@Shog9 I left sometime in the intervening 120+/- seconds there
@Emmett @Shog9 another bug with validation:
self-answer validation: bad title (I used [closed]) kicks the Q and doesn't validate the A. using a good title and a bad answer validates the A. It should validate both, no?
aka: bad Q, bad A - validates only the Q.
Expected: validates both.
note that definition of "bad A" is "not an answer" aka it fails the "This post does not meet our quality standards." portion
Oh wow, I just broke it :D
@Emmett when you're around I can give a repro of an edge case that needs to be replicated.
@Emmett I started the bugreport here, but there's a second part I couldn't demo but I could repro a couple times. youtu.be/Vy1ftZDNJqA the repro was to close the browser with that stuff "autosaved" and then repeat the process. The Answer disappears but still validates, after you check the box. ~~ Could be a Chrome oddity.
Pyongyang has often expressed upset with the US and claimed that they would willingly attack the US or any other allies of S Korea.
N Korea wants to have leverage to recover S Korea
At this point, even China is frustrated with the activities of Pyongyang, but we know that China and Pyongyang are in an uneasy truce right now, almost allies.
If Pyongyang has nuclear missiles that can reach the US, they can attempt to coerce us to give up our holdings in S Korea, thus making S Korea more accessible to invasion.
@ColeJohnson Also keep in mind that they can still terrorize international shipping waters (piracy or terrorism), Japan, China, Taiwan, and similar other local points. And if they load their nukes on a vessel, they can float them close to the US and launch them from there. It doesn't take much to wage war on a country with a coastline.
and apparently: "" "the test is aimed at coping with "the ferocious hostile act of the U.S." — a reference to what Pyongyang calls Washington's attempts to block its right to send satellites into space. ""
@jcolebrand yes, they can cause WWIII, but the minute they launch an attack on an ally (China, Japan, etc.), people will protest until we enter. WWI was entered due to protests. WWII was entered due to protests against Hitler.
@ColeJohnson you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how WWII happened.
We fought Japan because Japan bombed us. Then we attacked their civilian population on their homeland and they stopped fighting. We fought for several years to try and take their territory first.
@jcolebrand However, the minute they attack China, we will already be scrambling. Now, I'm not pro-Obama. I'm also not against his philosophy, but I am against his practices
@ColeJohnson Which had nothing to do with nuclear strikes
Go back and re-read what the current utilization of US Troops in South Korea is, and how those guys train.
Go back and see that we have a contingent of US armed forces in South Korea who are prepared to fight off a land invasion, or are ready to perform a land invasion in South/North Korea
@jcolebrand - belittling someone for their age / education level (well, for anything, really) is not really a conductive way to participate in a discussion.
I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. If Pyongyang tries to use nuclear warheads on any target aside from underground, the rest of the world will retaliate.
@jadarnel27 belittling someone who is mid-education for trying to talk above their education is conducive to reminding them there's a reason they have to take those classes.
I never tried to argue with someone of Jon Skeets knowledgebase because I was a freshman in college and didn't understand set theory.
No, it's not. It creates hostility, and distracts from the argument. Refering to that relevant information without belittling them, on the other hand...
Fiat is regulated while gold based is based on what the cost of gold is. Gold has the problem where its value can plummet, and unintentionally cause another depression
Fiat gives the illusion of control and that's what people without knowledge like. Not having to think
Say for example how the lack of regulation of the currency often leads to hyperinflation, which is what led to the downfall of the Weimar Republic, which occurred at the peak of the Great Depression in the US, thus contributing to a global depression. This also afforded the conservative Nazi party to take control in Germany.
@ColeJohnson you have to have a 50 year plan for fiat currency, not a 5 year plan. And ostensibly you have to make adjustments to that 50 year plan very gradually. We do not currently use such a system.
@jcolebrand My point is think of it this way: If there's a 3% inflation rate and you give stupid people a 3% raise every year you can keep them happy. With deflation, when do you cut their pay without pissing them off?
@jcolebrand I also think that, in general, there are more effective ways to point out someone's lack of knowledge about a particular topic than just referring to someone's age and assumed education level. Demonstrate their lack of knowledge by pointing out things they didn't know, or by arguing your own point. I'm sure there were things that you were "above your education level" on in high school. So that's not even a safe assumption to make about people.
@jadarnel27 True, but I am contesting his knowledge, and have been since he told me that N Korea wouldn't do anything aggressively militaristic.
@mootinator if they were only good for one use, that would suck.
@ColeJohnson I have actually corrected him on a few topics and been right. I don't look to fame. I look to doing a good job professionally. And using correct grammar.
@ColeJohnson I didn't contest it because of age. I used age to point out to as part of the discussion that you have a long lag period that we are in advance of you on. We obviously know more, as we've had longer to study these things. It wasn't an insult per-se but a reminder that some folks in here are on a different playing field.
@jcolebrand Right. I was just pointing out that your antagonistic approach wasn't a really great way to go about that. I just think it's incredibly unnecessary to insult people during a discussion. Then again, I've pointed things like this out to you before, and I don't really think you care what I have to say.
I've not found any evidence yet this morning that the US censored protests regarding WWI, and have never heard that before.
