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12:00 AM
@TimPost I believe my stuff was ordered... 8 months ago? I could be wrong, I really don't remember by now, but it's good to know they'll be here soon!
 
@hichris123 Trying to use my S.E. ID. @AnnaLear I have no previous profiles on the sites. I click 'sign up', enter my S.E id (name, email, password) and get "error during signup'.
 
@Mazura Ah. I think you want the login tab there, since you already have an SE OpenId account, but you don't have an account on that site.
@AnnaLear That error message should be more explicit, since it looks like all it's saying is 'hey, you already have an account!'
 
12:20 AM
That did it, thanks guys.
 
Welcome. :) I think that the error message should be more explicit, though.
 
Yep, @hichris is right. :) Although sign up is supposed to log you in if we recognize the stackid... Gotta be a bug somewhere. I'll look tomorrow.
 
1:00 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MATH HOMEWORK DUE AT 12 MIDNIGHT! on math.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector mm... yeah.... I won't worry, there are still hours left for midnight
 
13 hours in my timezone. Should be long enough for basic calculus.
 
@J.Musser you're barking up the wrong tree
 
1:18 AM
@lostsock Ha ha very funny.
There are still two hours and forty-one minutes till 0:00
where I am.
 
Irritated elephant.
 
ha
brown.
 
I can relate to elephants, and also cars. We all have trunks.
at least sedans.
Random poll: If you could have any car, what would it be?
 
any chevy
 
1:30 AM
Mmm... can you guys discuss this in, dunno, chat? I was scared when I checked my inbox (not that I'm against about you two fleshing out your ideas, just that... well.) — Braiam 2 hours ago
 
I'd go with a Lamborghini Veneno. :)
 
wonders how many trees are needed to build a Veneno
 
@Mazura Really? There one near me for $50, but it has extensive rust issues, and the engine seems to be missing. Also no tires.
 
whats a car??
 
any chevy that still runs ;p
 
1:32 AM
@J.Musser Self-driving.
 
@J.Musser is it an astro? sold!
 
@michaelb958 ? sounds boring and possibly scary
 
@lostsock Driving sounds scary. No way am I directing a tonne or more of metal, plastic and composites around the streets of $CITY manually!
 
@michaelb958 i have a lot more confidence in myself than another driver : human or automated
 
I can't believe they still let us drive.
 
1:40 AM
@lostsock Google makes em
@Mazura suburban
@lostsock I don't like driving with my eyes closed.
*riding
 
woah
Lights flickering.
 
That was weird.
 
@hichris123 ?
 
@lostsock We got storms a while back and the lights just started flickering. Like a lot.
 
1:44 AM
If it didn't cost like over 700 grand...
@michaelb958 Hey, if you have years of experience, and really know what you're doing (like me), you will have much better emergency instincts than any machine. I've been driving many vehicles for years, never once have I had an accident or gotten pulled over. :)
You can get a used Veneno for as much as your house ($700,000.00) but new ones are more like $4,500,000.00
I get my first nice question badge on meta! because
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Q: Should the closed as duplicate message be altered?

J. MusserHere's what the closed-as-duplicate message looks like: marked as duplicate by johndoe1, johndoe2, johndoe3, johndoe4, johndoe5 May 5 '55 at 5:55 This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question....

 
2:40 AM
Why is nobody here?
Anyway, goodnight, nobody.
 
I'm here!
 
I've been reading this "zigi drama"...
 
anyone knows where's that feature request in MSO about blocking code only answers?
 
3:29 AM
anyone can think of the tag for this question? stackoverflow.com/questions/25707912/… seems something related with search engines and html
 
i don't think it is related to Google+ even
 
I think it's related to Google Webmaster support.google.com/webmasters/answer/6083347?hl=en
 
both answer are Link only answer
agreed with Andrew
 
@SilentKiller but they answer the question
 
I'm more worried if the question is on-topic or not
 
3:35 AM
Braiam i prefer there should be minimum 2 line which explain actual problem with link no matter text has been copied from link itself.. but reader can get idea from that line is what exactly link for.
@AndrewT. its not a programming or development related question.
 
@Braiam the title is cut on your edit suggestion
 
@Braiam I just realized that the error on that webmaster question wasn't even about "the excerpt". [Trying www.google.com on the tool ](google.com/webmasters/tools/…) returns the same "the excerpt". So I'm still confused how to improve the question, if it really needs.
(wow, I broke the markdown)
 
3:51 AM
@Braiam yes.
 
those sharpdrops seems suspicious... or are review ageing?
 
They're the roomba, vote aging... you name it.
Lots of stuff happens at 3 UTC.
Night all
 
spam gone
 
@AndrewT. I blame the trailing space before the ].
 
4:28 AM
@TheWobbuffet I meant in a Democrats-vs-Republicans kind of way; it seems to me that "net neutrality", as it were, would get the most traction as a cross-partisan kind of issue.
 
