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rlemon

8:00 PM

like I personally am responsible for his being a sh*thead

bummi

@Sam fine :-)

Jan Dvorak

@rlemon is it worth trying to comment?

Undo

@JanDvorak leave 'em be

rlemon

eh, I'm just letting mods deal with it

Jan Dvorak

Blaze needs autorefresh

gunr2171

8:01 PM

NO, DON"T COMMENT

Undo

@JanDvorak It does. That can be done >:D

I was also thinking about an "only show from users rep < x"

@rlemon yeah, they know about it.

Jan Dvorak

let x = 2 in it

rlemon

@Undo I would love to have an update on things. I am singled out by this user, and this has been on/off for about a year- also has been taken off site and my social media has been spammed.

Jan Dvorak

(I kinda wish that actually worked in Haskell)

rlemon

albeit no off site so far this time

0

A: nodejs socket.io cannot connect to server?

I will slowly downvote you to 0 whatever it takes ;; even if it takes years cause i'm patient. your friends such as gruenbaum and so called fat and weird shaped head sterling archer will get the same treatment. Whatever it takes. Im tired about all you do to me. I even waited months to see if m...

Sam

8:03 PM

Should I blacklist "good luck to stack overflow developers"?

Undo

@Sam do it, and "slowly downvote" too, please.

Sam

kk

Jan Dvorak

EEEK stackoverflow.com/questions/27410785/…

Bart

Blacklist anything remotely positive towards the devs

rlemon

is it possible to like blanket "lock" my posts until he's stopped?

Undo

8:03 PM

@rlemon Give me a minute, I'll see what I can get for you.

Sam

@Undo As offensive?

Or just lq?

Undo

@Sam For now, offensive.

gunr2171

yes, offensive / hate speech

Jan Dvorak

@Sam offensie

Sam

>>add-b-a-off (?i)good luck to stack overflow developers

Pham

8:04 PM

@Sam Blacklist term added.

Undo

Because that's what these things are. And I kinda doubt that phrase appears too often in legit posts.

Sam

>>add-b-qb-off (?i)good luck to stack overflow developers

Pham

@Sam Blacklist term added.

Jan Dvorak

gone

Sam

Done.

Jan Dvorak

8:04 PM

I don't think he will post questions, but good point

bummi

@JanDvorak the question seem to need a view, all answers are ... none

rlemon

he only posts answers to my questions

Sam

@JanDvorak Well, just in case.

rlemon

-50	2 mins ago	removed	User was removed (learn more)

apparently he serial upvoted me as well?

Undo

lol

Jan Dvorak

8:05 PM

wow

rlemon

what an odd individual

Jan Dvorak

must've been a series of small misclicks

Bart

Hahaha. With friends like those, who needs enemies?

Undo

@rlemon Doesn't really fit in with his plan to slowly downvote you to zero

rlemon

he's confused as per his master plan

Sam

8:06 PM

Should I add anything else?

Jan Dvorak

With enemies like those, who needs friends?

Braiam

nah, he probably wants to make his account suspicious of sockpupetting so he gets suspended

Jan Dvorak

"I will downvote"?

Undo

@Sam Did you get the "slowly downvote"?

Jan Dvorak

maybe a double semicolon?

Sam

8:07 PM

I've only added "good luck to stack overflow developers".

rlemon

man my rep is going to look so funny after this :P

gunr2171

well, let this stand as a record that it's not your fault

rlemon

@Braiam make mine look suspicious?

Sam

@JanDvorak Really?

rlemon

0

A: OpenFileDialog/c# slow on any file. better solution?

I will slowly downvote you to 0 whatever it takes ;; even if it takes years cause i'm patient. your friends such as gruenbaum and so called fat and weird shaped head sterling archer will get the same treatment. Whatever it takes. Im tired about all you do to me. I even waited months to see if m...

