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It is /17 :P

SPArchaeologist

3:09 PM

@hichris123 thanks, I am still trying to understand if I was supposed to be in the set for SharePoint 2012 swag and anyway I wasn't in the mod run :P

@Braiam I've also been informed she has some helpers. :P

Oh, r17 :)

#17 is "17 moves to white checkmates" in chess notation +_+

I'm sure we were very polite ~~hostile~~ towards you

I know, right?

I never ever get flag banned in any other room :/

But that one? Dude I've been banned for random words

3:11 PM

Ok, posted something and left as soon as I could.

I mean over the course of the last 3 years I've been in there.

I used to be an owner in there, but they had this big drama fest.

"Unihedron to the decontamination room! Unihedron to the decontamination room please!"

@Jhawins I can make you a room owner of our room if you prefer. :P

SouravGhosh

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/30941517/2173917

D'awwwww

lmao

Nah it's cool. Someone might start bitching at me for using my room ownership powers, and if not they'll bitch at me for not using my powers :D

I just miss seeing deleted posts lol

3:13 PM

:P

Which room do you use

chat.stackoverflow.com/users/3622940/unihedron pick one

Fun fact: In none of those rooms I own (except those I create) did I ask to be RO, I was just made one :p

Q: The quest for the winter unicorn of the bash

I own the sandbox

SPArchaeologist

@nicael see the haiku here.

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There are many rumors running about the winter bash site. Many voices of an easter egg hidden somewhere. Beards growing overnight. Yet, one of the legend lies unspoken. The legend of an unicorn. A weaponized pony. A glimpse of glittering in the snow. Many have searched for the pony. Fewer hav...

Heh

3:16 PM

@Jhawins Me too! High five!

Don't be upset over the suspension, it will expire eventually. Just a side effect of having pests in the room.

Contrary to the policies in that other room, we trash messages that are involved in vamping activities, so.

Yeah only like 2 minutes left

Dude I wish those guys would ball up and trash the vamp shit

They automatically bin unformatted code with the bot and teach the vamp users to format it...

We can only wish :P

@Jhawins I saw the github issue.

They basically ASK for terrible terrible quality users lol

And the policy when there are vamps is "ignore them"

Basically

Not our loss, no point ranting about them. :P

Yeah but none of the other rooms are any better IMHO lol

3:19 PM

Life is a lot happier when you learn to care of interesting things.

Would you like a game of chess?

I hardly even use chat now. Just at work and only once in awhile

Chess? Maybe if I wasn't at work ;P

Ok. :P

Well, I'm not going to be able to compose that email without knowing where I live, and the GPS isn't helping

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: EXCEL IF STATEMENT. VLOOKUP,REPLACE by user3525087 on stackoverflow.com

Smoke detector?

Cool!

@Jhawins Yes. There are several chatbots in network control projects.

3:24 PM

@Unihedron How do you not know where you live?!

@hichris123 I... live in an apartment in a city where no one cares about where I live

@Unihedron lol there is probably a number on your door ;P

That number is your latitude

And we've been watching you from across the street @Unihedron.

@Unihedron ... how... do you not know where you live?

@hichris123 I really don't

3:26 PM

... how?

I mean, it's this building I walk out of and following a familiar route, gets to school, and then I sleepwalk back home after surviving the time at school

.... how?

I even get lost on the way pretty often

... how?

Never before have I been so astonished.

I'm sorry I disappointed you.

:(

3:27 PM

just open some neighbor mail, you will immediately know

The day @Unihedron broke @hichris123 ...

And then there's the fact that we never get mail.

... how? :P

Someone ban @Unihedron from the internet until he goes outside.

The bills come in electronic addresses and are dealt through automated payment systems.

@hichris123 There's nothing outside worth heading out for.

2

.........

3:29 PM

The air is polluted where staying out for over an hour will kill you, and radon on the concrete on the streets are strongly radioactive from being hit by the sunlight.

There is a whole world outside, @Uni.

That's all you need to know about the city I live in.

@hichris123 There's a whole universe around us, we're always missing out. :P

Radon? ... somehow I don't think that's correct... radon is more a home problem...

1 min ago, by Unihedron

@hichris123 There's nothing outside worth heading out for.

Wut

I'm starting to believe the gravatar is accurate. @Unihedron may actually just be a collection of pixels.

3:30 PM

:(

@Bart xkcd.com/1530

Hey.

At least you only have one imaginary friend.

@Unihedron that's bogus. I have plenty.