#1 gone
#2 gone
 
I've just flagged so many link-only answers from a few users, and I still have plenty of remaining flags...
 
then pass the links
 
All 25 or so of them?
 
some of them. all 25 will be tedious.
 
5:01 AM
Sure
 
1 2 3 4 5 6
 
@Jamal which flag i should arise.?
 
@JanDvorak Gone
 
@SilentKiller VLQ
 
thank you. :)
 
@SilentKiller spam, obviously
 
5:09 AM
@Braiam spam or vlq i was confused so asked. done with vlq.
 
spam is gone and gone
 
@Jamal VLQ, or abusive?
 
@Jamal tl;dr cv-pls
 
@JanDvorak I just did NAA
And it's gone
 
5:16 AM
@SilentKiller I'm talking about the "spam" link that Jan is posting
 
@Braiam i flajjed them with spam only. :) was asking about link only answer. thanks for correcting.
 
@Jamal deleted by Community<>
 
Account was destroyed
 
oh.
I started thinking that the VLQQ was that fast
 
I wish, but I suppose that queue never gets empty on SO.
 
5:30 AM
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25779693/how-to-create-the-cartoo‌​n-camera-photo-effects-in-android
 
5:54 AM
also, the answer is a link to a list of links. Also, spam?
 
6:12 AM
@JanDvorak I don't consider the answer as spam. I read the post, and I don't feel any harm. I also consider the answer is better than the accepted one (albeit bad question)
 
spam gone ^
 
gone @jan
 
@JanDvorak "By the way, anyone have a iphone 6s,and how about it?" iPhone 6S... yeah, right (btw, the account website smells spammy)
 
@JanDvorak btw, actually off-topic: .*blatantly ot, has nothing to do with TPTB in the SE-network*
 
^ gone
 
@JanDvorak I'm editing to clarify.
There, all done:
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Q: Can we see users reading the chat transcripts?

Nitin GohelUsers who want to read chat messages can either enter the room they were posted in or view its transcript. Only the former category show up in the room's sidebar. Is there any way we can see that people are reading a room's transcript, and/or add them to the sidebar?

 
8:10 AM
Morgen
 
Guten morgen
 
Still doing morning trains...? *sigh*
 
how long do you travel mate
 
*sigh*
 
@JanDvorak you were a witness, right?
 
8:12 AM
what of?
 
soo... we're doing a sighing train instead?? *sigh*
 
I went to bible study and they said the Devil could be hidden as an angel
Corinthains 11:14
 
@zigi the apocryphes are stating that Lucifer, that is generally seen as equivalent to Satan, was initially the highest among the (arch)angels
 
@Vogel612 non-apocryphes place him at #3, after Jesus
 
well Jesus is not an angel, right ;)
 
8:26 AM
define "angel"
 
oh and then there's the whole story with lilith
 
Jesus is a spiritual being and a resident of the spiritual realm
 
@JanDvorak ascended creature created by god, as servant to him and mankind
 
@Vogel612 define "ascended", but Jesus surely fits
 
@JanDvorak now it's getting fuzzy, ain't it?
 
8:28 AM
"created by God" - check. "servant to god" - check. "servant to mankind" - check.
 
@JanDvorak alas, non-human
 
We have agreed with Jan Dvorak that I am the 3rd coming of Jesus
but he still thinks I am the devil
 
wut.
 
@zigi wat? No.
 
what the cr*p
 
8:29 AM
@Vogel612 Unlike other angels, Jesus was a human.
 
@JanDvorak and that is what sets him apart IMO.
I personally doubt, that angels know hurt
(meh backstabbing english knowledge)
 
As not an angel? It certainly doesn't put him below angels. Also, Jesus had a pre-human existence.
 
@JanDvorak now where are you taking that from?? (pre-human part)
 
@Unihedron, mornin
 
what
@ school atm
 
8:34 AM
@Vogel612 whom does Proverbs 8:22 talk about, if not Jesus?
g2g, sorry
 
@JanDvorak I thought you gotta go
 
@JanDvorak spam gone
 
There is a bug with the footer of meta
some 20-30px of white space
 
9:06 AM
@zigi search meta for a report and file one if there is none.
@JanDvorak Oh come on, why can't it be simple ;) What about the third component of trinity?
 
ok, done
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Q: Meta Footer Layout Misplacement

zigiI was browsing the meta footer and I saw a strange white space underneath the footer. Should it be there, and if yes, why?

 
Sam
9:21 AM
Morning.
 
moanin
 
9:39 AM
Experts Exchange had a redesign apparently, and when entering from google there's a message now saying "Enjoy your unlocked premium solution". Sounds slightly spiteful :)
 
Expert Sex Change?
I see why they did put a dash between the words :D
 
:)
 
btw, sumer is back!
 
