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Sometimes it would even be useful to see that not only one close reason would have fit to prevent to ask a POB, Broad question asking for a resource (closed for rec) again without the rec part :/

bluet

don't bother sorting the garbage before taking it out

bummi

@bluet I often saw people asking the same junk again, avoiding the close reason, not aware of the other reasons, quick path to a question ban :/

bluet

4:29 PM

yes, sort the garbage as best as possible, but don't go digging through it after it's already taken out

Bart

Ahw, that was funny

Mooseman

Question: how often is too often to force a user to change their password?

bummi

@Mooseman POB

bluet

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Mooseman

@bummi Thus why I'm asking here rather than on SO! (Although it may be acceptable on UX...)

bummi

4:33 PM

@Mooseman unclear ... to broad ... context?

Bart

At each login would be too often.

bluet

@Mooseman for customers? for employees? for grandmas?

Mooseman

@bluet Volunteers

Bart

How about you don't bother them at all and just change it for them at a regular interval.

Lynn Crumbling

@Mooseman I have accounts that are enforcing a 90 day window... which is WAY to often for me.

Mooseman

4:36 PM

@LynnCrumbling I'm thinking about an algorithm that is never automatic unless there have been failed attempts to login.

bummi

5

Q: How often should passwords change?

I'm asking two very related questions As an admin what policies should be enforced regarding the frequency of password changing? I have an idea that users should be forced to change their password after a certain amount of time but a certain amount of login attempts. For example if 30 incorr...

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/15847337/1699210 REC, to broad

Mooseman

@bummi Both answers are fairly good there. I can temporarily disable account access without repercussions.

@bummi done

Braiam

ma.ttias.be/…

Andy

4:55 PM

cv-pls rec stackoverflow.com/q/28154226/189134

bummi

two votes for this one stackoverflow.com/q/2073244/1699210

Mooseman

Somebody voted to undelete this O.o

bummi

@Mooseman here a two votes :) meta.stackoverflow.com/q/284672/1699210

gtg cu l8er

Lynn Crumbling

@bummi voted

bummi

@LynnCrumbling thx

Mooseman

5:03 PM

cya

Lynn Crumbling

cya @bummi

@Andy voted

cv-pls needs one more stackoverflow.com/q/28173564/656243

ProgramFOX

done

Lynn Crumbling

nice!

Anyone here in NE going through the storm?

Mooseman

@LynnCrumbling What storm? :p

Lynn Crumbling

@Mooseman ha.

Mooseman

5:12 PM

Do you have much snow?

Lynn Crumbling

@Mooseman I lucked out.. I'm an hour and half west of Philly, so we only got a few inches, and virtually nothing last night.

Kind of a shame, really...

Mooseman

A shame? Not getting three feet sounds like a good thing to me!

The other people in the NE US I've spoken with said they also got essentially nothing.

Lynn Crumbling

@Mooseman Well, the forecast was for 4-8 inches.. which would have at least been something that I can throw with my snowblower.

bluet

@Mooseman a snowspiracy? according to the MSM this is a historic blizzard that we'll remember for the rest of our lives

ProgramFOX

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

5:17 PM

@ProgramFOX Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Mooseman

4-8" is a lot less than the forecast started at...

cya

Lynn Crumbling

later moose

Random though generater: I ♡ cygwin.

Bart

Really ... we're getting .rip domain names now?

Lynn Crumbling

@Bart Is that really aimed at what I think it is?

Really Important People?

:)

bluet

rest in peace?

Bart

5:28 PM

Requiescat in pace

bluet

for people you really like , you could build their rip site with drupal

Bart

www.software.rip ?

Lynn Crumbling

Sorry, apparently the sarcasm css wasn't correctly applied.

:)

@Bart home of vaporware and abandonware forever.

Bart

:D

Lynn Crumbling

got.you.rip

^ see what I did there? :)

bluet

5:33 PM

so could you buy a .rip of like a famous dead person and then make money from running ads?

