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8:10 AM

@JourneymanGeek it's just Footprints

> Emoji Meaning
Two human footsteps, showing the outline of both feet, including all five toes.

Footprints was approved as part of Unicode 6.0 in 2010 and added to Emoji 1.0 in 2015.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

8:32 AM

Too silent for Wednesday, no?

We need one of these here!

!!/horn

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 No such command 'horn'.

Journeyman Geek

/me hands @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 a vuvuzela instead

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

:(

@JourneymanGeek Shakira!!!

That's the first association

rene

in Shadow's Den, 28 secs ago, by rene

!!airhorn

rene

9:12 AM

@JourneymanGeek @DavidPostill is this enough signal to qualify as spam: superuser.com/a/1670067 they posted something similar on SO.

Journeyman Geek

@rene well ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander_One the dev's got a bit of a bad rep on SE so... I'd say I'd consider a flag valid

rene

you have a flag then ...

Rob

11:01 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Wrong shaker: youtu.be/4S7C-iMWs44

SPArcheon

reposting here too, I want to see how the Tavern reacts to this idea.

soranews24.com/2021/08/18/…

this firework has a small Teddy bear plush inside.

That gets shoot up in the air.

Journeyman Geek

won't it burn?

SPArcheon

Ready to fall on your head.

apparently it doesn't.

Dude coinheringaahing

@SPArcheon Luckily its soft :P

Tinkeringbell

Doesn't sound too different from the party poppers we used to use.

SPArcheon

11:10 AM

Tinkeringbell

It probably works with air pressure instead of proper fire and gun powder :P

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell does your average party popper shoot a Teddy 10 meters up in the sky?

also...

Not sure that is just air :P

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon It can easily shoot confetti that far, so why not a small bear like that... I'll look things up, maybe some of them have gun powder...

SPArcheon

Oh, I didn't want to argue, really.. just the comparison seemed a little off. Furthermore here the idea seems to be that the kids can collect the plushes

Tinkeringbell

Ah yeah there's two kinds... one with air pressure, the other with gun powder. Both no more dangerous than a bottle of corked bubbly wine though.

SPArcheon

11:13 AM

So, basically a gacha that is shoot by an actual firework.

Tinkeringbell

Could be fun, though to me it sounds like just one other way to pressure kids into pressuring their parents to waste money.

SPArcheon

many gacha games have animations with your item falling from the sky.... I guess this is the real world version.

@Tinkeringbell You had any doubt ? :P

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@rene huh! Totally forgot about this command! lol maybe because it's not related to toilets.... :D

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon Until I've tried it myself, I can't make any definitive statements.

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell no, I meant "Do you have any doubt that the purpose is one other way to pressure kids into pressuring their parents to waste money"? Seems pretty blatant.

Tinkeringbell

11:18 AM

Oh. No, no doubt there.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Rob this?

It's lemon joice container.

SPArcheon

Especially since it can't work as a firework in the first place because:
a) you are advised to use it during day time to be able to actually find the plush and
b) it can't really do much without colorful sparks and / or explosions.

Rob

That's the new banned replacement

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

Almost same.

The green ridge makes it look like a dragon, not a horn.

Rob

Almost the same.

Caxirola

The caxirola (pronounced [kaʃiˈɾɔla]) is a Brazilian percussion instrument created by Carlinhos Brown and consisting of a closed plastic basket with a flat-bottom filled with small synthetic particles, in an attempt to create a sustainable product. It was based on the caxixi, and thus it is also an indirectly struck idiophone, sounded by shaking. The caxirola was certified on September 27, 2012 by the Brazilian Ministry of Sports and was created to be the official musical instrument of the 2014 FIFA World Cup in Brazil. However, it was not allowed inside stadiums of both the World Cup and the 2013...

SPArcheon

11:26 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 lame.

Remember your identity.