Jan Dvorak

8:10 PM

@Sam I'm curious to see a legit post using these

Sam

k

gunr2171

do you think he's going down the list of questions by score desc?

rlemon

do you think he realizes what he's doing by bumping the low scoring questions?

gunr2171

no wait, nevermind

Jan Dvorak

He'll get tired soon

@rlemon We do ;-)

rlemon

8:13 PM

@JanDvorak knowing this troll, It could be a few hours a day for a few weeks before he gets tired of it

he doesn't seem to have much else going on

gunr2171

good job Pham!

Sam

Oh yeah. Forgot about the auto-censoring.

Bart

Wouldn't be surprised if he read chat ...

Given the changes

Sam

@Pham del

Gone.

rlemon

damn your bot catches them faster than my interface updates :P

nice bot

Sam

8:16 PM

:D

rlemon

got the source open?

Undo

0

A: How to solve javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException Error?

Stack Exchange Stack Overflow log in QuestionsBadgesUnanswered up vote22down votefavorite How to solve javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException Error? java servlets paypal vpnsslhandshakeexception I connected with VPN to setup the inventory API to get product list and it works fine. Once I get ...

LOL

Someone might be copying stuff

Sam

@rlemon Yep.

Undo

Gonna call that abusive.

rlemon

nice that is the first C# bot i've seen for the chats

starred

Sam

8:18 PM

Thanks.

Jan Dvorak

Is auto-deletion of orphan accounts on autonuke live?

bummi

could it be appropriate in such a case to protect all questions of rlemon?

rlemon

that is what I'm asking

Undo

@bummi there's not an easy way to do that.

rlemon

15 mins ago, by rlemon

is it possible to like blanket "lock" my posts until he's stopped?

@Undo ohh well. it was a good idea :/

Undo

8:19 PM

Yup

Sam

Hmm...

That may be possible.

with Pham.

Undo

Huh?

rlemon

thankfully I don't have email notifications enabled ;)

Sam

But, by the time I've implemented it the troll will probably be gone.

Bart

How would that be possible with Pham?

rlemon

8:21 PM

Pham has secret mod abilities?

Undo

@Sam if you're going to lock it, you need mod creds. If you're going to protect it, you need mod or 15k user creds.

Bart

Plot twist: Pham is running for mod in the next election

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jadarnel27

What the what?

Sam

Oh.

Jan Dvorak

@Undo Or you can just report any activity on these posts

jadarnel27

8:23 PM

You might be able to use Pham to get his posts auto-protected.

Sam

I thought you guys were talking about catching all answers on a q of a specified author.

Jan Dvorak

@jadarnel27 Unfortunately, I'm having an "embrace the sand" day today :-/

Sam

(Pham did have auto-flagging capabilities.)

Jan Dvorak

@Sam eh. Autoreport is better

jadarnel27

But you might get Pham suspended in the process.

Sam

8:24 PM

Yeah I know. It's now removed.

jadarnel27

@JanDvorak Haha, perhaps it's just that kind of day.

Jan Dvorak

if(answer.question.owner in protectedGuys) then report {reason:"new answer on a #{answer.question.owner.name}'s question}

Sterling Archer

I really hope the mods can intervene on this. He targets rlemon mostly, but he also named me and Benjamin on his 'hit list' and the last time he did this, it lasted for several weeks tirelessly.

rlemon

did I mention I was harassed off site by the same user? spamming my g+ inbox with profanity before I locked all of my social media?

because if I didn't. I did now.

Jan Dvorak

@rlemon report him on G+

rlemon

8:28 PM

I did

multiple times

g+ doesn't care

Jan Dvorak

maybe you have to report his profile instead?

Sterling Archer

He creates profiles with Tors. Delete one, another is up in under a minute

rlemon

@JanDvorak did

believe me I reported him as much as I could

Jan Dvorak

@SterlingArcher He said it wasn't tor

rlemon

it went on for weeks before I decided to lock down my accounts

(I didn't want to have to hide myself on the internet due to one bad apple, but it seems I must :/)

Sam

8:30 PM

@JanDvorak Lies?