When was he gone
 
@zigi when he had "legal issues" - yet again that is.
Aug 21 at 16:39, by SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: I HAVE TO SORT A LEGAL ISSUE OUT - SEE YOU LATER on meta.stackexchange.com
 
9:50 AM
@Vogel612 legal issues with the stack?
 
IIRC no more after the restraining order for harrassment.
see surrounding for more details..
 
Hm, can they put a restraining order on me for harrassment?
 
@zigi they'd have to have it approved before court, and without conclusive proof that's hard to do...
but yea, possibly.
 
10:41 AM
man, do the do this in West Europe too?
I've never seen such a thing in my country
 
@zigi I don't know actually..
maybe google-sensei can help..
 
What is concidered good reason for it
I see stalking is included
 
no clue, I am not a lawyer.
 
11:00 AM
strange, @JanDvorak is not here? confused \O/
 
spam ^^ gone
 
11:36 AM
Are meta.SO flags also handled by regular mods?
 
@rene last I heard by employees and SO mods
 
OK, I'll have to wait for my turn then...
 
> Stijn Aug 27 at 12:34 active
you'll have to wait for a while :)
 
Hmmm, that is hopeful...
 
12:07 PM
I'm back. Where have we left off?
 
12:23 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: TEST CLASS COVERAGE FOR LIST VIEW on salesforce.stackexchange.com
 
@JanDvorak I am not bringing myself to spot light but I see that people don't like being opposed constructively
and work on Emotion which is really sad
 
how is that message offensive to you?
 
like I said, if you think SO should be multi language there is no point in discussing it with people in the JS room - ask on meta and get feedback there (but I warn you, it likely won't be the feedback you are looking for)
 
^^^^
 
12:26 PM
-->
 
ok no more drama please
just continue on normal stuff
or abnormal funny
 
status-rejected
 
status-moar-drama
 
Llama.
 
12:29 PM
status-llama
 
aww
status tags
TIL
 
Gone
 
gone at -11
 
Myeah
 
Why? I see no activity?
 
I can tell you for sure
it is not me
 
@Bart offensive user desc
 
Meh
 
@Bart and avatar
 
12:37 PM
chat.stackoverflow.com/users/4030957 -> his name is in bulgarian language
it means "how stupid you are"
 
not really but it is not properly translated
so I have some feeling it is someone who is not Bulgarian
 
spam gone
 
isn't there a way the mods can detect those users instead of blaming some people?
I don't know why everyone assumes it's me when second mutes me as a consequence, you see I try to be reasonable enough and not stupid
 
mods can, but mods will be annoyed if your behavior forces them to act
 
12:42 PM
yeah but if it is not me, they have to check because I get screamed at for no reason
 
> I don't know why everyone assumes it's me when second mutes me as a consequence
 
@Unihedron I am explaining, there is this guy Second who decided he has to mute me for asking even the slightest question, while some people swear and are not muted. As a consequence, someone is entering the room with fake profiles with swastikas and people think it's me.
 
"mute me for asking even the slightest question" - no.
 
Fr*cking hell, are we still discussing that? Get over it already. Go do something else. If you feel there is a problem, contact mods or the team. But other than that, do we really need to discuss that for two freaking days?
 
^
@Bart depends. He still manages to keep renewing his mute
 
12:45 PM
Ok, I am not saying you guys are wrong, I try to imagine you in your situation, I know it pretty well that it looks the way that I do BS, but I don't. I am chilled, I am just in the search of truth. I am being stoned like Jesus for the trolling of others and I accept it, I just need to know why.
 
No you don't. You need to move on.
 
@Bart I can understand your irritation Bart, I think I did the mistake to write here
 
@zigi don't compare yourself to Jesus. Just don't.
 
@JanDvorak don't we all try to identify and act like him?
 
@zigi There's no subjective answer to that. You can't control what users think. One thing for sure is that if you're muted, you're muted. If other users are not muted, they're not. If you still believe in justice, drop it. Try jQuery.
 
12:49 PM
Stop discussing the past, period.
And listen to others.
And "stop discussing the past" also refers to WWII Germany.
 
@Unihedron haha jQuery is just idolized in my opinion
 
Try a stack overflow exception then.
 
jQuery(2+2).get(0) === 4; // I am amaze
 
It worked!!! He really went for an exception! :D
 
What is stack overflow exception?
 
12:56 PM
A good question being posted on Stack Overflow
 
It is delicious cake.
 
with a definite after taste of toxic waste?
 
Mmm.
 
> ☑ - obscure Futurama reference.
eh, the unicode checkbox sucks on windows
 
Switch to linux!
 
1:00 PM
I have a linux laptop next to me as well
work requires me to have both
 
VM's ftw.
as an aside, I understand @Bart s frustration and @zigi s POV...
 