This is the drink for you.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@SPArcheon interesting, I also forgot mana potions are always blue. Can't be coincidence. :P

SPArcheon

11:45 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Magic is green in Zelda, a game that uses Heart containers as the health gauge.

tripleee

generacodice (dot) com weirdly republishes Stack Overflow content with attribution

it-swarm-fr (dot) com weirdly republishes what looks like machine-translated Stack Overflow content in French

SPArcheon

for this reason... @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2

> Its actually quite simple when you look at it from a game designers perspective: So a lot of games that have mana as a character stat also have health as a more important stat. A lot of health bars change color as your hp drops. Now it makes sense to use primary colors as hp to display how important it is. Most of them use green>yellow>red as a progression leaving blue for the mana bar.
Keep in mind that not all health bars change color and can often use red as the hp color. In such cases it is not uncommom to see green used as the color of mana.

this reddit argument seems quite on spot

tripleee

qastack (dot) com (dot) br in Portuguese

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon Meanwhile: stardewvalleywiki.com/mediawiki/images/3/35/HealthBar.png :P

@tripleee All with attribution or? meta.stackexchange.com/a/200178/369802 lists when to report and how to do it :)

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell Meanwhile:

Health bar? What health bar?

just look at how broken your armor is

tripleee

11:56 AM

@Tinkeringbell those are without attribution as far as I can tell, but I don't read Portuguese or French well enough to be able to tell... but they have my content without anything which looks like a license statement

the automatic transltion kind of obscures this, I recognize my user name and some of the code snippets

Tinkeringbell

@tripleee Do you have a link to one of yours on that French site? My French is semi-reasonable, I could try and check...

tripleee

it-swarm-fr.com/fr/unix/…

I speak enough to recognize nouns and verbs so I can tell that it's a translation of something I actually wrote ... that's harder to establish with the Japanese one I also found

Tinkeringbell

Looks okay enough to me. They link each question back to the original on SO, link to the SO user profiles, and if you scroll down there's the license being repeated.

That's what I see :)

tripleee

oh, the footer probably makes this particular example okay

but I'm curious about the quality; I'm guessing this is pretty low value for anyone who only speaks French if it's actually machine translated

Tinkeringbell

Well if you don't read English, it's often better than nothing.

It doesn't even seem like a very horrible machine translation to me, but it's been a loooong while since I ever read anything in French ;)

tripleee

12:05 PM

but also often worse, when the quality is bad enough; a static translation is probably going to be less useful than a fresh one, as long as machine translation is improving

I also found one caled Quabr which has a footer which says "Quabr.com is StackOverFlow proxy site" but that's pretty unsatisfying (but I think I have reported them to SO before)

Tinkeringbell

@tripleee Can't have everything ;) If that site wants to draw visitors and be a great replacement, that's exactly what they'd do... usually not though ;)

tripleee

reported the Portuguese and Japanese ones, let's see

Feeds

1:46 PM

Celebrating the Stack Exchange sites that turned 10 years old

Ben Popper on August 18, 2021

We’re more than just StackOverflow.com; here’s a few of the sites in the Exchange network that have been around for a decade!

Kevin B

2:24 PM

🚽

2

SPArcheon

2:37 PM

I was trying to make Akinator guess "SharePoint"...

Last question he asked was "Is it evil".......

VLAZ

2:55 PM

@SPArcheon *slams the YES*

SPArcheon

"is it related to Cthulhu?" "Yes"

VLAZ

Wow...I beat Akinator. I tried with Koschei the Deathless - a slightly more minor character from a more minor part of folklore. And he gave me "Näcken / Nøkken / Näkki" from Scandinavian folklore.

I don't even know who that character is.

OK, Akinator did guess correctly with additional questions but I think that's cheating.

SPArcheon

@VLAZ Akinator has a problem by default - it allows for new questions to be added. And people add the same question again and again.

It would need some sort of clean up, the actual data could be useful in some context

BTW, I also think that it DOES play dumber some time to have an excuse to ask more questions

Sometime you notice that it makes a very specific question followed by a few random ones

I suspect it uses those "fake" questions for data validation. Maybe.

Mithical

3:19 PM

@VLAZ It's scarily good, though.

user1271772

Oh nice, @VLAZ is here

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@KevinB totally, this time.

VLAZ

@SPArcheon Yes, It must do it to have more data to properly find the characters. If it does it with the minimal amount of questions possible, then it will not classify that character very well.