Jan Dvorak

@Sam dubiably

Sterling Archer

Do the mods even have the power to stop it? I personally don't want to have to flag something every time and I'm sure @rlemon doesn't want to either

It's a serious issue of harassment

rlemon

they are new accounts.

I doubt the mods can block them preemptively

Jan Dvorak

SO's filter seems to have learned this guy

Bart

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Do we really need new users? We have plenty. Lock the doors.

jadarnel27

8:34 PM

Lock them out, or lock us in?

Bart

The former. I'd say we're pretty much part of the furniture by now anyway @jadarnel27

bummi

@Bart I hope you are joking

Jan Dvorak

I hope it doesn't get through

Sterling Archer

@Bart I'm ok with that <.<

Bart

Sep 3 at 9:35, by Bart

@lostsock I don't do jokes. 100% serious 100% of the time.

rlemon

8:35 PM

he's got glasses, don't you know people with glasses are always 10% more serious than your average person?

Sterling Archer

That's a solid amount of extra serious

bummi

himpf o tempora o mores :-(

rlemon

and being 100% glasses, he's (10 * 100)% more serious than your average glasses wearer

Frank

I like Lifehacks.

jadarnel27

The other side of that coin is to never listen to, or believe, anything @Bart types, @bummi.

Sterling Archer

8:36 PM

That kind of serious can only lead to a life of Al Gore

Undo

Okay, Blaze autorefresh incoming

Jan Dvorak

He doesn't have glasses. He is glasses.

bummi

@jadarnel27 I was already suspecting ;-)

Sterling Archer

#MindBlown

Jan Dvorak

is there even such a thing as an AI gore?

Bart

8:37 PM

@jadarnel27 how dare you!

Sterling Archer

I think they used it in the movie Ninja Assassin

Bart

So not brown

Sterling Archer

Directed by Al Gore.

Produced by ManBearPig.

rlemon

Sterling Archer

It's.. It's watching me..

gunr2171

8:39 PM

Good, it's watching you. So it's not watching me.

Keep stealing its attention.

Undo

Blaze now has auto refresh, erwaysoftware.com/blaze/#site=stackoverflow

Sam

^ spam

Undo

stackoverflow.com/questions/27431960/…

had to

Bart

@Undo and I got my first flag out of it :D

Undo

aw, too late

Sam

8:40 PM

@Pham del

gunr2171

> Removing as requested... – Undo 4 secs ago

Sam

Gone already.

TGMCians

kaboom!!

Sterling Archer

Flagged the crap out of it.

Undo

@Bart You can click the authenticate button, then it'll let you flag right from the app

Sterling Archer

8:41 PM

Ok back to my Twilio App

gunr2171

@Sam, i'm guessing only certain people can give commands to Pham?

rlemon

@Pham help

ohh well

I'll just read the source code

Sam

The prefix is >>

>>help

Pham

@Sam See here for a full list of commands.

@rlemon See here for a full list of commands.

Sam

>>help list

gunr2171

8:42 PM

>>make me coffee

rlemon

@Pham del

Sam

Pham has 3 classes of commands. Normal user, priv and owner.

rlemon

see >> would have made more sense for an invocation pattern than !! for @CapricaSix

she constantly corrects people who get excited

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sam

lol

Undo

hah

Chose !!/ for Smokey

Jan Dvorak

8:43 PM

We can stiill change that if you really want to

I guess

rlemon

I don't think people will take well to it

Jan Dvorak

true

rlemon

I can propose it in a issue, but it will likely be buried

everyone is used to !! in the JS chat

jadarnel27

@Bart I didn't mean it!

I take it back.

I take it all back.

