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12:00 AM
Anyone still around for more beta testing?
 
@TylerChacha I'm around for more beta looking at
 
In this round, I've added keyboard navigation to the documents menu. Press M to open the menu, Up/Down to Control, and Enter to open the document
hmm
hold on there a sec
 
m doesn't do anything for me
 
damn .. updated the wrong version
I need to put the production version somewhere far away from the dev version..
 
m works, up down nav works, enter works
lol, oh no
 
12:04 AM
remember all those keys also work on regular posts
there, my FTP user goes straight to the dev folder
the entire way Triton does keybinds needs to be relooked at
along with the posts infastructure
 
oh hell, now my coworker is getting signed up for SO ... should I be worried? I doubt he'll find his way to the chatsss
 
12:20 AM
@drachenstern At least not to chat.MSO ;)
 
@drachenstern get his sn and be careful ;)
actually what is his screen name ... i'll make sure he finds chat.so ;)
 
lmao ... actually atm he's got a userXXXXXXXXX screen name, I doubt he'll be on that frequently
 
hmmm i have about 20 more mins on the train , and about 20GB more to restore to mysql ... which do you think will win
 
12:40 AM
how long ago did you start the mysql restore? and how far along is it?
(;
I bet the train won.
 
1:03 AM
@rejoice ~ see my response
@room ~ I can haz bonus rep for awesome FHCs?
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Q: super flair updated when?

drachenstern Is it just me, or is the math off? Perhaps it's my math that's off? Been known to happen before. PS: Can I have bonus points for awesome FHCs?

 
1:32 AM
anyone alive?
 
@drachenstern It's cached for a several-hour period of time, if I recall correctly, and that's a dupe. :P
@TylerChacha Seemingly so
 
I am not convinced anyone is alive
 
Thinking about writing a blog post up on 102content.com/triton/blog about some interesting ways Triton is structured..
 
1:49 AM
@TimStone I posted an answer along those lines, then realized that the badge you got just an hour ago brought you up to 10 on Meta, heh. :P
 
 
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2:56 AM
Wow, the list preview on the client side is super different than the way the server interprets it, hrm..
shakes fist at WMD and makes a mental note to look at the source code
 
...I think I'm going to smack one of my clients...
 
@TheUnhandledException That might be bad for business. Let us do it for you.
 
@TimStone Please do! Were you here Friday/Saturday when I was debugging a cart dropping issue?
 
Yep, the one that no one else could repo?
 
yeah
so I built this new module which tracks all HTTP headers to/from the site it's installed on
Customer sends in a new ticket with a new issue, saying she cleared her cookies. She said she cleared her cookies before also
so I use the new system to look at the headers
she has a cookie for a session which was created Nov 9th and was modified moments after she submitted the ticket
 
3:04 AM
Hello Josh
 
Haven't seen you around
 
Hey @Tyler. I am still up to my eyeballs in work :-(
I can't chat as much as I'd like, I just had to vent
 
@TheUnhandledException Did you explain to her that clearing her cookies didn't mean dusting off the chocolate chip?
@TheUnhandledException The solution is to next time have them try the site in Opera.
No one uses that browser anyway, so there's no cookies to clear.
 
LOL!
Anyway, how are you doing @Tim and @Tyler?
 
3:06 AM
</unnecessary-opera-bashing>
I'm doing alright I suppose
 
I've been developing away with 102content.com/triton/dev/nocache.php
It looks good (obligatory blog link: 102content.com/triton/blog)
 
Hey! Spiffy new layout for the 10k tools close page!
 
I have to finish this new TTF upload tool tonight. I am far behind schedule :-(
 
status-whiny
 
3:11 AM
@TheUnhandledException I decided that it'd be a good idea to start changing even more code...so that's added to my plate, but. Good luck getting caught up!
 
I wonder why I didn't get the precognitive badge on SO, but I did on the others?
 
I didn't even notice that badge, heh
 
@LanceRoberts Hah. Must have been a Minority Report
 
New lyout can be found on SO and meta. I don't have the mojo elsewhere...
 
I guess no one has got it on SO yet even though it's in the list.
 
3:15 AM
@dmckee I don't have it anywhere, unfortunately, heh. ;)
 
People keep popping in on my badge name suggestion to say why it's no good for really odd reasons.
Conclusion: I need to participate on meta more.
 
sorry, discussion with my boss, brb
ok back
@TimStone LOL, I know that feeling.
 
you work at an office at 10PM ?
 
@LanceRoberts precognitive badge eh? I'll have to check that out, didn't know about it
@DanGrossman Working from home. IMing with CEO
 
3:23 AM
Is it just me or are there a significant number of people on area51 who don't understand the difference between a "great off topic example" and "not a good example"
 
It's a late night for me, I have mountains of work
@mootinator I'm not always clear on the distinction :-)
 
I'm unclear on why people put huge effort into area51 proposals... if they have all the support and people, why not start a Q&A site immediately instead of waiting to use SE software?
 
