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ArtOfCode

12:03 AM

also it's almost a decade old, pretty sure we don't actually need to keep it :)

Journeyman Geek

Yup

@HarryGindi there we are. Now we wait

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ArtOfCode

If you used to have Smokey privileges here but have lost them, ping me. I've just made some major changes to how they're handled, and some accounts may have got lost in the mayhem.

5

@journeyman mind pinning that for me?

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@ArtOfCode ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.

ArtOfCode

12:51 AM

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@ArtOfCode ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.

πάντα ῥεῖ

@ArtOfCode That's weird :-/

ArtOfCode

Bug, it's trying to use SE chat IDs in MSE chat

so whoever has 121520 on MSE is privileged, but I'm not

Catija

@ArtOfCode Related to Nick's Tweet?

Journeyman Geek

There we are

Catija

12:59 AM

Where?

Journeyman Geek

I mean I pinned it

Catija

I pinned it before you got here...

oh oops

Weird.

I didn't see it 0_0

1:00 AM

Mobile?

Journeyman Geek

nope

and I'm not on a terribad connection either. Quite the contrary

ArtOfCode

@Catija no, actually - that auth change was a two-line fix, so not quite mayhem

Change I'm making at the moment makes privilege lists use network IDs instead of chat server IDs so that we can be more chat-server-agnostic... 1000+ lines changed and counting

Catija

Wow. Nice.

Journeyman Geek

@ArtOfCode makes sense....

ArtOfCode

it hasn't caused enough problems yet, which makes me suspicious that it's going to dump all the problems on me when I think I've done it

Journeyman Geek

1:04 AM

._.

ArtOfCode

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@ArtOfCode ✓ You are a privileged user.

ArtOfCode

wunderbar

Catija

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@Catija ✓ You are a privileged user.

Fabby

1:27 AM

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@Fabby ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.

Fabby

Drat! ;-) I haven't read all of the manuals yet!

Good night all BTW...

Falling over head firsst on my keyboalkjhefmvlkkdnjv

Journeyman Geek

3:12 AM

Journeyman Geek

3:30 AM

I'm slightly confused over the not lift button being needed

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

4:24 AM

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog ✓ You are a privileged user.

forest

Any updates on whether or not IPS is going to stay out of HNQ for long?

Shree

!!/amiprivileged

SmokeDetector

@Shree ✓ You are a privileged user.

Journeyman Geek

@forest I think no change is planned in the short term.

forest

4:39 AM

Damn

I don't even like IPS, I just don't like seeing them treated second class.

Oh well.

Journeyman Geek

That's just how it is

and quite honestly - I don't think SO is ready for it yet ;)

forest

s/SO/Twitter/

Journeyman Geek

naw SO as in the company

forest

Ah

I thought the company was Stack Exchange Inc.

Journeyman Geek

Whether they're ready for twitter...

we will need to see next time there's drama.

@forest Stack Exchange Internet Services does business as Stack Overflow ;p

So If I'm in a good mood, I call em SE. If I'm not, I call em SO :p

forest

4:44 AM

heh

ArtOfCode

@JourneymanGeek Stack Overflow Internet Services -> Stack Exchange, Inc -> Stack Exchange, Inc DBA Stack Overflow. Simplified.

Journeyman Geek

@ArtOfCode and kinda one of the things that annoys me a little :p

ArtOfCode

I just call 'em SE, cuz that's easy to stick to

Journeyman Geek

5:01 AM

I mostly call them that.... Except if I think they messed up

forest

Which they most certainly did.