Jan Dvorak

We should really just do "OK cap, "

Sam

8:47 PM

>>add user 167434

Pham

@Sam User added.

rlemon

I think people should have to ping her, but I know that wasn't a popular suggestion

!!afk coffee

Sam

I've gtg for a bit, I'll leave you guys to hold down the fort.

bummi

@Sam thanks for being here

Brad Larson

@rlemon - I'll tell you what I know, even though our friendly troll reads all these chats. This is Sufi Developer / dondom / myth. It is not Sumer Kolcak, the troll who preceded them. They coopted that name in an attempt to confuse people further.

Jan Dvorak

8:52 PM

Oh, sweet

WAT askubuntu.com/a/536074

Brad Larson

Sumer Kolcak was actually entertaining as a troll, despite creating dozens of accounts per day from various cloud hosting services. He never really threatened anyone, although he did have a restraining order placed against him by ETrade for going after his broker.

rlemon

@BradLarson ok well myth was in fact the one who took it off site. I mistakenly assumed they were the same user

so that is good to know

@BradLarson "This is Sufi Developer" was also the "Barack Obama" account yes? the one with the free Palestine picture?

(if you can disclose such information that is)

Jan Dvorak

Will a legal action be raised against this guy?

Brad Larson

@rlemon You have always been targeted by the same person (Sufi Developer / Barack Obama / whatever). They've just recently started calling themselves "Sumer Kolcak" because I referred to that troll once in chat. They read the chats and try to find new ways to annoy us (I'm sure I'll start getting fun messages myself soon on Twitter, etc., like last time).

They're also the ones behind the trolling of the anti-spam bot here.

rlemon

if at all it comes to legal action, I am 100% for it. however I don't think there is much grounds here.

I could call it harassment but I assume that means little on the net for this type of crap

hichris123

8:57 PM

Oh great, this guy is back?

yep

Hi Chris

123

testing

The thing is, I've had conversations with this individual where they repented, apologized, and stopped trolling shortly afterward. However, someone would say something in the JS chat that would set them off and the trolling would start anew. Whoever they are, I think they need help. Felt the same way about Sumer.

bjb568

8:58 PM

Given what happens in that chat room, I can see why. But getting outta there seems more logical.

hichris123

We need a @hibart123.

rlemon

@BradLarson can you see deleted messages in here without being a mod/owner here?

bjb568

@BradLarson Maybe they need mental help or something…

Brad Larson

@rlemon Me personally? I can on SO, but not on the few SE chatrooms (like this one), since I'm not a moderator on Meta.SE.

Jan Dvorak

Which of those two was behind the swastika flood?

Brad Larson

9:01 PM

@JanDvorak Sufi Developer / dondom / etc. Sumer Kolcak mainly posted amazing rants about how the FBI was coming to get his back taxes.

Like I said, at least Sumer was an entertaining troll.

rlemon

@BradLarson I invited you to a room, made you owner, posted and deleted a message if you get a chance to view it

just a question I don't want public

Jan Dvorak

@BradLarson Thanks. I was torn between Sufi and a third person. Is Zigi == Sufi?

Brad Larson

All I can say is that this user impersonated a lot of people the last few times they did this (like they're trying to do with the Sumer Kolcak accounts).

rlemon

@BradLarson speaking of which, it's been ~ a year since they assumed my account and the 'chat user' still exists

how long, if ever, does that go away?

Brad Larson

@rlemon This on SE or SO? Have a link?

rlemon

9:08 PM

account in question

it's on SO

Undo

@Brad might try refreshing from parent site, doubtful it'll do anything

Pham

Low Quality A (100%): Have you tried to install mysql-client too?, by Peter, on serverfault.com.

Brad Larson

Do chat accounts normally hang around when the main is deleted? That seems odd if so.

rlemon

iirc they do for a little then should be purged?

I remember someone telling me that when this first came up

I think I've given it a fair amount of time ;)

Brad Larson

Gone now.

rlemon

9:12 PM

thankyou very much.

Brad Larson

Now that I've talked about this in the Tavern, I'm looking forward to another round of these:

3

and having to block a few more Twitter accounts.

rlemon

ohh wonderful

Jan Dvorak

Do we have a pham term for those words, @Sam?

