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2:28 AM
hiya @JNK
 
 
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1:31 PM
hello @Sathya
 
@JNK Morning
 
JNK
1:50 PM
@Sathya did you vote on this one yet
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Q: How do you change file associations on an iPad?

BravaxI would like to change .pdf files to use a different application when clicking on links in a browser. How can I do this?

 
Yup @JNK
 
JNK
darn we are 1 vote short
I think wil is mad at me now too :)
 
why so ? @JNK
 
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A: How secure is PayPal? If someone steals my username and password, could he/she steal my money without a trace (IP address) or getting caught?

WilFor starters, they would never be able to do a $100,000 transaction. PayPal has sophisticated fraud tools at their disposal. After this, I think the maximum transaction Paypal allow on accounts is around $2000, after this, you have your credit card (or debit / other card) monthly limit. Then, ...

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I probably shouldn't have said anything but there was a kind of a pattern with him
 
what question did you offer bounty
and someone agrees with you on your comment @JNK :)
 
JNK
2:05 PM
I offered a bounty on application refresh
i had an answer, it didnt fix it, and i want to know what the answer is
 
Link ?
 
JNK
one sec
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Q: Application Screen Repainting Issues

Jeff SheldonI have this issue lately at work. It drives be nuts, and I finally stopped to ask this question. It's quite often that an application I've been running just randomly fails to repaint itself for a while, usually in the editor screen. I most often see this occurring with Expression Web, Visual S...

and i answered this one but the person doesn't believe me. I just added a bunch of links to prove the answer was correct:
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A: Keyboard shortcut to sort by column

JNKALT+V, I, N This will zip you through the menu to sort by name. You can change the last letter to: S for SIZE T for TYPE M for DATE MODIFIED EDIT: I continued to search for you, and found multiple references to indicate this is not possible. Here, here, reference to other methods mentione...

 
this is an WinForms specific issue
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Q: Application Screen Repainting Issues

Jeff SheldonI have this issue lately at work. It drives be nuts, and I finally stopped to ask this question. It's quite often that an application I've been running just randomly fails to repaint itself for a while, usually in the editor screen. I most often see this occurring with Expression Web, Visual S...

there is a question on SO about how to avoid these @JNK
 
JNK
well then answer and we will pay you the bounty
 
sorry, I didn't frame that right.
I mean there is way to avoid those frequent repaint while coding winforms apps
and the problem here is the reverse
 
JNK
2:15 PM
@Sathya AHHH ok
also hello @IvoFlipse
 
morning guys :)
 
JNK
@IvoFlipse what time is it where you are?
 
Morning @IvoFlipse
 
16:17 :P
 
2:18 PM
Where are you based @IvoFlipse
 
Netherlands
 
Hey there @Sathya
 
but my GF has night shifts, so I just shift my days too :P
 
Morning @TheUnhandledException
 
I see you've moved into this room permanently :-) You're in here every time I sign on to chat
 
2:20 PM
As the room owner I have to be here :P
 
maybe you're able to chat while sleeping :-)
 
heheh :)
well I'm most active on SU
makes sense to be here :)
 
Tavern's ... well too crowded so to speak
 
I let Sathya take care of the moderating :P
 
2:22 PM
plus low activity here, so easy to catch up
 
Hey there @Ivo, how goes?
@Sathya Yes. Taven is crazy. Fits my personality well though :-)
 
fine fine :) Spend all night ripping my Python code apart
 
tonight I'm going to see whether I can still get it working
 
@IvoFlipse Cool. Good luck :-)
I'm going to give Thunderbird one last chance today :-)
 
2:23 PM
thanks
I'll need it hehe
I just stick with Outlook, though I find it way too heavy to load
but that might be my computer too :P
 
@IvoFlipse Well I'm no python expert but I formed a room for interactive help with coding
 
I just check my mail on my ipad
 

The Roach Motel

Interactive help with bug testing, code review, anything that
 
way faster
 
Nobody else in tehre now, I'm hoping to get more people in there once chat.stackoverflow.com launches
@IvoFlipse Well Thunderbird has been randomly deleting my emails!
 
2:25 PM
I'm not sure that's possible
 
seriously how would it do that?
 
Well, I think a lot of people on stackoverflow.com aren't aware of the chats. We'll see what happens to this room once chat.superuser.com launches
As Jeff said on the blog, sec, lemme find the quote
 
I think it will remain quiet
we'll try to get chat.superuser up by Friday of next week - sep 11 at 3:55 by Jeff Atwood
 
@IvoFlipse I agree
 
JNK
2:28 PM
any idea what to do about questions that overlap SU and SO?
like...
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Q: How are SQL server management studio passwords saved?

