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Meta Andrew T.

8:23 AM

@SPArcheon looks like the original capture on MS was only a link. So, it's both the beginning and the end of the body!

rene

9:22 AM

→ 34 messages moved to Chimney

JNat

10:24 AM

@Spevacus gone

@Ollie gone

@JourneymanGeek gone

Tinkeringbell

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Meta Andrew T.

Since this was posted on MSO...

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A: Please unpin the accepted answer from the top

We are planning to change the default sort so that the accepted answer isn't pinned to the top and answers are sorted strictly by score. We will test this out on a subset of questions where the highest scored answer is different from the accepted answer. We'll compare the upvote rate and the rate...

Tinkeringbell

10:44 AM

I both like and dislike that.... Pinning an accepted answer to the top was a good way to highlight answers on IPS that were of way higher quality than others, but just didn't have the votes. Especially on HNQ this could make a huge difference. But I understand that's not really what accepts are supposed to be used for XD

VLAZ

10:55 AM

@Tinkeringbell I agree that sometimes pinning an answer at the top makes sense. And it does so because the voting system doesn't work in those cases. 10 year old question might have sub-par answers with a score of 500 or even 1000. A newer good answer cannot really overtake them.

Also possible that there are just many answers. In which case you do want to highlight one (or several) of them.

However, in many cases the accept checkmark doesn't make enough sense. Moreover, it's in the hands of the question asker who is not always the best person to judge which should go on top.

Overall, I believe unpinning is a good move. But we do need some more systems in place.

Tinkeringbell

11:21 AM

@VLAZ Yeah, I do realize that a site the size and age of IPS probably isn't the best one to make decisions like that on/for... unpinning is definitely good for SO, I guess.

Rob

@VLAZ There is a new "system", the "Recognized Answer":

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A: Firestore snapshot listener gives only last item after internet connection restores

When you are using the following method call: .whereGreaterThan("timestamp", Timestamp.now()) It means that you are trying to get all documents that have a timestamp greater than the time you actually ran the code. So there can be multiple results that can satisfy this query. However, you are ge...

They are recognized as an expert, and by default to provide correct information.

VLAZ

@Rob Which...I'm not sure I'm totally on board with.

Rob

There's a Q where you can offer feedback, and disagree with the Collective.

I agree with your entire reply to Tink. A classic example is the "bulldog clip" on English.SE.

Tinkeringbell

link?

Rob

The accepted answer was simply wrong, after a firestorm of comments the OP no longer wanted to be involved with the Q.

@Tinkeringbell Sort by votes, and view Up vs. Down, for best results:

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Q: What do you call this clamp in English?

I want to search for images of this clamp. What do you call this in English?

(Read the comments, and notes that some were deleted, if you've nothing else to do).

Tinkeringbell

11:35 AM

@Rob Can't see the vote splits at the moment (no userscripts on the work laptop, not enough rep), but I guess I have a sense of what's going on now yeah. Thanks!

Dude coinheringaahing

@Tinkeringbell Accepted answer is +63/-29, the highest voted is +237/-6

Tinkeringbell

Thanks! :)

Rob

I'm too low too, but a peek at the timeline gives a wild guess, the wrong answer has lots of comments, mod locks, and "Don't vandalize your answer." warnings - while the preferred answer has a shorter timeline, and one daily summary is 66 up:

english.stackexchange.com/posts/432404/…

Tinkeringbell

Yeah... I know the struggle XD

Rob

Dude, what the +63/-29 doesn't tell is that many were unupvotes and reversals after the preferred answer was posted and the comments became heated. Note the disassociation of the account too.

SPArcheon

11:52 AM

@MetaAndrewT. mumble... wonder how "accepted answer" works with that messy idea being discussed about "version tag answers"

Tinkeringbell

@Rob I don't see any disassociations...

But well, yeah... you don't become 'infamous' for nothing :P

Rob

Here's the WayBack from 2018, dig those funky vote arrows:

web.archive.org/web/20180223201606/https://…

Feeds

Unless the next line is, "After we broke up, she blamed the painting and spent years planning her revenge, so my sorrow is mixed with relief that the dogs at least denied her that triumph."

Rob

12:07 PM

@Tinkeringbell WayBack shows the name change:

Note that the account URL shows the original number, and that they shouldn't have put a space character in the new name; if they wanted to do that correctly.

Tinkeringbell

12:24 PM

@Rob Ah. Well that's not dissociation, just obfuscation ;) dissociation is what leaves a post with a 'anon' usercard... very strictly speaking :)

Feeds

1:58 PM

stackoverflow.blog/2021/08/20/…

Ollie

@Feeds how many oneboxes are we allowed per day?

Kevin B

2:19 PM

VLAZ

@Ollie "You have exceeded your onebox daily quota. Please pay 5$ to unlock extra oneboxes today."

Ollie

Given the recent talk about paying real money for X, I think that should be "50 reputation for a week's worth of oneboxes".

rene

is stackapps offline for anyone else: stackapps.com ?

Tinkeringbell

yep

rene

What did I click?

Kevin B

2:28 PM

whatever it was, it broke far mroe than stackapps

rene

I did destroy a user. But that was one user, not the whole site.

Tinkeringbell

MSE still works for me, but SO seems down too

Mgetz

looks like SO is completely down

Tinkeringbell

IPS is still alive too

Things also seem to be coming back up though, so it may have been offline for a bit.

rene

stack apps is back.

Mgetz

2:31 PM

someone must have tripped

Kevin B

🚽

Ollie

@rene Well, you know how it goes: When you prune the roses or pick off the potato beetles, you more often than not rip some of the flowers' heads off by accident...

rene

true

Ollie

Unless it's a blurry flower.

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