Sam

@bummi Np.

@JanDvorak Lemme check...

Jan Dvorak

The lookup function would have been useful here, wink wink ;-)

Sam

9:19 PM

@JanDvorak Nope.

Indeed. ;)

Undo

Ya know, someone should go build a thing that "checks" to see if a post will pass Pham/Smokey's regexes. For the spammers to use.

Then we... ahem do other things with the titles they give us. Like post 'em in a less obvious room.

rlemon

and fill it with malware?

Undo

@rlemon Another good idea!

ElfSlice

@Unihedro renegadekid.bandcamp.com/album/xeodrifter-ost

Pham

Spam A (26.9%): Just use this and that's all..rufus.akeo.ie/It works for meRegard..., by Umair Shafi, on superuser.com.

Jan Dvorak

9:21 PM

^?

Undo

Where can I get some ready-to-serve malware? Ideally something really nasty.

rlemon

@Undo Norton

Pham

Low Quality A (47.2%): * * *** ****** ************* ****, by **** *********, on gaming.stackexchange.com.

Jan Dvorak

@Pham clean

rlemon

aww I don't have enough rep to DV it

Jan Dvorak

9:24 PM

@rlemon there's no point downvoting spam/offensive posts, just flag.

rene

@rlemon that ^^^

rlemon

I know, and I did.

but still.

Patrick Szalapski

Hi all, I just came here to vent about

140

Q: Shouldn't "off-topic" be only about... off-topic?

A related question/discussion point to this one posted just now, but with a completely different rationale. Whenever a question is closed because it doesn't contain SSCCE, or specific code, it also gets marked as "off-topic". I would argue that this is confusing, especially to new users, since t...

Jan Dvorak

bump ack

Patrick Szalapski

The review system strikes me as a bit confusing to both new reviewers and questioners who get closed, as well as future visitors. Please join me in upvoting that question and its top answers if you agree.

hichris123

9:29 PM

@Undo ... now I want to know...

Jan Dvorak

@PatrickSzalapski been there, done that. NEXT!

is this an answer? superuser.com/a/222346/176340

rlemon

no, flagged

gunr2171

should be a comment

Jan Dvorak

The newest answer could use some downvoting

Bart

Is that question even on-topic?

rlemon

9:34 PM

I can't :(

but I agree @JanDvorak

0

A: Can the light at the bottom of an optical mouse damage your eyes?

Absolutely stupid thing to do! Are you playing with your or other people's eyes? Remove the optical mouse from the Xmas tree right away! It damages the eyes, of course it does. Looking into the light of LED, lasers, etc. damages the retina and can cause blindness in the long run. It burns the fov...

this is a very poor answer citing no actual information

Jan Dvorak

VLQ?

rene

Isn't that from the NPR era?

Jan Dvorak

bad tag: asynchronously

Braiam

@JanDvorak as a concept it could be useful, but knowing how humans tend to bring chaos where there is order, I expect a mess of posts

Jan Dvorak

Let's just say that "asynchronously" isn't a noun ;-)

Sam

9:39 PM

>>add tag stackoverflow.com asynchronously chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/2769651#2769651

Pham

@Sam Command not recognised.

Sam

Darn you.

Braiam

smacks @Pham around with a large trout

Sam

He didn't like the link param, for some reason.

Braiam

5

Bart

9:49 PM

@Braiam we have a room for trout smacking

jadarnel27

@Bart That's...what she said?

Bart

chooses to remain silent and not voice the possible replies

jadarnel27

There hasn't been a new What If xkcd since November. Frowny face.

Bart

Quick question: what should I do with this stackoverflow.com/questions/27424397/… I know what the problem is, I've verified the cause, but only because he shared the project. Should I just let him delete the question? Provide an answer to it? It's going to be difficult to express the relevant information in the question for him.

Frank

How easy is it to add a plugin like adobe shockwave flash to an SE site?

rlemon

9:54 PM

you add the plugins to the browser not the website

Frank

@rlemon It's imbedded in music.

