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12:48 AM
@Tinkeringbell I thought parrots and guinea pigs don't interact well...
 
 
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2:04 AM
Second this. You do not "fix" Unicode. You writes your code, then you prays for mercy, then you dies. Your corpse decays. The world forgets you, moves on, grows cold. But Unicode will still be there. Eternally laughing at your folly. https://twitter.com/ManishEarth/status/1106288647928635392
status-drunk
Watching some Jason Bourne movie I don't even know. AMA
 
 
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3:08 AM
With 13200+ primary votes, Baum is now in 2nd place all-time, behind Aaron Hall's 15985 in election #8.
@Bookends You are not the only one wondering.
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Q: What happened to this user?

Theo BenditI noticed it a while back that one of our regular contributors (who used to go by a different moniker) was suspended early this year. I Am just wondering Why? I understand if this is not the kind of thing that can be discussed openly in detail, but my curiousity is figuratively killing me! They...

> Am just wondering Why
Are we okay with being 99% stupid?
 
3:23 AM
I guess we are all stupid... otherwise there's no mystery that human can't explain...
^ deja vu :/
 
 
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4:26 AM
Do we have a meta post on "requesting automatic tag suggestion to be enabled when asking a question"?
 
4:39 AM
GDPR, then Article 13, and now CCPA
 
5:12 AM
@Bookends meh
I'm not fond of "How will $law affect $site" - simply cause of the sheer amount of armchair lawyering
 
 
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6:30 AM
!!/blacklist-website exclusivewebsite\.com
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog That pattern looks like it's already caught by Pattern-matching website in body and Pattern-matching website in answer; append -force if you really want to do that.
 
!!/blacklist-website-force mostexclusivewebsite\.com
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#2709 for you.
 
6:48 AM
@JourneymanGeek 120% agree
 
Second time I'm saying something to that effect, but its a curious artifact of how SE's community works ;)
 
because... Tim can always block IP from EU ;p
 
California is trickier
;)
 
@JourneymanGeek How will law affect site kthxbye
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ with something like arbitration - it directly affects the user
If there's a specific legal requirement - and you want it met, that's different
 
6:54 AM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ it will affect the sales of armchair, predicted toward positive
 
@MSOGA I think the user's profile sums it up
She's clearly unhappy :/
 
Following Maths' Meta, I failed to find any convincing evidences that made her suspended, unless they're already deleted, or it's about CRUDE
 
@Bookends or said posts were deleted
 
morning
discussing suspensions publicly is always a fool's errand, as we usually only have 10-50% of the story depending
 
@Magisch and even when someone has a little more information it may not be useful or possible to share
 
7:08 AM
Oh, yeah, I forgot abou that, the reason for the suspension is clear ;p
 
@Bookends well, no one really needs to know, other than the suspended person and the mods/CMs
 
7:31 AM
Oh, marvelous.
It was okay to call out someone by their real name when they prefer not to disclose it but it's not OK to say it's your suspension
Also kinda unclear what kinda negative connotation they want us to infer from the words "paid staff"
 
@M.A.R.>_>
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Its not ok to call out someone by their real name when they prefer not to disclose it
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ the policy on discussion of suspensions is very clear. We're (in terms of the folks who have access to that information) are not going discuss a user's suspension in public unless they choose to
 
and thus, the answer is: become a mod :/
 
@Bookends I'm a mod, and I can't really see the details of their suspension on math
 
You might find users who insist that all details of their suspension be disclosed publicly, in the hope that the community will think differently of it and rally for their unsuspension
 
7:44 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog that rarely goes well. Sunlight is the best disinfectant but good mods tend to consider suspensions a last resort
 
I guess it's better for me to stop before accidentally disclosing something that should not leave from that place...
 
You're going to have better luck going through the CMs
 
Everyone is a mod it seems
 
@Magisch by design? ;p
 
no I mean everyone I hang out with anywhere
charcoal is practially blue, here is practically blue, even SOBotics has mods in it
 
7:47 AM
Oh!
Well there's a lot of sites!
 