@Mithical That's why I was surprised. I've not tried Akinator for quite a while but I do know it guesses correct no matter how obscure a thing you throw at it. I've seen it manage to guess local pop stars.

Mithical

Immediately after I sent that, it failed to guess Matthias from Redwall (although it did guess Martin).

VLAZ

You can throw it a curve ball and it will fail but usually because the character you select isn't very well defined. I tried with "changeling" but it's really a class of mythological creatures.

> Does your character wear cream colored satin panties?

Uh...

That's a bit personal, isn't it, Akinator.

SPArcheon

3:40 PM

@VLAZ that is what I meant by "noise question"

That said, it had no idea who this one was.

Tinkeringbell

Oh, I know that one! It's that purple-haired, purple-eyed anime protagonist!

Mithical

@VLAZ It failed at Fezzik.

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell 90% sure that you are joking but if you actually recognize her, congrats. I assume few would recognize her even in the Anime room

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, you can make that a 100% ;)

VLAZ

3:56 PM

Also failed on Dr Douglas Netchurch who is like a lore character in Vampire the Masquerade fluff in the books. Not a major character but recurring. I did the full 50 questions but it just kept asking about irrelevant stuff "Is your character female" -> "No" "Is your character an independent woman?" -> "No". It wasn't until question 40 or so until it asked "Is the character a vampire".

SPArcheon

there is no "logic" behind the game by itself. Since the questions are user added there is a lot of noise (and dupes, "is the character male" is a separate question from "is the character female")

Also, there isn't any form of graph db involved

just groups slicing and nothing more.

so the "intelligence" is just a group becoming small enough for the algorithm to suddenly pick a very relevant question

Feeds

8:22 PM

Grandma's shelf-stable blackberry pie meson recipe was a huge seller until her farm was shut down by a joint FDA/NRC investigation.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

9:43 PM

The latest blog scandal reminds me of some remote family relative who reach birthday party, and writes some totally wrong name in the card. The intentions are good, the gift is solid, but the relative is just too unfamiliar with the one celebrating, so he doesn't even know the actual name.

All it takes is to ask someone who does know, few minutes of his time.

Dude coinheringaahing

One thing I think could've been/could be kind of cool: ask the communities

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Dudecoinheringaahing nah, ask a CM like Catija.

Or even a long time developer.

Dude coinheringaahing

I think you misunderstand me, gimme a second to fully explain :P

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

listening to clock ticking

Dude coinheringaahing

I'm currently writing up a "History of Code Golf Stack Exchange" post for our site blog, and would love to write (or even contribute to) a short paragraph explaining to people who we are as a site. If the blog post was more "These sites have turned 10. Here's what their communities have to say about them", it'd be really cool imo

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

9:48 PM

@Dudecoinheringaahing oh. Way too much work.

The task is "write something short and simple to show we acknowledge the sites", which is fair.

Dude coinheringaahing

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Really? Post a meta question saying "You guys turned 10 this year. We'd love to hear what you feel about this" on each site's meta, pick one/two short answers and copy-paste them into a blog post. It's slightly more work than just posting a list of sites, but it'd show that SE actually does care about us turning 10, and I doubt it would be that much work

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Dudecoinheringaahing this means hours of work, instead of less than an hour.

Dude coinheringaahing

OTOH, we all forgot that we turned 10 on CGCC, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

Plus, good chance some low traffic sites won't give even single answer.

But overall you're correct, of course. :)

Dude coinheringaahing

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I highly doubt that. Granted, CGCC isn't the smallest site on the list, but we jump at any chance to talk to the staff about us (example: any of Philippe's questions), and most sites will be able to come up with at least one thing to say about the occasion

Besides, for a company that is supposed to be for its communities, I don't see anything wrong with putting it a little bit more time and effort to demonstrate that you haven't forgotten those communities.

Kevin B

10:11 PM

meh

Rob

10:28 PM

It depends on how you want to gauge activity, visits / Q/D / Users / etc., but there's a dozen sites coming up on 10 years - but what about the ones that just missed the mark, no credit for 10Y1M to over 13 years?

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