See music.stackexchange.com/questions/22085/…

rlemon

it's still the browsers call

jadarnel27

21

Q: How to support questions about development environments that rely on more than code alone?

Given that most of my work currently revolves around Unity, I have recently become a bit more active in the unity3d tag. Most of the questions use some form of C#/UnityScript/Boo and are simple enough to answer. Problems arise when it's not necessarily a script that exhibits a problem. A lot ca...

discussion stackoverflow asking-questions downloads

(sorry, I couldn't resist)

rlemon

@Frank ohh you mean embedding flash on the answer

that is completely different ;) and I have no clue

Bart

Yeah ... that @jadarnel27 .... sigh

Frank

9:55 PM

@rlemon Would it be a hassle?

Bart

I'm still pretty annoyed they didn't migrate it upon request

Jan Dvorak

I hope it's not possible

Doorknob 冰

@Frank It would sure be annoying to those of us who don't have Flash installed.

jadarnel27

@Bart Oh, really? That sucks.

Frank

@Doorknob冰 see meta.lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/1151/…

rlemon

9:56 PM

@Doorknob冰 good think youtube offers a HTML5 fallback

@Frank short answer: include it as an image

music.stackexchange.com/posts/22089/edit

you can see how he did it here

Jan Dvorak

It would be much more annoying to those who do have flash. The applet could have an infinite loop...

rlemon

@JanDvorak I would like to imagine SO disabled 'autoplay=true'

Braiam

@jadarnel27 shouldn't that be migrated

Jan Dvorak

@rlemon In code, I mean

rlemon

fair enough

Frank

9:58 PM

@rlemon axctually, it's just a link.

jadarnel27

@Braiam Sounds like Bart tried to get it migrated, and was brutally turned away by oppressive moderators and small-minded SE staff.

rlemon

well I'm off. I'll be back later. Thanks for the help all (cc @BradLarson for the info )

@Frank and it seems to onebox ;)

/afk

Bart

@jadarnel27 insert Godwin

Frank

@rlemon yeah, how hard is that to set up on an SE site?

rlemon

@Undo might be able to help. Seems like a site moderator kinda thing

I do not know .

/really afk

Frank

10:00 PM

@rlemon k then

@Doorknob冰 is a mod.

Do you know, @Doorknob冰?

Doorknob 冰

@Frank If there's enough support on the per-site meta, sure, staff could implement it. But I really don't think it's necessary for Lifehacks.

jadarnel27

@Bart Ouch.

Frank

@Doorknob冰 ok.

thx

Bart

@jadarnel27 I'll accept my suspension I guess

jadarnel27

nods

Okaybye.

Bart

10:02 PM

:D

Shog9

@rlemon worse, he overlooks the fact that Xmas trees themselves are damaging. Harmful X-rays emitted by Xmas trees are the leading cause of radiation burns over the Xmas season, closely followed by Xtended warranties on Xmas gifts.

Jan Dvorak

Yet another reason not to celebrate Xmas then, I guess

Except to finally change my owl mask for something newer

Night all.

Night

Night

10:13 PM

Night

Sterling Archer

10:23 PM

@BradLarson I'm sorry he's targeting you too :(

Brad Larson

10:40 PM

@SterlingArcher If you can't take people writing obscene rants about you, being a Stack Overflow moderator might not be in your cards. It's always a fresh delight to see what responses I get to my moderator messages every morning.

Braiam

@BradLarson heh, that many love letters? you are a mischievous man :P

Undo

11:00 PM

@hichris123 We're gonna make a website that checks whether a spam title will pass Smokey/Pham's regexes. For the spammers. I have no problems with giving spammers some entertainment in the form of endless popups, whathaveyou :D

hichris123

11:18 PM

@Undo lol

Frank

11:31 PM

@Inf lifehacks.stackexchange.com/questions/1626/…

There's one for ya.

Not disgusting at all. :/

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