Journeyman Geek

(but then again I think the 'rename' is a bit emblematic of the broader issues they had)

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7:51 AM

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Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

8:02 AM

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/319240/…

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rene

8:29 AM

delv-pls 20K logstash meta.stackexchange.com/q/319236/158100 /cc @ShadowWizard @Bart @TravisJ @Glorfindel

delv-pls 20K raspberrypi meta.stackexchange.com/questions/319235/… /cc @ShadowWizard @Bart @TravisJ @Glorfindel

!!/amiprivileged

sd del

rene

9:42 AM

Does anyone here have an example of how to have feeds post tweets in a chatroom?

or maybe a room where they do this?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

10:18 AM

@rene What you need is an RSS feed of the tweets, then you can configure it by going to the room's info and clicking the "feeds" tab

rene

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog that is not something twitter themselves offer, right? I need a 3rd party service for that rss feed.

Journeyman Geek

10:41 AM

@rene nope

there's services that do that tho

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11:17 AM

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Journeyman Geek

11:40 AM

whoot

Managed to throw together an entry for the watch contest

Tinkeringbell

Okay. link? I don't feel like scrolling :P

Journeyman Geek

0

A: Time for some more swag!

I guess I was a little short of time. I was thinking what to do. It had to have a dog. It had to be about time. I was trying to build a doghouse time machine, but that's not what I ended up with I didn't really notice any physical lego entries despite all this time, and I thought back to my time...

Shadow Wizard

👍

Journeyman Geek

If anyone is curious about my old school clock tower...

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Journeyman Geek

11:51 AM

(well they upgraded it somewhat, and now they demolished it and replaced it with a similar, newer tower)

ACS likes its clocktowers ;p

Tinkeringbell

12:05 PM

There already was a lego entry (SO logo)

Other than that: Yay! Something handmade ;)

Journeyman Geek

I'm finding the answer spread on this interesting. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/319229/…

(also looks like most of the community thinks its a terrible idea so far - or at least most MSE users who answered)

forest

I think it's a good idea in theory. Likely to end up terrible.

If the company were honest and trustworthy, I'd say go ahead.

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John Dvorak

I'd trust SE with swag distribution. Less so when it comes to the company maintaining their PR.

Journeyman Geek

12:26 PM

well, they had a few partnerships in the past

Magisch

If that takes the form of "We appreciate your participation in {tag} and want to send you something for it" I think it might be fine

on a strictly opt in basis

Journeyman Geek

That seems fine to me, personally

but other than the source of the swag that's roughly how SE works

Magisch

hence strictly opt in

besides that I doubt anyone would wanna send me anything, I'd decline such an offer, but I wouldn't be opposed to being shown the offer

Journeyman Geek

Well,quite honestly - it depends on the thing

I'd never say no to swag

Magisch

eh

SE is the only company I'd honestly wear swag from

Journeyman Geek

12:34 PM

That's besides the point ;p

(and technically my AU and win 8 T shirts are only vaguely SE)

Shadow Wizard

12:45 PM

writing answer

Journeyman Geek

That's why I posted it here. Maybe ;)

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12:59 PM

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Bart

If you can no longer ask questions on a site (because of a ban) can you still ask questions on the site's meta (given that you have sufficient rep)?

Journeyman Geek

I think so

Bart

Myeah, I see the OP also asked on the Meta where they were banned, so that works.

But it was suggested he take his question to MSE

rene

1:18 PM

@Bart I wonder what their question looked like. It is no longer in SEDE so it must have been roomba'd before last week

Bart

Myeah, couldn't find it either. I have a hunch about the quality/nature, but well, that's for their Meta to figure out.

rene

that free speech rambling ...

Bart

Journeyman Geek

the funny thing there is...

OP knows he's wrong and how

just that it shouldn't apply to him

Magisch

"Logic is only for other people, I can do what I want"

rene

1:31 PM

I offered three links out of search results for "free speech"

Magisch

every time I hear someone lamenting free speech around these parts I can't help but think of this:

I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.

I mean yeah it's reductive and kind of caustic but also it fits

Bart

There are 2 online pet peeves I have. The "free speech" card, and the "no copyright intended" (sic) and "fair use" card.

And in other news, I've been trying to install Tensorflow for about 4 hours now, and it still won't work. ARGH!!!