@DanGrossman Not everyone has the time or talent necessary.
If I had a good enough idea, I'd probably keep it to myself though :)
 
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SmugMug

Proposed Q&A site for existing and future SmugMug users who want to get the most out of their SmugMug accounts, from Basic through Pro users to 3rd party developers working with the SmugMug API.

Currently in commitment.

 
@DanGrossman Ah, yes. It does seem a little off-topic. Heh.
 
3:28 AM
OK. I am going to dive back into my code. Hopefully I can get caught up, I am in MSO chat withdrawal :-) Catch you guys later...
 
@TheUnhandledException See ya
 
I wish I could ask.
 
I just can't be serious. It's not possible.
:(
 
anyone here good with networking?
I have a printer that isn't working.
 
Hello
 
@TylerChacha - Hi, I'm trying to set up a network printer.
 
I think Printers were invented by the devil..
they are so critical yet so annoying
 
3:55 AM
hear hear
 
Jin
@TylerChacha has to be, since ink is more $ than blood now
 
Ugh, I can't stand how expensive ink is.
Need a 2nd mortgage for it!
 
That's what you get for printing things out!
 
Though I guess I can sympathize, these games are are $60 a piece, and they make me want so many of them..
 
4:03 AM
Erm, wait, what? Games?
 
@RebeccaChernoff Right, of course. semaG. Better?
 
@YiJiang Thanks for translating for me, I always forget that step.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I hardly ever use ink, so I went with what I felt was the most comparable costly thing I get on a semi-regular basis. :P
 
Right. So silly of me to miss that connection.
 
4:05 AM
Hows it going all?
 
buys @RebeccaChernoff some connect-the-dots books
 
@TylerChacha Around 42, +- 3
 
Hahahah
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Q: Warning: strpos() [function.strpos]: Empty delimiter

Scott BI have a plugin that uses strpos() method and on one site I'm getting this error Warning: strpos() [function.strpos]: Empty delimiter. in /home/mysite/public_html/wp-includes/compat.php on line 55 Any ideas what the likely cause of this could be?

I so want to comment "An empty delimiter", but that'd be a bit mean. :P
 
4:22 AM
Do it!
 
@RebeccaChernoff I'm too nice, I'm afraid.
Hahah, and it's even a duplicate!
 
I... sort of like getting unsupported
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I feel like there's an overwhelming number of comments to be made in response to that, but I've opted to go for starring it instead.
 
hmm, what did @radp say doesn't work in the keyboard shortcuts userscript? owner and edit?
oh, edit was a stupid error ):
 
4:41 AM
It's like getting unspecified, but only with @MarcGravell and @balpha as the thugs
 
@RebeccaChernoff You mean he didn't post a bug report on Github? No patch for him!
 
(:
fixededed (:
 
Hoorah! :) I'll remind myself to install it later and take it for a test run.
 
Cool. Just pushed the commit.
Functionally, it works. Not sure I like the code structure though.
 
Minor details!
 
5:07 AM
Oh look, Jon Skeet's book is today's Manning deal
 
@RebeccaChernoff - Thanks for pointing out userscripts and convincing me to get it working in Safari.
I've turned off Jimmy Wales.
Yay! I get my Wikipedia back!
I wrote a blog post about that user script thing, by the way.
 
Hello
 
@TylerChacha - Hello. Sup?
 
Syncing on Triton is going to be a giant thing..
 
I'm sure.
 
5:20 AM
giant as in big programming job
 
I know.
Example: Which version to keep in instance of multiple versions?
 
And one of the first steps will be making a script that updates old data structures :)
 
You use your MacBook often?
 
yes
daily
 
Safari or something else?
 
5:22 AM
chrome
 
Oh, well, I got GreaseMonkey scripts working with Safari today.
Really easy too.
Regarding Triton, I'd point out that the next big thing is user tracking.
@TylerChacha - I don't want to log on using that long hashed URL - and, I need some sort of security.
 
user/password?
note the long hash doesn't correlate to a user
it correlates to which thread ur currently on
 
Figured.
user/pwd is fine, so long as it's not a long complicated setup.
I suggest email/pwd or OpenID.
@TylerChacha - okay, nite.
 
nite
 
6:00 AM
Anyone else alive in here?
 
maybe
 
Doing more UI improvements
 
cool
I'm catching up on some Dilbert.
 