Charcoal, where diamonds are made. It means you are next!
 
And mods are typically the most engaged folks - and they'd tend to hang out in places like that
 
@JourneymanGeek So, if a user says either to mods, CMs, or on some external platform, that they're OK with mods discussing their own suspension, in response to someone else asking about their suspension, will mods do so?
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog We could choose to
But we might not - if we feel its unhelpful
So, lets say, someone tweets us about a suspension - we'd probably ping a CM and see what's the best way to go
If someone pings me on my blog about it...
it can go into /dev/null
 
@JourneymanGeek But can't a mod theoretically abuse it, by citing "private evidence" that doesn't exist?
 
7:50 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog We could also accuse them of drowning kittens and kicking puppies, sure
 
then another mod escalates for a mod abuse... great...
 
stack exchange is relatively drama free when it comes to mod abuse
 
Practically - in a site that runs well, mods act as a check for each other
 
we had mod abuse drama every day at minecraftforums (go figure)
also because some mods would really misuse the shadowban feature
 
So if we felt an action was too harsh or out of line, or even if we wanted someone to take another look, we'd let the other mod know
Likewise the CMs act as another level of check for us - though that's uncommon
 
7:52 AM
thankfully SE doesn't do shadowbans
 
a mod who suspends without a good reason is likely to come under scrutiny
 
Each site has its own mod-only chat rooms before escalating to TL/CM
 
Theoretically a mod could refuse to disclose details about a suspension despite the user's consent, if they believe that doing so could get the community to start rallying for the user to be unsuspended.
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog we could
But nothing stops the user from doing it themselves too (and misrepresenting us)
There is absolutely no reason we are compelled to respond to such a post
 
This site does not work on "technically a mod could"
 
7:56 AM
technically a mod could stand on one leg and hit a pinyata ;p
 
reminded me of some meta posts where users protesting on deleted/frozen chat rooms, though they usually never ended well
 
Technically I could just skip work this day?
 
Technically there are a lot of rough edges that are unexplored because SE does a fair job at selecting reasonable people to mod to the point where you don't need to lawyer out every aspect of their conduct in hard rules
 
Theoretically, they're practicing the technical sides
(I'm confused)
 
7:58 AM
Unrelated: say that a user violates a certain room's rules and gets suspended from chat. But the chat suspension ends up proving to be moot because they happen to be a moderator on some site (e.g. by participating in a new private beta site and being nominated as a mod there). Is that cause for having the user de-modded?
As a chat mod they have access to private moderator rooms and can thus end up disrupting discussion.
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog not necessarily
 
Technically, no.
 
But this is a situation where we need a CM taking a look, and acting as a arbitrator
 
Chat moderators can still chat despite a suspension.
 
Moderators are supposed to set an example - so if a moderator is misbehaving or acting in a manner unbecoming of the role, well....
 
8:01 AM
Say that they're doing a swell job moderating the site they have the diamond on.
 
Don't forget if the mechanics fail, that's when we have to have people handling the exceptions
@SonictheWizardWerehog either the 'local mods' talk, and let them know that's not ok, or a CM does
if there's a pattern of issues, then we'll have to figure out what's the best way to deal with it
 
@JourneymanGeek I meant that Hello guy from Math.SE, not you, drama bomb
 
That reminds me of something else: does being suspended or having been suspended in the past year affect one's ability to get hired as a Stack Exchange employee?
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Still... it's bad manners to tell anyone anything something someone only told a select few people (or didn't even tell, but someone figured out anyways)
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ 'hello guy drama bomb', perhaps that's the next password I'll use
 
8:03 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog No idea
 
If, during the hiring process, it's discovered that the user is suspended on some site, will that prevent them from getting the job?
 