@ColeJohnson No, I'm saying you have no right to dictate to us the influence of world-powers potentially waging nuclear war because you haven't properly been schooled in the historical and current nuclear crises, or the international relations of those countries.
In general, censorship in the United States, which involves the suppression of speech or other public communication, raises issues of freedom of speech, which is constitutionally protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
This freedom, though fundamental, has also been accompanied since its enshrinement with contest and controversy. For instance, restraints increased during periods of widespread anti-communist sentiment, as exemplified by the hearings of the House Committee on Un-American Activities. It is also legal to express certain forms of hate speech so ...
The context of the phrase gave meaning to they and showed that I was referring to plural objects (pennies) and therefore "were" was the appropriate conjugation.
For the record: I engaged with him until he told me repeatedly I was wrong. I then pointed out that he's not yet completed high school, where such educational material used to be presented. In addition, I tried to understand his point of view by asking questions, as did mootinator, and he ignored our questions.
@jcolebrand That's probably true, since you were the owner of this room since before I was around. Let me restate that: you seem to be arguing with people more often than at any other point since I started lurking in this room.
When did you engage with me. You belittled me with my age. You doubted me repeatedly. I never said you were wrong. I said that your opinions weren't factually proven
1 hour ago I listed what I know to be the situation about N Korea. Apparently most of that information is rumor and opinion.
And not based in any way on fact.
@jadarnel27 well?
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You argue reasonably and I think I'd enjoy debating you if there were an appropriate subject, but I agree with @jadarnel27. You're often a dick. I concede that this is usually in response to somebody making a weak argument and so I sympathize a bit, but overall it feel unconstructive and annoying. You're like 5% troll.
@JeremyBanks I would estimate more aggressively at like 15%, but you may be right. I also don't engage in topics I know nothing about. I also have this unerring capacity to make a question sound like an undeniable fact.
I don't know how to right that last one except for the inclusion of a question mark (or multiple) at the end showing that it is in point of fact not a statement.
But in the face of the comment "N Korea would never use their nukes" I can't just let that go. That's so full of fallacy and the announcer usually doesn't understand the global situation.
Especially when I just shared a link "N Korea tests nuclear bomb"
Had it been a random comment and not immediately after my link, I probably would've ignored it
@mootinator my family was all for it. Apparently I've been 5% +/- troll my entire life
I used to read the encyclopedia for fun. My dad still tells that story. I decided one day to start at A and just read through to Z. I skipped a few things like Zebra mating habits because when am I going to sub Saharan Africa to find zebras when they're mating.
I believe ours was a 1994 World Book Encyclopedia collection. A handful of double volumes (like when you split S sections into S-Sh and Si-Sz or whatever)
@mootinator I've considered it. I hear the pay sucks. I like money.
It took a while, and as I mentioned I skipped a few things I deemed to be unreasonable, but yes.
I think the leathery texture of reptile eggs is neat in theory, but I'll never want to feel the slimy skin. I find the actual design of feathers to be most astounding, and the way they work is incredible. I was never much of one for the arts and humanities, but some of their essayists were remarkably brained individuals. Mostly political history was interesting, as were the physically based sciences.
@ColeJohnson I also attended the International Summer School on Grid Computing 2009 and was in the company of a great number of CERN researchers and students, and was given some very specific demonstrations on how the super-colliders work. I could probably easily get a guest pass and tour of the LHC if I were ever in the area.
I've got a few friends who are on campus even now.
I've done a lot more than a lot of people, but mostly I learned how to learn, and that made a big difference.
Apparently @JeremyBanks or @jadarnel27 would say I learned how to troll as well.
Ask me about pop-culture and I'm lost, however. That is one reason I never even contemplated "Who wants to be a millionaire" or Jeopardy even tho most of my friends and family kept pushing me to go, and even though I could answer every question before the folks on TV (in WWTBAM, Jeopardy I do about 40%)
I don't understand why he's above the track moving what appears to be the end of a passenger liner with no coalbox since he seems to be a coal-based engine
@jcolebrand I'm not abandoning our convo, by the way. I'm just on mobile, and it's tough to reply directly to messages. As well as it just being tough to do a lot of typing.
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8:34 PM
Is there an API that lets you open the answer form on pages where it is hidden (because of too many answers)?
user200500
Similar to clicking the "Answer this Question" link and clicking OK.
I'm writing the userscript, but I need a way to open the form. I was wondering if SE uses some sort of global object that has methods that can display the form (instead of having to do a bunch of DOM manipulation)
Hey powers that be. Last time I recruited a non-SO user to try and convince them it's the bees knees, merely having 20 rep didn't get them allowed to chat. Explanation was "caching, it's always caching". Anyway, Henrik made the jump, joined up, has some upvotes, and is still mute...
@Shog9 Thanks much, but I'm just...trying to do some recruiting to the "newer, better IRC" and people are hard to convince... this does present an activation barrier!
@HostileFork It will let him in eventually. You can always flag down a mod & ask for the profile to be refreshed, but there's no guarantee that'll be quicker.
@animuson I'ld vote for that. I don't know how easy the regex is to write. Maybe suggest a .NET non-code encapsulating whitespace remover before ?s ;-)