Lynn Crumbling

@bluet Excuse me while I patent that business plan.

bluet

if you strike it rich, just don't forget to come back someday and star me

2

Lynn Crumbling

consider us even :)

So when's that TLD going live?

or has it already?

bluet

/updates my will to state that no advertising money shall be made off of the fact that I'm dead

Lynn Crumbling

name.com/domains/rip

^ those people look too happy.

They're thinking, "WE'RE GOING TO MAKE BOATLOADS OF MONEY OFF OF YOU."

Andy

5:41 PM

cv-pls rec stackoverflow.com/questions/21036936/…

Lynn Crumbling

@Andy done

@Andy This one is linked to, from that... and same idea: stackoverflow.com/q/19425482/656243

cv-pls ot-rec stackoverflow.com/q/19425482/656243

Jan Dvorak

5:56 PM

acidt.rip

Lynn Crumbling

Yeah, you get a start for that.

Lynn Crumbling

6:12 PM

s/start/star

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MERCHANT'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY by user2622247 on codegolf.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

cv-pls

ProgramFOX

voted

Infinite Recursion

6:31 PM

@ShadowWizard @Mooseman Sure, let's find something funny to pin :D

suggest-pls A non-Bart message to pin on the star wall

Frank

this

jk

Bart

@InfiniteRecursion ...

Sam

@InfiniteRecursion Brown waffle unicorns!

ProgramFOX

@InfiniteRecursion expects Bart's sock to enter and post something

Andy

@ProgramFOX Nice try Bart's sock.

7

ProgramFOX

6:36 PM

noooo, I got caught!

Bart

@ProgramFOX be a Rubik's cube they said. Nobody will suspect anything they said ...

Jan Dvorak

pin-pls this butterfly: ƐY3

Frank

@JanDvorak but... it's a dead one with the wings falling off...

Jan Dvorak

Be careful when touching it then

Infinite Recursion

but... I like butterflies <3

Frank

6:39 PM

I think it's mean to pin dead butterflies to the wall.

Bart

I prefer I-can't-believe-they're-not-butter-flies.

Infinite Recursion

:O

Frank

It's like you're starting a collection.

Andy

ƸӜƷ

13

That's a better butterfly

Frank

Nice!

Jan Dvorak

6:40 PM

Let's cross them: ƐӜ3

Frank

just looked it up: ducks eat butterflies.

You're prolly making Inf hungry

Bart

2

Infinite Recursion

I don't eat butterflies...

Jan Dvorak

btw... fy got á decent monitor (and I discovered a Sketchup bug on the same day)

Frank

@InfiniteRecursion ik, I was being evil

Infinite Recursion

6:43 PM

:D

Jan Dvorak

At least you're frank now.

4

Infinite Recursion

Sep 16 '14 at 18:40, by Frank

@InfiniteRecursion So now I'm 'Cooler Frank'? As opposed to a 'less cool Frank'? wat

^ He is the coolest Frank of the Tavern :)

Shadow Wizard

@InfiniteRecursion cool!

Jan Dvorak

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Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak *

Grammar is important.

Frank

7:03 PM

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grrr

Bart

Are you standing in a forest @Frank? Lots of other trees on the same network might cause that issue.

Frank

@Bart No, I was clicking through GL's reputation leagues.

I found that the fastest rep gain in one year was bstpierre, who gained 15,449 rep in 2011.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ASYMMETRIC INFORMATION PROXY by Ama on quant.stackexchange.com

Frank

Followed by me, who gained 15,174 rep in 2014.

Followed by Bamboo, who gained 12,698 rep in 2014

Bart

So you want him gone? How much money do you have?

Frank

7:15 PM

no other really fast gains.

@Bart uh? lol. he is gone, which is the problem...

@Bart and I have 3 US dollars.

xD'

user259867

Sam

@Fundamental lol

Frank

On GL, the fastest rep gain in one month was me, in August of 2014. 3,330 rep

Stijn

7:38 PM

Hey @AnnaLear sorry to bug you again... did you get a chance to reach out to Joe?

Anna Lear

@Stijn No, sorry. Haven't seen him pop back online yesterday. I'll forward him your email and ask him to just respond directly. Sound good?