Alex KeyIf, when connecting to a database with sql server management studio and you select "remember password"... where and how is it saved? I presume it is somehow encrypted using your windows login password?

 
> though do be advised that stackoverflow.com will be the last site to get it because of its immense volume
 
I'm not sure whether the SU audience likes to chat
 
if it's about programming software it can stay on SU
 
@IvoFlipse We'll see...
 
JNK
2:29 PM
@IvoFlipse I know it can but they may get a better answer on SO
 
I hope we get visitors here, just sceptical
 
JNK
since all the DBAs are there :)
 
@IvoFlipse I hope so too, and I'm optimistic :-)
We shall see
 
I find it so hard to find answerable questions, so perhaps I'll be able to help more when people are on chat
 
@IvoFlipse Likewise
I think for ServerFault and SuperUser, chat is an awesome solution
so many SU questions involve much back and forth troubleshooting
 
JNK
2:34 PM
@TheUnhandledException TRUE THAT!
 
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A: What do I need to know about working with huge databases?

Cătălin PitișSome ideas Learn the details of the specific database engine, how it works How to optimize queries (hints, execution plans) How to tune the database (not only indexes, but physical storage and representation, OS integration). Query "tricks" like temporary tables to store temporary results that...

nice answer. pretty much the same things we did for improving performance
 
JNK
@Sathya Saw that one yesterday. Good question, I thought.
destroy!
 
sorry what?
 
JNK
did you get it ivo? someone already deleted it
 
2:39 PM
bah. that edit for nothing.
 
hehe, sorry @Sathya
I shoot to kill
 
ah, no probs @IvoFlipse
 
JNK
bbiab
 
3:07 PM
So far so good with new empty Thunderbird config! :-)
 
4:06 PM
oh look new build of Google Chrome
OH WAIT! That's the new IE9
 
:P
did you install it already?
 
na, not yet.
 
I'll give it a shot
even if it's just to replace IE8
 
yup, will definitely try it.
I'm curious as to how much of an impact hardware acceleration is going to provide
 
well after my vacation Chrome will have the same level
 
4:18 PM
heh, true that.
 
hmmm curious what would happen when Nokia and Microsoft start working together more closely
though Nokia should just launch a batch of Android phones till the new Symbian/MeeGo versions are ready
 
Nokia Phone 7
N7
 
it's such BS that they don't want to put their faith in Google's hands
if there's one company that doesn't need Google to do the dirty work, it's Nokia
they just need to launch a decent smartphone NOW
 
tbh I think they don't now what they're supposed to do
 
well I loved Nokia's because they were easy to use and were well built
then they became those butt-ugly E71 phones so I went to Sony-Ericsson (k800/k850)
 
JNK
4:22 PM
@IvoFlipse me too - I had nokias for a long time when I was trying to keep to a simple phone with no features
 
but they also failed to deliver on their smartphone types
so now I have a HTC Hero
and I can already replace it, but the newest models all still have a 1 Ghz
I'm holding out for the Q4 models instead
I know there will always be better models, but I felt the pain with my HTC Hero, which is clearly to slow for several new features
don't want to see the same happen again with Gingerbread
 
 
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6:31 PM
Ooo. Finally within 40 of 10K.
 
lets make that 10k.
alright, congrats on 10k @Chealion
 
congratz :)
 
6:47 PM
Whoa. Thanks!
Nice to see how well the links page on a site with actual traffic. :-)
 
which site doesn't have traffic then?
 
@IvoFlipse Apple.SE
Though it's finally back over 1K views/day
 
JNK
7:21 PM
@Chealion grats on 10k
SF?
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Q: How to flush the mails for a mailbox in exchange-2007

ramesh.mimitHi, I am linux admin and I have to manage some Windows hosts too. I want to flsuh the mails for a particular mailbox in Exchange-2007. How I can do that.. -Ramesh

 
7:41 PM
@JNK Thanks!
@JNK Definitely SF.
 
7:51 PM
@Chealion cliched statement warning
with great power comes great responsibility
runs and hides
 
@Sathya Ha ha! What power?
 
@Chealion 10k tools :P
 
@Sathya However I'll take my illusions of grandeur.
@Sathya The tools help a little.
 