Magisch

i wish there was a better and official way to do public domain

having to fiddle with licenses when I just want to say "do whatever, idc" is annoying

rene

@Bart it won't run Win XP ...

Bart

@rene if only that were the problem.

rene

1:38 PM

Ha

Journeyman Geek

@Bart funny that....

27

A: How is the policy of letting people edit another person's questions justified, under USA law?

This is a violation of the right of free speech in the USA. I believe you're talking about the first amendment, which only really applies to the government. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the fr...

Bart

Hahaha, "great minds" and all that

Journeyman Geek

I'm pretty sure OP knows exactly why he's in trouble

just dosen't think it should apply to him

Bart

Oh yeah, think so as well. I just couldn't resist answering

The whole "first amendment" thing reminds me of a US exchange student years ago here in Geneva. He was totally surprised that his constitution and the amendments were of no influence over here. "So you guys don't have free speech?" :D

rene

1:52 PM

I see @Bart got into the pannenkoek state of mind ...

Bart

That's my permanent state of mind

Although I'm still the old-fashioned pannekoek type.

Journeyman Geek

._.

Its like all y'all are talking another language ;)

rene

@Bart I checked here first: onzetaal.nl/taaladvies/pannekoek-pannenkoek ...

Yes, that is cheating ...

Bart

I don't know if there's still the "groot dictee" on television in NL, but I don't think I'd do well anymore.

Tinkeringbell

@Bart Nope, millenials killed that.

Bart

2:02 PM

Goshdarn avocado toast eating bastards

Journeyman Geek

2:20 PM

._.

@Tinkeringbell the millienials seem to kill more things than a colonial on safari ;)

Tinkeringbell

Hah. Good one ;)

Though I don't really kill things. I guess I make for a lousy millennial ;)

Journeyman Geek

I've never had avocado toast.

I'm rather fond of the classic cheese, or nuritional yeast + olive oil on toast.

Tinkeringbell

I don't think I ever ate an avocado.

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Its not half bad with a squeeze of lime and some coriander.

or with sugar ...

I mean

WHAT KIND OF MILLENIAL ARE YOU?

get on with the program of cultural mass murder and avocado toast eating...

Tinkeringbell

I'm apparently a really, really lazy millennial ;)

I am of the kind that can't find an apartment to buy, does that count?

Journeyman Geek

2:29 PM

@Tinkeringbell apparently we killed that too

by not being able to afford it

Tinkeringbell

I don't think we killed the housing market. Things are overheated over here ;)

Journeyman Geek

WE KILL EVERYTHING WE TOUCH!

Bart

In fact, as I recall, a lot of experienced physicists contributed a lot of their time - for free - to try and explain why your question didn't make sense. The discussion was marginally less productive than talking to a wall. — John Rennie 16 mins ago

Journeyman Geek

.... ow

\o/ Jmac!

wait, is it the same Jmac?

aww. No

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell I tried, didn't like. My wife loves to eat avocado though. ;)

Bart

2:38 PM

Avocado is awesome

Tinkeringbell

@Bart I thought Rennies were supposed to not give you acid reflux...

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell the name rings a bell...

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek where?

Bart

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard in post @Bart linked

but its not the ex-cm

Shadow Wizard

2:40 PM

Oh. Well he is MIA for long time...

Bart

... or is it

Journeyman Geek

@Bart unless he nuked his MSE account

and I'm under the impression he left on good terms.

Someone will probably correct me otherwise.

Shadow Wizard

Or not

Bart

Pfff, I give up on Tensorflow. I wasted far too much time on that today :( Time to shoot some people in the face (in Overwatch, don't worry)

Shadow Wizard

I doubt SE will disclose even in a hint such thing.

Journeyman Geek

2:43 PM

@ShadowWizard shhhh ;p

Magisch

"marginally less productive then talking to a wall"

polite society burn?