I've got a stirling record as a user and I keep getting rejected ;p
More practically - I don't think so
 
@JourneymanGeek You know... I came up with a theory. I now think someone in HR is afraid of dogs. You should change your profile picture before applying next time :P
 
Then users who are suspended can get moderator rights by becoming an employee and obtaining staff moderator rights.
 
If they're getting hired they're probably integral enough to not abuse those rights. They do have a screening process.
 
8:06 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog but they have shown other qualities during the interview process that shows they are potentially a good fit for the role.
 
These hypothetical things hurt my hypochondria...
 
Abusing those powers is a good way to lose your job pretty quickly.
 
@JourneymanGeek True if it's a CM position, but if it's, say, a dev position, then the interview will mostly be based on dev prowess.
 
Actually I suspect up until you start getting interviews with people on the ground - it shouldn't matter
So here's an interesting thing about being a MSE mod
In theory, of an employee misbehaves, we're supposed to act as a check to that.
THANKFULLY we've not have had to find out how that works yet
 
yeah, yeah, because they will DROP TABLE Comments... and everyone's happy!
 
8:08 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog so more or less, if you're interested in working for SO... just apply and see what happens ;p
actually as far as QA devs and SRE goes - having a good grasp of dealing with the meta mob (tm) is useful
 
But the question is, if your interview goes well, and the company offers you, but then they discover that you are suspended somewhere, would SE pull out?
In theory, one could apply for a job at SE instead of nominating in a mod election
 
There's probably no way for us to answer that and it highly depends on context.
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog yeah, in 4th interview round
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog its significantly easier to become a mod than working for SO I suspect
there's a lot more mods than devs, SREs and CMs
 
"work at SE" != "just become a mod everywhere"
In any position, including CMs.
 
8:12 AM
@Mithrandir actually CMs do actually need global moddy powers
(for the same reasons that CMs give up being mods. SREs may not. Not sure about devs)
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog I wonder where you're going with these hypothethicals
 
I think he wants to apply for a job ;p
 
Yes; I'm saying their duties aren't the same as just being mods everywhere.
 
SE isn't some ridig system that you can game to the detriment of its mission. It's staffed by discerning people all the way down, the chance to pull a fast one on the mod mechanics is nearing zero
The answer to any corner case is most likely going to be "what makes most sense, as decided by sensible individuals"
 
(and seriously - if you think something is a good fit, give it a shot)
 
8:16 AM
Hell, even being banned for 20 years doesn't stop you from getting it overturned and then becoming a mod on multiple sites given enough reflection and engagement
 
8:51 AM
And that;s something I strongly believe in - people can have bad days, weeks or even longer...
But if they're actually making a real effort to change - I'm ok with them being given a chance to do what they can anywhere
 
9:10 AM
@JourneymanGeek Oh man tell me about it. These post-transplant drugs make you sweat like hell and it was really hard to change in the beginning
 
o_o
And God, hospital clothes suck big time
 
I guess
open at the back?
 
What?
 
'sweat like hell' is undisturbingly scary...
 
9:13 AM
Oh, no that's just the surgery "gowns"
The normal clothes are like plastic bags shaped like legit clothes
 
Too much plastic. Too too much
 
o_=
 
O_p
That's Nick Fury crying
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ merge with please...
 
10:06 AM
Okay... time to go back to not reading the news ever. I preferred it that way.
 
10:24 AM
News is bad today :(
 
10:34 AM
Shooting in Christchurch, rockets in Tel Aviv...
 
(received a local site suspension on Stack Overflow)
 
@Mithrandir The rockets didn't even make the news here :(
 
10:53 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog gone
 
11:16 AM
@Mithrandir rockets in Tel Aviv are sadly common :/
 
@JourneymanGeek There haven't been rockets in central Israel since 2014. They're usually somewhere in my area or down in the South.
 
ah
hm :/
Terrorism of any sort sucks :/
No one really wins, people die, and nothing ever really changes
 
Things only change for the worse.
In other news... apparently the tear in my retina either healed itself or hasn't yet fully opened; they're not entirely sure which.
 