Stijn

@AnnaLear yeah that's fine. How's the weather over there, as bad as expected?

Anna Lear

@Stijn Nah. NYC actually just got a pretty normal snow dump. Boston got the brunt of it, I hear.

Bart

Plot twist: Joe is in Boston

euphoria overlord

@Bart it's like the bounties we put out did absolutely nothing

Bart

7:43 PM

Hurray for bounties

euphoria overlord

@Bart Designed just like how they designed Congress: to do absolutely nothing!

Bart

It's those lazy devs @euphoriaoverlord. They can't be bothered. ... Anna's gone, right?

euphoria overlord

@Bart Also, what's this talk about sock puppets? I'm pretty sure every user here knows that sock puppets don't exist.

Stijn

@euphoriaoverlord you sure of that? How else does Bart consistently get on the star board?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Can't click application with Powershell by cterra on superuser.com

Bart

7:46 PM

@Stijn by being my glorious self

user259867

ignore... "Dammmmnnnnnnnn ...
If someone has a solution beyond me a little ...
Houuuuuuraaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh"

SmokeDetector

@Fundamental Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

SmokeDetector

8:06 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: How to append multipile values to a key in a dictionary Python by New Python User on stackoverflow.com

bjb568

Anna beat me

Lynn Crumbling

@AnnaLear What was the deal with that?

Rage quit?

Anna Lear

Who knows. Sometimes people go "oh noes I posted something dumb. better erase it."

bjb568

Probably

Lynn Crumbling

ha.

bjb568

8:08 PM

Some people no see teh delete butten too

Lynn Crumbling

@AnnaLear So are you working remotely today, or did you make it in?

Anna Lear

@LynnCrumbling I'm working from home. Subways weren't running till 9:30, I went to bed at 3, and it's cold out. All in all, not worth going anywhere :)

Lynn Crumbling

@AnnaLear ha. I had a conf call with Katie Hurley earlier; she said a lot of SE emp's were working remote today

Anna Lear

Yeah, that sounds about right. A lot of them live in NJ, too, which makes getting to the office even more annoying.

Lynn Crumbling

@AnnaLear At least you aren't in boston. ;)

@AnnaLear Someone told me that NJ got very little

Anna Lear

8:11 PM

I'm on the UES, but it's still a 35-40 minute commute on a good day.

@LynnCrumbling Yeah, but all trains and such between NJ and Manhattan were shutdown.

Also tunnels and bridges.

Lynn Crumbling

oh...

Anna Lear

We were --><-- close to Escape from New York around here. ;)

All NYC transit was suspended from 11pm last night (which was dumb, but whatever). They're running on a Sunday schedule today.

Lynn Crumbling

I guess a certain % of people can always revert to walking.

Anna Lear

Sometimes.

Sukminder

On Area 51. Is it OK to post suggestions on proposal sites? E.g. for VIM I would propose discussion on some way to handle posting of vimrc files. Should I wait until the site is up and take it on meta?

Lynn Crumbling

8:15 PM

@AnnaLear Did you see the revert that Brad Larson had to do on this post? stackoverflow.com/q/27045559/656243 ... from the same user.

Anna Lear

@LynnCrumbling lawl

@Sukminder Wait till the site is up.

Sukminder

@AnnaLear: OK, thanks.

Anna Lear

Although, what's wrong with just posting vimrc contents as code blocks? (Disclaimer: I haven't used Vim extensively at all.)

Kevin Brown

I have a feeling .vimrc files can be giant and that might be the issue

Anna Lear

Depending on the issue, excerpts should do fine? Kinda the same way how we ask for a small sample on SO rather than the entire repo.

Either way, a good thing to hash out once the site is up. :)

Sukminder

8:20 PM

My though is that it is that it would be best to have some collapse functionality - e.g. like with source examples on stackoverflow where one can choose to make it hidden. For vimrc, yes they can be huge. Problem is that users often do not know what is causing an issue. It can be wrong order of things etc. As such a excerpt is often not enough ...