6:17 AM
alive and kicking
 
waking up, slowly
 
i think i'll go back to standby
 
6:52 AM
Google Chrome with Sidetags is actually kinda cool
 
7:35 AM
@RebeccaChernoff Is that an intentional design decision, do you know?
Oh, tomorrow is Tuesday... does timesheet
 
8:08 AM
i hate timesheets
everyone lies anyways
 
 
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9:45 AM
Awww man... dual monitor is really really cool
Also, my father has the Chinese edition of Python in a Nutshell, by Alex Martelli. Fancy that...
He's really a old school programmer - physicist by trade; vim welding, FORTRAN using programmer working with mpich, modeling antenna problems
 
10:09 AM
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A: Can we add strikeout to markdown sharp (and by extension the stack exchange sites)?

Jeff AtwoodWhy? Strikeout is already supported in the HTML, eg, <s>not this again</s> produces not this again (yes, <strike> also works) I don't see any real value in adding random new Markdown syntax when the HTML we all know and love works fine.

wants to go in and change Atwood's answer to use non-deprecated <del> instead
 
 
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11:24 AM
I wish there was a C interpreter
and I didn't have to compile to run sizeof(off_t)
or sizeof(long long int)
 
 
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12:55 PM
This should start some conversation for the day:
Julian assange was arrested
 
It's easy to buy whores with money -- that's the whole point, actually.
 
@radp - huh?
I'm confused, was he arrested last week or this morning? It's Monday by me. Where is it tuesday?
 
@Moshe Here.
@RebeccaChernoff Nice, didn't expect the j/k navigation to also work on A51
 
@radp - I'm a spaz it is Tuesday.
Shame I don't have user scripts in safari mobile...
 
1:24 PM
@TimStone Huh, never noticed that before lol.
I know I need to add scroll, and I need to do the question listing page
 
1:51 PM
@Moshe I'm fairly confident he'll be free within a day or so.. no way those charges are going to stick.
I'm running one of the wikileaks mirrors :)
 
@Fosco, is that a red spot I see hovering over your gravatar? :)
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2:13 PM
Good Morning
 
@Benjol haha )
@TylerChacha Hi
 
Bore da
 
2:29 PM
@NickT, thanks to Ivor the Engine, I am pleased to say I understood that, bach!
 
Ah, coffee.
 
Even coffee isn't enough this morning.. god damn cat thinks 4:30am is an awesome time to play (by scratching me)
@RebeccaChernoff You're quite the star.
 
2:52 PM
 
Google Chrome with Sidetabs.. not too shabby
 
3:11 PM
@TylerChacha What's that look like
 
@radp Did you mean: Google Chrome with Side Tabs
 
@NickT That's not what Chacha wrote :P
 
to the left, to the left
 
@NickT It looks like what Firefox extensions can do since Firefox 2. ;)
 
3:16 PM
Tabs on the side probably better, widescreens aren't exactly the best for websites
 
unless your monitor rotates
 
@RebeccaChernoff need this gravatar ^
 
@YiJiang ...and what Chrome could do natively in a fraction of the time ;)
although only as a lab and only for Windows.
 
@radp ... by adding in a flag after the shortcut after installing the unstable dev version... yeah.
 
3:18 PM
@YiJiang no, it's available from about:labs
 
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A: Is it OK to email Jon Skeet and Ask Him to Answer Posts Which Mere Mortals Cannot?

Jon SkeetPeople do email me questions all the time. I rarely get cross about it :) If you've already asked the question on Stack Overflow, waited 24 hours and not seen a suitable answer, that's fine. That's much better than just emailing me directly, bypassing Stack Overflow completely. In particular, it...

Apparently Jon Skeet takes breaks from SO so he can answer questions from his e-mail
Also I suspect he eats occasionally
 
that's crazy... what is he, a mechanical turk?
 
No, he's a Googler.
 
@Fosco Yes, haven't you seen his $0.02 for every answer ad on Amazon?
 
3:20 PM
:)
 
What's the worst finger to lose for coding?
 
Timeago is nice :)
@NickT Any of them..
 
@TylerChacha Took you long enough :P
 
yawns Whoops, 10 am teleconference..
 
i guess if you didn't have your left thumb you could survive..
I can type pretty regularly without using my left thumb...
it seems that I press the space bar using my right index finger...
 
3:23 PM
@TylerChacha How do you press Alt-Tab?
 
Left THumb middle finger .. but I don't alt tab that much
 
@balpha - good point. Heh.
Check out this question:
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Q: How to configure libMMS in iPhone?

Tech GuruHi, Do anyone know how to configure libMMS for iphone application. I have libMMS library downloaded and I need to configure it in my application. But it gives reference error when I call some function of the library. Please tell me steps to configure libMMS. I am in the critical situation.

The OP is interestingly pathetic - there's a pattern in the questions, the poor english and the dramatization. However, that particular question also has a number of "I'm also stuck" answers by >20 rep posters.
 
@Moshe Only two, request cleanup by calling in diamond mods now...
 