It could be a quantum tear
 
The doctor thinks it's because of the high level of myopia. My mother thinks it's retinopathy of prematurity.My grandmother things it's genetic.
 
11:24 AM
Only one of them has a degree in medical stuff, right? :P
 
I'm just like "whatever; as long I don't have to do that laser surgery I'm fine".
 
pew pew pew
 
11:36 AM
shoop da woop
 
12:23 PM
> There's something very broken with our UI, because this question comes up quite a bit. I mean a lot. Waaaay more often than it should. meta.stackexchange.com/a/325248
Programming questions come up on meta a lot, way more often than they should.
Does not necessarily mean the UI is broken. Maybe some people are like that.
See also: questions in answers, all the time.
 
I think Shog was being facetious here
 
More often on Travel and Expats than on other sites, though. Despite them having the same UI.
 
Higher incidence of low-English-skill visitors?
 
Higher involvement with phpbb travel forums is my guess.
 
Hello sir. I bad at english. Can I get job as helpdesk guy?
 
12:27 PM
It wasn't really a programming question though
@JohnDvorak ._.
 
I have actually seen that. Somebody was actually asking "Can I get a job as a helpdesk agent even though I'm bad at English?".
 
Been removing two instances of the tag per day, and it's now down to two questions...should I finish the job now or wait?
 
FINISH IT!
 
Well, there were four uses just earlier, and I removed two just now
While cleaning it, I also discovered the tag ...is it too broad? Should I file a burninate request and begin cleaning it as well?
@JourneymanGeek Done. Would you mind slapping a on the request?
 
12:43 PM
@SonictheWizardWerehog the question in the queue - I left alone intentionally
 
The answer you mean?
 
yup
So... it actually demonstrates a potential bug or issue
its just painfully annoying
 
Shog's recommendation is that answers that anyone considers annoying or obnoxious should be deleted. But I figured you knew what you were doing, so rather than pinging you I asked the community to delete-vote it instead.
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog It is the sandbox
All manner of... strangeness happens there
The point of the sandbox is to test things
 
If the community decides to give it Looks OK reviews, I won't mind. The point of the above link posted there is just so people review it (either way)
 
12:46 PM
sure but if people see it in its current form, they will likely vote to delete
 
Only two Looks OK reviews are required compared to six votes for deletion
@JourneymanGeek If you believe so, feel free to modify that message to say "review-pls".
 
Is there a benefit of not purging the sandbox periodically?
 
@JohnDvorak good question!
 
@JohnDvorak That was the case for years until recently
So we have a case study
 
There's a mechanism for it but I don't think mods can do it
 
12:48 PM
I vote purge. Auto-purge, even.
 
@JourneymanGeek Merge the question with the archive, then manually unlock it.
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog eww merging
Something I would rather avoid
 
Roomba criterion: if it's in the sandbox, and older than one day, delete with impunity.
 
I think I'll check with the CMs ;)
 
Merging transfers the answers to the target, then manually unlocking and clearing the merge history will allow it to be used again
 
12:50 PM
Merging is also... an utter pain if you get wrong
You might know how it works, but you don't know how it works.
 
Can't we just try it, and then ask a CM to clean up the mess? Like we did with that tag synonym? :P
 
if you do that they might promote green parrots again
 
Can mods clear merge history even, like migration history?
 
ugh no
 
Well, it waits to see what happens if a merged post is manually unlocked, if a notice is shown...
Get a CM on standby and test it
@Tinkeringbell What synonym?
 
1:02 PM
@SonictheWizardWerehog The one you asked a question about which I commented on
 
Ah, the one about duplicates
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog considering this is CM driven before, it makes sense, as far as I am concerned to check first before breaking things ;)
 
Yeah, that's what I meant by getting a CM on standby (to make sure they are available to immediately fix things once you perform the test, if need be)
 
and here I thought you were aspiring to be marley journey
 
 
1:07 PM
Marley and me marley?
 
yea
The reference was a longshot, but you got it :P
I remember marley as a somewhat chaotic dog :p
 
he was
 
never saw the show tbh, but I heard about it secondhand and heard one of the songs
was it not a good reference to make in irony?
 
