Oh, Futurama! How I missed thee.

Nick Craver

2:58 AM

@Shog - Does that OP just not get it at all? I understand the synonym UI isn't all that intuitive, but the poster seems especially dense...

Shog9

@nickcraver beats me.

He's "Mr. XSLT" on SO though - maybe he's just that emotionally invested in the tag...

Nick Craver

maybe so

Shog9

3:21 AM

I also get the sneaking suspicion (although he didn't actually admit it) that waffles is deleting the synonym when it gets activated... So it's possible that's confusing our Dimitre as well...

Eh, @waffles? You messin' with this poor guy's head?

bah, he's snoozin'. Lazy Australians.

4:19 AM

Someone forget to feed the hamsters?

4:31 AM

Woohoo, straight 20k! ![20000](img.skitch.com/20100818-e8addxp1dgj556xnm6x91s7cuc.png) ;)

How do images work here? :)

Just post the URL on its own line

Nice :)

I do enjoy hitting multiples of 1000 directly

Shog9

@deceze well, that didn't last long ;-)

Darn, can 5 people vote me down please? ;)

4:35 AM

Oh, actually I hit 10k directly, I forgot about it; I just found the screenshot on my hard drive

@michaelmrozek Goes well with the avatar, too.

Wow, I just found this one:

It feels like forever ago

What was so significant about 635 that you still have that screenshot?

I have no idea. It was a screenshot of the whole SO homepage, I cropped it, but I see nothing interesting in it

Ah, I found a reference to it in my IRC logs; I was demonstrating how SO lets you mark tags interesting/ignored and how it highlights them

6:33 AM

7:09 AM

@shog .. i dunno ... seems like a big storm for very little reason, I made the UI a bit more explicit on dev

Q: Censorship: Lifetime of Stackoverflow account

@waffles, good call on this one:

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I am back again - after all my posts (mainly about how to opmitize C code) have been erased without mercy (nor any warning). That's now the third time it happens. My sin? Having discussed Web application tools that outdo MICROSOFT products by orders of magnitude. My questions: How many amon...

He's asked the same question again (on SO), I think he's not reading properly...

7:24 AM

@Benjol he is banned from SO now ... really poor form if you ask me

@waffles, he'll be back, I guess... I wonder how many of these people just don't get SO, as opposed to being really malicious

causing a shit storm is not something that helps anyone... I think he is trying to plug his product .. there are tons of newsgroups and forums he can do it ... just go there

Of course, if you believe in a global conspiracy, you'll see it everywhere, (and it ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy)

It's actually scary that we deal with at least one of these guys a day

On any of the sites

But he provides premium content! He MUST be worth the daily drama to unban. /s

7:34 AM

I moderate at premium waffle rates. Therefore the cost of waffles compared to unbanning ain't worth the ban bonus I receive

Oooh.... waffles.

@spoulson, you want to start a trollsRUs stackexchange proposal :)

I am going to have a t-shirt made. Will moderate for waffles or unicorn horns!

Every community has some a-hole on a powertrip. Fortunately, this guy isn't a mod or Jeff/Joel.

But I applaud the passion in his efforts.

I dunno, I think the worse combination is when you have irrascible personalities + language barrier + internet anonymity + not reading the FAQ :)

I believe the term is eThug.

7:38 AM

well this is totally not called for en.wikipedia.org/w/…

Wow, he's got a grudge!

Wow... I think I take it all back.

This guy is a douchebag.

He fails at understanding basic business strategy. I suppose he expected nobody was making any money running SO?

@spoulson, or his own business strategy for that matter - pissing off the SO community is not the best way to get new customers...

I really think we could do with a 'debriefing' chat room, where people like this get 'invited' in for some kind of dialogue. (I know the most recent attempt didn't work, but hey...)

The problem with the last attempt, i think was everyone forgot the minumum requirement for rep for chat.

Its a time sink ... its not worth it ...

7:46 AM

@Diago, yes, I think that in these cases, that would have to be overridden, and the room would have to be 'disposable'

@Benjol Agreed

@waffles, maybe, but going round closing questions, (and rolling back wikipedia) is pretty time consuming too...

Anyway, I feel like sending the guy a mail because he's giving the .ch domain a bad name :)

there is no email ... he hid his tracks

I was going to send him one

Well, if it's the same guy : gwan.ch/en_contact.html

(And if it's not them, they might want to know that there's someone trolling in their name)

Don

is there any truth in his claim that SO gets money from MS?

7:51 AM

that is how ads work .... we put an ad on our site and we get money

simple

and sponsored tags for that matter

Don

OK, so the money he's talking about is MS advertising on SO?

@waffles @waffles, yeah, but that's not the reason his posts get flagged? I mean, I don't imagine that the gwan thing is even on MSs radar, let alone someone from MS phoning up Jeff and saying "swat that thing"

I don't even know where his original account is

I bet he was plugging his product in every post

I don't get what the problem is with MS advertising on SO. To me that is a good thing.

for all

eg. How do I do XYZ in C#?

funny that you mention that G-WAN can solve your problem

7:54 AM

reading this: forum.trustleap.com/web/g-wanforum.nsf/…, it looks like 'Pierre' might be your man ;)

Anyway, you're right, this is a time sink. I'm going to go and do something productive, bye!

stupid benchmarks if you ask me ... why not benchmark against nginx such a joke

9:34 AM

Anyone know what the exact deal is currently re VS2010 licences and TFS? Am I correct in my current understanding that if you have any license with MSDN, you get TFS too?

From one chat room

@Sam152, we can't, they can

To another.

I see.

ACtually I can remember it being tested

But I can't see how it's done :(

It was too late at night for me to follow the convo.

yesterday, by Marc Gravell

8 messages moved to The Tavern (General)

9:45 AM

Yeah. Not sure if it is a moderator or developer function.

And :

in The Tavern (General), yesterday, by Marc Gravell

8 messages moved from Chat feedback

So if no one boots us it must be fine?

I think the Tavern should be renamed to the Reedy Hut.

?

Or something punchier.

9:47 AM

Tavern is pretty universal, i think.

@Ocaasi , no, it just means the team are chatting in another room and haven't noticed yet :)

Yeah, i figured...

@Sam152 That post definitely should be in the Tavern :)

I'm giving feedback on chat!

Maybe we need a room to discuss which room different conversations should be in.

Or..

meta.chat.meta.stackoverflow.com

That's a good tactic. Would it be okay to ask a question on chat about why Ubuntu is better than Linux? Would it be okay to ask a question on chat about why programmers are mostly male. I'm not asking, I'm just asking if I can ask.

Sneaky.

Jeff Atwood

9:53 AM

25 messages moved from Chat feedback

So, this is the tavern...

@Ocaasi, yes

10:10 AM

Just got sent:

Person:
what is the malicius code on microsoft?

(after clicking a picture of lady gaga)

12:02 PM

@waffles, FWIW,

Pierre

62 1

c c++ algorithm computer-science complexity big-o security

Andy E's head

afternoon all.

12:17 PM

Howdy