@YiJiang - I flagged already.
@YiJiang - Your userscript wasn't recognized by "GreaseMonkey for Safari", btw.
Not sure why.
 
@Moshe Which one
 
3:28 PM
@TylerChacha Middle finger for alt-tab? Pinky that tab key. Speaking of left middle finger though, I jammed some paper under it last night and drew blood, so it kinda hurts to type with today
Hence the question :P
 
@Moshe Are you referring to Tech Guru or Manuel A? Or both?
 
@PopularDemand - Which comment?
 
@Moshe What do you mean, "which comment"?
 
@Moshe ">" meaning "less than", correct?
 
@NickT Yes - oops
YES > NO
 
3:29 PM
...
Forget it.
 
@PopularDemand - Yes, both of them, my mistake. Sorry.
 
If you're not using all your fingers when you type, you're probably doing it wrong
 
I find it kinda interesting that many of Tech Guru's questions say " I am in the critical situation. "
@MichaelMrozek - I peck as a rule, but I have an odd way of doing so.
I do use multiple fingers, but I don't keep my hands in the standard typing position.
 
@Moshe Sounds like my old company, ALL PROJECTS ARE CRITICAL
 
I'm off to buy WoW Cata
 
3:33 PM
@NickT - But you are not "I am Gurpritsingh Saini working as a Software Engineer in an organization and leading the team of mobile application development.", ary you?
 
I use the 3 middle fingers the most
 
@TylerChacha - enjoy
 
Do they even teach typing in elementary school anymore?
 
@Fosco - You have three middle fingers?! :P
@NickT - Some of my siblings' high school teaches typing.
 
@TylerChacha Probably will do this weekend, what server you on :P
 
3:34 PM
Tichondrius
 
@NickT "anymore"? Where did you go to school where they ever did?
 
I find it terribly unfortunate that schools don't have proper computer classes.
 
@PopularDemand Some public elementary school.
 
Often, it's MS Word or Oregon Trail.
 
@NickT US?
 
3:35 PM
@PopularDemand Yeah
 
They should teach Ubuntu and (Python || some C-style language.)
 
@Moshe I keep trying to get my old HS calc teacher to teach Python/MATLAB
 
I had to find a third-party typing course thing. Which failed horribly, so I ended up just looking at my hands while I typed for years.
 
@NickT - Good. Why not order a bunch of Free Ubuntu 10.10 CDs directly to the school?
@PopularDemand I can peck while looking at the screen.
The whole typing position thing is only sorta-real.
 
3:37 PM
Then one day I woke up and realized I could do the same thing without looking, at >90wpm no less, and that's the story of how I didn't learn a lesson about hard work.
5
 
I asked my brother (in HS) "do they have any coding classes?" He replied, "I know HT..." "HTML IS NOT CODE"
 
@PopularDemand - heh.
@NickT - HTML is markup and can be used as a bridge to other languages which are code.
 
@PopularDemand I doubt I can hit 90 wpm, but yeah, I pretty much learned to type by doing it a ton
 
Mmmhmmm... just found Pink Floyd on the music db. What should I listen to?
 
And who doesn't type a bunch nowadays
 
3:39 PM
@NickT Please don't scare off potential future programmers. Otherwise I'll have to maintain my own code, and nobody wants that.
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Boom! starred.
 
@NickT Funny how that get used as an excuse for *real* programmers to write horrific HTML
 
Psh, hate hate hate
 
Psh, reality, reality, reality
 
:P
 
3:40 PM
:-D
 
I'm writing horrible java right now
 
Isn't all Java horrible?
 
Probably a redundant statement though
 
(Not being cynical, so I've heard.)
 
I confused a client today.
 
3:41 PM
heh.
@mootinator - how so?
 
@mootinator Did you use too long a word?
 
I made a report update live as you change parameters.
I ended up putting a 'Run' button in.
 
@mootinator - Oh, you mean visual feedback. Right, good UX, so people know that their computer hasn't frozen on them... My bad...
 
@NickT I did this yesterday in documentation.
 
@PopularDemand - A run button in documentation?
 
3:43 PM
All those good grades in English classes over the years, and now other people can't understand me because I actually speak and write properly.
 
what was the word?
 
@PopularDemand Goal: Use 'supercalifragilisticexpialidocious' in the next documentation I write
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Fortunately, that's still the exception, not the rule.
 
Does your run button documentation handle exceptions?
 
Does the run button correct it self to say running when it is present tense?
 
3:44 PM
In their mental model if the report is already displayed, there's no point trying to change parameters.
 
@PopularDemand Wat U say?
 
@MichaelMrozek And then "ran" afterwards?
 
@MichaelMrozek You have no chance to survive, make your time
 
@NickT Sadly, CATS' grammar is somewhat better than most teenagers
 
@mootinator I love those little "tweaks" that seem to make them feel better... makes me feel ... icky
 

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