@Chealion what do they look like
 
It's just a page with a list of links to things like: lists of highest, lowered voted answers and questions over a time period, most commented, most viewed, most edited, new tags, and a list of close and delete votes. Additionally a link page to show recent edits, and other small things. A neat time saver.
 
8:01 PM
nice
 
I just look at what you guys post/flag etc and come in to save the day!
 
still no word on quack ? @IvoFlipse
 
nope :(
 
dang.
 
yeah I'm slightly worried
but well, such things happen I guess
 
8:14 PM
for such a long time ?
 
Diago has been away quite some time too?
 
Yeah, true.
 
JNK
heres another one to close
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Q: Difference between an ec2 volume and an ec2 snapshot?

grmCan someone please explain whats the difference between an ec2 snapshot and an ec2 volume?

since i dont have mod tools i use chat to get things done :)
 
Its not a webapp q
serverfault, perhaps.
 
JNK
ec2, amazon web-based cloud computing, is not a webapp?
 
8:21 PM
'd say this relates to serverfault
well @IvoFlipse got to it before me
 
JNK
@IvoFlipse is a machine :)
 
I click, I see, I closed
 
JNK
what's the latin for that?
clicki vidi closi
 
there's no english to latin converter ?
 
JNK
not for click
i guess there wasnt much clicking in ancient rome
 
8:35 PM
I believe the latin is clickus
 
clickus vidi closi ?
 
clicko clicka cluckus, clicuimus clickitus clicakiamous
 
@TheUnhandledException o_0
 
been way too long since I took Latin, LOL
I've forgotten all the plural conjugations
along with the rest of the language, HA!
But I do remember Veni, Vedi, Vici
 
evenin'
 
8:48 PM
Welcome @DMA57361
 
ooo, our own 3rd place?
 
oo nice
dang its not the same password as SU beta passwor
 
hang on
 
ooohh! yey for pre-beta!!!
 
8:50 PM
sorry, it's not open yet
 
Damn, it's not the same as the combination on my luggage :-(
 
tomorrow most likely
not that anything will change, other than the location
 
hmm, mail from Jeff ?
 
what shall we call our Tavern?
 
LOL yeah really, why am I so excited? :-)
 
8:51 PM
nope, Marc Gravell just told me
 
woah
 
@IvoFlipse OH! I KNOW! I KNOW!!!!!!
 
@IvoFlipse hahaha. just kidding, doesn't make sense on SuperUser...
 
The Drunk Transistors
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8:52 PM
The Fast Processor
 
off to meta!
 
The Root Access
 
The Root Acceess is nice!
 
@Sathya Thanks :-) I don't know why I didn't think of that for that other silly tavern :-)
I want in to the beta so I can make a Mac room! I like making rooms :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException hehe
@Chealion will be your permanent host in the Mac room ;)
@DMA57361 greetings
 
9:01 PM
howdy
not really played with the chat much, so thought I'd have a look in
 
@DMA57361 It's awesome
Up arrow edits last post
 
Is it now?
 
@DMA57361 gasp
 
/me loves editing posts in a chat
 
@Sathya gasp?
 
9:02 PM
wishes for /me substitution
 
You can reply to others with @TheirName (as I'm sure you've seen) or the little reply icons
@Sathya I already wrote it, and Shoq9 and Balpha helped
 
@TheUnhandledException Yup, spotted than one :)
 
@DMA57361 click on the little arrow to the left, it will show the last reply
 
You can onebox answers:
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A: /me command for chat

The Unhandled ExceptionOkay, well this has been a contentious debate but in the spirit of Friday, and the Friday opening a long weekend (here in the US anyway) I propose the following solution, which I hereby make Community Wiki so those jQuery experts out there can improve it: To add support for the /me command, if y...

 
blimey, it's like a full blown induction
 
9:04 PM
@Sathya: bookmark the script in that answer and /me will work :-)
 
ah I don't have to bookmark it, clicking on the JS prompts Chrome to install it as an extension :)
/me tests the JS
 
You can also OneBox YouTube and Wikipedia
@Sathya WOAH REALLY!?!?!
hang on gotta try that!!!
 