Journeyman Geek

quite honestly we didn't really hear much of any of them

@Magisch not entirely sure that's even polite

Magisch

idk

it sounds ... high brow?

Journeyman Geek

But someone's in need of some burnol

Magisch

meanwhile, the new asassins creed game lends itself to a ungodly incongruity of tone

Shadow Wizard

2:46 PM

@Magisch comment? Flag as unfriendly...

MEE

4:23 PM

Hi, I posted here a few days ago, that I would like to start a community project improving Area 51. I wanted to propose my idea on MSE soon and wondered whether you might help me to review my post and 1) to improve my ideas and 2) to correct spelling mistakes (I am not native English speaker).

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

4:59 PM

physics.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/10919/… then meta.stackexchange.com/questions/319251/… What a mess

I regret having spent the time for those two comments

@SmokeDetector K

!!/amiprivileged

I mean, of course I am

Thom Blair III

5:54 PM

Hi! I'm wondering if dnSpy can ever get ported to OSX. The dnspy devs say they're not going to do it, so I was wondering if any community or person might be interested in doing it. Anyone have any ideas about who might be interested?

If anyone has any ideas, please ping me

Thanks!

ArtOfCode

that's... not something you should be flagging, folks

Tinkeringbell

6:34 PM

@ArtOfCode Did I miss something?

ArtOfCode

@Tinkeringbell this got flagged

Magisch

o_O

Tinkeringbell

@ArtOfCode Ah okay :)

Bart

7:18 PM

@ArtOfCode And rightfully so. How dare anyone ask for our help. FOR SHAME!

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Hey, been a while since we had flags

Why are you so anti-climactic?

Bart

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Bart I wanna star it but you'd get spoiled

BBL dinner

Bart

It's the time of year to give your stars to those who need it most. I'm good.

Bart

7:45 PM

\o/ It only took me 8 hours of so, but I finally have Tensorflow up and running. Holy crap.

*or so

rene

Okay, what can it do? Make your heart rate go up?

Bart

It certainly achieved that. It made me swear as well. But it's supposed to help me with machine learning

rene

You'll now teach it swear words ...

Tinkeringbell

oh no... he's getting smarter.

Bart

Don't worry, there's no chance I'm getting smarter. That ship has sailed.

rene

7:56 PM

With this machine learning I have the impression we foremost learn a lot ...

Bart

It's impressive to see how much research in my domain now uses machine learning approaches.

rene

Isn't that because we are lazy and hope the machines take over?

Bart

Haha, perhaps. But it achieves spectacular results that I don't think we could have easily algorithmically solved.

Tinkeringbell

Like pausing Tetris because that's how you 'can play for as long as possible without losing'?

Bart

8:12 PM

Haha, that's your strategy?

Not sure that counts as "intelligent"

Tinkeringbell

8:41 PM

It's one of those things you don't need machine learning for ;)

MEE

@MEE Hi, I wanted to draw attention to my prior message. Is it ok to post a link to a Google Docs-document in this room and to ask about your opinion regarding to it before posting it on MSE/ask you to comment on it?

rene

8:54 PM

@MEE just post it on MSE. We'll redact there. I'm not a native speaker either so I'm useless ...

MEE

@rene ok

BTW do you think it would be ok to title it "Introducing Area52 - Help me to develop a better site staging zone" or does this sound too official?

rene

@MEE that sounds way too scary ....

MEE

ok, maybe "Let us (the community) build a new site staging zone for Stack Exchange" then?

rene

better I think.

MEE

Ok, posted it: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/319275/…

canon

9:19 PM

I'm testing a proof of concept for extracting the stack-snippets console from the demo frame. Right now it only does log(). If someone has a second, go here: snippetdemo-env.zssagtjfvz.us-east-2.elasticbeanstalk.com, mousewheel over the demo area, and click through the tree view on the console panel.

ArtOfCode

@canon works, but clicking on the arrow to expand the tree doesn't - it only expands if you click the text

canon

Should be all set.

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