Oh
I read the book
 
I skimmed over the promotional brochure thingy
 
1:14 PM
It's g3rv4!
 
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
 
Hide the evidence!
 
eats the evidence
2
 
Nooo! That's my homework!
 
Hey! That was my homework, not the evidence!
 
1:17 PM
Heh :D
 
Its the evidence of your homework burp
 
No i'm serious teach my dog ate the homework :(
2
still gets an F
 
You have a dog?!
 
No, but I used that excuse several times
 
1:20 PM
successfully?
 
Never worked here... I think my best excuse was 'I'm on my period' whenever I didn't feel like participating in gym class. That always worked :D
 
In fact, I once took cat excrement from our cat and rubbed it on a piece of random writing and then presented it to the teacher as "The cat took a dump on it". The pungent odor precluded future investigations
 
that's... dedication
 
The dog excuse mostly didn't work
the ol' "the file got corrupted" method for handing in assignments did though
 
@Magisch Oh... or sending in a docx when you knew full well the teachers could only open doc :P
 
1:23 PM
dogx?
 
take a random file of plausible length, change title and first sentences to something resembling your assignment, then open it in editor and add some random stuff. Now it won't open and you have plausible deniability to hand the actual project in the next time you see the teacher instead.
 
That was more of a method of stalling than not having to do it all though..
 
Or when your school uses shitty hand-in software crash their webserver at due time
 
I wasn't that tech savvy :P
 
me neither but there was a known bug that if you clicked a certain button rapidly the whole software would die
 
1:26 PM
@Magisch Oooh. And I did know about autoclickers at that time XD
 
Heh, now I imagine a clicker game that will crash if it's clicked too fast...
 
Did anyone ever play cookie clicker?
 
a little
prefer clicker heroes, and now clicker heroes 2
 
I used to go nuts on that game, just to get ahead of a friend at school. I found some kind of program that would click twice every millisecond, and then leave the laptop running for the night just to get ahead of her XD
 
Not cookie clicker, but the Steam's Summer Sales one... Monster Game
 
1:33 PM
I spent over 800 hours having clicker heroes open
 
2 got rid of in-game purchases
but it's of course an entirely different game
 
I have that too, but only played it sporadically since
I want to wait until all the wipes are over
 
same
i spent a good bit at initial release, then again ~ 3 months ago
it's in a pretty good state
 
@Tinkeringbell Heh, Microsoft pulled the download for the Office Compatibility Pack (which allows 2007+ format files to be opened in 2003 programs) in April 2018. I managed to download a copy before that; if anyone needs it, feel free to message me...
Plagiarizing code is also easy (not that I've done it): just change variable names, add/remove comments, change if statements to switch, for loops to while, etc.
Is this anyone else's relationship with their dog? https://twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/1106548206203215873
 
sounds about right
 
 
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2:51 PM
@Magisch Is that fun?
 
3:06 PM
@Tinkeringbell This stuff rarely makes the news anywhere besides here. For instance:
A terrorist from Gaza breached Israel’s border fence carrying an IED and a knife. Our troops stopped him before he could reach families living minutes away. This is why our soldiers are stationed along the Gaza border, to defend those families.
 
3:23 PM
@Tinkeringbell The fraction of the time I had it open I was playing it, yeah
I suppose I actually played about 20 of those hours
 
3:37 PM
I just thought of a genius solution to end Stack Overflow's quality problems.
Step 1: Question ban everybody.
Step 2: Use stackroboflow.com to generate questions at a manageable rate.
Step 3: Because we don't have to worry about angering OP and the quantity of questions can be greatly diminished, we have the time to be thorough with each question and edit it into something useful.
 