This conversation reminds me of this:

reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3456g9/…

Then there's the fact that I suck at any kind of sports, has topics about chess, coding, how much windows / google / microsoft / insert thing here sucks, and studies in a boys' school, why would anyone call me out? They're pretty frustrated with their own life themselves.

Heh.

Still waiting to graduate, then I'll apply for a full time job and have some kind of proper life to move on with.

@Unihedron yeah. You're the only one in the world who isn't all that athletic, loves chess, coding, debating nerdy tech topics, etc. Totally nobody out there for you at all ... Btw, you realize I have pretty much summarized the core audience of Stack Overflow, right?

3:36 PM

@Bart Well.

:P

Then again, I'm pretty athletic. So much so that I pulled a back muscle while making coffee. I count that as exercise though.

Well, that is pretty athletic for a pair of glasses... (who knew glasses had muscles!)

@hichris123 how do you think we keep our legs straight? Stamina.

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[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Mail management custom domain Google apps for work by Jelte Verbree on webmasters.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector ignore-

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3:49 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in title:: Ver gRaTiS:>> Mexico vs Ecuador En vivo Copa America 2015 by rokivai19 Jhb on patents.stackexchange.com

sd tpu

@Mooseman [:3595394] That message is not a report.

@SmokeDetector tpu

@Mooseman That message is not a report.

oops I broke something

3:50 PM

@ProgramFOX ^^ :o

it shouldn't show a double colon

bad fox :(

Oh, you see it :p

can we migrate this so I can answer it? stackoverflow.com/q/30913405/792066

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, bad keyword in title:: Ver gRaTiS:>> Chile vs. Bolivia en vivo online by rokivai19 Jhb on patents.stackexchange.com

3:58 PM

!!/rev?

@ProgramFOX 3fcb7df (ProgramFOX: Remove double colon)

okay the double colon should be gone as of now

xkcdBot

Today's xkcd comic (Hemingway):

Instead of bobcat, package contained chair.

We hit 1,000 commits to Smokey. :D

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user259867

The "vs" keyword is an instant hit. :)

4:10 PM

@hichris123 Only 24 to a round number! :D

@Unihedron More like 19. :P

#1000 was debugging. How boring. :P

@Braiam where?

[ SmokeDetector ] Url in title: bypass proxy server for out.pepgroup.co.uk:6060/app by user3933193 on serverfault.com

@hichris123 Yeah, and the cause was the most boring too: the most recent version of 'regex' doesn't work for Smokey's regexes so that broke the CI build :p

user259867

cv-pls How to add custom feilds in woowcamerc seller page by Vahid Heidari on stackoverflow.com -- horrible question that looks like spam even if it isn't

user259867

4:18 PM

Beginner web dev meets computer illiterate client by vokindorovoks on stackoverflow.com -- what happens next will shock you

@Braiam On Unix&Linux? Why not.

user259867

That actually might be a decent question for Programmers

Unix&Linux may go also - I guess Braiam wants it to get there.

@hichris123 Those links say they will email you, not the other way around.

@bjb568 Well... things changed. :P

4:22 PM

Then where's your source?

In room #4.

With a name that might start with an S and end with a 9...

@nicael SU or UL, doesn't matter, but SO is not the place

@Braiam But let's choose anyway, if we are doing it.

user259867

spam patents.stackexchange.com/a/13065

@home may I edit it out, then we nuke it?

Ah, I see, you are working fast anyway.

:)

4:30 PM

is cracksoft even a good domain?

user259867

It's cracksofts.com

[s]+ is implied :P

user259867

Why use character group for one character?

So anyone to nuke that spam? One flag left!

SPAM: patents.stackexchange.com/questions/13064/…

user259867

4:39 PM

Reported by Smokey already.

@HomegrownTomato not wanting to press shift?

@HomegrownTomato Oh, I didn't even see it. :P

@Braiam s+ does the same as [s]+ and doesn't require a single shift.

except the +, on AZERTY at least

my keyboard + requires shift, is on the = key

Q: How fundamentally different are push-pull and arrowized FRP?

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cybermonkey

5:23 PM

183

I want to study FRP in Haskell, but it's a bit difficult to decide on a library to use. Many seem to be dead attempts, some seem to have been resurrected (such as recent activity on Yampa). From what I read, it seems that there are two "kinds" of FRP: push-pull FRP (like in Reactive-banana) on o...

haskell frp reactive-banana yampa

> reactive-banana

Lance Roberts

Hope that thing gets an actual answer.