Or even some attach functionality.

Kevin Brown

@Sukminder You might be able to solve this ahead of time: How is Emacs.SE handling config issues?

They appear to be using init-file as the tag for their configuration questions

Sukminder

@KevinBrown: Good question. I'll look. Thanks.

Stijn

@Anna thanks a lot for your help, the 'issue' has been solved :)

Anna Lear

@Stijn sure thing :)

hichris123

8:41 PM

@Braiam Yes, why?

Bart

9:40 PM

Quiet in here tonight

hichris123

@Bart Obviously your fault.

Bart

I shall leave in shame @hichris123

Stijn

Is he gone? Great, let the party begin!

hichris123

I didn't know glasses could move easily...

Sam

parties

bjb568

9:45 PM

parties

hichris123

btw @bjb568 User Experience election is over.

bjb568

my choices are doooooomed

Bart

At least one came in third?

bjb568

gr8

Bart

Wasn't the last one on SO a year ago? Will there be one?

hichris123

9:54 PM

Wait, I thought @Bart was leaving? Remember: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/89?m=2924988#2924988. ;P

@Bart Yes, and probably. shrugs

Bart

I did. From PC to tablet @hichris123

hichris123

hah

SmokeDetector

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rene

Buy a legal copy?

bjb568

> I have no Idea where is the crack. plz tell me.

Bart

9:58 PM

Don't be ridiculous

Kevin Brown

@Bart In theory, it should happen in February

Bart

Theory depending on ...?

Kevin Brown

That's assuming it happens around the same time as the last two elections

rene

@Bart witchery...

Bart

Figures @rene. There's always witchery involved

user259867

10:12 PM

Looked at my user prediction data... my MinorOtherDeveloperKinds.StatsOrMathBackground is 0.3 out of 1. Okay...

user259867

It also gives breakdowns by mobile/web, frontend/backend, Android/iOS, etc.

bjb568

"BackEnd": 0

"Android": 0.535764375876578,
"IOS": 0.450210378681627,

many nooooooooo

ducksonly.com oooooooooooh

"DatabaseAdministration": 0,
"Desktop": 0.4,
"GraphicsProgramming": 0.1,
"StatsOrMathBackground": 0.2,
"SystemAdministration": 0.3

hichris123

   "Android": 0.645584725536993,
   "IOS": 0.341686555290374,

lolwut

"DesktopOSX": 0.172554579284267,

hah

@Fundamental Mine is 0.2.

Sam

@Fundamental Cool, I never knew we could get that data.

hichris123

stackoverflow.com/posts/28150378/revisions...

Sam

10:21 PM

lol

Frank

junk discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/18943/…

user259867

@Sam This is a new thing, announced on the SO blog with details given by Kevin Montrose. Codenamed "the Providence project"...

Sam

Interesting...

user259867

Coffee is in beta now

user259867

Incidentally I started today by getting two double espressos back to back in two neighboring coffee shops. For science.

Sam

10:24 PM

"for science"... sure.

Frank

anyone want a login link?

user259867

@Frank The link I posted works, if one clicks "visit the site" and then the site name (or any other nav item).

Frank

oh I c

user259867

But it would be more direct to post this one. (Too late to edit though).

Hobo Sapiens

10:42 PM

cv-pls Link-only question with a dead link. stackoverflow.com/q/21901017/1864610

Kevin Brown

Is there a list of links/sites/whatever that the chat will try to onebox sitting around somewhere?

Frank

hichris123

...

why is that showing up as an image?

Doorknob

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/messages/2965780/history

He used an ! at the beginning

hichris123

ah

Frank

10:54 PM

Kevin Brown

one-cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/9054215/…

Frank

srry

was bein dumb

hichris123

4

Q: just for kicks, should the fumble rate of NFL teams be a normal distribution?

Yeah there's a lot of garbage statistics going around the internet re: the Patriots, but I was just curious what the well-versed in statistics have to say about this. The main question is - in what cases would distribution of season fumbles (y) by NFL team (x) be a normal distribution? In what c...