... nah.
 
4:09 PM
@bjb568 disappointed it doesn't mention devdoodle ...
 
4:30 PM
@bjb568 the site design... might be problematic :/
 
5:03 PM
@SupaMegaDuckyMomodaWaffle You're the exact opposite of me?
 
5:19 PM
Of course, @Sonic. First math problem I ever learned: "Pikachu != Sonic".
 
That Stack Roboflow thing is so cool
 
Wow... that's very... unusual.
 
I wanna see someone try to answer the questions now
I don't think I'll ever understand this Chat lolololol. Looks like there's more to this community than simple Q&A
 
The Q&A part is the main part of the site. Chat is just kinda off to the side.
 
Huh, new faces
Still avatarless for me, but anyway
 
5:44 PM
-4
Q: Do any world leaders have access to a nuclear "red button"?

bondonkIn this article North Korean dictator Kim Jon Un claims (according to NBC) that: "The entire mainland of the U.S. is within the range of our nuclear weapons and the nuclear button is always on the desk of my office". Donald Trump facetiously responded with a tweet saying: North Korea...

 
5:55 PM
I also have this red button on my desk...
 
6:23 PM
@Eleeza This here is a tavern
 
6:35 PM
4
A: Goodbye and thank you, Jaydles!

ralphgabbIt's real, not all heroes wear cape, some wear a smile to serve the community. I just read this today and left me in awe to know that someone out there really cared this much for the other devs. On behalf of students, starting professionals and hobbyist. Thank you for everything. Best of luck b...

Well yeah, Mr. Incredible, for one
Wonder woman doesn't wear capes either
And neither do . . . hmm . . . all of the existing MCU characters
I love ruining someone else's dramatic moments
 
7:20 PM
@Rob No, I manually had to go to metasmoke to delete the comment
 
8:09 PM
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Q: Pressing "tab" in log-in form switches to "Forgot password?"

MorwennThe login form used to have an intuitive behaviour up to a few days ago: pressing the tab key would switch from the email field to the password field, just like pretty much any such login form under the sun. For some reason it was changed recently and pressing the tab key from the email field swi...

One tab too many?
 
Pfft, you have heavy caching
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ No, I just posted it a little late
 
Yeah, caching
 
 
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9:33 PM
What is the Pastafarian equivalent of Halal?
 
No tomatoes?
 
🍅
 
10:08 PM
BmA: 13766, J-FF 10567. Candidates with 10K+ score in primary round have 100% record of getting elected.
Rock & Roll HoF: totally worth the price of admission.
 
Hey guys. First time using SO chat. Is this the right room to ask for rules about posting questions on SO (not meta)?
 
Not really, but it's pretty boring here and happy hour hasn't started yet so go ahead
 
Oh, this is the first late happy hour of the year for me.
 
@Shog9 Basically i just wanted to know if SO is the right place to ask questions related to software that might be coupled to a specific version of it
My question is about Kubernetes tooling to be precise and i can't figure out whether it's a but on a package i'm trying to install or if i'm missing something. I asked on freenode irc but no response there whithin an hour
s/but/bug
And now as a good SO citizen i don't want to clutter it with questions that are against the rules (and potentially loose rep :D)
 
10:28 PM
@Anticom well, first question is: what are you using Kubernetes for?
Specifically: are you setting up your dev machine, or a test / production environment?
 