6:02 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Javascript - Change iframe src with switch by Skelex on stackoverflow.com

Infinite Recursion

@Unihedron Done :)

Let me post Shog's quote to push cat pic off the screen :P

Jun 15 at 4:01, by Shog9

Finally, sufficient spam to push cat pictures off-screen.

Didn't help. Shog should use moar words in his sentences.

6:18 PM

Jun 15 at 3:03, by SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Gold's Gym in western being retrained by tara kpkd on superuser.com

Just quote spam. :P

user259867

I have a "clear" button. :)

6:30 PM

I think that rude, unhelpful comments are bigger broken windows than bad questions. #StackOverflow @StackExchange

Tweeted by tvanfosson on June 5, 2015 at 12:47 PM

relay.fm/cortex/3

user259867

Same result, 3800 times faster with one weird trick from multivariable calculus...

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Create select(dropdown) with unlimit child by Tour Avril on stackoverflow.com

@hichris123 I think pathetic people that rant about that without doing anything helpful about them are super annoying.

Q: Javascript if (window.location.href) adding two urls

6:48 PM

0

Very simple question but can't find the answer. Can you put two url's inside if (window.location.href here is mine: if (window.location.href == 'http://example.example.com/support/default.asp') { } I need to add a second link... so i only want a div to load from that page and one more pa...

javascript html css if-statement

LOL

Reminds about summing numbers using jQuery :D

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A: Javascript if (window.location.href) adding two urls

It should be as simples as if (window.location.href == 'http://example.example.com/support/default.asp' || window.location.href == 'http://secondurl.com') { } unless I misunderstood the problem.

dv-plz - answering such questions......

user259867

Solution: hide those questions from view and delete them before they get those rude unhelpful comments.

7:03 PM

@HomegrownTomato That's a trick? seems like common sense…

@Unihedron ... saying that as someone who makes rude comments is quite... something.

@hichris123 nc

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in body: In how many ways it is possible to interpret a 10 word sentence containing only the word "buffalo"? by Ivan Barreto on math.stackexchange.com

@hichris123 I'm not going to counter that, and yes I make rude comments occasionally. But I never belittle people who make an honest effort asking for help with the proper disclosure and aiming at the proper tasks in their skill set. If anyone would like to change that by 1. giving a proper home for these people, or 2. tell me not to make a rude comment and in addition help OP, sure.

user259867

@SmokeDetector Well, what did you expect from that question?

7:11 PM

@Unihedron Don't make rude comments.

Case closed.

user259867

It may be, but common sense is still suspended (10 hours left), so for now it's a trick.
Seriously, I did find it surprising back in the days. Think of it: to find the 2nd derivative of f, you have to differentiate twice: no way around that. But to find the second (or 3rd, etc) anti-derivative, one integration is enough.

@hichris123 Sure.

Each time I see someone making a jab to "rude comments" I imagine those occasions where at lunch time, a bunch of workers are in the line waiting for being served and then someone tries to cut itself into the line. It obviously will wake the rage of those hungry workers

@HomegrownTomato meh, seems intuitive enough

And you have to do nothing for ∫f'(x)dx :)

@Braiam That doesn't really match the problem.

user259867

7:16 PM

E.g., going from f(x) = x^3 to f''(x) = 6x is two steps: you first get 3x^2, and then take its derivative. But in the opposite direction, \int_0^x (x-t) (6*t) dt does the job at once.

Is this the right place to clarify if something is considered spam?

user259867

@TinyGiant yes, it is.

user259867

@bjb568 And if that's still too intuitive, I'll add that this formula generalizes to (anti)-derivatives and derivatives of fractional order. As seen here

user259867

For example, my previous message is probably spam, because I'm promoting my blog in it. :P

@Unihedron lunch time = time to answer for good questions; workers on the line = people reading questions; guy that cuts the line = that someone that post a crappy question instead of reading the guidance; the rest is obvious

7:19 PM

cool

@Unihedron See, this is what's wrong with SO. Belittling anyone is inexcusable. I don't care how much effort they put in to their question. Be exasperated, but don't show it.

Why on earth is the character limit set at that anyway?

user259867

@Braiam But IRL you can't downvote or vote to close. On SE, you can do that instead, rather than in addition to.

Oh, I can remove the mentions.

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: bounded partitions and bounded signed partitions of integers by user75199 on mathoverflow.net

7:20 PM

@HomegrownTomato Or both.

@Unihedron because SMS?