@TheUnhandledException yup
 
@TheUnhandledException Yup, firefox picks it up via greasemonkey here as well
 
@DMA57361 another nice Onebox
 
9:05 PM
@Sathya it'sa me!
nice :)
 
WOW
@Sathya That is so awesome!
Chrome has won me over :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException yup :-)
you can onebox images too @DMA57361
 
Do I really answer that many Excel questions? :/
@Sathya do they all come out shrunk? what's the size limit?
 
and this is pretty awesome too
31 mins ago, by The Unhandled Exception
clicko clicka cluckus, clicuimus clickitus clicakiamous
 
9:08 PM
@Sathya some sort of back-reference to earlier?
 
hmmm windows, windows, windows :P
 
@DMA57361 yup
it works across rooms too
 
@IvoFlipse not just windows - but windows with a bronze badge!
 
that's just volume @DMA57361 :P
 
9:09 PM
Oh and you can star posts :-)
like that one
 
All this oneboxing is just automagic link converstion?
2
 
kinda like upvoting -- starred posts show star count on the right
 
yeah
 
@TheUnhandledException Yeah, I'd spotted than from the box on the right
 
9:10 PM
@DMA57361 yeah but pretty sweet
as room admin I can pin messages
so they will always show up on the right
w/o having to star them
 
@Sathya oh indeed, but while you were all helpfully telling me what can be one boxed no one bothered to say how
 
@DMA57361 how? Automatic thingamijg :-)
there ought to be a meta post on how
 
@DMA57361 You are a SuperUser, right?? ;-)
 
@Sathya lol, no I meant as in "just post a link"
 
@DMA57361 ah yes
just post a link
 
9:12 PM
@TheUnhandledException erm, possibly
 
as long as nothing precedes the link
 
9:36 PM
Hey do I have any friends in here? Any two people wanna vote an answer of mine which I will soon delete down? (Or any three people want to vote it up?)
before @badp and @balpha foil my evil plot... :-)
 
What's your evil plot
 
To ask for downvotes, either get them and delete the answer getting the Peer Pressure badge, or more likely get upvotes and delete the answer earning Disciplined ;-)
but instead I am getting both up and downvotes, getting me absolutely nothing, LOL
 
lol
 
except for one of the funnier revision histories I've seen :-)
 
@TheUnhandledException exactly what I was thinking :)
@TheUnhandledException been .. "tweaked" again
 
9:45 PM
Yeah, the conversation in The tavern is hysterical :-)

The Tavern (General)

Here we have our fill of bread and wine, and then tell of tale
 
/me goes to have a read
 
@Sathya where are you when I neeeed you? :-)
 
downvoted
 
Awesome, thanks @Ivo!
Ah! It's "Deleted own post with score of -3 or lower"
Why did I think it was -2? =b
 
poof
 
9:54 PM
LOL. weird, I see +1/-3 on my user page, +1/-2 on the answer itself!
 
@TheUnhandledException I see just -1 in both; not rep'd enough for ± on MSO :(
 
oh, now I see +2/-3 in both
 
what I'm missing out on ?
 
/me resists the urge to upvote
 
@Sathya! Please downvote me!!!
:-)
 
9:57 PM
it's back to 0 now
 
@DMA57361 I love having >1k on MSO for that feature
in The Tavern (General), 1 min ago, by balpha
Okay, removed my downvote. I can live with the answer now.
because it has jquery, LOL
status-is-it-friday-because-it-sure-seems-like-it
 
@TheUnhandledException nice
 
DONE
 
Thanks @Sathya! Just 2 more to go... :-)
This is the most fun I've had since, well, Friday's Tavern Naming Contest, lol
HA, now it's at +1, lol
 
10:10 PM
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Q: how do you add value in runtime to structural arrays (in c++)

Edmund#include <iostream> #include <string> #include <cstring> using namespace std; int main (){ int a,b; b = 0; cout<<" this is a family profiling program to test my knowledge of structural arrays. "; cin>> a; struct p { char name[20]; int age; char hobby[40]; char ...

wanna help vote this over to SO?
we don't seem to get to send much their way :)
 
@TheUnhandledException Lol is it some sorta who gets most downvotes thing ?
 
@Sathya I was trying to get either Disciplined or Peer Pressure
I have a perfect split instead, LOL
well, now +5/-4
 
well, hadn't noticed the time
I'm off
 
@TheUnhandledException ah
 
10:16 PM
Instead it just provoked a hysterical edit war :-)
 
LOL @ revisions
 
10:57 PM
@Sathya Ha ha. Sure, why not?
Catching up on things.
@IvoFlipse So the pre-beta. Who has access or is it just they've installed it and are configuring still?
 
@Chealion I have access because I P0wned the password prompt. Oh wait, I was just dreaming...
 
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