FWIW, If he wants to talk an you don't wanna hear it, mute him @Bart.
 
and fix if anyone has some time, but it's still missing the problem statement
 
@Unihedron cv'd.
 
1:06 PM
but you're beating a dead horse @zigi
 
I'm not going to ignore anyone @Vogel612.
 
@LynnCrumbling thanks
 
@Vogel612 what are you talking about?
 
@zigi All that needs be said about that matter has been said...
there's no benefit in keeping the talk, because things will not change anymore
 
So I have to understand that SO is not a democracy but just some people with personal issues trying to prevail because they think they have the right to decide and impose censorship on others, and say it's not personal while other people argue with them?
 
1:13 PM
What's wrong with that? Welcome to the internet, grumpy people are everywhere.
 
For those out of the loop, mind giving a summary in a few lines?
 
30 mins ago, by zigi
@Unihedron I am explaining, there is this guy Second who decided he has to mute me for asking even the slightest question, while some people swear and are not muted. As a consequence, someone is entering the room with fake profiles with swastikas and people think it's me.
 
@Stijn bla bla unfair bla bla no democracy bla bla chat bla bla weeehhh
 
@Unihedron which room, the Lounge?
 
Ask him. He's not happy about it, for sure, users flag him for asking trivial questions which weren't welcomed by the chat users of the time; and he got muted.
 
1:15 PM
I see. Well, rules are rules I'd say.
 
Hm, true, I try to follow them, but I am learning in the process of time because I haven't been an active member until few months ago. People have their old opinion of me and continue doing this, and it pisses me because they want respect and at the same time I am treated like a mop. I try to be smart and not act upon it but even my tries to explain myself are treated as whining and behaving badly. So if you were in my place, what would you do, please give me a friendly advice.
 
Sam
 
@zigi I don't know who you are, but try staying away from the chat for a month or so and change your username. People might forget who you are.
 
@zigi move on.
 
1:18 PM
@zigi We're trying, but you're not listening....
 
that's all the advice you need right now
 
@zigi find a new room where users are friendlier.
 
@Unihedron, seems quite right
well I have nothing more to say, thank you
 
the js room is friendly.
 
I mean on the topic
 
Sam
1:19 PM
@Unihedron Flagginated.
 
\o/
 
@zigi There's also this problem you've been spamming our room with swastikas..
 
@zigi Say topic what now?
 
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 mins ago, by Second Rikudo
Either someone hates him enough to stalk him online, wait constantly for him to get muted, then summon swastikas once he gets muted to frame him
 
1:21 PM
@JanDvorak do you think I am such a duche?
 
yes
 
Okay honestly..
move this to a separate room, will ya?
 
Sam
status-I-was-joking
 
status-haha-nice1
 
1:21 PM
K, I'm leaving anyways
bye
 
[moderator-tag:status-wut] ?
 
Sam
Bye!
@Vogel612 [status-whatever]
 
Bye!
 
cya @JanDvorak
 
@Sam and that's all???
status-why-does-that-even-work
 
Sam
1:22 PM
status-yep
 
@Vogel612 [status-yep]
 
status-just-because
 
I feel slightly.... ...
 
Sam
@Vogel612 There mustn't be any other text besides the tag.
 
okay that explains... a little..
 
1:23 PM
Must be the only content in your message @Vogel612 just like oneboxing
 
@Unihedron well it actually has a oneboxing css class
 
Sam
status-I-see-status-abuse-ahead
 
2 mins ago, by Sam
status-yep
 
status-status-train
 
nvm
 
1:26 PM
Please don't make another this is why we can't have nice things happen... :)
 
status-this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things
 
status-standard-tags-can-do-the-same
 
/me gets smiting stick ready
 
they are just not that nicely red turquoise
 
translate: we still can't have nice things
 
1:28 PM
Red? You're kidding. Blue is the new red.
 
status-booo
 
status-mod-only
 
yea I know
 
they told me a number of times users will get it
but when?! when I ask you when?!
 
1:29 PM
@rlemon while you were away, feeds user went rampant and posted "This is why we can't have nice things" after each message
 
@Vogel612 I just remember people abusing the translate feature
c++ (to my knowledge) started it by making the bot say "PHP SUCKS!" then moving the message to PHP room :P
it was mildly entertaining for a bit, then the chat went ape shit with it
... and now we can't have nice things
 
status-doctor-it-hurts-when-i-do-this
 
@balpha huh, why that?
 
status-then-dont-do-it
brb
 
1:38 PM
Aug 26 at 12:28, by Marc Gravell
yes, yes, laugh at the stupid developer
 
well if the issue was from the provider, close as not reproducible?
 
welcome back @mehow
 
hello but im not baack
accidentally clicked the bookmark
gotta get rid of it...
 
hiya
 
1:49 PM
@mehow :(
 
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