@rene what year is it

@HomegrownTomato exactly, then people defaults to what they are used to do IRL

stackoverflow.com/questions/30928871/… and stackoverflow.com/a/28732204/4639281 the second one does attempt to look like it is providing an answer, but both answers (by the same user) are promoting the use of their companies services over the user trying to figure it out on their own

is mob behavior meets social pressure meets SE

7:21 PM

@Unihedron I dunno... 1996?

you know

@TinyGiant I'm reading the same post twice

replying to these peoples' tweets is a waste of time because that's not really what twitter is made for

@HomegrownTomato noice, me likey generalize!

@Unihedron remove the point

7:23 PM

@Braiam edited

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: 4x = -2sin(x)^2 + 4sin(x) + 1 by Itamar Reif on math.stackexchange.com

Also those are the only posts by that user

user259867

@SmokeDetector ignore- not offensive, and will be closed/deleted as a typo [I hope]

@Unihedron You do realize that CM's retweeted that, right? And you realize that instead of trying to make SO more helpful, you'd be spewing hate onto those trying to make SO more helpful?

Wait, Sampson was an SO mod? Never knew that.

@hichris123 Continue?

7:27 PM

?

user259867

@TinyGiant I don't consider it spam. More than one company is mentioned. Affiliation is disclosed. The posts are somewhat relevant. Maybe NAA if not relevant enough.

user259867

@Unihedron as in a "for" loop? for (var i=0; i<enough; i++) {SO.argue("about") }

@HomegrownTomato I flagged the first as NaA because it doesn't offer an answer, but the second doesn't disclose affiliation

@HomegrownTomato I find it stupid that we are arguing about this... I wish people would just be nice. :/

user259867

@TinyGiant That looks more like an honest omission. The post isn't really that promotional.

7:29 PM

I'm mindful of my actions and I treasure those who are also mindful of theirs.

user259867

@hichris123 Someone needs to make SO version of this

@HomegrownTomato 66% of the post is not even about the question, but rather about promoting the services offered, it seems like they are trying to skirt the issue of recommending just one company and in both posts the users company comes first. like "I recommend my paid for services (and these other guys services to get around the spam filter)"

btw @HomegrownTomato, there are communities where down/close voting is considered "rude", I think they would faint when they read a "rude comment"

And someone who rants about things without doing anything constructive about them isn't someone I'd fear to tick off and, to quote, as "spewing hate onto those trying to make SO more helpful".

For some definitions of trying anyway.

user259867

@TinyGiant Well, I presented my POV. If you think it should be flagged spam, flag as spam.

user259867

7:36 PM

The desired behavior is for folks to flag things that bug them, @Tim - with enough resistance to prevent consensus except in situations where something is widely believed to be offensive or abusive. — Shog9 ♦ Jun 15 '14 at 3:10

@HomegrownTomato Yep.

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: A Stream wrapper that executes all writes asynchronously by Luke Cummings on codereview.stackexchange.com

user259867

@Braiam I know, I'm from a site where having 0 downvotes is a mark of nobility of some sort. Even one mod carries it.

Kevin Brown

@SmokeDetector ignore-

I guess I'm asking for a consensus on whether or not it is ok to use an answer to recommend that users pay the answerer's company to solve their problems for them instead of figuring out how to solve their own problems. If anything I believe that this kind of content should be reserved for comments.

user259867

7:42 PM

@TinyGiant Well that makes it a different question then. A question about flagging as NAA rather than spam.

I guess it does

user259867

There's no universal recipe there. See: "XY problem", "doctor, it hurts when I do this",...

user259867

You should feel free to flag as NAA and let the reviewers judge.

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: How to change preferences in Chrome by modifying files? by Rajesh on superuser.com

flagged as NaA

user259867

7:45 PM

@SmokeDetector NAA, too

Junior devs learning how to ask better Q's on Stack Overflow from @OdedCoster. He's answered 9K of them! #ldntechweek http://t.co/qboUNaL7Am

Tweeted by Alexa on June 16, 2015 at 5:53 PM

fp I think?

seems a bit strange...

user259867

Too broad, but -1 will do for now.

user259867

Yeah, fp

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

user259867

People developing custom internet stores tend to have spam-looking content in their code, this isn't unusual.

user259867

7:53 PM

@hichris123 I see 7640 SO answers in his network profile, vs 7634 in his SO profile. A question he hasn't answered is how to keep these in sync.

user259867

9K would be totaling across the network

@HomegrownTomato I see the same as well. Strange.

user259867

@hichris123 The full fix alluded to in the email you got is something that, honestly, is pretty low priority right now

@hichris123 LOLWAT

user259867

1815 vs 1802 for me at present, still missing 13 answers.