@Shog9 currently not in production. But i want to familiarize myself with it by fiddling arround with it using minikube so i can make an educated decision
I'm trying to install stable/sentry using helm but if i put the same values i provide using --set using a yaml file the hooks/jobs don't get deployed and don't run
and now i'm trying to figure out whether there's something to be aware of when loading values using -f flag or if this is some sort of a but in the chart.
 
probably more appropriate on Server Fault then, although you'd likely get away with asking on SO if you're very clear about what you're doing
 
so generally speaking it's okay to ask a question where the answer might end up being something along the lines of "it's a bug in version x.y"
 
sure
I mean... That's always possible
It's usually not very likely, but... one of the most popular questions on SO last week was something about apple breaking their provisioning system and locking everyone out
 
especially since spectre/meltdown i guess =D
alright thanks for the input, will head over to server fault then
 
10:34 PM
There's an old joke / truism about programming questions. Everyone thinks they've found a compiler bug sooner or later - some trivial bit of code just doesn't do what it should. And compilers are software, written by humans - surely they do have bugs!
But it's never a compiler bug.
 
depends on whether you'd define a human as a compiler from thought to source code or not i suppose
or spec to source code etc.
 
> Now, which seems more likely to you?

Weird, inexplicable compiler bug that nobody has ever seen before
or

Programmer fucked up
The thing is, there are compiler bugs, even compiler bugs that have been documented on Stack Overflow. And of course there are lots of library / tooling bugs asked about and documented on SO.
But... You should always ask your question with the implicit assumption that it's not a bug, because if you can't find the behavior documented anywhere and the software has more than a few dozen users... Chances are you're just using it wrong somehow, and as soon as you say "it must be a bug" someone's gonna come crawling out of the woodwork to set you straight on that. OTOH, if it actually is a bug... Well, now the next person to encounter it won't have their search come up empty.
 
It's a matter of psychology. Especially new programmers seem to have a hard time accepting that it's their fault if code is buggy and not the compiler / interpreter / runtime.
 
yep
 
it's the same thing as overcomplicating a bug hunt
and in the end you forgot a semicolon etc.
still happens to me from time to time
 
10:40 PM
ah, those days when you spend all afternoon hunting for a bug, and do indeed find several and fix them along the way but still have the erroneous behavior you started with... And it turns out you mistyped a name somewhere.
 
or you had variable shadowing, or where missing this keyword or you tried adding two numbers but it turned out the first one was a string in javascript... so many simple options to fail with :)
What is this happy hour about?
 
after a hard week of being sad, it's nice to take an hour and relax
...Then, back on your heads
 
it's midnight arround here ._.
 
10:57 PM
High time for a drink then!
 
:+1:
 
StackExchange content being licensed CC-BY-SA 3.0, and there being no officially recognized compatible licenses, that means that if I want to use code posted on SE in my project then my project must be licensed exactly CC-BY-SA 3.0?
 
How can a platform decide about the license of the content that I as a user post anyway? Asked myself that question a couple of times now. After all it's my own interlectual property
 
@Sparr Correct, if you're following the license strictly.
 
@Anticom you grant them license to redistribute under that license by posting. it's not only in the ToS, it's linked at the bottom of every page on the site
 
11:14 PM
@Sparr okay but let's say i posted a snipped from my own code that is licensed using another license that would only mean that others could use that snippet under CC-BY_SA 3.0 however that wouldn't affect my own code base would it?
btw still a big fan of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerware
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL is also a good one
 
@Anticom Correct. In that case, someone else could use the code you posted under either license - CC-BY-SA or the license you originally put on it.
 
okay get it
 
User content on SE is available at minimum under BY-SA - that doesn't preclude it from also being made available under other licenses. I license all the code I post here under MIT as well.
 
how do you indicate that?
 
Gotta run, later guys o/
 
11:29 PM
@Sparr It's in my profile. Easiest way to do it without having to add a note on every post I write
 
thanks for the insights. I'll probably reimplement what I need, rather than CC license my code
 
You can always use the answers you find as inspiration, rather than directly copying the code
 
or I can spend so long discussing it that I discover a solution in a library I'm already using :)
 
@Anticom Have you heard of the Unlicense by any chance?
 
I've used CC0 and Unlicense before. I think I'm gonna GPL something, to take a different approach
 
11:44 PM
Beware in general of funny/joke licenses like the WTFPL or any of these.
Usually, pick something from choosealicense.com
 
@Shog9 so... Last Tuesday?
 

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