7:57 PM

The whole conference for that purpose? Classes on learning how to answer on SO? I would get the best mark! :D

8:07 PM

how Oded did this odedcoster.com/Dev4Devs2015/#

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp- edit suggested, though LQ

user259867

@Braiam Nice. "Early user of Stack Overflow (August 2008)" feels incomplete without mentioning: 4 digit user id, 1583

For posterity.

user259867

Looks like a covert promotion of 7-11 chain.

what's the max number on the Richter scale? 12?

I think that anything on the +40 should just fracture the planet

8:22 PM

Good I didn't plan anything for the weekend...

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Does ksp auto-update? by Jeff on gaming.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector tpu-

user259867

@Braiam It's confusing, because there are several scales that are named inconsistently. Going by physical measurements, there is no neat upper limit like 12, but there are practical limits on what can be measured in what way. The gradation 1-12 is informal classification, like classifying pain by "feel nothing", "no big deal", "ouch", etc.

I don't think that the user meant a 48 richter scale earth quake but rather 48 x 10 richter scale earthquakes

user259867

Notable question Should introspection be encouraged in light of the new standards for graduation? by Shog9 on meta.stackexchange.com

8:29 PM

Interestingly enough it seems like the user thinks that all of the earthquakes in question will be richter scale 10

user259867

@TinyGiant They're cheaper by the dozen.

lol

The update has been delayed a bit due to some (awesome?) new projects we're currently working on. But I'll do my best to do it asap. — Stéphane Martin Jun 15 at 15:49

liar. Maybe I post the design images? (got them)

> So every few weeks, one of us would grab an analytics report and a pile of random questions and try to read the tea leaves...

that explains everything

@hichris123 Just NYC? Not the whole state?

8:35 PM

Also, what design update have they planned else? Their css sandboxes are filled with pt.so, programmers.se and chemistry.se currently...

Amateur earthquakes…

user259867

@bjb568 As a Central New York [State] resident, I approve.

Yeah, poor NYC tomatoes…

they suffer too much... all of them are made into salad, sandwich, or ketchup

mmmmmmmmmm…

8:56 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Euphemism for fundamental conflict between two things? by Michaell Alienn on english.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector your magic isn't black, so it will not work

looks like spam to me.

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu-

@SmokeDetector :) english.stackexchange.com/questions/133613/…

funny domain names no-www.org yes-www.org www.extra-www.org

A: Is it essential to type "WWW" when our design contains URL, or is it a matter of taste by now?

from UXSE, I see.

oh wait, was it on graphic design?

HNQ anyway…

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www.example.com and example.com are two different addresses. It is only a common convention for web servers to be configured such that both variants work the same. This convention is not universal, and some web sites will be set up only to respond to one or the other. You need to confirm with ...

@hichris123 wot?

chat.SE? I requested access…

9:19 PM

@bummi spam gone at -7

bummi

@rene not too bad

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp- funny, .repair is an fp in boot.repair@...

@bjb568 I thought you knew what room 4 was. Well, guess not.

TL?

Doorknob

yes

Q: Should introspection be encouraged in light of the new standards for graduation?

9:25 PM

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Summary With the introduction of new, simplified graduation requirements, we're preparing to shut down the venerable Community Eval review process. Years of waning participation, combined with a general lack of clarity as to how these mesh with the normal graduation process, have turned this sys...

discussion featured beta-sites site-evaluation

@Doorknob no

Remember that room doesn't exist.

It's LT.

@hichris123 It was pretty obvious when I went there…

user259867

9:36 PM

> Formatting Reputation on #stackoverflow: ~700 lines of c#. @kevinmontrose says #YoureWelcome -- Jason Punyon at 2:21 PM - 19 Jun 2015 via Twitter

user259867

of them 250 just for Jon Skeet.

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/7617527/1699210

cv-pls webapps.stackexchange.com/q/4802/45867

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

what triggered that?

user259867

The brand new keyword for Patents, "vs".

user259867

9:46 PM

The question was bumped by Community. I upvoted a couple of answers there (and flagged NAA, btw) and under another question with "vs" in the title. Should be no more Community-triggered fps.

user259867

This user launched a campaign promoting their product. Disclosed affiliation, but 6 identical answers is too many.

codementor.io/ama/questions/0680341859/…

cv-pls rec stackoverflow.com/questions/2134537/…

> I'm working on initial ideas for a new type of content on Stack Overflow, centered around local and in-real-life meetups. More to come soon about that, hopefully.

oh sorry @hichris123 to nicely put my cv-pls in between